Picking the Right Affordable Guitar! - Orangewood OLIVER vs OLIVER JR!
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Acoustic vs Acoustic! Today I am comparing two popular choices for an affordable guitar - The full sized Oliver and the smaller Oliver JR
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Which guitar did you guys like the best?
Do you favour the portability of a smaller size guitar or do you prefer a full size?
Full size no doubt
Like the smaller one for deeper tones.
I think I would get the jr for traveling
I have the Oliver already. Now I want the Jr. too.. I like parlor guitars. They tend to be a bit brighter, boxy, or have a tin like sound that goes good with a blues or blue grass. Also, they feel more akin to an electric. Which I find is more comfortable to play. That being said I really like the Oliver too.
I prefer the ones played by you because you make them sound better than mine
Dude, you should seriously consider cutting an acoustic instrumental album. Such unique and chill sounds. I'd buy/download it
I wish that orangewood would've been around when i started playing. They seem to make very high quality guitars for the price.
Agreed! I learned on some seriously sketchy instruments lol
absolute junk. Any chinese epiphone is better
@@DarrellBraunGuitar But learning on shetchy instruments builds character. At least that's what I was told. lol
@@hughjantic-pantz3996 I've played dozens of Chinese epiphones at the same price range as the Orangewoods, and the epiphones don't even come close.
@@hughjantic-pantz3996 is it a chinese product?..... i thought its american guitar
Orangewood guitars have definitely taken to my liking because of the potential I have seen and heard of them! But alas both sounded incredible! Thank you for the showcase and doing justice to these guitars as always
Own an Oliver Jr Mahogany. Love it! Play it almost as much as my Taylor GS mini.
Brian Odell what are your pros and cons comparing the two? Currently in the market for a travel guitar :)
Faith Reyna The Orangewood is easier to play. The Taylor sounds fuller / louder (when playing with a pick.) The Oliver Jr is definitely worth the money. I absolutely love mine. If they drop a new wood style, I would probably purchase a 2nd Oliver Jr.
How long have you had your Jr? I want the Taylor I just worry about the durability of smaller guitars and it’s twice as much as this guitar but everyone has told me to go with the Taylor but I worry about price and longevity.
Faith Reyna I got my Oliver Jr the end of Nov. 2019. So, 3 full months with it. Never had it in the case. Hangs on my wall with all my other instruments. Play it everyday. I’m not rough on my guitars. And at less than half the price of the Taylor, it’s worth it. Both my GS mini and Oliver Jr are without a pick-up. If I had to choose one, I don’t think I could. I love them both. I also own a Martin D jr that’s awesome as well. But they are all different.
Faith Reyna Also, the Taylor is, well... a Taylor. You can tell there is a quality difference between the two guitars. The Taylor is worth the money, hands down. The quality matches the price. But the only thing “cheap” about the Orangewood is the price. Is the quality the same as the GS mini? No. Did I worry that the Oliver Jr was going to feel and sound cheap? Yes. But it’s not. It’s a $200 guitar that plays, looks, feels, and sounds like it’s worth more than $200. I have no regrets. Like I said, I’ll buy a 2nd Oliver Jr if they drop a new wood scheme option. Maybe a koa?
I definitely like the tone on the full size much better.
$200 is a low end guitar? In my third world country that counts as high end 😂
so do shoes
They are different and the JR. is more precise and 'immediate' ... the regular Oliver has a longer sustain and deeper bass. For cheap... get the one you'll play more and forget the other one.
I have a Cort guitar that cost $90. It is the guitar that i bring with me all the time because it is my cheapest guitar. When people ask me how much it cost, they often say it is expensive. Most people don't realise that most guitars are way more expensive.
One thing for sure, nobody has ever said my guitar sounded cheap.
You would be surprised walking into a guitar shop here in the states with rooms full of guitars priced anywhere between $1,000 to about $10,000
Intermediate guitar i asked chat gpt. It showed me some 100k INR guitars 😢
Just got my Orangewood Oliver. Sounds great and I'm loving it so far. Also, came with a kit bag, electronic tuner, chord chart, strap and set of picks.
Well, Santa left me an Oliver under the tree. My wife tells me Santa was able to take advantage of the Black Friday sale, when the guitar was $152! The only instruments in my collection I've paid less than that for are ukuleles.
