DO NOT BUY a 2010-2017 2.4L Chevy Equinox or GMC Terrain!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- issues I have found online and thru groups and forums about the 2.4L 2010-2017 equinox.
I currently own a 15 and don't have issues with mine. I made this video to warn others so they can try to prevent these issues from happening to them. not all people will have these issues but it doesn't hurt to try to prevent them from happening.
I am not bashing or trash talking as some have suggested since these are real issues that people have pretty often.
PCV valve Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) #14882
Google chevy equinox oil consumption recall for more information on the lawsuit and recall.
AC Delco FC219 vented oil cap is about $15 at autozone.
CFM vented oil cap is available on CFM's site for about $80.
recall parts list-file found specified 2013 only but the recall goes back to 2010 from what I've read.
Quantity Part Name Part No.
1 GASKET KIT, CYL HEAD 12637166
1 GASKET KIT, CM/SHF CVR 12609291
1 GASKET, ENG FRT CVR 24435052
1 GASKET, CTLTC CONV PIPE SEAL 24505057
1 CHAIN, KIT 12680750
1 CHAIN ASM, W/PUMP AND BALR SHF 12635427
1 TENSIONER ASM, W/PMP & BALR SHF CHAIN 12649233
1 GUIDE, BALR CHAIN (UPPER) 90537336
1 GUIDE, BALR CHAIN ADJ 90537299
1 SEAL, CR/SHF FRT OIL 12584041
1 BOLT, HFH W/CON WA 11589123
2 BOLT, CM/SHF POSN ACTR 11588844
1 BOLT, CON ROD 11570825
1 PISTON, KIT 12683595
1 FILTER, ENGINE OIL 12605566
5 OIL, ENG DEXOS1 GEN2 88865635
2 SEALANT, RTV 19369831
1 Coolant, Engine, Dexcool Antifreeze 12346290
PCV valve issue - cold oil releases water vapor as it warms up. this vapor escapes thru the small hole with any air from the air pressure trying to build up. this vapor can freeze inside the hole in temps below 20F. when the hole is plugged, pressure builds up and blows the front or rear main seal. cost to fix is about $1800.
oil consumption - oil passes by the piston rings and into the combustion chamber so it burns with the gas. eventually, your oil level will be too low to properly lubricate the internal parts and can make them fail. this is usually where timing chains fail, and can also lead to blowing your engine. the sensor in these cars that are supposed to warn you about your oil being too low also don't work. so actually many people drive around with barely any oil in their cars and have no idea unless they check the oil dipstick.
recommendation is to check your oil level on the dipstick and change your oil every 3500 miles or less. go by miles and do not go by your oil life monitor that shows the oil percentage. that is a failsafe to warn you to change your oil before its way too late.
many people who claim they have no issues actually ARE having issues that they are unaware of. when you take your car somewhere for an oil change, you dont see how much comes out. you could have only 3 quarts drain out and have the other 2 quarts burn up, and not know it is happening.
also blowby happens which is common on all vehicles to an extent. but on these cars, the blowby can be worse than the majority of cars. gasoline will dilute and break down the lubrication qualities of your oil over time. it can make your engine wear faster. if you change your oil often (3500 miles or less) you can keep fresh oil in your car that isn't diluted or broken down.
I changed my own oil after buying mine and had 5 quarts come out of the engine. refilled with 5 quarts. after about 30k miles, my oil smelled like gasoline. so I know I have a decent amount of blowby but my oil levels stay full.
I will add that I am not a mechanic, but the oil change of 3500 miles was my mechanic's recommendation, and he literally told me to do so "no matter which oil type or brand you use". the vented oil caps are not guaranteed to prevent the PCV issue but CAN be a 2nd line of defense for the issue. - Hry
I own a 2015 Equinox, 2.4 L, and run it up in Canada where the temps can go from +30C (90F) to -30C (-20F). I have owned it for 2.5 years, it has 150,000 km (93,000 miles) on it and I have had ZERO problems with it. I change the oil at the intervals when the indicator says it's time.
Glad to hear it. But I do still strongly suggest getting the FC219 oil cap as an extra precaution. And please be sure to update if you ever blow a rear main seal in cold.
I own a 2011 Equinox 2.4, Burns oil, i mix the oil with sealing stuff for the piston rings and it works, should got a V6 one, the 4 cyl one is underpowered and a gaz guzzler but it rides like your on a couch and its a nice looking car
@@felixgohier1638 my 2015 2.4 feels underpowered but I get great fuel mileage hand calculated usually get 27-29 average which for an suv I'm more then content with my other vehicle is a lifted silverado that gets about 11 so I'm happy with the mileage of my wife's terrain
@@andrewmoore4744 When i first drove it, i said to the family member i brough it for: why does it barely goes foward, its kinda turdish. The color is tan so its the perfect grampa SUV, but its still a nice looking SUV and gets myself and my family to point A to B safely, the things i hate the most about it is the turdish engine and the tan paint.
Do you keep your car in a garage or parked outside during winter?
Had a 2013 for 5 years, only replaced oxygen sensor and regular oil changes. It was reliable.
No matter what car you're trying to buy, you will always find people with bad experiences. 50% maintenance 50% luck. 😅
True but these are built worse lol. Actually regular oil changes at 3500 miles or less were recommended to me to keep the issues from happening for a longer time.
You are blessed because I got one of the ones that I just found out is under the massive oil consumption lawsuit. It is currently sitting in my driveway unable to drive until Chevrolet decides to do a recall.
On average Toyota will be way better than many. Honda is right next to Toyota.
@@mikefoehr235 yup. But they are more expensive too. Still might be looking at one of those when I trade in my equinox tho.
@@timmypstyle I got my SR5 TRD OR last year for $51 0000 CAD....about 30 less than big 3 prices.
Owned 3 Terrains now 2010, 2014 and now 2017, never had a single problem.
How many miles did you put on them? Because it doesn't seem like you had them even close to long enough to have issues show up. I'm sure whoever has the 10 is having issues by now and possibly same with the 14. I have 74k miles on mine with no issues but I see tons of people having oil consumption and PCV valve issues with all years.
I've heard the 2010 to 2014 Terrain 4 cylinder engines had issues. My parents have a 2015 4 cylinder with about 60k no problem. I have a 2018 2.0L.
@@Tortomus the 2012 to 2017 had no changes done to them. So a 17 is the same exact setup as a 12. 10 and 11 were slightly worse.
@@timmypstyle 2017 and newer is good anything below that is the bad engine. I know alot about cars and I did tons of research B4 I bought the 17 model.
@@Notyouraveragewhiteguy no that isn't true. 2018-2021 are totally different engines than the 2010-2017 engines. The 2.4L in 2010 and 2011(engine code LAF) were terrible and in 2012(engine code LEA) they did a very small change internally. After that change in 2012, nothing changed until the engines were replaced in 2018. So a 2017 is still prone to seeing the same issues as the earlier ones. 2017 had the same LEA 2.4L as the 2012 LEA 2.4L. Nothing changed at all in the engines between those years. So a 17 is not more reliable. The 2018 and newer cars offer turbo 4 cylinder engines and so far have been a lot better.
Sad to hear of the issues you have faced or fear to face. Uncle owns a 2011 and 2014 and both are over 200,000 miles and no oil issues at all. One water pump, one abs module went bad. Otherwise only normal maintenance items (pads, plugs, belts, etc). Good luck.
I sold it in July. But just this past Wednesday I saw a post about a blown engine happening along with 2 others commenting on their blowing in the past few days. One literally was on her way home from getting the oil consumption test started at the dealership. They change your oil like 3 times within 5000 miles or something like that to check the amount of oil lost and decide if your engine needs to be replaced on their dime or not based on how much is lost. So she literally drove like 20 miles on new oil and boom.
I have a 2014 Chevrolet Equinox 2LT 3.6 V6. I bought it in November of 2020 it had 40,000 miles on it when I bought it. I recently took a vacation out to Colorado to see my brother. We drove my equinox to test it’s reliability. It did a fantastic job during the entire vacation. As of April 20th I rolled 50,000 miles and I am still 100% happy with my vehicle. I take very good care of it I change the oil every 3,000 miles. Before I roll 100,000 miles I’m going to have the engine gone over. To check the timing chain and other issues that may pop up.
Yeah the V6s only pretty much have issues with the timing chains but they are still 40x more reliable than the 2.4L. Luckily I don't drive mine too much so hopefully that will hold the issues off a little bit lol.
