Long Live the KING! Life & death of Central Valley SALMON
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- NCGASA's second film on the state of our SALMON FISHERIES & MANAGEMENT in the Central Valley. Click on our 1st film UNSPAWNED: • UNSPAWNED: Managing Sa... | This 2nd film sheds light on the statewide closure of the Chinook Salmon fishery and the disastrous economic effects on small and family-owned businesses that rely on Salmon fishing in California. Our nonprofit organization will continue to lead the fight for Salmon by advocating for proper hatchery management, water policy and regulatory policies that help to recover salmon runs. We will advocate to RAISE MORE FISH. Visit our website to help us fight for SALMON and to save our fisheries. ncgasa.org | Become a member for as little as $20.
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Raising more fish if the temperature of the water is too hot is a weird solution. Surely it would be better to increase the flows to make the water cooler.
This was encouraging. The hard work and dedication of this organization and its many members focusing on addressing water issues specifically, hatchery issues, and developing working partnerships instead of playing the blame game as many others do is creating successes and hopefully turns the tide on our salmon fisheries. I have fished the Sac since 1981 and even then it was not unusual to see salmon in every month of the year. I used to hook a few salmon incidentally every year shad fishing. What a rush on six pound spinning gear .
Thank you for what you are doing to save the California King salmon. We sportsmen are the crucial supporters to save our native coolwater species.
You guys nailed it. Thank you all for what you’ve done and continue to do.
Great film! Thank you for spreading the awareness! This issue has been going on for way too long, it’s sad to see a fish so resilient constantly getting hammered on and beat down.
Amazing video, no BS description of what our fisheries are going through. Thanks for putting the time into this.
I’ve been fishing the Trinity river since I was about 14 years old. I’m 30 now. In front of my own eyes I’ve seen the runs of the salmon just getting smaller and smaller every single year that passes. I specifically remembering the first time my dad took me, we stopped at a certain deep hole above some rapids to just watch the hundreds and hundreds of salmon just resting in the hole after making a big run up a pretty rough stretch of rapids. 2-3 times a year every year since, there’s less, and less, and less. In the last 5-10 years we’re lucky to see more than 10 there when we stop at that area. The tribes that depend on these fish, the guides, everybody who has been fishing all these rivers for YEARS have made this known and heard but backs have been constantly being turned on them. The water management in California & agriculture has been a disaster for 30 years and the these salmon & steelhead always get put on the back burner. These fish need water, and need cold water. For juveniles to also survive for future runs as well. It’s been the most heartbreaking thing to see over the years. Amazing documentary!
It’s because charter boats are destroying the salmon populations out in the ocean before any of them can make their runs up stream but people fail to realize that it all starts somewhere yeah we’ve had poor management over the fish lately but where do the fish live primarily that’s the ocean and out of the bay where all these charters are pulling up all these salmon reducing the numbers before they even his the river ways to go spawn
But yes numbers have gone down tremendously in the past 30 years it’s sad what once was a staple of fishman now a scarcity and almost a rarity to catch a quality salmon
Chinese fishing trawlers just a few miles off of our coasts is a HUGE problem
I don't live far from the Trinity. The river has a free run to the ocean via the Klamath.
With all the great spawning habitat and small streams that enter the river, there's something definitely going wrong in the River why salmon are not prolific and abundant.
How many fish are the Hoopa pulling out of the river ?
Is the tribe raising any fish ?
I know Indians. They fish at night, sneak around, use small mesh in the nets, some are real renegades.
Personally , I don't see how one fish gets through that Indian reservation.
@@Frankov81I've commercially fished outside. I saw more Russian hake rust buckets of a boat fishing than Chinese.
Hake and salmon often swim and feed together.
I know, I've caught them both.
Failure……FAAAAAIIIIILLLLLUUUURRRRWEEE! It’s absolutely ridiculous this is allowed. I appreciate what you guys do and the information you give us that would other wise be hidden.
Great film!!!!
