Wire it up and fire it up, starting the 1968 Firebird engine for the first time

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 24. 11. 2022
  • Test running the engine on the shop floor for a 1968 Firebird. How to wire up engine that is not in the car to get it to run and check for issues prior to final installation.
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  • @theoldwesttraveler
    @theoldwesttraveler Pƙed rokem +5

    She is alive!!!!!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thanks mr old west traveler, bet it’s warmer in Arizona then here

  • @rohrt1
    @rohrt1 Pƙed rokem +1

    Save your rear end gear lube bottles with the small funnel ends and use them to fill the carb from the vent with Gas. No need to endlessly crank it.

  • @billiebrew2185
    @billiebrew2185 Pƙed rokem +3

    VVG video two fore on Black Friday, big win for me. It’s great to a community of people sharing unneeded parts to make a awesome bird. Thanks for sharing your videos and time Jon , I always learn something new.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +3

      lol best day ever!! I enjoy saving these car and recruiting as many people as possible to help.

  • @ronaldthompson9309
    @ronaldthompson9309 Pƙed rokem +1

    Hello Jon
    Enjoy your videos you are very knowledgeable. I was a heavey truck mechanic for 37 years I'm now 70 years old. I've owned Pontiac's every since I was 16. My first was a 69 Firebird 4 speed. Got married and car had to go. Later in life I bought a 68 Firebird. And also a 69 GTO. Had to sale both to pay for my son. Later on I bought a 67 GTO from my brother in law been in the family since 1972. Still have it. My son bought a 67 Firebird that was race ready. Still have it. Don't race it much because the cost of fuel. After I retired I told my wife I would like to buy another 69 Firebird. I found one and purchased it. The out side was finished. It needed floor pans and carpet. So that's been my project since I retired. Putting on new chrome and dressing it up just a bit. I was watching this video and engine looks and sounds great. You my already know this but I'm going to give some old school and old man tips. First I took a old distubator and ground the gear off of it and use it with a drill I never liked cranking a engine over with out priming the engine first.
    The other tip is get a cleaned out gear oil bottle fill it about a half way up of the vent tube in front of the carburetor gose straight into the float bowl. I fill the float bowl with fuel. It saves the starter from over heating and saves the battery.
    Keep up the great work 👍
    Ron from a little Town in Virginia

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem

      Nice collection. I have also sold my
      TransAm For the kiddos. Thanks for the tips too. That is the point share the knowledge and years of experience because once it’s gone it’s gone

  • @twobeards6714
    @twobeards6714 Pƙed rokem +1

    Morning Jon,
    Belated Happy Thanksgiving to you, the family and all of your followers.

  • @leegreen2163
    @leegreen2163 Pƙed rokem +2

    Sounds GREAT!

  • @firstgenerationgarage2803
    @firstgenerationgarage2803 Pƙed rokem +2

    Hello buddy what a great feeling to hear that pontiac motor alive sounds good you really have everything looking clean I like the idea 💡 of using the subframe as a engine test sand I just might buy a extra one to do the same I will be sending you the parts soon you are the man I love the way everything is going great job 👍

  • @Adam-ik9mi
    @Adam-ik9mi Pƙed rokem +1

    Heck yea, buddy!!! Looks awesome! Gad to see some extra parts cleaned up and working for you!! "We all can work... But together we win!!"

  • @elf3095
    @elf3095 Pƙed rokem +3

    It lives, engine sounds good, wonder how good that carb is long term?

  • @handydand
    @handydand Pƙed rokem +1

    That 350 is purring! Good work!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      Not bad for just dropping in the distributor and bumping the stater with a little gas. Need to set the timing and check the carb too but wow that one fired up quick

  • @wmorri003
    @wmorri003 Pƙed rokem +2

    That engine sounds really good and you haven't even done any tuning on it yet!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      Nope haven’t even set the timing yet, i think this will be a great engine for this build.

  • @justindennis1186
    @justindennis1186 Pƙed rokem +3

    Sounds great! Love the content. Getting ready to start working on my 68 firebird so I’m really glad I found your channel. So much great info! Thanks.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      Awesomeness! This car was a running and driving car when i started but needed a lot of love. Keep it fun and Good luck on your build.