I owned a Taylor 12-fret 522 (grand concert) which I sold because the odd placement of the neck hurt my wrist. It was solid mahogany top, ovangol back and sides. Those sell for $2800 new. I won't say the $199 Oliver sounds just as good as that guitar did. I will say that I am just as pleased with the sound, looks, playability, fit, and finish of the Oliver as I was with the Taylor 522. And it comes with a gig bag that I imagine my local music stores would sell for $80 or more.
The Oliver plays great. The neck is very comfortable and the actuon is nice and low. And, as an extra bonus, it sounds great with D'Addario strings. No need to shell out for Elixirs to get the right sound.
Of course, when I record and play out, I will still use my 2003 Taylor 314ce. It's still a superior playing and sounding guitar. But for just kicking around, jamming, composing, etc., the Oliver is great. And I don't have to feel nervous letting someone else play it.
Only slight imperfection: the nut had to be lubricated. Otherwise, the setup was perfect, even after being shipped across the US. This guitar is really well reviewed on CZcams. I can now personally see why.
Thanks, Darrell, for another great video.
I have the Jr., and my dad has the full size. Love both. Great instruments.
Your playing was soooo goooood!!! I’ve been thinking to retire my acoustic and get another one. Imma keep those in radar.
That’s a good marketing strategy , they name a guitar a name so all the Oliver who plays guitar are gonna be naturally curious about this model .
I chose the junior to start with. Eventually when I buy a full size I’d rather pay in the 5-600 range, then I’d have my jr. as a travel companion
Nice demo, Darrell. Frankly, size and weight are always an issue with me, and in both acoustic and electric instruments, I'll take the smaller one almost every time. I agree that the full-sized Oliver has deeper, richer tone, but the Jr. sounds good, too, and I'd choose that one because it's less bulky to hold and play. Certainly easier to deal with than my Ovations.
Got my fingers crossed for an Orangewood this Christmas!!
I've double checked it with 🎅. He says you were naughty this year. Sorry, bud.
My goodness, those are some pretty guitars. The Jr sounds pretty good for a small guitar but, like all small guitars, it sounds boxy and... well... small. The full-size Oliver sounds quite good and I'd like to hear the difference between it and the dreadnought version, if it exists. I must say... if all their guitars sound as good and play as well as the ones you've received, they are an amazing deal.
Really loved that intro song👌🏻
Thanks Darrell. You always do such helpful comparisons ~ apples to apples (e.g., playing the same ting on both guitars). Really helps me make good decisions.
I bought a orange wood. And it is a perfect guitar. You will get your moneys worth and more!!
Thanks for the very thorough review! I ordered my full size Oliver Mahogany today!
Great demo Darrell, lovely playing once again, these are so underrated guitars they give the big boys a run for their money.
i bought mine for the $195, and just arrived 3 days ago. i saved their website to keep looking and the Oliver M is now $225. it is still a good deal to start a trust relationship with Orangewood guitars
Thank you Darrell for your insightful and beautiful demo of the Oliver Jr. I am 70 years old and have been looking for the right acoustic guitar for a beginner with small hands like me. Bought the Oliver Jr. based on your review and so far I say you are right on for someone starting out learning guitar. I have looked at a lot of guitars in this price range and found Orangewood does give great quality for the bucks. Thanks again.
The orangewood oliver is a great value for your dollar. The one I have has very well defined wood grain all over the guitar.
I wish Orangewood sold their guitars in India, Quality acoustic guitars!
Buy a Cort. I'm Canadian and I'd buy a Cort over an orangewood, in fact I already own 3.
@@forfrigsakes3330 yea im planning on buying a cort as they're easily available and are good quality acoustics, but idk man after watching these videos of Orangewood guitars I'm tempted to buy one.
@@yeahhyouvish I have a 1970's Cortez guitar that was Cort before it was rebranded as Cort, and I loved the thing for forever, then a while ago the bridge came off and I replaced the bridge but it doesn't sound or feel the same anymore so I decided to retire it and I bought a Cort AD810 Open pore finish, and I love it, so I bought my son a AF510-OP, and then I was jealous of his so I bought myself an AF510M with a mahogany top. They are all amazing guitars and came with great setups especially or my son who is a beginner, I raised the action on mine because I play pretty aggressive and I tend to get some buzzing because of it.