Salmon success starts and end with favorable water conditions. Unfortunately the Sacramento River and its main tribs are all over allocated. Considering that we have already been seeing the impacts of climate change in the form of more droughts, generally less snow, and more climactic extremes (longer hot periods followed by colder periods) have already made a huge impact as well. Restoring habitat where possible and reducing the amount of water that is being taken from the river will do wonders for the future of the salmon.
From my own experience it seems that federal and state agencies are slowing coming around to realizing this and making more of a concerted effort to protect this incredible species.
The Edinboro hotel Bar shown at the 9:12 mark is in Edinboro Pennsylvania. My hometown. You can imagine I was surprised to see it in a video about northern California salmon fishing 😂.
Lake Erie stock photo - good catch. We were going for a Marysville downtown vibe.
Last year that had closed salmon fishing season, the hatchery had reported over 80,000 salmon had moved up the river in my area
Read this article: www.recordnet.com/story/sports/outdoors/fishing/2024/01/11/steelhead-numbers-soar-at-mokelumne-river-fish-hatchery/72177945007/?fbclid=IwAR3M08ScrIid8wSkU8A4fQVvybua1SlHt0W6k1-HGn0SBfoac_jLX9YSIbk
I fished all summer and fall last year for trout on a NorCal river.
I caught more jack salmon than any other years of fishing and I was targeting trout not salmon.
Also, one of the tributaries of this river, I saw more fall king salmon spawning than ever in the past.
According to an article by Dan Bacher / Stockton Record: "Fishery advocates estimate the number of adult fall-run Chinook salmon returning to the Sacramento Valley will likely not be enough to allow a salmon fishing season in 2024. The Mokelumne River salmon are not included in the Sacramento River Index that is used by the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC) in its March and April meetings to develop the ocean abundance estimates for ocean recreational and commercial seasons." Visit our website NEWS / BLOG to stay up to date on the PFMC meetings and issues concerning SALMON. ncgasa.org/
Okay guys look at this South America have salmon there they are thriving because they outlawed commercial salmon fishing and charters if we follow them and take the hatchery’s jobs ourselves and help
Manage the populations as a community like they do in South America we wouldn’t have this issue
If I'm a logger I cut down trees, I should replant. If I commercial fish or charter, I should be responsible some way to replant fish.
In Grays Harbor Washington, they have net pens in the harbor where they raise salmon in the salt water.
And let them go as a juvenile.
It adds to the population of fish when they return with the Chehalis river fish.
I think there’s a difference between hatchery salmon and farm raised.
Not just the price.
All the seafood I see in my store is farm raised.
I don’t trust the farmers aren’t giving the fish drugs and engineered food.
It’s definitely the water diversion
One of my thoughts is the DFG is cutting costs on these programs to fund their Pensions, since license sales have dropped significantly over the past 30+ years.
Could be a possibility. It's just another job.
The only way the salmon steelhead runs are going to come back as if they stop commercial fishing off the coast I remember hearing that 70% of the Kings get picked off before they even hit the river mouth and I remember seeing as many as 90% of the Queens River fish in Washington State get harvested by commercial fishing pressure
This video and the previous "Unspawned" video overemphasize the importance of the number of fish spawning in the rivers. The barrier to recovery of salmon populations from CA to AK is to improve juvenile habitat and survival through flow management and restoration. Improving juvenile survival by a few percent could potentially increase the ocean populations by millions of fish resulting in more harvestable fish. Allowing more fish to spawn in the rivers doesn't do any good if you do not have the juvenile habitat to support them. All that does is increase density-dependent competition and decrease survival. Having floodplains wet at the right time and duration will do far more to improving salmon populations then allowing a few extra fish to spawn in rivers.
I have been fishing the California delta for years the salmon was always thick in the river until about 2017 in general when all the sea lions came up river all the fishing changed we used to catch 10-20 pound strippers almost everday until about 4 years ago nowadays 25 inches is a monster channel catfish used to be the easiest fish to catch now there rarely seen in the delta only bullheads they messed up the whole river systems diversion was a very big problem and a lot water loss was a very big part
That's about the same time I noticed fishing dropping off in the upper Sacramento near Redding.