  • @anthonysantiago1999
    @anthonysantiago1999 Pƙed rokem +1

    I havent heard myP350 run since 1992.. Cant wait

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      That’s a looooooong time. I am sure it will fire up and live again

  • @jimsteig9653
    @jimsteig9653 Pƙed rokem +1

    Wow, that’s an awesome video. We are definitely going to follow your lead before installing the subframe.👍

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      I just like the idea of test running it to verify it ls all good. Plus it’s really easy to attach it back to the body too. The only negative I have experienced is keeping it clean during the body work stage.

  • @ElrodsGarage
    @ElrodsGarage Pƙed rokem +1

    That's awesome! You make it look too easy!

  • @burntclutches
    @burntclutches Pƙed rokem +2

    Always satisfying when it runs! What is that white stuff outside lol?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      Heck yeah this one fired right up can’t complain! The white stuff is the end of fun and like a cuss word in my world. That means no more classic car driving until all the spring showers wash all the salt away. 🙁

  • @shaggyscarshop
    @shaggyscarshop Pƙed rokem +2

    Great work. That engine sound really smooth. You are really getting through your project and thats a great idea to run them on the subframe before toy install it into the car. Keep up the good work.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      Had a leak at the transmission dipstick tube super easy fix right now. Totally worth the effort to fire it up. Thanks for watching buddy. Hope to see your bird all shiny soon.

    • @shaggyscarshop
      @shaggyscarshop Pƙed rokem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage Me too. No word on it yet.

  • @charlieseidelmann6702
    @charlieseidelmann6702 Pƙed rokem +1

    Great work,Jon.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      Thanks, hopefully have the car back on four wheels by the end of this month

  • @autos66
    @autos66 Pƙed rokem +1

    Excellent tutorials thank you!

  • @kbsingleton
    @kbsingleton Pƙed rokem +2

    Who the heck rebuilds a Pontiac Sunbird? Oh...wait....me. LOL Thanks for the the VVG Certification, Jon!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      We do it for the love of the cars!! Now, you have to get back to it!

    • @billiebrew2185
      @billiebrew2185 Pƙed rokem +2

      Oh Monza platform. I Didn’t know Pontiac made them. Will it be V8 powered?

    • @kbsingleton
      @kbsingleton Pƙed rokem +1

      @@billiebrew2185 yes. Still debating SBC or LS.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      
Pontiac 455 😁

    • @kbsingleton
      @kbsingleton Pƙed rokem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage I have a buddy with a Sunbird drag car with a 455. It fits amazingly well.

  • @stephenflowers8516
    @stephenflowers8516 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    Don't you want as little as possible cranking when firing up a freshly rebuilt motor?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

      Cranking not concerned with if it was primed, now extended idle with a non-roller cam would be an issue for sure.

  • @phoenixblack1220
    @phoenixblack1220 Pƙed rokem +1

    Good work, John! Also, sound advice on pre-running the engine prior to buttoning it up in the body.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      Thanks, I have done my last three builds this way. Last thing I want to deal with is a oil pan or oil leaks that require taking the engine back out. After the car is all assembled. I don’t like scratching the paint!

  • @stevenpringle7813
    @stevenpringle7813 Pƙed rokem +2

    Why is the car going to Florida? Nice video again. Great information

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +3

      Good question! because that is it’s home when done. wish this was my car but it’s not. i don’t normally do restoration projects for other people but he asked at the right time and place. I wanted to do a car from beginning to end on the channel and both of my birds didn’t meet that. so what better way to do that then someone else’s car? plus I won’t go broke doing another one at my expense. 😁 love these old birds but they aren’t cheap to build or is it cheep đŸ˜‰đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïžđŸ€Ł

    • @stevenpringle7813
      @stevenpringle7813 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage That's a perfect situation. I was just curious. Very punny by the way.

