Building a Socket 775 Windows 98 SE Retro Gaming PC

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  • @TheGoodOldGamer
    @TheGoodOldGamer Před 5 lety +54

    Phil you're single handedly keeping Win98 Retro Gaming alive Buddy! Keep it up man.

  • @vicchopin
    @vicchopin Před 5 lety +60

    Everytime Phil says Socket 775 a retro pc is born ;)

  • @nrg753
    @nrg753 Před 5 lety +77

    SSD... Celeron 420... Unusual OS for the hardware. Sounding almost druaga1. Liked :)

    • @koodeus6170
      @koodeus6170 Před 5 lety +21

      needs a casio watch and BenQ monitor for true druaga compatibility fellow smoker

    • @retroftw
      @retroftw Před 5 lety +5

      But not "druaga2", cause he built the Windows 98 machine with unopened period correct parts :-P
      czcams.com/users/AkBKukU

    • @davidmussin6872
      @davidmussin6872 Před 5 lety +2

      He needs to pair it to a GT 420

    • @JohnSmith-iu8cj
      @JohnSmith-iu8cj Před 4 lety +2

      Hello Smokers

  • @nojoojuu
    @nojoojuu Před 5 lety +3

    Oh man, that old game footage! Takes many of us back in time when gaming was fun and PC hardware/software had huge issues. Now it's the other way around. Thanks! Keep'em coming!

  • @ScanlineCity
    @ScanlineCity Před 5 lety +8

    Way ahead of the curve Phil. I certainly think this will become very important in the near future. Prices right now are cheap for socket 775 and you can build not only a great XP PC but obviously as you demonstrate a windows 98 dos PC. As you have said in other videos this is also exactly why late pci graphics cards will become super relevant.

  • @runningat50hz
    @runningat50hz Před 5 lety +26

    My retro PC has a 775 socket, running a Pentium D 945, and it works flawlessly with windows98 (once you get all the drivers running). I even scored a CT4810 sound card, so I have audio on native DOS and it works great in both Doom amd Quake. Socket 775 can be clnsidered overkill for win98, but what's the loss? You have a lot of room to spare, and if you feel like you're not using all the hardware to its fullest, just dual-boot with winxp, xp64 or 7 and enjoy!

  • @rdxdt
    @rdxdt Před 5 lety +6

    Now thats a build that make sense, cheap and reliable. Nice work Phil

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra Před 5 lety +5

    3:05 A Sound Blaster Live! That's what I had in my PIII build back in the day. Not surprising I guess, since those were so common, but oh, the memories.

  • @tracywilliams1853
    @tracywilliams1853 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice project!!! Your channel deserves a lot more subs dude. Keep at it. 👍

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita Před 5 lety +7

    Excellent video Phil! Kinda funny that 'low power' 35W TDP from ~ 2006-2007 was max. power for Pentium 3-era Win98 PCs..

  • @DeadlyGamingLV
    @DeadlyGamingLV Před 5 lety +1

    If you have a Sound Blaster Live CT4620 or a SB0060 then getting DOS sound and OPL3/FM music is no problem. I have a SB Live CT4620 in my socket 775 build using that Asrock board you did a video on last June. Windows 98 SE is installed on a 128GB SD card and it performs really well. I may do some more socket 775 builds in the future but I am pretty content with what I have now. I can't thank you enough for all the awesome videos you do Phil. It's so much appreciated.

  • @lmcgregoruk
    @lmcgregoruk Před 5 lety +13

    I saw this video, and was thinking, wait didn't he already do this, but no, I was thinking of the Core 2 Quad video.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety +3

      Yea I did mention in that video that I will follow with more sensible and suitable parts :)

  • @andylynn7884
    @andylynn7884 Před 5 lety +2

    Ah, takes me back 20 years when you had all those.irq polling errors and had to find workarounds to frustrating driver issues! The glory days!

  • @HeyImGaminOverHere
    @HeyImGaminOverHere Před 5 lety +1

    Motherboard layout is always the thing I stressed over. Not every board with the right layout is good and very few good boards have the right layout often times. This is in my experience anyways. Fantastic video Phil! I may try this out sometime! 😀

  • @ajs2120
    @ajs2120 Před 5 lety +1

    This is a good video, something I've actually been considering doing. Simply just because the components are alot less than the proper retro stuff. Definitely considering a 98 machine now.

  • @wettuga2762
    @wettuga2762 Před 5 lety +3

    Darn you...
    Before watching your videos - all computer junk was nicely tucked away in the attic
    After watching some videos - computer parts spread all over the attic floor and table
    After watching some more videos - built 3 retro machines triple-booting MS-DOS/winME/WinXP
    After watching even more videos - found a micro-atx board for my arcade machine which was collecting dust due to missing parts
    Current situation - Unboxed old consoles, placed a few shelfs, unwrapped an old couch and now my attic has turned into a retro gaming den / 2nd living room!!
    Yes, that's all YOUR fault! Quake LAN on E1M7? Yes, please! Starcraft co-op? Awesome!

