@@nisu_unn Did you watch the stint? 35 seconds in 15 laps. Alonso was nowhere near the lapped car, who was none other than Jarno Trulli, a so-called master of Monaco
@Stealth Leopard nope. Kimi beat him in multiple occasions with shittier cars. Schumacher was a great driver and was at the right place at the right time. With Kimi he is a fantastic driver but was at the right place just wrong time.
@Stealth Leopard No. Alonso literally never beat MSC with a worse car. In 2004 Alonso won 0 races. The Renault was super fast at Hungary 2003 and Alonso got lucky Webber held up the field in that race.
@@apollon7341 2005 would have been his as well if it weren't for horrible reliability issues. Nurburgring was his own fault but he had 3 other races where he DNF'd from the lead due to hydraulic issues (if i recall correctly) that's 30 points lost, which was a lot back in those days.
@@lunasilvermoon2283 with the Nurburgring it wasn’t just Kimi, the team kept him out as well. Also the damage caused to the tyre wasn’t severe enough that the team wouldn’t be penalised for changing it (due to the no tyre change rule in 2005). After this GP the rules were changed to allow for such instances. But the early 200’s were a disaster for Mercedes, extremely powerful engines but they were made of glass
@@christiansimmons630 That no-tyre change rule was horrific. That was the start of the whole ''save/perserve tyres'' campaign that we're still seeing to this day.
@@lunasilvermoon2283 I mean, I sort of liked it, it was different but tbh it was done to severely peg back Ferrari as Bridgestone made tyres for them only (Jordan and Minardi didn’t have a say in development). Raikkonen put in tremendous laps with this rule, look at Spain, Monaco, Turkey, Japan, that McLaren was a beast with those tyres but yeah I’m not a fan of Pirelli now, prefer Michelin
seriously, what a grid this was in 2005...kimi, the michael, alonso, quick nick, montoya, trulli, fisi, ralf, webber, massa, rubinho, jacques, button, dc, taku...
@@James-gl5do stroll and latifi still decent, I mean stroll is the youngest podium taker and also took pole when it mattered ... And latifi recently has been good too ...like 12th in quali spa....
people used to say it was Kimis driving style that broke the cars... but they did give easy points away like when they stayed out on a dodgy tyre and it went bang
@@robmalkin6863 yeah heard this loads - in terms of raw speed, a lightning quick driver but he only knew how to drive one way. Flat out with no compromise. If we stripped back all the titles and purely judged drivers on ability in terms of overall "greatness", the reason a lot of people wouldn't put him right up at the top is due to his general car management being really poor. If you compared him to the likes of Alonso for example, they're like chalk and cheese when it comes to tyre / car management etc. The hilarious clip of Kimi not warming his tyres on the straight when at Ferrari pretty much sums him up as a driver 😂
Very talented driver. Shame to see him taken out of his prime early by poor cars and having teammates favored. If things went his way, he'd comfortably be a 4-time champion
I think people miss that, to me, it feels like Kimi wanted 1 (obv idk the guy so who knows). Once he got his 1 he REALLY didn't care anymore lmao, just wanted to have fun. So, I think the people who say "he would've won 4" could be right, as like '02, '03', and '05 the car was probably good enough but fate and reliability got in the way. But, I also think if he had won in '03 or '05 he would've then just been there to enjoy himself and maybe a 2nd chip or more wouldve been collateral lol. either way, dude is one of the fastest and purest drivers to ever race
@@Jorge.Painkiller not really. He could've been headed to a championship in 2008. Unfortunately at that time Santander wanted to sponsor Ferrari and pushed for Alonso to go there. That lead to a very dirty PR campaign that affected Kimi and prompted Massa up the ranks. Up to the 2008 spanish grand prix, Kimi had every ounce of passion still in him and he was leading the championship
Kimi's talent was so monumental that the instant he got a halfway working car, he won a title in 2007. Every other year McLaren could barely get him to the grid
@@MarcosM-fj6mn the pain of watching Kimi's McLaren struggles in the early 2000's made 2007 sweeter, especially with the competition that year. Nobody could say he didn't deserve it and I always got the impression he only ever cared enough for one WDC title, so I think it was a huge relief for him too - he pretty much just enjoyed himself in F1 after that.
@@MarcosM-fj6mn nope... Kimi was the only one among the three to have two reliability dnf's and no driver error dnf ...the other two had driver error dnf's. Without a reliability factor kimi would have wrapped up that year by China
@@amalkallarackal9293 The other one's didn't have that many reliability dnfs, but they did have a lot of reliability issues that costed that crucial positions (e.g. Turkey, Brazil for Hamilton). That being said I'm still happy Kimi won, he deserved at least one wdc, if not the four he should have gotten.