Petty sure the 3.0 v6 is the issue that's why they switched to the 3.6 v6
@@jonr.747 the 3.6 has a lower percentage of issues but they both have timing chain issues. Just quite a bit more common with the 3.0L
I have 2013 3.6.change oil with synthetic every 3000 mile.wont use gm filter..wix syn or premium guard.listen to timing chain's with stethoscope. no issue's. i also listen to people.i won't get a gm car again. though i love this one.
Do not use a gm filter.they are just canned elements.try a wix.
I've had my 2015 2.4 cyl equinox and it has been amazing. My grandma gave it to me when I was 16 and I ran that thing hard. I've had it for 5 years now and have put 70k hard miles on it. I live in a very hot area so I don't have to worry about some of those cold related problems you've mentioned. I read a few months after I got the car about it's engine problems. But I just let it warm up every morning and use full synthetic Castrol edge oil and six oil filter and change it every 4500 miles. In the 5 years I've had it I only replaced the vvt solenoid after a long fast drive in the canyons.
Glad to hear it. There are good ones out there. My friend's sister has a gmc terrain that needs new pistons and rings right now
My 2011 Equinox has had zero engine issues. 100,000 miles. Still very quiet running motor.
Glad to hear it!
Do you have oil problem now ?When time you change the oil ? I buy the same model and I’m little scare I don’t want pay already repair 😅
I’ve had my 2014 for four years and I’ve had to change my VVT solenoids twice because this engine clogs them up so badly. And then when it happens, the car stalls when you’re sitting still. Right after you take your foot off of the brake, and before you push on the gas pedal. Super annoying because you get honked at lol! That being said, they’re easy to change out and $50/part. There are two. One for the intake and one for the exhaust. Intake is in the towards the front of the vehicle and is gray, exhaust is behind it towards the rear of the vehicle and is black. Autozone has these as a lifetime part, so now you can take the one you purchased from them and simply exchange the bad for the good. If you’re in a real pinch, you can hose them off and it will buy you a touch of time. Thanks for the video!!
I have a 2012 Equinox with a 3.6L V6. I have 127,000 on it, never had a problem with it. It had 4 miles on it when i got it. I am still getting 26 MPG with all the mileage on it.
The 3.6L is about 100x more reliable than the 2.4L. Pretty much all you really have to worry about are the timing chains stretching in yours.
It's the 2.4l engine that has the problems, I doubt your getting 26 mpg with the 3.6l . Your transmission lines are about to start leaking so watch for that.
I installed a catch can on my 2016 equinox . Have the Ls with the 2.4. I change my own oil. Bought this car brand new. Only issue I ran into so far was the transmission downshifts from 2nd to 1st a little rough. I changed the fluid and put some Lucas hard shifting fix in it and it runs much better . Engine runs great . I also replaced the muffler since it rusted a hole but it is a good car . I have 111,000 on it . Ran it all over the country . Great highway mileage . Get 33 to a gallon no problem going 70mph. Sometimes 35 to a gallon .
Bought my 2010 3.0 5 years and 130,000 miles ago (currently at 183,000. Just thermostat, water pump, radiator and fuel pump replaced. Oil changes every 3,000 and no lead footing and so far I can’t complain. I do believe that you either get a good one or a lemon. I’m extremely thankful to have gotten a good one.
My mechanic recommended 3500 miles or less on oil changes to keep it running well. So you may have caught it in time and done the proper changes. 👍
Same here on my 16 2.4 155k at every 3k miles oil change and lead foot mine and tow usually 2k lbs every couples months over mountains she’s a beast so far no issues.
Same with the oil changes , my dad got me a 2013 equinox back in 2017.
And since then I’ve been doing the oil changes every 3k miles and check oil level every week.
My car has 160k and still runs smooth even tho I use it to work on DoorDash 🤓🤓🤓
We had a new 2014 Equinox 4 cylinder and put just under 100,000 miles on it with no issues and was so satisfied that we traded it in on a 2016 with 32,000 miles on it a year ago. It had a leaking axle seal when we got it and they replaced the axle and seal and have had no problems since. Hoping our good luck continues. We use strictly synthetic oil and change it per the percentage of life gauge.
Glad to hear it! But I strongly recommend changing the oil sooner than the oil life gauge says. Thats actually a contributor as to why so many have issues. I recommend 3500 miles.
@@timmypstyle THis is true, I told my wife we should change the oil at the 20% mark if not watching the mileage.
2011 equinox 140000 miles runs like a clock change my oil every 2500 miles have done my own
maintenance oil changes, differential oil change, and transfer case oil change replaced a front
left wheel hub bearing it was a Moog works beautifully. I did a complete rotor, caliper, brake line
brake pad replacement. Expect maintenance on high mileage vehicles. Change your oil
regularly it will keep your timing chain in check. Car was made in Canada.
Yes frequent oil changes are best, and keep an eye on oil level. They CAN be good vehicles but are very sensitive to even the slightest neglect. For example 5k mile oil changes or changing transfer casevand trans fluid too late. Its bad for all vehicles to prolong the intervals but these things are a lot more sensitive to it. I also havena moog wheel bearing on my 06 monte carlo and its been great for almost 3 years.
I have a 2015. Bought new. Has the 4 banger in it. It has been nothing but junk.
I’ve had both steering wheel controls replaced (within first year), I had front axle replaced (within first year), center stack replaced (within first year-it froze and locked up) couldn’t control radio functions or heat/ac). Had second center stack replaced 5 yrs later (I have an extended warranty), had engine mounts replaced (within first year), had drivers window motor replaced twice, my Ac/Heat didn’t work after 5 years and they had to take entire dash apart to get to the heat/ac control modular deep down in dash, had 2 alternators replaced, I just had a water pump replaced in feb of 2021.
Half my engine was replaced including timing chain last year in 2020, had the middle muffler replaced by a muffler shop, dealership wanted over a grand which I didn’t have and it wasn’t covered by warranty. Had wiper motor replaced, had rear shocks replaced. And as of today 4/25/21 it just turned over 95,000 miles.
Most was replaced within the 3 yr 36,000 mile bumper to bumper, the rest replaced last year under my extended warranty.
IVE NEVER OWNED A PIECE OF SHIT BEFORE UNTIL I GOT THIS VEHICLE.
Thanks for changing my mind! Sorry for all that you've been through.
@@shannonmcclain2036 if you can avoid getting one, I would. I’ve seen many of these for sale. In fact. 4 weeks ago my engine was rattling and was starting to make lots of noise (like it did back in July). July it had the engine torn down (again) but I end up with a $2,500.00 bill. It started again last month, I knew where it was headed to. So I traded it in for a 2014 V6 GMC Acadia fully loaded with 96,000 on it, perfect condition, One owner and dealership MAINTANCED. I’m glad I got rid of it.
@@jackschissler255 Thanks a lot! I did purchase the Acadia Denali 2017! Blessings 🥰
That is shocking!
I bought a brand new 2021 Chevy Equinox and within five months after the purchase, I received a letter from GM about my car faulty electronic system. So they had to do a service recall, but I had no issues since.
That is shocking!
I bought a brand new 2021 Chevy Equinox and within five months after the purchase, I received a letter from GM about my car faulty electronic system. So they had to do a service recall, but I had no issues since.
I have a 2013 Chevy Equinox and I LOVE my Equinox. I have had no issues and recommend them whole heartedly.
You have 1 car that is doing well. I'm glad to hear that it is fine so far but there was a class action lawsuit with over 1 million customers, which forced a recall. And that was only between the years of 2010-2013. They are still currently paying back customers on a daily basis for problems relating to the oil consumption. I see people asking which lawyer to contact about it just about every day.
I have a 2013, bought used in 2021 at 95k miles. Burns a quart of oil every 4-500 miles. Since I have owned it. Doing an engine change at 120k miles. Timing chain went, didn’t destroy the engine. But for the sake of sanity I’m changing the engine. The new engine will have a 5 year 100k mile warranty. So yeah it will be worth it.
Other then oil consumption on my 2013 Equinox, only during short trips. To Florida and back ZERO consumption. But back home local trips back 1/2 quart consumption per 1000 is typical again. Love mine
We bought a 2017 GMC Terrain with the 2.4 engine and took it on vacation 3 weeks later and it kept stalling out. Found out it was the VVT (variable valve timing) solenoid. Turning off the ecoboost seemed to help it temporarily until we replaced it. A $50 part and about 20 minutes later we were back on the road.
Yes cheap and easy fix but from what I've heard from other owners, they fail more often than they should.
@@timmypstyle I’ve replaced my intake and exhaust once already On my 16 2.4
umm how do you turn off the ecoboost?