But thwey are all great guitars and Cort actually makes guitars for Ibanez, schecter, they make some fender acoustics and many other brands so they know what they are doing, I wouldn't even be surprised at all if they were the ones who manufactured orangewood guitars too.
Orangewood has blown me away for how much guitar you get for so little money. I'm on a parlor guitar kick and I also really like the Taylor GS Mini, so my vote is for the Jr. Merry Christmas 🎄🎸😎
Look at the ow florence. It's in tight contention with my Oliver cedar for my favorite.
Glad I discovered your channel. I prefer the small one btw. Merry Christmas.
Darrell i suscribed a few weeks ago and i like so much your videos. Congratulations man you are so great!!! Best regards from Buenos Aires - Argentina!
I wish the Oliver Jr. was available in a lefty. I am very petite and find a full size acoustic is uncomfortable to play (and looks ridiculously huge on me). Also, I would like to see their "Jr." guitar compared with their "mini" guitar.
did not expect that PF riff at 4:45
Sounds like great sustain. Almost sounds like Elixir strings, very bright. It's hard to find a guitar that is dark and deep instead of bright and tinty.
wow! sound awesome ! I am thinking about grabbin a Morgan version ..hope they sound this goof ! subbed as well to the channel !
Hi darrel. Great video as always. I was thinking is you could do a comparison between the SG and the Tele Deluxe. Both have a great playability, contours and etc, same controls and brighter pickups, so it would be interesting to hear them back to back.
thank you. Keep it up.
Which one would you suggest for a beginning senior female with small hands???? Would either be easier to learn and play??? Thanks for your input.
Hey darrel i love all of your videos. Keep up the good work dude. I would love to see you trying a kahler bridge.they are excellent tremolo bridge. They are far more better than any of the floyd rose in my opinion. A tip : use a string called ghs boomers
Thank you for the review. I currently have a Yamaha F335 which is too bright for me. The tone is driving me crazy. If this full size Oliver considered warm tones?
Just ordered an Oliver!
Received it this weekend. I could not find a flaw on the guitar. Beautiful and sounds great.
I just ordered the oliver Jr live.. im stoked
Update: I did have some fret buzz issues after the guitar climatized. Could not resolve so Orange replaced the guitar. Excellent customer service.
@@matthewhegge1738 Was the new guitar better?
@@Jdb63 Yes, much better.
Nice video I like the Orangewood because the tone is really nice. If you get a chance take a look at the Wolf Guitar lineup. You can get them at All in One Guitars. They come set up with a hardshell case. Price $499. Great guitars at a great price.
Dollars to donuts, players will choose the full-size guitar for tonal quality. I played a Grand Aud. for years and then hurt my wrist and shoulder and now have to turn to a smaller guitar. I also have smaller hands so the Oliver Jr. would be ideal for me. Maybe this is only a fair question if you consider the criteria for wanting to own either of them? I PREFER the tonal quality of a full-size, but my limitations are guiding me toward the smaller guitar. Thanks for the presentation, by the way.
I have the Oliver M and I love it. Sounds great. Plays great.
Would you say the Taylor GS mini is for children? I think you're selling the Oliver Jr short. The shorter scale translates into easier stretches. The full-sized' Oliver has the long scale of a Fender electric.
Dang - no contest for me the - the full size tone is so much better and the price is just crazy for what looks like a quality instrument. My only complaint is that the price is so low it really pushes me away from attempting to build my own since I don't think I could even get the parts for less than 200.... lol
i wish i had that guitar when i got mine when i was 10 it was huge, it still is
I love both, sounds awesome!
Happy holidays everyone!!!
Even if you don't particularly need these sub $200 orangewood guitars, just try it it's not gonna heart. And in my opinion I'd buy these guitars as a workhorse, when I dont wanna bring my more expensive guitars around. Oliver Jr for me.
Well done and thanks for sharing brother! Very helpful to many!
Be Well D! I like them both!
Holding Tune ... Hmmm ... Bought an Orangewood Dana Mahogany about a year ago (for a travel guitar) and that's the one thing it cannot do with the stock tuning machines. It looks great. It's loud and sounds wonderful. It plays great. It doesn't hold tune. The tuning machine posts are looser than the red light district. Been looking for a decent set of tuners for what is really a very nice guitar. For those of you who may own an Orangewood - what's your experience with the stability of the tuning machines?