Yeah...also Kimi won 6 race in 2007 vs Alonso or/and Hamilton 4...It was not luck, it was his talent that bring that wdc 2007 to kimi. Anyone who is saying it was from good luck, or becauuse Ham and Alo fighting in McLaren and ruin it for them from inside, then I think we can say than more than 90% of all wdc's of f1 history was won by luck, and other reasons, like internal problems in opponent team...so, he deserve it more than anyone in the grid, taking.account last 5 years and that 2007 year only. End of the story
If anybody is wondering why Jenson Button is in the commentary box instead of racing. The FIA had banned BAR for two races for a rules violation, and it very nearly could have been a full-season ban. Because both Sato and Button had nothing to do, Button decided to join the ITV commentary box for the two races that his team couldn’t participate in.
He also woke up that morning, somewhere down the coast not in Monaco, having been blackout drunk the night before. Took a speedboat back and did the commentary with a hangover.
There's a back story to Kimi being this demonic in this stint. When the safety car came out on lap 25, a lot of the driver including the 2 Renaults came and pitted. Initially Mclaren is also going to do the same to Kimi but missed it. All seems lost but they trusted the word of a Mclaren boffin back at Woking who said Kimi could still win if they stuck to the original planned pitstop. After the safety car peeled off, Kimi immediately dropped the hammer and drive like the wind. And that's how he managed to built a sufficient gap to pit safely and rejoin in the lead.
Yeah as incredible as it may sound 35 seconds in 15 laps isn't that unbelievable. All the others had pitted and had a heavy car while he was able to just let it fly on an empty fuel tank. In today's F1 it's like he's on the soft tires while the others are on the hards. It's still incredible that he basically did 15 qualifying in a row without ending up in the wall though. That was a stint like prime Schumi would do.
Kimi deserved the 2005 WDC 110%. Drove like a demon that year. Michael deserved his 8th title in 2006. Too bad Ferrari let him down terribly that 1 time it shouldn't have.
Michael didin't deserve shit in 2006. Crashed himself in Australia/in Monaco got demoted to the back of the grid for dumb tactics .Alonso was better driver in 2006
Kimi was so good in the smaller/lighter V10/V8 cars anyone new or young to F1 needs to go back and watch him then and see just how good he was. He is just doing it for fun these days, back then he was going all out.
Kimi wasn't consistently pulling 4 second gap every race like Seb did in his prime but goddamn, over 5 seconds faster than the rest is unprecedented, especially in Monaco. That's probably equivalent to 7 or 8 second in a normal circuit. Mclaren truly wasted his full potential
Nothing is more enjoyable than a beautiful Renault R25 and a fast Mclaren MP4-20, sounding like real engines and driving fast under the sunlights in Monte Carlo
What is James Allen smoking ffs? Safety car did not help Kimi, in fact it made his race more complicated if anything, he was on for an easy win anyway before SC.
If they had the same cars now as they did then, Kmi would be the best and it's not even close.... Maybe Fernando would be a rival to him, but on outright speed, in these cars, Kimi was THE fastest driver, even faster than Michael Schumacher.
@@jeffreyvences5746 Because its irrelevant when people discuss the raw pace of drivers. Since you changed topic: Senna was not less dirty, but everybody ignores that cause he has the "tragedy bonus" somehow.
@@srivatsansenthilkumar9582 Incorrect. Kimi destroyed Michael in this race and backed off before his stop as he had more than enough margin. That's the only reason MSC set some comparable lap times. Schumacher was barely quicker than Rubens in this race.
@@stevenshakespear8855 mazepin is not a real driver. the only evidence we know is russel replacing hamilton without knowing the car and a wrong seat and he beat the fuck out of bottas and everyone else
Mad to think that in two alternative universes, by changing only the smallest number of things, we could have had a Kimi with 2 or 3 titles and another with no titles at all... Don't think you could say that about many drivers in F1 history.
In this race Kimi was on Fire , yeah back in time there are different loads but Kimi was in own league that day he recoverrd After a McLaren strategic error with fast laps
New age F1 fans will never understand why old heads put Kimi on the same level as Michael and Senna in terms of pace. When he had the fire in him, he was the best driver on the grid. Only reliability and bad luck fucked him over big times and nearly cost him the 2007 title aswell. 2007 should've been an easy cake walk. Also this race proves how we need refuelling back.