@@sactownmopar I think he means the eco button. A lot of people drive in eco mode all the time and ive seen mixed concerns about the eco mode actually causing the VVT solenoid to fail.
@@timmypstyle it’s a 4 pot what eco mode do you need I just use it regular.
I own a 2015 Equinox. Bought it brand new. Now has 98,000 miles on. Only thing we have ever had to do to it is change the battery. We keep the oil changed, tires rotated and it's still going on the SAME TIRES. BEST CAR IVE EVER OWNED.
Thats great! There are definitely people that have no issues. But the percentage of people who have issues are way more than most other cars.
Wait till you need a water pump and get quotes for the job.
You’re lucky. Yours must have been built on a Wednesday. Most of them were built on Monday and have problems with oil consumption and variable valve timing solenoids.
@@tedfox2683 you're seriously complaining about the VVT Solenoids? They are cheap and easy to replace.
Remember to replace your AIR FILTER every 15000 to 20000 miles no farther.
So many people never bother or unaware that engine must breathe clean air to perform run problem free and get good fuel economy.
Good advice. So many people overlook that.
A mi me paso exactamente lo mismo con Chevy equinox 2013, la cadena de distribución y el tensor hidráulico se arruino por bajo nivel de aceite y ningun testigo daba alerta. Todo pasó como tu dices.
Taking mine in this weekend. Hopefully, if it does fail the oil consumption test then it's covered under that recall still. 2013 with 88,000 miles. Previous owner had for 5 years, no issues.
Recommend changing oil every 3,000 miles.
New timing chain kit every 100k
(Full kit with phasers and solenoids& water pump)
Pressure release oil cap
Check oil every 1000 miles to be safest
One of ours is pushing 400k ORIGINAL MOTOR.
Just figured I'd throw that out there.
Been working on these since they came out. Same goes for the 2.2 eco
I have a question. I just got a new engine put in my terrian in july bc the timing chain broke. Now 3 months later the car is hesitating when I let off the gas... almost like its having trouble switching gears. Any ideas?
Oh and it's also hesitating when I try to accelerate quickly. It seems to go away when my fuel is low.
@@ItsmeBish584 experiencing the same issue, have you ever figured it out? We’ve taken it several times and apparently the dealer can’t replicate the issue. I call BS. Already had transmission replaced and told we need to replace timing chain next as its loose. Sounds like a tin can is ratting under car, especially at start up before oil flows through.
I recommend the kit that comes with disruptors instead of phasers.
I have 201,856 miles on my 2010 Equinox. I’ve changed the timing chain and guides, and water pump. Check oil level once a month, add oil as needed between changes.
So far, mine doesn't use oil. I haven't had to add any. I also check it twice a month.
Hey at about what milage did you change your water pump? And have you changed the thermostat yet?
@@OmarHernandez-sc9br water pump and thermostat at 194,000 miles.
When we change the oil at the garage they just change the oil or refile it too ?
The issue I have is that my vehicle is rusting out. Other than that still runs good and I change my oil every 5000 miles. Currently has 149,200 miles on the odometer
I have a 2011 Terrain with the 2.4 Ecotec. It currently has 220k on it and is still running strong. It does burn oil, and it did have some issues at less that 40k that the dealer was able to take care of. Also had to replace the VVT solenoids at around 100k. I change the oil ever 4k miles with full synthetic 5w-30, and I usually end up adding a total of 1.5 - 2 quarts between oil changes. Overall I am happy with the vehicle and my wife is going to be sad when it finally does die, whenever that may be.
Glad yours is doing at least ok lol. Even the ones that run are still high maintenance.
@timmypstyle I really don't consider adding oil as high maintenance. Other than the one set of VVT solenoids, which are very easy to replace, the only maintenance I had to do are fluids, brakes, plugs filters, all of which need to be done on any vehicle. No water pumps, alternators, not even a thermostat or hoses not to mention not a lick of work on the AC which still blows cold. Pretty good in my book for a GM with over 220k.
@MrDfbwa I consider a vehicle that you have to watch so closely that it doesn't run out of 5 quarts of oil and blow before its time for an oil change, as high maintenance. Some people lose all 5 quarts in a matter of a couple weeks, let alone before getting their oil changed.
I've owned 16 vehicles, new and old with high mileage, and have never had a vehicle lose more than half a quart before the oil change interval.
@timmypstyle meh, I guess it is all a natter of perspective. In high school I drove a 20 year old pickup that I had to check the oil every day, so I got in the habit of doing that every week or so with all my vehicles since then, depending on how much it is driven. No big deal to me.
2014 with 70,000 miles. Oil changes happen all the time as I burn about 3 quarts of oil between every oil change. It’s more like a filter change lol.
Thanks for your comment. Thats one reason why im trying to steer people clear of these cars with my videos. I see people having the same problem as you multiple times per week.
@@timmypstyle From what I’ve researched it’s the design of the piston rings allowing the oil seep past and burn. GM tells their certified mechanics to replace the piston rings under warranty. Out of warranty they tell you that you need to replace the engine.
@@danr8787 yup they have weak piston rings. Even if you get a new replacement crate engine from GM right now, it still has the same weak rings. I actually explain what happens from the weak rings in 1 of the 2 videos I made.
But yes what you said is kinda correct. Both under warranty and out of warranty, they will have you come in for an oil consumption test. That means, they change your oil, tell you to come back after you've driven a certain number of miles. Then they change it again and document how much oil was lost, and tell you to drive again. When you come back the 3rd time, they change the oil and again document the oil loss. If its over like 1 quart in 2000 or 3000 miles, they will replace the pistons and rings or the engine. Which one is determined by GM based on how bad it is. But that also means that 0.9 quarts lost within those miles driven is deemed "normal" by them. And if that happens, then they won't do anything to help.
If you ever need a replacement crate engine, look into Jasper engines. So far, out of all the people ive seen who replaced theirs with a jasper engine, ive only seen 1 person say they've had similar issues with it.
I got rid of my equinox before anything started with it. Had it for 7 months and bought it with 70k, and sold it with 73k on it to a dealership for the exact price I bought it for from another dealership. Didn't need 4x4 or awd for over a year as I quit my job and started a summer business. So I didn't have to go anywhere during the winter when it was bad out. Now I'm at a job again and just bought an 06 chevy trailblazer 4x4 two months ago to use in the winter.
I own a 2017 equinox.. one of the midnight editions. I haven’t had any engine problems and pray that I don’t ever have any. But the only problem I am having with it is the heater goes in and out. I’ve done work to it, like installing a sub and amp, professionally done, had angel wing courtesy wings installed, and had changed all incandescent lights to LEDs. That’s all so no major problems thankfully
I hope you don't have issues too. But from the numbers I've seen, GM sent letters out to over 80% of the 2013 equinox and terrain owners and nothing was changed from 12 to 17. So logically, over 80% of all of them are prone to having issues.
Bought a 2011 Terrain 2.4, supposedly they changed pistons and rings on a recall because of oil consumption problems. My daughter was driving it at the time. Can tell you mileage isn't that great, my daughter said she got considerably better mileage than me, 18-19 city 20-24hwy for me depending on speed. Heard the same problem with PVC because of excessive idling. I did change my cracked exhaust manifold which seems to happen to all of them just a matter of when(100,000 for me). Incidentally when it cracks the exhaust fumes will pour into the vehicle. I'm going to try and change the O2 sensors and see if that helps. Tuned it up put ruthenium spark plugs in. Another drawback is the large windshield corner posts(blindspots), make sure it's clear when pulling out. Not a bad vehicle but I like considerably more power.
I had a 201 terrain
I got 32 mpg on the highway for the three years I had it
It was a lease and I was going to buy it because the buyout was just under 10 grand
I went with a Jeep Grand Cherokee instead
I am so glad I did that after seeing all the problems that people are having with these engines.
I have 2015 Chevy equinox
With 130 k miles on it got it at 60 k
Only changed oil and intake sensor and exhaust sensor and spark plugs
Also add injector cleaner every some miles. Zero issues
Glad to hear it. Keep up on what you're doing. Using good synthetic oil is definitely something that helps since the gasoline that mixes in doesn't break it down.
We have a 2016 Equinox LTZ 2.4L with 155,000. Only one issue. It would start run 2-5 seconds and stall. No check engine light, no codes. I disconnected the MAF sensor it started and ran with a check engine light and a code. Replaced sensor-fixed. I am a retired aircraft mechanic and a car shade tree mechanic I have absolutely no complaints. Very easy to work on IMHO. I live in Florida so the car is never in cold OAT's. Good info though brother on the PVC valve.