  • @perrywe1
    @perrywe1 Pƙed rokem +1

    Wow! sounds awesome. Glad the distributor worked. Is that the stock coil and wiring harness? That may be the solution to my HEI problem on my Camaro.....

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      Yes, 1968 factory harness. The only wire omitted was the white one from the stater solenoid to the coil. That wire is only necessary for a pointed ignition.
      What kind of issue are you having with the HEI?

  • @michaeldavis3430
    @michaeldavis3430 Pƙed rokem +1

    Nice build! It's looking great!
    Where did you find that quadrajet? Would you mind posting a link?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      It’s an eBay special, the price looks like it went up $30 since I bought mine.
      This is the eBay link
      www.ebay.com/itm/313651602212?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=y4er6n6ar-m&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=BN_aheTVQma&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

    • @michaeldavis3430
      @michaeldavis3430 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage Thanks for the link! I'm really enjoying the videos. They're definitely lighting a fire under my backside to get back to work on my Pontiac! 😁👍

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      That’s great! To many projects get back burnered and forgotten about, it would be awesome to get it going again.

  • @ezakoske
    @ezakoske Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    @VinylVillageGarage - any tips on carb tuning? My '68 Bird starts up with a really high idle, and I typically have to hit the accelerator pedal a bunch of times to get it to kick down to normal idle.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +2

      I can do up something on a quadrajet carb. Sound like you choke is opening to slow which will effect fast idle cam operation. What carburetor are you using and what type of choke? Electric or heat activated?

    • @ezakoske
      @ezakoske Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage It's a Quad, and looks like it's heat activated. Thanks for the reply! Love watchinig your restorations!!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

      @ezakoske right on! Thanks for watching

  • @michaelerickson1518
    @michaelerickson1518 Pƙed rokem +1

    Grade 8 carburetor bolts

  • @nick9399
    @nick9399 Pƙed rokem +1

    I just pulled my ‘73 formula into the garage after not seeing it for 13 years. Hooked up some jumper cables and got nada. I’m so bummed.

  • @Joe7166
    @Joe7166 Pƙed rokem +1

    The fan location looks too far back...Is that clutch correct?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      Not to say it’s right but my GTO Which is all original clutch fan it sites when sighted straight on about 1/2 the fan blade width os also exposed just like the bird.

  • @leegreen2163
    @leegreen2163 Pƙed rokem +1

    I saw that carburetor on ebay, great price.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +2

      Great price just hope it’s good. I will give feedback once I start driving it.

    • @leegreen2163
      @leegreen2163 Pƙed rokem +1

      I replaced the bi-metal choke piece a few years ago, made a HUGE difference in how my car runs when it is first started.

  • @KennyJoe01
    @KennyJoe01 Pƙed rokem +1

    Hi Jon, do you think it would be possible to find a 1967 Pontiac 400 YT engine nowadays or is that something I better forget about?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      They are out there but getting slim pickings for sure. I believe my friend Brian just found one in Arizona. I know it’s a 67 400 and thought it was a YT

    • @KennyJoe01
      @KennyJoe01 Pƙed rokem +1

      Ok thanks. I’ll keep looking.

  • @user-ee9sq4jd4m
    @user-ee9sq4jd4m Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

    Where did you show how you installed the coil springs?

  • @andrer3854
    @andrer3854 Pƙed rokem +1

    For 1970 pontiac 400 with quadrajet, how turns of the air/mixture screws all the in to out would you recommend as a good start. I hope I am saying this right.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem

      Idle mixture screws initial settings 2.5-3 turns out is a great place to start then place a vacuum gauge on a manifold vacuum port with engine at operating temp and at idle and then adjust the screws in or out to obtain the highest vacuum reading possible.

    • @andrer3854
      @andrer3854 Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank You Much!

  • @briannietsch1859
    @briannietsch1859 Pƙed rokem +1

    Looking for help with a convertible top pump

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Pƙed rokem +1

      What kind of problems are you having. I did a video on cleaning one up and repairing stuck check balls.
      Here is a link if interested E26 convertible top pump / motor repair 1968 Pontiac Firebird LeBronze
      czcams.com/video/RbUlmpC9m1s/video.html