Kimi was fast, yeah. But you guys should not forget that those 5.6 seconds in one lap are not the same as 5.6 these days. These days every driver is on the same fuel load which makes a big difference to the times when each driver was on different strategy carrying more/less fuel in the beginning etc..
Don't destroy their buble.CiaronSmith is biggest clown in F1 yt comunity together with MR_T and FireBolt these people don't listen to logic or facts only thing they do is bend facts to fit their narative and arguments
There are a few things to be considered here. First, the Renault refuelled on lap 25 and topped up the tank to get to the end of the race. That's 53 laps of fuel. At the time, the fuel consumption was about 2 kg of petrol a lap, so roughly 106 kg. Raikkonen stopped on lap 42, so he was carrying 17 laps of fuel, 34 kg. An advantage of 72 kg. 10 kg of fuel costed around 2 tenths per lap back then in Monacc. So just the fuel itself gave Kimi 1"4 per lap of pace advantage. Not to mention the McLaren was 0"5 quicker than the Renault on the qualifying. So this adds up to 1"9 per lap. Last but not least, the Renault made a wrong compound choice, too soft, which dramatically worsened because of the huge amount of fuel the French car had (just see from this video how Fernando was struggling, and how much he struggled the whole race, being overtaken by the Williams and being caught at the end of the race by Montoya, the Schumacher brothers and Barrichello that were almost a lap down). Long story short, it was a great drive by Kimi, but he had a way better car (his fastest lap was 0"7 better than the Renault), way less weight and better tyres.
Ok let's consider Alonso being passed by 2 Williams cars, burning his rear tyres up, and getting outqualified in the low fuel quali session by half a second and losing to Jarno Trulli the year before as well. Kimi was just stronger.
@@ciaronsmith4995 considering you bring up alonso “losing” to trulli that one time in 2003, we should bring up more instances of kimi being absolutely destroyed by his teammates such as massa , alonso , vettel , giovinazzi
The good old days of Mclaren ran by Ron Dennis, Newey designing the car, illmor berylium engines... No wonder the Mclaren was said by Brundle to be 'beautful, and subtle'.
Kimi on 03 and 05 was the fastest driver probably ever amazing pace both on quali and race its so sad McLaren couldnt build a car that could finish a race, but Kimi wanted to win wdc and he did after that he treated F1 like a hobby thats why he was significantly slower in 08
partly it was due to Kimi‘s speed. but partly also due to the tyres dying on the Renault cars. You can see the tail lights on the Renault cars blinking. Both drivers had to switch their traction control to the „rain“ setting in order not to crash out.
this reminded me of the jacked doge and puny doge meme. to think that after 38 laps tyres are still healthy despite racking up fastest laps on fastest laps.....definitely can't happen now a days
Kimi was good, and he didn't even really care. Imagine how good he would have been had he spent more time in the simulator and less time partying. He could have been a multi-world champion.
He partied a bit too much, but that's not what cost him more titles in my view. Kimi was let down by the car in 2003 and 2005. He drove the wheels off it and was generally let down by mechanical unreliability. He could have been in the garage 24/7, it wouldn't have prevented suspension/engine/driveshaft failures and 10-place grid penalty drops.
Raikkonen deserved 2005, 2008, 2003, and maybe 2006. He got screwed over. He was so much better if a driver than Alonso, Schumacher, Hamilton. Literally anyone contesting him. He was so much better.
Ferrari signed him as the "number two back-up". The 2014 car was totally developed after Alonso's driving style in 2013. Worth mentioning is that while the 2014 Ferrari never won or started on pole, it was indeed Kimi who scored a fastest lap with it in Monaco. As for 2015-2018. Ferrari built their team around Vettel hoping he'd be "another Schumacher". Kimi didn't like it but he (silently) accepted it. What Ferrari did was telling Kimi to "hold back and take one for the team". Obviously he couldn't perform optimally while being wing-clipped. Also. Kimi is a flat-out kind of driver. The old rules of having one engine for every race and a free choice of tires suited him. The new rules rewards more "strategic" driving. And Kimi doesn't like holding back his own raw speed.
5.6 seconds in ONE LAP!
The fastest driver since Senna.
7:06 sums it up. Jenson Button even admits Kimi is on another level.
like no car advantage accounts for THAT much speed. Just Kimi in his prime.