I have a 2017 V6 Equinox w/AWD. I bought it in early 2020. I bought it with 17,245 miles. I just hit the 100k mark last week. I have had very little issues with it since I got it. With all my cars regardless of what they are. I change the oil myself with full synthetic at 50% oil life. That for the time of driving I do is about once every 2.5 to 3 month interval. Its about 5,000-6,000 mile intervals. I would suggest doing something like that since oil is cheap. Engines are expensive
The PCV valve should be placed at the highest point on the engine, which in the 2.4 case is the oil filler cap.
Simply buy a non-gm oil filler cap, drill a 3/4 in. hole and put in a grommet, and use any PCV valve that fits.
PCV works off of engine vacuum .
The catch can is the clincher.
Attach an emission hose from the PCV valve to the " in " on the catch can.
Then tee into the brake booster hose, " before " the check valve which is inline, near the booster inlet nipple.
Reposition the check valve in the elbow a little farther down the hose, it still works in the elbow.
You also need a brass 1/2 in PEX tee where you tap into the hose near the booster vacuum nipple.
( you can also ditch the brake booster hose, which collapses for some reason near the rad hose, and replace with high quality 11/32 emission hose)
( using any other hose than emission rated is dangerous ) ( clear teflon being the best )
The "out" hose from the catch can attaches to the brass PEX tee, with the tee facing down.
Mount the catch can as low as possible ( not touching the ground ) on the pass front subframe.
There is a hole there already, for a bolt.
After this is done, you will no longer get white foamy goo on the dipstick, oil filler cap, or on the breather fitting on the air cleaner., at lower temps, etc.
Drilling into the intake manifold PCV orifice is plain retarded and won't cure anything.
Although I don't personally own a Terrain with a 2.4 Ecotec, I know it is a great engine.
What's wrong with the GMC Terrain is the human who did shoddy engine assemblage.
( Any engine can blow up or have serious internal damage for no detectable reason, or no detectable sabotage reason. )
If the assembly line were fully robotized, goodbye GMC Terrain forum.
Awesome information! I have a GM vented oil cap which apparently releases at 2-3PSI and also A CFM oil cap that has a nylon ball inside that lifts up with just .1PSI. Currently GM vented cap is on but I might switch it back for the extra protection from the lower release rating.
@@timmypstyle Well, hope it all works out for you.
@@seapeddler thanks. So far mine is fine but ive only had it for 5 months and 2k miles. Ive just seen so many people post about having issues so I researched, and found all sorts of info. So I just made the video to try to warn people.
@@timmypstyle Yes, so much dis-information on a simple fix.
The plastic vacuum fitting on the inlet manifold where the brake booster hose assembly connects, is the best source of vac for the PCV valve. There is no need to drill holes anywhere.
But insert the brass tee 'before' the inline plastic check valve.
That little valve is held in with an Otiker clamp which is easily removed; and then you insert the valve farther into the hose to the right.
The catch can ensures that only combustible vapors enter the engine and thus prevents valve coking. ( GDI fix )
Lately the big car companies have been making Chilkoot Pass type problems.
Big lime-ups at the parts store, ha, ha,...
Let's be glad only Ford does the spark plug blow-out dance ?
Another peculiarity with the Terrain is the pinched small dia. metal line on the gas filler pipe assembly.
Always drop that pipe and deal with the corrosion immediately.
It is $189.00 ... !
But if you are rich, fire and forget, as the saying goes.
I don't think is a good idea take the vac of booster line because you are altering the vac of booster and brake will be affected
Bought a brand new 2011 equinox. Less than a year later it needed a complete engine replacement. Didn't cost me a cent due to the warranty. The dealership provided a vehicle for me while the work was being done (at no cost obviously) and cut me a check for 3 months of payments. After that incident, I had it for 10 years.
What dealer is this?!? 10 years ago wow but business was different
How many miles after the 10yrs?
@@prestigeworldwide5538 odometer read 153,000 but that was the mileage with the old and new engine. They didn't reset it with the new engine. Also, after 10 years I was forced to get rid of it due to the frame rusting (wouldn't pass inspection). 10 years of western New York winters!
@@theokayestmtber7877 Thank you, I've got a 2015 that has been really great. Had a 2000 something had front end accident and was repaired except Noone caught the water pump was damaged and well. No Bueno. Dealer repair and insurance split the new engine and I traded it for a nightmare 2012. Drank oil real bad. This was the beginning of all the oil consumption claims and I had been noting all the intervals with loss and refill. Saved a lot of time but got the piston ring job done and everything was great for about 3 weeks. Then a deer wanted to go to forever sleep and took a leap in front of me doing 70mph. Dead and dead. 2015 I have has never seen the dealership or repair shop since I bought it. Has had the known abouts happen, rear wheel bearing, exhaust manifold discovered while changing out catalytic/flex pipe replacement and then 1st muffler pinch weld. So all in all 190k and the damn thing runs like a scolded dog. But just yesterday I acquired a bad vibration while stopped in drive or reverse. Not in park. I'm leaning towards motor mounts since no codes are coming up.
@@prestigeworldwide5538 damn!!!!!
I had the stalling issue in my 2015 so I changed out the camshaft position actuator solenoid and corrected the problem. Alternator went bad at 70k miles and now at 80k the serpentine belt tensioner is going bad. My equinox rides and handles beautifully but the 2.4 engine doesn’t seem to be very reliable.
No its not reliable at all lol.
I had a 2015 GMC Terrain and never once had a single problem with it. I now have a 2020 GMC Terrain and so far I've never had any problems. The 2020 GMC Terrain has SOOOO much more power than the 2015 did but the 2015 I thought was powerful enough.
Sureee bud
Only problem i have had with my 2013 Terrain Denali is the passenger side suspenion, fixed alot on it cant seem to find a thudding noice everytime i hit an imperfection on the road..
Wish I found this video in January... mine has been nothing but problems. 😭😭😭
Toyota or Honda
Equinox is junk
On my 2nd engine and 3rd catalytic converter just now at 85000 mi, bought this new in 2012.
Have always taken it to dealership and maintained maintenance.
Currently at the dealership for a loud grinding noise upon ignition. Two days prior (this was in August) I was running the AC and the vehicle was loud and slight rattling noise.
Initially thought it was a timing belt or chain but later on the dealership says they misdiagnosed it and now its the transmission ($5500).
This has been nothing but issues after about the 3rd year. (231012)
I have since then purchased a 2023 Tundra.
Okay I have a Chevrolet equinox, started using oil very heavily, found the problem, the brakes in front were grabbing, new brake shoes new rotors and new calipers, still doing it, changed rubber brake line running to calipers in both front, no more grabbing of brakes, freed up moving ability, and guess what, no more oil consumption, brakes grabbing was putting to much strain on the engine, so I suggest changing your rubber brake lines running to both front calipers
I did three rear mains on these cars this winter in two weeks…. I always drill the pcv orifice out too…
Bought my 2013 in ‘18 with 92,000 from a Chevy used dealer. Went through oil like nuts!! Come to find out, my car was involved in the lawsuit. The dealership I originally worked with would not help me. I went to another dealer 20miles away and they kept it for 3 weeks (the engine was ruined, by this point) talked to 3 lawyers who all agreed GM will not give you the money deserved. Plus it would drag for months ...meanwhile, I have no car!!! ILuckily, had a top-notch service dealer department who really went to bat for me with GM over the course of two weeks. Ended up I got a brand new engine put in and I only had to pay $500 so that worked out well for me but I agree in buying one of these equinoxes buyer beware and if you get it from a dealer I would definitely do a background check on the serial number just to see where it lies in this lawsuit.
If your engine is still new, change the oil at 500 miles, and then continue changing it every 3500 miles. Do not go by the oil life monitor. And I would say check your oil level with the dipstick at least every 2 weeks to make sure its not going thru oil. It can start happening any time. Ive seen a few people who needed their engines replaced at only 35,000 miles.
I bought my Chevrolet Equinox in 2013, New... It’s May 27, 2021. I’ve NEVER had a problem with mine. Best vehicle I’ve ever had.
You are SO lucky. But I am glad to hear it!
Opposite for me. I have had every problem you could have. Pcv valve froze. Oil consumption is through the roof and the engine finally let go
I have a 2014 2.4 terrain slt awd, bought it with rebuilt title when had around 30k miles. Only paid $6,999 that was around 4 years ago, so figured low mile suv with awd I could use for winter. Wife liked it, so she's driven it daily and has around 70,000 miles now, so we got our money worth. I have no oil blow by, I did put a gm venting oil cap to be safe. Only issue, would stall startups, then run fine, never stalled when driving. Found a youtube video saying add a oil thickener, I added bardahl no smoke, about 1/2 the bottle, approx 8 oz, has never stalled since adding the oil thickener. This was 3 years ago I discovered the oil thickener stopped the stalling. If I don't add it after oil change it stalls, so is just part of my oil changes now, uses very little oil between changes. I'm happy with what I paid and been reliable. No engine codes at all.