The fishing was good for a month. I would catch about, 35 or 40 salmon in that month. Now it's dropped off to near nothing.
I've started fishing somewhere else because of it.
Also they didn’t listen what the ADFG said .. once you get the enhanced runs returning stop the hatchery the ocean is no capable of feeding every eggs the spawned .. I got it what’s you said that’s why there’s cycles and. Cdfw try to say salmon doesn’t school she find some our kings in the gulf alaska with there and canadas so what you think about that ?so frustrating
Commercial harvest for the San Francisco and Monterey regions was projected at 62,000 salmon in 2022, but instead, nearly 212,000 fish were harvested. Commercial harvest exceeding the level projected by fishery regulators in 2022 was the single largest contributor to the subsequent low abundance of Sacramento River fall-run spawners. And we wonder why no fish reach the river system. 😂
The real question is how many of those fish made it up to the hatcheries…. Again, do you fish the Sacramento River. Whats your point?
@@DriftmanX yes. That's not a question. Those are stone cold facts.
@@DriftmanX zero of those fish made it up the Sac because they were "overharvested" by commercial. They harvested 3 times the expected amount. This amount doesn't even include charter boats and local guides.
@@DriftmanX The estimated SI during 2022 was 252k salmon. Of this amount, 212k were harvested by commercial. Management expected 122k to "escape", yet only 40k projected salmon remained after commercial harvest. From my understanding, 40k is an exaggerated figure since this number does not even reflect charter/guided and sportsfishing take. This number does not even entail natural predation. The real mismanagement for 2022 was being done by the fisherman (commercial) themselves. BTW, you don't have to fish the river or ocean to understand what happened in 2022. Numbers are numbers.
@@catcheatrelease209 I'm glad someone realizes that harvest was the major reason for closure this past year. Unfortunately, the state of CA has no good way to close the fishery in-season. Even if they did close it, they would have all complained anyways. The commercial and rec guys have every incentive to harvest every last fish as when there is a closure, they get disaster money anyways. For the commercial guys who have to keep their books in order or face fines, they can generally get enough money to last. A lot of the rec guys don't keep good books and as a result, don't receive as much money.
I have personally seen spawning salmon in Ord Bend
The state of California has screwed up salmon fishing just like they have everything eles in the last 20 plus years. They want you to believe they are doing everything they can to save salmon but this is clearly not the case. It's a miracle they have survived this long
Really great film, and it really emphasizes the squeeze that guides in every aspect of the industry are feeling. With that said, you're absolutely asserting opinion that deviates with objective science, which is dangerous. Hatchery salmon are not, genetically, in the same league as native fish. I understand that the impulse from the guide perspective is, "Increase the release of hatchery fish". It seems intuitive. However, it compounds the problem, kills diversity and therefore resilience, and we get closer to the rapid declines that this documentary opines.
Mismanagement, water issues, environmental group's ESA listings ... is driving out anglers and outdoors folks out of the state of California. California seems to be leaning toward completely discouraging anglers from fishing anywhere ... ocean, coastal or inland rivers. Fishing tourism was massive in CA, but not anymore. It's getting harder and harder to care about our watersheds when we are on the water less and less, because our fisheries are being closed one by one. You can't care about your local watershed unless you spend time on it. Fishing is the way to do this, even if we catch and release. I will probably consider leaving California for Oregon at some point because of the lack of fishing opportunities. Oregon has its fishery issues as well, but they seem to welcome their anglers dollars into their local economies, they take care of their ports, harbors, boat launches, recreational access points and they also keep their campgrounds clean. Many more anglers/hunters will leave CA and move to other states if our fish managers continue to shut down fisheries instead of trying to recover and replenish them.
Too many commercial and party boats fishing for profit, not enough fish and not enough water/water quality. All I hear in this video are complaints about not making money and various sales pitches to gain donorship. 😂
Do you fish for salmon on the Sacramento River?
@@DriftmanX yes I do. I fish both salt and fresh.