2.8 at the start of the lap, 5.6 at the end on a car that had a lapped car ahead, WOW! i mean i love kimi too but cmon
@@nisu_unn Did you watch the stint? 35 seconds in 15 laps. Alonso was nowhere near the lapped car, who was none other than Jarno Trulli, a so-called master of Monaco
Someone at mclaren once said in terms of natural raw pace he is quicker than Lewis and senna
Such a shame he didn’t win more world championships. I’m sure he’s ok with his one, but I feel for him.
So many people don’t know the true Kimi. They all know him for his radios but he is the fastest driver of the 2000’s.
True
@Stealth Leopard nope. Kimi beat him in multiple occasions with shittier cars. Schumacher was a great driver and was at the right place at the right time. With Kimi he is a fantastic driver but was at the right place just wrong time.
@Stealth Leopard No. Alonso literally never beat MSC with a worse car. In 2004 Alonso won 0 races. The Renault was super fast at Hungary 2003 and Alonso got lucky Webber held up the field in that race.
Thats a lie
@@liamquigley891 No.
It's still frustrating he didn't win a championship in this era. He should have.
2003 at least
@@apollon7341 2005 would have been his as well if it weren't for horrible reliability issues. Nurburgring was his own fault but he had 3 other races where he DNF'd from the lead due to hydraulic issues (if i recall correctly) that's 30 points lost, which was a lot back in those days.
@@lunasilvermoon2283 with the Nurburgring it wasn’t just Kimi, the team kept him out as well. Also the damage caused to the tyre wasn’t severe enough that the team wouldn’t be penalised for changing it (due to the no tyre change rule in 2005). After this GP the rules were changed to allow for such instances. But the early 200’s were a disaster for Mercedes, extremely powerful engines but they were made of glass
@@christiansimmons630 That no-tyre change rule was horrific. That was the start of the whole ''save/perserve tyres'' campaign that we're still seeing to this day.
@@lunasilvermoon2283 I mean, I sort of liked it, it was different but tbh it was done to severely peg back Ferrari as Bridgestone made tyres for them only (Jordan and Minardi didn’t have a say in development). Raikkonen put in tremendous laps with this rule, look at Spain, Monaco, Turkey, Japan, that McLaren was a beast with those tyres but yeah I’m not a fan of Pirelli now, prefer Michelin
seriously, what a grid this was in 2005...kimi, the michael, alonso, quick nick, montoya, trulli, fisi, ralf, webber, massa, rubinho, jacques, button, dc, taku...
What a grid!
And today we have Latifi, Tsunoda, Stroll and Mazepin😂😂
@@James-gl5do and also vettel, Hamilton, max, russell, Norris, leclerc, sainz, gasly, Schumacher Part 2, we have a lot of good drivers
@@James-gl5do And during 2005 we had Pizzonia, Zonta, Monteiro, Karthakeiyan, Freisacher and others...
@@James-gl5do stroll and latifi still decent, I mean stroll is the youngest podium taker and also took pole when it mattered ... And latifi recently has been good too ...like 12th in quali spa....
If only McLaren was reliable in 2000's, he would've won 2 or 3 championships
people used to say it was Kimis driving style that broke the cars... but they did give easy points away like when they stayed out on a dodgy tyre and it went bang
@@robmalkin6863 Maybe it's because of his short shifts that broke the car.
@@ChiVera_ he short shifted alot now becuase his car sucks LOL
*If only he had been in a Ferrari, they were just too good. He would only have won in 2005.
@@robmalkin6863 yeah heard this loads - in terms of raw speed, a lightning quick driver but he only knew how to drive one way. Flat out with no compromise.
If we stripped back all the titles and purely judged drivers on ability in terms of overall "greatness", the reason a lot of people wouldn't put him right up at the top is due to his general car management being really poor.
If you compared him to the likes of Alonso for example, they're like chalk and cheese when it comes to tyre / car management etc. The hilarious clip of Kimi not warming his tyres on the straight when at Ferrari pretty much sums him up as a driver 😂
Kimi Raikkonen in his prime was the sort of driver that could do 78 Monaco qualifying laps without question. Just astonishing.