Glad to hear it! You definitely got your money's worth.
Ours blew up last week! 2014, I’m in Missouri, hopefully I can get something from the class action lawsuit in the state courts!!!!!
Okay everybody has to draw their own conclusions. I had a 2017 2.4 4 cylinder 6-speed automatic LT all-wheel drive.
I just traded it recently with 82,000 Miles on it.
It burns zero oil, did not have a cooling problem, original engine and transmission, original timing chain, rear main seal, and zero leaks. When I traded it in the dealership open the hood they said to me everything here is original you have replaced no major parts.
I stated there was no reason to it never broke down.
The one thing that I did was always on top of preventive maintenance.
People would say this is overkill but this vehicle never saw a tow truck once.
I did an oil filter change every 3,500 miles and use full synthetic oils.
Every 35,000 miles I would change out the transmission fluid, the rear differential fluid, and the fluid in the transfer case.
As far as any rust issues and paint qualities I would wash the vehicle by hand minimum twice a month and would do a full exterior detail compound wax Etc. Every 6 months.
When I traded it it still looked brand new even the plastic headlights weren't fogged out. It was 6 years old when I traded it and I still got well over 10 grand for it.
With that being said knowing that others had major issues with the vehicle and even though I never did it was always a thought in the back of my mind. For that reason I would never recommend it to anyone.
But it would be up to the consumer to draw their own conclusions on whether they would want one or not. For me it was one of the best vehicles I've ever owned.
Very good comment. That "overkill" you mention is probably going to keep that car going for a long time. But people who follow GM's recommended intervals have a lot lower chance of it being fine. I bought mine with 71k with no issues and sold it with 74k with no issues. But with how many horror stories I found, plus the 3 class action lawsuits over the 2.4L, plus the way GM was denying fixing engines, i wasn't going to deal with that. Already had 3 other vehicles, so I just sold it.
I own a 2013 Equinox 2.4 and I have no issues with it. Mainly because it has always had synthetic oil and regular maintenance. At just over 160k miles, it's still running strong.
Glad to hear it. But it IS still susceptible to having every issue I mention. But the regular maintenance definitely helps.
I purchased a 2014 Equinox 1LT in 2020 for 5K with 180K miles on it! I now have 210K miles and the only repair I made was replacing the water pump. I don’t have any oil consumption issues and I change my oil every 5K miles.
Glad to hear it! Did it ever have it's engine replaced? That's great if it's on it's original engine.
@timmypstyle
It still has the original motor.
It was a fleet vehicle with good maintenance records. The only reason I purchased it because it was 5K and it was the color I was looking (dark grey) with the black interior! So I got a real good deal!
I had my 2014 Equinox with the 2.4 for 5+ years and it was great, never a problem with it. Traded it in with over 100,000 miles on it. We have pretty cold winters in Western NY.
Glad to hear that. Believe me I know about the cold lol. Grew up in Erie PA, moved to Colorado Springs, and moved back to near Erie again but I'm just over the line in Ohio. Colorado had 2 nights that I went to work in -19F. Now back near Lake Erie and see 0 maybe once or twice every few years. I'm 5 blocks from the lake so it keeps it slightly warmer than inland areas get.
Wrong
2013 Terrain. 2.4 150,000 miles Amsoil 5-30 @3500 miles max. Zero problems.
That's exactly what my mechanic said for max intervals. He said every customer he has that did their oil changes at 3500 or less had less problems than the people who went over 3500 mile intervals.
I had a 2010 terrain and had it almost three years before the engine died.the guy that did my oil changes told me it's a oil burner but I wasn't able to trade it before it died
I have the same engine in my 2011 Equinox, burns oil, now when you start it theres rod knocks when its gonna die ill send it to the scrapyard
I currently have a paperweight sitting in my front yard. It strongly resembles a 2017 Chevy Equinox with the 2.4 I4 engine. Bought it with 22, 000 miles on it and put about 74,000 on it (total of 94,000 miles). In January, my wife was driving to work on the freeway. The oil had been changed in late October, still perfectly good. Out of the clear blue sky, she experienced a dramatic loss of power, followed almost immediately by the Low Oil Pressure warning and a loud bang. When I arrived at the car there was ZERO oil in the crankcase and a huge puddle of oil under the engine. I put four quarts in it, started it up, and shut it off right away due to the enormous knocking noise coming from the engine. Dealership was no help, GM was absolutely NO help. Engine is blown and needs replacing, to the tune of about $5,000. If anyone has a link to the current class-action lawsuit (for the 2017 models), let me know. GM and Chevy will NEVER see another dime of my money. All of the Ecotec engines (2.4 I4, 3.6 V6. and 5.3 V8) have real problems with oil control, and GM does NOTHING to fix them. GM is now at the very top of my corporate S**t list.
Again, if you have a link to the class-action lawsuit for the 2017 Equinoxes with the 2.4 I4, reply to this. I could use the help.
Unfortunately, the only lawsuit I've heard of is for earlier ones like 2012 or 2013. Haven't seen any for later years.
Hell 94,000 miles is alot. Must be good maintenance to get it that far
if you see a bunch of oil under your vehicle and you then put a bunch of oil back chevy dosent want you either
Apparently there is another lawsuit currently going on. I haven't seen any info about it myself tho. But try joining the Facebook group "chevy equinox problems". Thats where I learned about the first 2, and if you do some digging, I know people have listed the info on the lawyers who were involved.
The first malfunction was a woman driving it. LOL.
I bought a 2005 in 2006. I still have it and it does have a few issues. I am at 140,000 miles. When I got it in 2006, the engine blew 2 weeks after I got it. Thank goodness, I purchased the EW or I would have been screwed. I was told that my engine is in upside down, which I didn't know. I do now have issues with oil and antifreeze issues. It seems to overheat and I have to like turn off the car for a little while. I do have the 6 cylinder. I am going to be trading it in soon. I was thinking about getting a 2021 but now, probably not.
2021 so far is fine. From 2018 and newer, they have totally different engines in them. I have not seen any complaints in the Facebook groups except 2 people saying they got a code for the turbo having overboost or underboost.
yep my 2017 blew the rear main seal because of their faulty pcv system freezing upwhen the temp dropped right after the warranty ended. dealer wanted $2800 and my extended warranty refused to cover it. i made a complaint on the better business bureau and a day or two later gm contacted me and lead me to believe they were going to help me out. well after a month after the bbb dropped my case and the lady at gm told me there was nothing they would do for me. thankfully my father in law works for a gm dealer and used his discount to get my terrain fixed for around $1000. he owns 2 gm products my wife and i have gmc terrains, hers is a lease. we will not be buying any more gm vehicles ever again and will tell everyone that will listen how gm screwed me and anyone else over that purchased a vehicle with their garbage 2.4
I have a 2014 lt. I change my oil at 30 percent on the dot and I run royal purple synthetic and k&n oil filter. I run crc intake valve cleaner through it every third oil change and pull the intake and pcv pipe and shoot it with a little brake clean. No issues yet. Bought it at 30k have 91k on it now.
I've been told to do that with something similar to the CRC stuff to help prevent the oil consumption. Just something to help break down the carbon buildup right before an oil change. I think yours will have a very good chance at staying in great running condition.
These Equinox's are hit or miss. The newer technology using the high pressure fuel pump and dry air intakes has a lot to improve upon. Intake valves are dirty because there is no fuel spraying into them, the direct injection bypasses this. The pistons get sprayed with high pressure fuel ≥500psi! conventional rings were not made to perform under these conditions. The high pressure fuel sprays the oil right off of the cylinder walls as the piston travels. This causes unprecedented wear on the rings and pistons. I like this vehicle, the best advise is to change the oil every 3K and put the updated vented oil fill cap on. I'm in New England, I let it warm up in the winter before going anywhere, especially when it's below freezing.
That is exactly right. Very good advice. But eben doing those precautions, there is a chance that you'll still have issues including a blown engine. But your chances are a bit less than if you go longer intervals on oil changes and don't use a vented cap.
more like a swing and a miss. you hear far more tales of woe than happy
Any update on the lawsuit? My mom has the 2.4l Equinox with only 80,000 miles,and it’s an oil drinking machine that has led to it needing the timing chain replaced. Dealership quoted $2100 to chain the timing chain but no fix for oil consumption. Sad for older people living on a fixed income.