I'd be hard-pressed to choose between 'em, but I lean towards the larger guitar as well
I liked the full size Oliver much better.
One question, unless I missed it:
What are the scale lengths?
I’m fairly sure that the scale lengths are listed on the Orangewood website :)
I would like to watch a review of the Yamaha Storia II (Or III) with sound samples of good quality plugged in and unplugged !! :-)
Both guitars are great, but I prefer the lower tones of the full body guitar
Orangewood guitars look great... would love to buy one. I have heard of a lot of complaints about quality issues wich turns ma away
it's hard to tell with the mic so close. I love the look and feel of Mahogany but it generally doesn't project as well a solid spruce top.. If you're interested in playing bluegrass, I'd go with a different tonewood.
Hi Darrell: I’m from Malaysia. Is there an authorized dealer in Malaysia selling Orangewood guitar? Tq
Just bought the Oliver cedar.
Excellent demo Darrell! Your video's have cost me so much money. 😉
I bought an orangewood morgan i returned a martin solid wood 000cjr after i a and b ed them. They are that good. 🎸😎
Darrell is this available to ship to Canada; none of their other solid wood guitars are. The only explanation they give me is the cost of shipping and that's a bogus argument...
Hi Darrell.. thanks for the comparison. I considered the Oliver and Oliver Jr., but ended up ordering the Orangewood Brooklyn for my daughter for Christmas. Got a coupon code for 10% off + free accessory kit and 1 month of lessons for a total of $285 including tax and free shipping, so only about $70 +/- more than the Oliver that had no discount code, and excluding the freebies. Seems like an incredible deal and I assume the Brooklyn is a bit higher quality than the Oliver and so maybe somewhat better tone and or playability. Can't wait to unbox it and see her smile. Your various reviews turned me on to Orangewood.. so.. thanks for making me aware of the company. Would love to see you do some comparisons of other models vs. equivalent Taylors. I like the idea of supporting a forward thinking company and also getting good value and a reasonable balance of features. I'm just an amateur hack and so it seems self indulgent to pay in the multi thousands for a Taylor when options like Orangewood exist. Thanks again for spreading the word. Love your reviews and resources.. always entertaining and informative. Looking forward to what you have planned for 2020. Happy Holidays and Thumbs up!!
I have a 0015-M, I think I will be sticking with it :) Good video though and thanks for sharing.
You mentioned that the Jr. you would recommend for a child. I am 24 and want to learn to play guitar but I have rather small hands and find it difficult to get my fingers to stretch on my old guitar. Would you recommend the smaller guitar for someone with small hands or just go with a full size?
The jr is easier to play finger strength wise since the scale length is shorter so less tension on strings, Although the regular Oliver is comfortable to hold but the biggest I’d like to go since I like playing in bed watching tv and I’m 5’11 tall if that helps. I’d go with jr just because it even easier to hold and play
are there any other small brands similar to this that we should check out?
I bought the Oliver some time ago. Came time to change strings. I like the strings that came on it so I researched to get the same ones. After installing the new strings I noticed the intonation was off on the A string. Honestly I don’t know if it was off before changing strings. I have been playing guitars for nearly 60 years and got so could setup and repair my guitars myself better than any music store professionals in my area. However, I have done everything I know to do and cannot get the A string intonation set. Can you give me some ideas? Thanks! I love your channel! Bob
Nice video! I liked the Orangewood OLIVER. I was wondering if have ever tried the Ilicht BPNCS. The BPNCS is a low impedance air coil built in a replacement backplate. It removes the hum while preserving the true single coil pickup tone.
I acually like the sound of the jr. Does that come with electrics and a cut out? the jr I mean. Good review.
if you can find a decent sigma 000m-15 the one with grover tuners its amazing. I dont even want to get a better acoustic I'm perfectly happy with it.
I purchased an Echo last year based on your review, and have really enjoyed it. As you say, they stay in tune really well, play and sound great. I live in a dry climate and feared that the low humidity winter weather would be problematic, but so far, only one minor neck adjustment. Thanks for your reviews and recommendations.
When will they start to sell them in Canada?