@@catcheatrelease209I see your point but I don’t think your ideas are applicable.
To each their own.
@@DriftmanX The commercial take numbers don't lie.
The commercial take numbers are a conglomerate of salmon from up and down the entire west coast. The sport industry in the Sacramento River target only Sacramento fish. Education is important. Until 2008 the sport industry didn't give a single dollar to raise salmon. Before that only the commercial industry paid around 150 dollars per fisherman.
Tell the truth. Placer County Water District continues to kill thousands of salmon and steelhead trout every year in failing to place fish screens on six major pumping stations on the Auburn Ravine. In just a 48 hour period over 1200 salmon were captured at one pumping station and it is estimated that we loose tens of thousands every year... Are we stupid or something?
Bottom line is the fishery has been mismanaged for over eighty years . Its a worldwide fact that dams and salmon don't get along, you can have the best habitat in the world but if the fish cant get there it's useless. It 's my understanding that hatchery fish do not have as strong of a ability to return to the same river. When you look at the history of raising salmon its evident that , its not been successful . Raising hatchery fish has been done all over the world starting in France , Europe , JAPAN and Russia. All with failure.
if you can;t tell them apart - how do you know what you've caught? You know for a fact there are no wild origin fish left? they do have different genes - correct? if we have damns - we need hatcheries - that is clear - or we have no more salmon at all.
I've seen with my own eyes hatchery and wild fish spawning with each other.
The hatchery comes. From the wild so it’s wild fish that’s where misconception is .. the problem cdfw does they all the river eggs together .. they don’t know which is what .. ADFG was like what you guys doing that’s the wrong way do that
There stupid the amount we have getting let it out Jesus .. cdfw is ridiculous .. they just don’t learn ADFG was down her last year at pacific council and they disregard what she said .. they know what they doing I am Bristol bay sockeye commercial fisherman .. I live here ca went there instead of here .. why because this right .. I’m was on the board for herring fisherman that guy is right it’s criminal how there attitude is
And Newsome wants the tunnel.
I say we close commercial fishing for 10 years
Do you realize that the size limit for commercial fishing is 27 inches? That sport size is 20 inches? That the in river sport industry targets only Sacramento river fish. I catch commercial salmon that come from dozens of rivers on the west coast.
@@thomaslemons6494 you do realize the numbers projected are based on Sacramento river fish? Education is important. Unless these projections are way off, the numbers don't lie.
@thomaslemons6494 three times the projected harvest, is farm more harvest than "alloted". I don't care how many fish you sprinkle in there from other west coast rivers. I'm almost certain a majority of those would have made its way under the bridge and into the Delta system.
I commercial troll caught salmon on the California coast from fort Bragg to Eureka.
I say only allow a certain number of boats to fish.
It's not a free for all for fisherman to come from Oregon and Washington or Alaska.
And when each boat has reached a quota, no more fishing salmon that season.
Sport fisherman have a limit. So should commercial fisherman.
Charter boats can have a limit of one fish per customer a day.
And those customers or fisherman can catch 5 salmon a season on the ocean.
It regulates fishing but also keeps fishing open for the economy.
No I mean the hole strip from the Arctic circle to Mexico if we didn't catch any salmon for 10 years I wouldn't doubt it if they double in numbers or even triple
1:52 right off the bat this dude saying it impacts his business but yet fails to realize his company and the hundreds of other charters are the reason why salmon runs have been short we need to outlaw all oceanic salmon fishing period and only allow small water ways and rivers to be able to fish for them
Something tells me you don't actually fish for salmon. Salmon in the rivers are hit and miss on meat quality. Ocean salmon are fresh and full of fat,red meat and delicious. You can catch quality salmon in the river but as the season progresses more and more of those fish start getting dark and loosing their meat quality. And in the river is where they're actively spawning. Yes I agree on smaller limits for commercial anglers but to only allow fishing in freshwater is ludicrous
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about with no facts to back that statement up. If you watched the entire video, it clearly breaks down the cause and effects with facts to back the claims.
Man trying to play god and Mother Nature that only equals failure