The only one that nobody should be behind the wheel of. Is any model year equinox painted silver. It will find a deer eventually. at least you will be prepared for it due to the dozen or two close calls beforehand. Other than that and coming from an owner of a 2015 with 210k miles on it. DO NOT TAKE TO DEALER EVER. Coincidence that out of 16 vehicles bought from a dealership and maintenance done by that same dealership. This 2015 is the only one to make it over 100k. I do all the work myself. Change the oil every 3500 miles and have only used the walmart brand SuperTech 5w-30 synthetic and changed the supertech 1098 oil filter every other time. This Equinox lives happiest at 75-85mph. Bought it with 10k miles.. Three years ago.
I've only ever taken vehicles to a dealer under warranty, which was twice. Ones that are out of warranty go to a local trusted mechanic. But fluid changes and brake pads and rotors I do myself.
Had a 2014 equinox for over 3 years. Best car I've ever had. No issues.
You're one of the lucky ones. But glad to hear that.
@@timmypstyle Idk.. Alot of my coworkers and a few friends have terrain and equinox as well and none of them have been broke down either. The most I ever spent on mine in 3 years and about 80k miles was brake pads and rotors.
@@ronnie_j91 80k is still pretty low mileage. My 15 has 74k and is fine. My point is that these cars have a higher percentage of people who have issues(usually the same issues) compared to other cars. Most of the issues with the 2.4L involve oil consumption. And then in cold climates, the percentage is even higher because of the freezing PCV valve issue. But there are still plenty out there that haven't had issues yet.
@@timmypstyle I didn't say the car had 80k. I put that much on it myself. It had about 50k when I bought it. It was still running like new and not using oil or anything the last day I drove it. My friends terrain has almost 300k and it has barely had anything done to it either. I think its a 2015.
@@ronnie_j91 thats good that you guys didn't have trouble. There are a lot of people who aren't that lucky.
Bought a new 2017 Equinox. 3.5 V6. 2017 was the last year for the V6. 90,000 klics. Not one problem yet. No recalls, nothing. Change the oil twice a year. Finally needed brake pads last fall. Very reliable vehicle.
*3.6L. But yeah, the V6s are 50x better. Only issues they commonly have are timing chain issues and are usually around 100k miles. I would buy a V6 one, but the catastrophic issues are wuth the 2.4L I4 which were in them from 10-17.
Glad to hear you got a nice reliable vehicle.
These trucks are being sold everywere and people are still buying them. Theres a couple solutions you can do to avoid your main rear seal breaking. First of ac delco sells a engine breather cap that realeases crankcase pressure caused by the pcv orifise being clogged.and just use dexos oil every 3k miles and add a oil catch can as well. The oil catch can will catch all that condesation water. I bought both engine caps the ones you mentioned. I use the cmf in winter and the ac delco in summer time. No problems at all.
I have both caps also. The AC Delco one is part number FC219. Thats on mine right now. The CFM one seems like it would work better but it was making a loud rattle at idle from the ball bouncing around inside. I also bought an oil catch can but haven't installed it yet.
@@timmypstyle just like me. I also bought a hose and put it in the cmf cap and routed it towards the ground next to the radiator.
Same too bad I didn't find out until after the first winter with it.
I have a '17 2.4 Equinox with 83,000 miles Have had it since since 16k. Ive always changed the oil when the indicator says to. Was running Amsoil for a while, switched to Fram, but back to Amsoil, but using the high mileage oil. Just did an engine flush, and the second treatment of seafoam through the intake. I do have a small oil leak now, but that was prior to the engine flush. Its either the crank seal or upper oil pan seal.
Ive also been running the vented oil cap for probably 30-40k and just recently put an oil catch can on it. Besides the small oil leak, its done me great and with good oil and routine maintenance i dont see why it wouldn't keep going.
Im thinking about throwing some Lucas oil Engine Stop leak in at some point and see if that helps the leak. Probably end up changing the oil around 5k though. 3k is just too often especially if your running synthetic.
Info just for those worry type of people, the 2.4L eco tec from this generation is usually regarded as an indestructible engine IF you do your regular oil changes. Its used in rally cars and the baja 1000 often for compact engine swaps. If you have CARFAX for good oil changes this engine is amazing.
Over the years it has been shown that 3k oil changes only prolong the issue it doesn't fix the issue. THey should program the oil life % to read miles it would be a much better system.
have a Equinox, now it is at 99986. Never have or had issue. Great, replaced brake pads and muffler connectors. Winter is 26-27MPG, summer is 28-29MPG. It is the best vehicle in my house. Better than Toyota RAV4 & Mercedes GLE I have.
Glad to hear you're having a good experience with yours!
I have a 2010 Chevy equinox 2.4L 130kmiles (so far I’ve put 6kmiles on it). It will use all my oil in about 1500 miles. So I basically have to keep an eye on it and put a quart in it when low so it lasts the next 1500 before I have it changed. I didn’t realize it was an oil hog the first time I took it to get the oil changed and they said it was dry, not good. Otherwise I haven’t had any major issues 🤞🏻
Sorry to hear that. You're lucky your timing chain didn't go from the lack of oil. Just a few weeks ago someone posted about their engine making noise. Luckilyntheyvwere right next to an oil change place so they took it in and they said it was dry. He said he got an oil change done and to wish him luck. Not even kidding, he commented 45 minutes later on his post saying his engine blew going up a hill..if yours wasn't making noise yet, you might have luckily caught it just in time.
I have a 2013 GMC Terrain with 130k miles. And a 2002 Chevy Trailblazer with 310k miles. Keep using the same brand and type of oil.
DO NOT use the whatever oil from the quicky lube place, gas station, parts house, or grocery store!!!
Mine have used Cenex Maxton 5w-30 since I have owned them.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
Great information 👍🏼
I bought my 2016 Terrain brand new and it’s been nothing but good to me. I’ve had to do minor fixes here over the years as any car would need. The oil burns quicker the higher my mileage gets (112,000) as most do but my mechanic assured me that getting it changed at the 4-5k mark will do me just fine.
Glad to hear it. If you dont burn a lot of oil yet, you should be ok. The problem is when it burns too much and gets too low. Then your timing chains get damaged and your engine can blow if its too low. Seen many people getting engines replaced.
@@timmypstyle Yikes. What boggles my mind too is there was a class action for the 2010-2013 model years Equinox/Terrain for blown engines due to high oil consumption and piston ring wear… however, the 2014-2017 also burn a lot of oil and have been found with the same issues. The class action should’ve covered all of the years of this generation.
@@EyeonthePrize247 it only covered those years because the person who started it had a 13. So they went from that point back to 2010. But from 2010 to 2017, NOTHING was changed in the engines except ones that were flex fuel capable from 11-17. So a 17 is literally exactly the same as a 10. The flex fuel ones aren't made much different tho, and still have the same issues. I believe itvwas just hosrs and fuel pumps that were different to handle the effects of extra ethanol.
@@timmypstyle As much as I love my GMs and have only owned them, they are an extremely shady company.
My wife's 2015 Chevy Captiva has the same engine. It started slowly burning oil after 80K miles. Then at 115 it was drinking oil. Over a qt every 500 miles. Traded it for a RAV4. My 2015 Equinox has 88K miles now and burns just under a qt every 3K miles. I change the oil every 3K miles and it burns a little more with each oil change. So there is no hope on preserving these engines. Also, no help from Chevy. Always had Chevys but no more. Toyotas for us from now on.
Good thing I didn't buy a used one. I bought a 2021 Equinox. It has a 1.5 liter turbo 4 cylinder.
The 1.5T drives 1000% nicer than the underpowered 2.4L in old version of terrain.
Drove across 6 states with a 2.4L terrain, at 80mph that engine needs to downshift on every hill. 1.5T completely different animal with more usable torque curve, never left 6th gear at 80mph the entire drive.
I have a 2012 GMC Terrain and bought it 5 years ago with 34,000 miles on it. At 94,000 miles I had to replace the timing chains and water pump.
Thank you for sharing. Glad you have only had a few setbacks but are still driving it.
Mine has 77k on a 2014 2.4 Terrain. Have had only an issue with the nav computer at about 70k. Cost about $600. Change my own oil and filter use amsoil. Does not use any oil. Runs good. I haven’t gone to the dealer since new, except for the nav computer.
I think the steps you are taking, plus using amsoil is prolonging the oil consumption. You may not see it for quite awhile. Glad to hear it!