Very talented driver. Shame to see him taken out of his prime early by poor cars and having teammates favored. If things went his way, he'd comfortably be a 4-time champion
Maybe 2 because I don’t think he cared enough, even in his prime
Disagree, Michelin leaving was the beginning of the end for Kimi. He won in 2007, but after 07 he never had such a stellar Season, maybe 2012-13
I think people miss that, to me, it feels like Kimi wanted 1 (obv idk the guy so who knows). Once he got his 1 he REALLY didn't care anymore lmao, just wanted to have fun. So, I think the people who say "he would've won 4" could be right, as like '02, '03', and '05 the car was probably good enough but fate and reliability got in the way. But, I also think if he had won in '03 or '05 he would've then just been there to enjoy himself and maybe a 2nd chip or more wouldve been collateral lol. either way, dude is one of the fastest and purest drivers to ever race
I would say 3 times, cause he nearly won in 2003 and lost the championship by 2 points and he dominated 2005 and he already won 2007
@@Jorge.Painkiller not really. He could've been headed to a championship in 2008. Unfortunately at that time Santander wanted to sponsor Ferrari and pushed for Alonso to go there. That lead to a very dirty PR campaign that affected Kimi and prompted Massa up the ranks. Up to the 2008 spanish grand prix, Kimi had every ounce of passion still in him and he was leading the championship
Prime Kimi was the best, 2012 and 13 we saw some flashes of that same Kimi.
he was just toying around after he left mclaren and managed to pick up a championship on the side
And 2018
Ferrari chose the wrong driver to prioritize in 2018.
@@danieljimenez1989 The chose wrong in 2008
@@theSafetyCar yes, that's for sure.
Kimi's talent was so monumental that the instant he got a halfway working car, he won a title in 2007. Every other year McLaren could barely get him to the grid
2007 title should have been won easily by Alonso or Ham, but they had an awful internal battle in McLaren who ruined it all.
@@MarcosM-fj6mn the pain of watching Kimi's McLaren struggles in the early 2000's made 2007 sweeter, especially with the competition that year.
Nobody could say he didn't deserve it and I always got the impression he only ever cared enough for one WDC title, so I think it was a huge relief for him too - he pretty much just enjoyed himself in F1 after that.
@@MarcosM-fj6mn nope... Kimi was the only one among the three to have two reliability dnf's and no driver error dnf ...the other two had driver error dnf's.
Without a reliability factor kimi would have wrapped up that year by China
@@amalkallarackal9293 The other one's didn't have that many reliability dnfs, but they did have a lot of reliability issues that costed that crucial positions (e.g. Turkey, Brazil for Hamilton). That being said I'm still happy Kimi won, he deserved at least one wdc, if not the four he should have gotten.
Yeah...also Kimi won 6 race in 2007 vs Alonso or/and Hamilton 4...It was not luck, it was his talent that bring that wdc 2007 to kimi.
Anyone who is saying it was from good luck, or becauuse Ham and Alo fighting in McLaren and ruin it for them from inside, then I think we can say than more than 90% of all wdc's of f1 history was won by luck, and other reasons, like internal problems in opponent team...so, he deserve it more than anyone in the grid, taking.account last 5 years and that 2007 year only. End of the story
If anybody is wondering why Jenson Button is in the commentary box instead of racing.
The FIA had banned BAR for two races for a rules violation, and it very nearly could have been a full-season ban. Because both Sato and Button had nothing to do, Button decided to join the ITV commentary box for the two races that his team couldn’t participate in.
Was good training for his eventual future endeavors at Sky F1 haha
He also woke up that morning, somewhere down the coast not in Monaco, having been blackout drunk the night before. Took a speedboat back and did the commentary with a hangover.
@@sIightIyboredwhat a legend
There's a back story to Kimi being this demonic in this stint. When the safety car came out on lap 25, a lot of the driver including the 2 Renaults came and pitted. Initially Mclaren is also going to do the same to Kimi but missed it. All seems lost but they trusted the word of a Mclaren boffin back at Woking who said Kimi could still win if they stuck to the original planned pitstop. After the safety car peeled off, Kimi immediately dropped the hammer and drive like the wind. And that's how he managed to built a sufficient gap to pit safely and rejoin in the lead.
Yeah you are right. Credit to Neil Martin (strategist) who made that call!
Yeah as incredible as it may sound 35 seconds in 15 laps isn't that unbelievable. All the others had pitted and had a heavy car while he was able to just let it fly on an empty fuel tank. In today's F1 it's like he's on the soft tires while the others are on the hards. It's still incredible that he basically did 15 qualifying in a row without ending up in the wall though. That was a stint like prime Schumi would do.
@@murphymoerf kimi literally did this for breakfast in 2002-2008..his race pace had always been cut above the rest.
@@minus21334 I'm so glad people remember them days, ii wish I could go bsck
@@murphymoerf Raikkonen is Ayrton Senna 3.0
Kimi is for me the true champion for 2005.
And 2003
Kimi deserved the 2005 WDC 110%. Drove like a demon that year.
Michael deserved his 8th title in 2006. Too bad Ferrari let him down terribly that 1 time it shouldn't have.