I have a Yamaha SLG-200S and I love it, it was my first 'acoustic' and I'll keep it forever, but I want one that I don't need to plug in.
Thanks for the review! I lean toward that brand late, even more, when I see this kind of reviews, but I wonder, what is your opinion when comparing the tone in this kind of product, mahogany wood guitar vs silka or sepele woods?
Wow they both sounded so nice I’d probably want the bigger one a little nicer voice
It's a shame I can't get one in the UK.... I'd be all over Orangewood.... Great video as always.
Check out amazon!
@@TW-rn1vn That's the first place I looked bud. Nothing in the UK sadly....Unless you have a link?
@@richardsandson not as many options, but us guitarist need to help each other out! 😉
I think the Ava Mahogany sounds very nice.
I have an Ibanez that feels like the strings are 6 inches off the bridge.
Been collecting dust for years.
Thank you for this video, just purchased one. Need a hobby to keep my sanity with all the stuff that's going on.
you should check out bacchus guitar. its japan made, they make guitar from affordable range to expensive one. i own one of the affordable strat line and its awesome.
Is the Little Martin like the Oliver Jr.? Like Ed Sheeran?
Hi Darrell, thanks a lot for your wonderful videos. Could you please tell me what's the lower bout width (in inches) of the Oliver Jr.? And how is the pickup? What battery they use for it? Thank you so much in advance.
I hear u say these two guitar action is very good and very easy playability. The question I have for u is “ which guitar u think has the best action and easiest playability? Thank u !!!
Man I want an OrangeWood so bad but they don't ship outside of the US....
Would love the tab to the opening...
You should do a video on the Esteban guitar and how to make it better!
So what's the deal with Orangewood. The junior live by the time it gets to my door is 540 bucks canadian. I know this video is few years old but have they gone up that much? Also last few comments suggest they are not that great. And one comments said they received a sub par guitar and Orangewood said it is normal. Should I be looking elsewhere for a travel size affordable guitar?
I think it’s because of you being in Canada maybe? I would use that $500 budget at a local store and see if you find something you like, it’s always nice to actually feel, see, and hear a guitar before buying too
Do you know if they have any plans to make a classical or a nylon string guitar? Just looked their website. Looks like I'm adding another guitar or two to my wishlist. If you ever review any classical guitars you may want to look at Kremona Valley.
How do these two guitars differ from the Orangewood Dana mini? Better quality, easier to play, better tone???? I am a beginner looking to buy a new guitar and though I love the Taylor GS Mini, I just cannot afford to spend that kind of money right now. All suggestions/advice are appreciated.
Would you check out an Aria fet-f1? It's a flat-top acoustic with double f-holes. Thought it might be something you'd be interested in taking a look at
Have you gotten to try the Ava at all? Been interested in hearing more about that model.
I got a Martin Backpacker a couple years ago and I regret it deeply. You can't even play it without a strap, not that you'd be comfortable with one on.
yes it is an horrible guitar, and sounds horrible.
Which one would you say sounds better, I currently have a dreadnought and it doesn't sound as I would like it to for finger style
I know this is an older video, and you probably won't reply, but could you or someone else teach me how to play the finger picking song you played? I got the picking pattern down but I cant see what you are fretting
In the old days one was told that mahogany isnt the wood for the top of an instrument only spruce is.
Its funny how many of the old "facts" are disproven nowadays.
Come to think there is still no mahogany violin as far as I know. ?:-)
Full size guitar for me any day
What's the main difference between the Oliver Jr. and the Dana except the fancy inlay on the Oliver Jr. 12th fret?
Darrell, is anybody going to let the rest of us know who won that guitar? I think we would appreciate it so we could congratulate them
Sorry to say mine sounds like a Ukulele when strummed and has a dead sound on the second string when picked.
super beautiful...great sound. where i get to buy bro ?
Our website!
Little bit cold there Darrel? I believe that's a bunnyhug. . .?
How would you compare the the Oliver Jr compared to the Harley Benton gs travel as camp fire guitar ?
Are all those guitars on your background for sale?.... or just your personal guitars?
Does anyone know the fretboard radius on orangewood guitars. It looks nearly flat or has a large radius . Cheers
nice ones but you should check QQX guitars ive got one for me tho hard to find em these days since theya re not gettin exported out of china and a real quality instrument cheers nice vids