I literally just bought a 2.4 15' equinox 2 weeks ago with 121k miles on it and wished I seen this prior. I do live in Michigan so it will be getting cold in the winter... I'm no mechanic but I am pretty mechanically inclined and doesn't seem to have any oil leaking from the seals. However I am very surprised this thing was still running with original plugs at 121k miles.. I changed them out for OEM and went from 22 mpg city to 27-28 (I did change the VVT solenoids while I was at it) but I have a interlock device on my car so I can't take some of the connectors off to get to this pin sized hole in the intake manifold. I'll probably check out one of these products. Thanks!
No problem. Glad you don't have leaks, but defined keep an eye in your oil level. And VVT solenoids are common to fail so good idea changing them out when you got it.
I have a 2013 2.4L with roughly 166,000 miles on it. Only thing I’ve replaced is the battery and air filter everything else is original but she is starting to show her age.
I live in Michigan myself one of the worst cars I've brought had to change my timing chain twice in 9 months and changed my Engine last year which these engines are 4k and up idk why when they are so shitty but yup worst purchase I've made I'm going back to cadillac ats
@@bossg3138 oh man that sucks, ats 2.0 is actually what I was thinking of going to! Better mpg and a bit more luxury
The equinox is losing like 2 quarts of oil every 1k miles which sucks ass and no leaks so that pcv is def plugged up
I work with 2 people that drove these. They both no longer drive them.
I own a silver 2017 Chevy Equinox LT all-wheel drive with the 4-cylinder I purchased it 2 years ago with about 20, 000 miles on it it now has 57, 000 miles on it I change the oil every three thousand miles or so give or take I had one solenoid problem that I had to replace at approximately 42,000 it was causing the service engine light to come on and stalling I have to admit it hasn't been a bad vehicle but I would not do another one. Because of the issues people seem to have with these things I live in fear every time I go out to the vehicle is it going to start as there going to be a problem what's going to happen today ninety-nine percent of the time there's never a problem but I'm constantly worried about it so when the warranty runs out in September I will be trading it in and it will probably be my last GM product which is a shame because since I started driving 99% of my vehicles were GM vehicles but I can't do it anymore I fear this vehicle and there's nothing General Motors produces that I like anymore.
I have a 2016 Chevrolet Equinox 2.4 never had a issue
We just reluctantly traded in our 2011 Equinox 2.4L . we all but, cried - it was a GREAT vehicle. We never had an issues over ten year and the ride was as good as day one! .
Glad to hear yours worked out for you. As you can see in the comments, not many shared the same experience lol.
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My advise, check your oil every time you go to get in your equinox. Mine has 243000 miles and runs identically to most of the comments on this video and has the same problems. It was an economy SUV that wasn’t clearly quite designed for the average Joe. If you’ve had a few beaters before you purchased one of these then you might have learned how to maintain a high maintenance car like these
Edit: my eco button cause my car to straight up misfire when idling. I’ve replaced VVT solenoids and still does it. Don’t need it tho lol
Thank you for your comment.
I own a 2015 Terrain and the stalling is due to the soleniud. it's an easy fix that will cost you under $40.
Probably 95% of the time yes. I came across one yesterday that he replaced those along with a list of about 20 other parts including plugs and it still was stalling on him.
Literally did this last month.
@@timmypstyle If he hasn't looked at the Throttle Position Sensor yet, I'd be willing to bet that's the culprit.
Thanks for sharing this video. A big issue that I find with used American cars is how sketchy they can be. If the previous owner disregarded regular maintenance (oil and filter chnages), then you the new owner will have expensive mechanical repair problems to deal with.
American cars are more sensitive than German or Japanese cars. I had a friend change out his engine oil on his 2018 Honda Civic every 35k miles and no problems. If that kind of sluggish maintenance were done on American cars, you would’ve destroyed your engine multiple times over.
I bought a brand new 2021 Chevy Equinox and have since put 60k miles on it. No issues at all because I get the engine oil, oil filter, and the engine air filter changed out in half the time that GM recommends.
The manufacturers are in the business of selling new cars and only want to push the warranty for 3-5 years before selling you another new car again.
I have a 2017 equinox. So far it runs like a champ. As long as you take good care of them they will be one. It’s the people who don’t have the issues. Plus there will always in any make or model that have done they will have a few goofs or bad apples in a bunch.
Sincerely glad yours is doing well. But these things still have issues with proper maintenance. It's design flaw related, not necessarily maintenance related.
You are correct, evety brand has a few goofs and bad apples, but these were enough to cause 3 lawsuits on JUST the 2.4L engines, and now another lawsuit going for all of the engines in the trucks and SUVs for one if the same problems that the 2.4L is plagued with. GM has replaced bad 2.4L engines and extended warranties on the engines that are in good condition. I've seen some people say they lose a quart of oil after driving only about 100 miles.
Again, sincerely glad that yours is doing well. But they are far from being a reliable engine.
I've belonged to impala/monte carlo groups for 6 years, ram groups for 10, challenger/charger groups for 6, and f150 groups for 10 years and even an f150 forum for 17 years. In the 6 months time that I owned my equinox, I've even more comments and posts about the same issues on these than I've seen in all the groups on all the common issues of all the other vehicles COMBINED. More in 7 months in equinox groups than 6 to 17 YEARS of all the others.
Also the new truck/suv lawsuit is for all V8 engines offered for the past 12 years or so. Same oil consumption issues that the 2.4L had 3 lawsuits over.
I have 2012 the pcv valve froze and blew the rear main seal and almost lost the motor. It ate 3 quarts of oil every 1500 miles. First the lifters went then the oil pump then the bottom end. A new remanufactured motor is 3k
Get that FC219 oil cap. Its not a guarantee but it can be a 2nd line of defense for the PCV valve. Costs $15 ordered thru autozone.
I own a 2017 Chevy Equinox LT 2.4 Liter vehicle. The oil I use for mine is Liqui Moly. I also have a K&N filter in mine factory standards not the cone version and I have E3 Sparkplugs. I've had not 1 not 1 issue at all since I've done that. I check my oil regularly and I don't skip a beat on none. Not even when mine is in Eco mode. I get about 45 mpg in the city and 55 mpg on the interstate. The reason why I use the K&N filter is because it keeps my engine cool and my fuel doesn't consume so quick. I could drive mine from Virginia to SC/GA line and than I'd have to stop for gas only once before getting to Jacksonville FL. With the E3 sparkplugs I'd use Octane 91+ for those. Now I can pick up speed on the interstate from 0-60 in 4.5 seconds no lie ill do a video one day to show yall. No internal problems at all. And my engine has been successful very well. Oh and guys if you have those vehicles the best way to pick up speed is to use the M gears. Dont worry the transmission is Dual so once u get to where u need to be u can shift it back into drive with no issues. Using the M gears to get on the Interstate drop it 2 gears down. So if your in 4th gear drop it down to 2nd gear and up it to 5 once your past 45 mph. It's considered as quickshift. If you have no experience in driving standard do not attempt to use this. If you do you'll understand what I mean
If you aren't joking, since this has to be a joke, I dont think the comment section will let me use the amount of facepalm emojis that I want to use for your comment since it is just plain wrong and full of bullshit lol
@@timmypstyle Like I said I'll post a video up one day and show you better than I can tell you.
@@crockpot5194 claiming 0-60 in 4.5 seconds in a 182hp 172lb-ft vehicle weighing over 4000lbs is BS when a camaro SS is barely quicker than that with double the power and less weight.
A k&n filter won't cool off your engine and might change the intake temperatures by a couple degrees which means no increase in power. E3 spark plugs were aimed for economy, not performance, and have so far been proven to not do a damn thing.
Getting 45mpg in the city(over double the rating) and 55mpgs on the highway(almost double the rating) is also BS. Even with the best oil in the world, you won't increase your performance by more than a few horsepower. I have owned 15 vehicles including muscle cars, and none have done 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Especially when I used to have a 200hp monte carlo SS which did 0-60 in 8.5 and currently own a 242hp monte carlo that does 0-60 in 7.0. On top of that, I have had a near 460hp ram and currently own a 15 challenger R/T which weighs the same as the equinox and has more than double the power and torque that the equinox has, and it does 0-60 in 5.0. There is no way you're doing 0-60 in 4.5 seconds unless you have a lot of mods including a form of boost.
As for the manual mode, it isn't made to be used as a sport shifter. Its there to hold gears longer fir going up hills or towing. Its not meant to be used every day or for performance. For instance if you were going up a hill, you could manually shift the transmission so you can go up the hill gradually in a lower without flooring it, and that makes it easier on the engine.