2003 is pretty close too
Michael didin't deserve shit in 2006. Crashed himself in Australia/in Monaco got demoted to the back of the grid for dumb tactics .Alonso was better driver in 2006
Agree on 2005, but Alonso deserved 2006. That was clearly his best year alongside 2012
what about renault letting alonso down with a loose wheelnut in one of the best races of his career? hungary 2006
Kimi in a McLaren is what made me fall in love with F1
So true it was Kimi who made me fall in love with F1 i used to have so many wallpapers of Kimi. Man deserved more than 1 title for sure.
@@hussainraza4537 the Kimi / David Coulthard era and then Montoya
Kimi was so good in the smaller/lighter V10/V8 cars anyone new or young to F1 needs to go back and watch him then and see just how good he was. He is just doing it for fun these days, back then he was going all out.
Well said mate. I feel like new fans should go back to experience this whole era. What an era it was and what a driver Kimi was.
the stint of gods. i'm glad i witnessed this live as a kid.
Kimi wasn't consistently pulling 4 second gap every race like Seb did in his prime but goddamn, over 5 seconds faster than the rest is unprecedented, especially in Monaco. That's probably equivalent to 7 or 8 second in a normal circuit. Mclaren truly wasted his full potential
Prime kimi in red bull then ggs for everyone.
Raikkonen's raw speed is scary
He was just ridiculously quick.
Kimi was a beast in that car, it’s such a shame the car wasn’t reliable
Nothing is more enjoyable than a beautiful Renault R25 and a fast Mclaren MP4-20, sounding like real engines and driving fast under the sunlights in Monte Carlo
Give Kimi a Red Bull or Merc and watch him roll back the years 😲
How he didn't win the championship is one of life's great mysteries.
He won 2007 with Ferrari
McLaren's reliability lol
car broke down
Not really a mystery, the 2005 McLaren was flaky af
It's no mystery that his car is shitty.
I remember watching random sports on tv and F1 would pop up here and there. Raikkonen was the name that always stood out.
What is James Allen smoking ffs? Safety car did not help Kimi, in fact it made his race more complicated if anything, he was on for an easy win anyway before SC.
Yeah agreed!
But he win anyway because he's the king
dont agree. the gamble Alo and those behind took helped kimi in the end. alo couldnt even finish his race properly with that tire degregation
If there was a series with equal cars...Kimi wins every race!
Not if they understeered lmao
Alonso wins easily
It makes me mad when people just meme on Kimi all the time.
He was easily the fastest man about on his day!
The only one who could barely follow him was Michael but he was a lap down after the incident with Coulthard and Albers, still finished in the points
This is God level driving right there...
I’ve watched the first 5 seconds over and over because Kimi is already going so much faster than everyone else 😂
Tbf isn't he leading a restart? So yeah..
Kimi during his McLaren days was an absolute beast.
Remember watching the live timing for this one, he was half a second faster in Saturday qualify and took lots more fuel in Sunday qualif
If that McLaren had been more reliable, he would've been Alonso's nightmare. He was scary fast!
Well he already was 😂
With what happened in Maclaren in 2007 I think that the universe deprived us of several years of Alonso v Raikkonen epic rivalry
If they had the same cars now as they did then, Kmi would be the best and it's not even close.... Maybe Fernando would be a rival to him, but on outright speed, in these cars, Kimi was THE fastest driver, even faster than Michael Schumacher.
@Stealth Leopard Also the dirtiest. Why did you forget to add that?
Fernando and Michael were so much better than Kimi but ok, only 1 championship by 1 point and he's the goat? Come on man
@@MrGameplayshow I meant the fastest on pace over one lap.
@@MrGameplayshow these idiots, he could’ve easily had atleast 2 more if that mclaren was reliable.
@@jeffreyvences5746 Because its irrelevant when people discuss the raw pace of drivers.
Since you changed topic: Senna was not less dirty, but everybody ignores that cause he has the "tragedy bonus" somehow.
Raikkonen in a McLaren was why I fell in love with F1
he was a beast back in time
I love hearing Brundle and Button commentating as it's like right now where they're still commentating on modern F1.
Why wasn't Button driving?
@@gummygnom BAR was banned and didn't race for a few races so Button joined the commentary box to keep himself busy I guess
Kimi during his prime is really fast, never doubt the iceman
Kimi McLaren era= glass Cannon F1
Kimi definitely deserved 1 championship with McLaren.
natural raw pace, Kimi faster tan everybody else even Schu and Senna and Ham and Ver
Even in this clip Schumi was more or less matching him in a slower ferrari
@@srivatsansenthilkumar9582 Incorrect. Kimi destroyed Michael in this race and backed off before his stop as he had more than enough margin. That's the only reason MSC set some comparable lap times. Schumacher was barely quicker than Rubens in this race.