I have also had k&n filters in 9 vehicles and k&n intakes on 4. Some added a few mpgs but it won't double your gas mileage. I also currently have a k&n filter in my equinox like you do, along with my 06 monte carlo and 15 challenger both having one. They might add 1 or 2 horsepower. Nothing you do to your equinox will get you 55mpgs except driving downhill and nothing will get you to do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds unless you add a turbo or supercharger, which both would require supporting mods. Even the 3.6L V6 with over 260hp won't do it close to that quick.
I have a 2017 Equinox with 41000 miles on it and I love it so far..I use full sy their oil in my 2.4 engine my biggest complaint,would be my Michelin tires are already dry rot cracking along the rims.i made a claim with Michelin,and they will give me 50.00 off per tire on a set of new tires. Clay
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I do love my 15 so far but I still only have 74k miles and use quality oil. You are also using full synthetic so your oil consumption may not appear for a bit longer. Usually closer to 100k is when most of them start consuming oil but there definitely have been plenty that have started way before that.
Just had my 2016. Chevy equinox in..new pcv system, part of manifold, new water pump and fuel pump. Before that timming chain and muti belts. ALWAYS ISSUE WITH OIL. drove it off the lot new. Took 5 year loan. Id just like to have a vehicle that lasts the time of the loan guess too much to ask for
I have a 2016 with 80K. Only issue i've had was with the Infotainment/Radio. Totally went blank for months. Then came back on right when I was getting ready to cough up $2k to repair it. Thankful I didn't have to spend that money. Seemed like a shortage/disconnect of some sort.
I havebseen dome people complain about the same issue. Some had to replace theirs and some started working again like yours. Glad to hear yours is still doing well!
mines did this first day i got it it was all black for a hour never did again
I had a 2010 model and my timing chain went out. Then a one year later my engine blew out. This was the worst purchase I ever made in a vehicle.
THank you for posting this Video, wish this was a warning a couple years back, our 2012 has been a nightmare, pretty car, but just a junker! we have spent around 4,000. with about 6 shop visits. ours is the 6, and i wont buy another chevy. i should have stuck with my toyota 4runner.
My 2012 LTZ blew front main seal twice due to crank case ventilation issues. We had a service bulletin in hand showing that the car was within the stated year, mileage, and engine type for the warranty fix. Dealer wouldn't honor it because they said any warranty work Is VIN # specific. Our car had all the signs and symptoms, but since our VIN# didn't show up on "global connect" we were S.O.L
If you still have it, get an FC219 oil cap ($15) or the CFM oil cap($80). That can save your seals but both are not guaranteed fixes.
@@timmypstyle will definitely look into it, thanks a bunch
@@brianwilson8119 no problem. I bought both.
Only problem I had with mines it’s a 2013 is I had to change my flex pipe 3 times in one year😂
go have the recall for the o2 and cats done the motor mounts in these move alot even if new
I bought a 2013 equinox earlier this year. 3 days after buying, engine light came on . P0014 exhaust camshaft code. Dealership tried to fix the problem. Put a timing chain in it. Code came back. The replaced all timing sensors. Code came back. Replaced ECM. Code came back. After 4 weeks of equinox in the shop the dealership bought it back from me because they couldn’t fix it. Do not buy an equinox!
I am having the same problem with my 2013 equinox
Where do I find the Class Action lawsuit info on 2010 2.4engine models? Drinks oil! I bought mine used from a Chevrolet dealer and it had oil consumption problems when I bought it and they had not even serviced it AT ALL. The Freon was empty so they had been messing with it. Air works fine. Rocker panels rusted totally out within 6 months. But this car runs awesome in the snowstorms of WV and Ohio! Love the heated seats and leather package and sunroof.
The class action lawsuit happened years ago. As far as I know, they haven't been paying out for a few years.
@@timmypstyle wonderful.
I'm definitely having this problem on my 2011 Equinox. Added an oil catch can and cleaned out that pin hole but still burning oil.
Yeah definitely piston rings then. My suggestion is trade it in asap if you can.
The water pumps on these engines are pain to replace
My 2015 has been fine, just has no get up.. tough to get going on the interstate
They are pretty slow but I dont have much issues getting on the interstate. 0-60 on these is about 9.5 seconds which was the same as my dad's old 94 V8 crown victoria.
I own a 2012 Chevy equinox 2.4L ole “Lillian” has over 130,000 miles on her and other than routine maintenance and a few sensors wearing out over time that had to be replaced, I had no problems mechanical or otherwise
Glad to hear it! Keep doing what you're doing with it.
The problem I'm having with my 2013 equinox is the timing chain just went out at 145k miles. Not only that it's not loosing power every time while driving it. It goes for awhile & than wants to die & lose power. A friend said now it's the catalyst converter. Spence $2,300 timing chain & $500-600 catalyst
I just bought a 2010 equinox take care of your car
like a human it will last a good while I love my equinox
These are different. Normal cars, yes normal maintenance and TLC will help keep it running. These have flaws in the design that fail and cause issues and some of those issues lead to the engine blowing.
I sincerely hope yours works out for you, but I suggest watching my part 1 and 2 videos. I point out all of the design flaws and common issues for 2 reasons. 1, to let people who are looking at these cars know of the issues so they can at least buy knowing the issues or don't buy, and 2, to teach owners of these cars how they can try to keep theirs running well.
The main problem with these engines was bad piston rings which caused the engine to use oil. The lack of oil leads to the timing chain problems. If you catch it i n time you may be ok. But really you can't expect too much from a 2.4l 4 cyl engine in a 3800 lbs vehicle plus passengers.
I have all the info on the piston and ring issues and recall. And literally a guy posted yesterday in a group about his stabilitrak, and his low oil light coming on. He was right next to a valvoline center snd got his oil changed. They told him it was low before they changed it. 1 hour later he commented saying his engine blew while going up a hill.
@@timmypstyle yeah I got the notice years ago but it's expired now. I'm doing the timing chain and phasers next week my self. One the cylinders is at 180 so the engine will never be optimal. I'm just hoping to keep it for a couple more years just topping up the oil.
@@garmin1488 i sold mine before it gave me issues. Saw too many people having the same issues as each other and figured it was just a matter of time. The market is great right now for selling cars. But its not so great if you are buying or trading in.
What about a cracked exhaust manifold? It happened to my neighbor's 2012, and it is a very common failure with this model.
Yes it is. At the time I made the videos, I wasn't aware of that issue yet. I'll have to make a 3rd video as I also found out that the eco button has been linked to the oil consumption starting earlier.
I have a 2016 Chevy Equinox LT. I haven't had any problems. Very good SUV.
They are all good until they randomly blow their engine. Just came across a 17 with 45,000 miles that they blew their engine. They can't afford a new engine or a new car because they still owe $17,000 on it. MANY people have these things sitting in their driveway unable to repair them because they owe so much on them. A new engine is $8,000.
@@timmypstyle Can you say warranty or aka Junkyard?
@@shaunhunter7474 junkyard engines will likely do the same thing in time. They are all bad. Even a lot of engines that were replaced under warranty or the lawsuit are having issues. Ive seen multiple people who are having issues with their second engine and even a few having issues with their 3rd engine. And warranty is up on almost every 2.4L now since almost all of them are past the 5 year powertrain warranty cutoff. Maybe a few thousand 2017s that were built later or bought later in the year that still have a warranty. But im betting by this time in 2017, the 18s were just starting to be built and they had all new powertrains.
@@timmypstyle When I say warranty it mean to have a (Lifetime warranty on it.) Or if I can't afford it then I will go to the junkyard. Keep in mind that not all junk yard engine is junk.
@@shaunhunter7474 Bud...I see people posting about these things blowing every single day. And my buddy(mechanic) was tearing one apart a few weeks ago that didn't even have 90k on it. Doesn't matter where you get the 2.4L, its junk. Like I said, even people who got BRAND NEW 2.4s put in their cars are burning oil after 50k miles. Multiple bad designs within the engine, no low oil level light or message, they drink oil, the high pressure fuel pump pushes gas past the piston rings so that the gas dilutes your oil and ruins the lubrication properties, etc.
I changed my oil and my oil level went UP every time I checked it. Meaning more gas was being pushed into the oil than oil getting combusted.
The LEA and LAF 2.4L are junk. The only ones that aren't junk are the jasper engines that people are getting to replace the GM ones.
Owned a 2010 Equinox for 3 years. Only issues I've had was vvt selonoids needed replacing, abd light and stabilitrak