Kimi in this car is the reason I got into F1
If he was in Mercedes in 2014 and beyond, he would've won so many championships
not really a great comment because anybody could have won if they had a car that dominant
He would've won more than anyone else since he is Kimi Räikkonen and Kimi is Kimi so.
@@ey7290 Bottas?
@@ey7290 I am not that sure that if you put Mazepin in that same Mercedes he would win.
@@stevenshakespear8855 mazepin is not a real driver. the only evidence we know is russel replacing hamilton without knowing the car and a wrong seat and he beat the fuck out of bottas and everyone else
Kimi what a legend, just a great guy and one hell of a driver. Especially racing in this fantastic era and what a year 2005 was ☺️
Strange to hear Button commentating in 2005. I had to google what was going on for him at the time - his team was disqualified from racing.
Yeah, second fuel tank was found at the San Marino GP, I think?
Kimi is such an underrated driver... If his McLaren was more reliable than it wasn't at that time, he could have at least 2 WDC more
Mad to think that in two alternative universes, by changing only the smallest number of things, we could have had a Kimi with 2 or 3 titles and another with no titles at all...
Don't think you could say that about many drivers in F1 history.
Alonso wins 3 more wc in different conditions😢
In this race Kimi was on Fire , yeah back in time there are different loads but Kimi was in own league that day he recoverrd After a McLaren strategic error with fast laps
I was a huge fan of Räikkönen in 2005, races like Monaco and Hungary were so satisfying to watch!
this is the greatest race for me as a finn and as a Kimi fanatic. been watching every race from 2005 and i think this is it
thank you
New age F1 fans will never understand why old heads put Kimi on the same level as Michael and Senna in terms of pace. When he had the fire in him, he was the best driver on the grid. Only reliability and bad luck fucked him over big times and nearly cost him the 2007 title aswell. 2007 should've been an easy cake walk.
Also this race proves how we need refuelling back.
This is Kimi when you give him the drink.
Young kimi was something else🔥
he was the best
i love this sound
Wow. One of the most beautiful cars in F1. Mp4/20
BWOAH, that's what happens when you are in front of all those slow cars...
No. This never happens. Trulli was nowhere near MSC.
5 sec gap in one lap alonso
Brilliant 👍👍
what a god
Damn this brings back memories
To je najboljši video doslej
8:20 is the sound of heaven.
This is how f1 cars should sound
Kimi was fast, yeah. But you guys should not forget that those 5.6 seconds in one lap are not the same as 5.6 these days.
These days every driver is on the same fuel load which makes a big difference to the times when each driver was on different strategy carrying more/less fuel in the beginning etc..
Don't destroy their buble.CiaronSmith is biggest clown in F1 yt comunity together with MR_T and FireBolt these people don't listen to logic or facts only thing they do is bend facts to fit their narative and arguments
Let's not forget the fact that there was a Minardi in the way to begin with.
I wish we could get racing half as good as this now...
There are a few things to be considered here. First, the Renault refuelled on lap 25 and topped up the tank to get to the end of the race. That's 53 laps of fuel. At the time, the fuel consumption was about 2 kg of petrol a lap, so roughly 106 kg. Raikkonen stopped on lap 42, so he was carrying 17 laps of fuel, 34 kg. An advantage of 72 kg. 10 kg of fuel costed around 2 tenths per lap back then in Monacc. So just the fuel itself gave Kimi 1"4 per lap of pace advantage. Not to mention the McLaren was 0"5 quicker than the Renault on the qualifying. So this adds up to 1"9 per lap. Last but not least, the Renault made a wrong compound choice, too soft, which dramatically worsened because of the huge amount of fuel the French car had (just see from this video how Fernando was struggling, and how much he struggled the whole race, being overtaken by the Williams and being caught at the end of the race by Montoya, the Schumacher brothers and Barrichello that were almost a lap down).
Long story short, it was a great drive by Kimi, but he had a way better car (his fastest lap was 0"7 better than the Renault), way less weight and better tyres.
Ok let's consider Alonso being passed by 2 Williams cars, burning his rear tyres up, and getting outqualified in the low fuel quali session by half a second and losing to Jarno Trulli the year before as well. Kimi was just stronger.
@@ciaronsmith4995 considering you bring up alonso “losing” to trulli that one time in 2003, we should bring up more instances of kimi being absolutely destroyed by his teammates such as massa , alonso , vettel , giovinazzi
@@ciaronsmith4995also how good was heidfeld then considering he owned kimi in his debut season ..wow!!
It was Heidfeld's second season actually. Not his debut. And Nick lost to Montoya in F3000.@@sunritroykarmakar4406
The best there is the best there was the best there ever will be! Hands down!
Man the track looks so much bigger with these small cars
Good on Martin Brundle to step in and say “it’s not all fuel”. He knew Kimi was screaming fast
That was Jenson Button saying that I believe.
Trulli amazing sound that! Absolutely Raiokkonen'd it ;)
Das waren gute Zeiten. Damals habe ich mir im Gegensatz zu heute, viele Rennen angeschaut. 🙂❤️ 😔
Found it a bit funny how Jenson was commentating this race because he and his team were still serving their 2 race ban
I thought this said "Raikkonen creates a 35 second gap in 15 seconds" and I was like HOLD UP
The good old days of Mclaren ran by Ron Dennis, Newey designing the car, illmor berylium engines...
No wonder the Mclaren was said by Brundle to be 'beautful, and subtle'.
mazepin creates that gap in half the laps
'Get to the yacht' Kimi. Legend.
Jenson Button, Martin bundle and David croft with Ted in the pit lane with Antony in the sky pad is the dream team
KİMİ TÜM ZAMANLARIN EN İYİ F1 PLOTU KİMİ RAİKKONEN DİR....
God these cars sounded good.
Kimi on 03 and 05 was the fastest driver probably ever amazing pace both on quali and race its so sad McLaren couldnt build a car that could finish a race, but Kimi wanted to win wdc and he did after that he treated F1 like a hobby thats why he was significantly slower in 08
03,05 were mine but mclaren never can win
watching this after the 2024 monaoc grand prix......
you'd almost forget that mclarens were good at any point after hakkinen Era
partly it was due to Kimi‘s speed. but partly also due to the tyres dying on the Renault cars. You can see the tail lights on the Renault cars blinking. Both drivers had to switch their traction control to the „rain“ setting in order not to crash out.
Kimi is simply badass fast .. no other way to say it 🤷🤷🤷
this reminded me of the jacked doge and puny doge meme. to think that after 38 laps tyres are still healthy despite racking up fastest laps on fastest laps.....definitely can't happen now a days
Te BEST!
Do hoy speak spanish?
Kimi was good, and he didn't even really care. Imagine how good he would have been had he spent more time in the simulator and less time partying. He could have been a multi-world champion.
He partied a bit too much, but that's not what cost him more titles in my view. Kimi was let down by the car in 2003 and 2005. He drove the wheels off it and was generally let down by mechanical unreliability. He could have been in the garage 24/7, it wouldn't have prevented suspension/engine/driveshaft failures and 10-place grid penalty drops.
Raikkonen deserved 2005, 2008, 2003, and maybe 2006. He got screwed over. He was so much better if a driver than Alonso, Schumacher, Hamilton. Literally anyone contesting him. He was so much better.
*2000s formula one by far the best decade when come to livery and car design its a shame F1 car is big like Limousin*
McLaren in Kimi era - fast but unreliable
McLaren just 1 year after Kimi left - fastest car with no mechanical dnf's
v10.. bring it back ❤ it.. 💪💪💪
We got lewis vs vettel where we should have had alonso vs kimi. Two generational talents
Iceman doing icecold things :)
Classic Kimi
He made the gap bc he got his drink
Kimi should have been a real rival to Schumi aside from Montoya and Alonso. Max respect
He was....he nearly won the title in 2003....
Finally I made it
People forgot just how good this Kimi was, It's a shame what happened in 2014 and after
Ferrari signed him as the "number two back-up". The 2014 car was totally developed after Alonso's driving style in 2013. Worth mentioning is that while the 2014 Ferrari never won or started on pole, it was indeed Kimi who scored a fastest lap with it in Monaco.
As for 2015-2018. Ferrari built their team around Vettel hoping he'd be "another Schumacher". Kimi didn't like it but he (silently) accepted it. What Ferrari did was telling Kimi to "hold back and take one for the team". Obviously he couldn't perform optimally while being wing-clipped.
Also. Kimi is a flat-out kind of driver. The old rules of having one engine for every race and a free choice of tires suited him. The new rules rewards more "strategic" driving. And Kimi doesn't like holding back his own raw speed.