  • @tassoss13
    @tassoss13 Před 5 lety +17

    I was watching the video with motherboard you used

  • @HH-fs5hl
    @HH-fs5hl Před 5 lety +4

    Funny im building a 775 system at the very moment casually on a friday nice coincedence so much cpus to choose from i have a bunch this video boosts my intention to go for a quake dos win xp gaming setup :)

  • @mdrumt
    @mdrumt Před 5 lety

    Great content as always Phil 🙂

  • @kami4542
    @kami4542 Před 5 lety +19

    As always really nice video dude :) you were totally right about the fact that 775 boards are the ones to get because they are still really cheap. Now thanks to you, most people know that even PCIe ones can be used for Win98 :)
    Btw, what is/was your favorite platform ? Judging by watching your videos I guess Super Socket 7 or Socket 478 right or wrong ? :p

    • @Lady_Zenith
      @Lady_Zenith Před 5 lety +3

      Yes but only for windows, as you can see the 16-bit DOS SB emulation is not working, its always better to get I865 based board where everything retro wise works.

  • @directionlessstudios7210
    @directionlessstudios7210 Před 5 lety +1

    Nice build!

  • @ksp1278
    @ksp1278 Před 4 lety

    I am hugely grateful to you for posting this video. Based on your recommendation, I bought a socket 775 Pentium 4 3.06ghz with Gigabyte motherboard and 2Gb RAM for only £20 delivered from ebay. I removed 1 RAM stick to leave 1Gb and win98 installed perfectly. Its Intel 915P chipset. However, to be safe I have ordered a pair of 256mb DDR2 DIMMS for £2 delivered, as I believe over 512mb can be problematic for some software.

  • @sburton015
    @sburton015 Před 5 lety +2

    I did a PC experiment where I had this older desktop with an AMD Athlon 64 x2 and for very cheap, found me a Phenom X4 9650 and when I first installed it, it didn't post, then I saw that I needed to update the bios, so after doing that, it seems to work fine with the quad core phenom and a gtx 285.

  • @CougarCat21
    @CougarCat21 Před 3 lety

    I have a socket 939 motherboard with an AGP slot with a AGP Radeon 9800 pro GPU. Nice video. I still love socket 775 stuffs.

  • @badrolix
    @badrolix Před 3 lety +1

    Phil, you are the best !!! Once again, asking a question about the next retro configuration, I find the answers in your videos. And it's just a great pleasure to watch your videos. Unfortunately, for some reason, your site "PhilsComputerLab" does not open from the territory of Russia, and I had to look for your collection of benches on third-party resources. Thanks for your work! Your subscriber is from Russia.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 3 lety +1

      I'm using Weebly for the site and it seems to not work with some countries. Not sure why...

  • @Dxceor2486
    @Dxceor2486 Před 5 lety +1

    Some socket 775 can have really good windows 98 support as well as c2d support !
    I have a GA-VM900M (via P4M900 chipset) and everything works (igp, network, USB ...) except the sound. So that makes it a good uATX mobile as many things you'd add with an expansion card is already working. I'm planning to install a PCI-e GeForce in order to get faster video performance and a PCI sound card

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix Před 4 lety

    Im having fun with win98se on a skt939 system atm, (MSI Neo2 platinum motherboard) i love 98 think i always will, 95 was where it begun for me even win 3.11 can do some amazing stuff.

  • @oldgamersunite2486
    @oldgamersunite2486 Před 5 lety

    Great project! I am very interested in getting a working DOS PCI sound card too. Hopefully with one of those easy to get Creative Labs ones.

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek Před 5 lety +1

    These G31 boards are dirt cheap, and so are low-end 775 CPUs. The hardest part is finding a cheap cooler, especially if you get an old Northwood or Prescott CPU. I got a couple of old machines for free that my mate was going to throw out, and I've been playing with windows 98 as well as linux on the G31 chipset one. I also got a 965 chipset board, but I wanted to play around with more modern CPUs, so I went with the G31. Lots of fun!

  • @keithbeesting
    @keithbeesting Před 5 lety +1

    Great video Phil I own the same graphics card I had no idea you could use a glide wrapper for 3DFX games.

  • @jayantsudhakar4600
    @jayantsudhakar4600 Před 3 lety

    Keep up the good work.

  • @PrzeszczepiX
    @PrzeszczepiX Před 5 lety +1

    hey Phil! awesome video as always. :)
    can you help me a bit? i have a question: which PCI-e graphics card will be the best for Windows 98 SE?

  • @bdwilcox
    @bdwilcox Před 5 lety +2

    You really need to invest in some 90 and 270 degree right angle SATA cables (on one, the little orientation notch points toward the cable while on the other it points away from the cable). This will generally allow you to use SATA ports that fall under cards and the total investment will only be a few dollars.

  • @Lothairecliquennois
    @Lothairecliquennois Před 5 lety +4

    Dang, still a really good retro computing video creator, Phil, please keep it up as is, your videos have a heck of a charm behind them, that might be difficult for you to see.

  • @itnaklipse1669
    @itnaklipse1669 Před 3 lety

    Ever since i saw them advertized in a magazine i wanted Asrock MB cause they look so cool... maybe one of these days!

  • @eduardoavila646
    @eduardoavila646 Před 5 lety +17

    I would go for a older board with a sis or via chipset wich supports up to something like a e6400, but would have more win98 support maybe even for onboard audio, video and ethernet.
    Then get that celeron 420 or a c2d, and a soundblaster live.
    These earlier 775 boards also are cheaper than intel chipset based ones, at least where i live.
    Maybe something in a level of a asus p5vd2, or a pcchips p23g (eve tho i dont trust much pcchips after having cap issues in a p23g).

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Před 5 lety

      I still use a p5vd2 vm here.
      Do you know if theres any way to force the VIA chipset to use 4gb ram?

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 Před 5 lety

      @@SummonerArthur It should work out of the box. Are you sure both ram sticks are working and really are 2gb each?
      I would advise a clear cmos and if that dont solve a bios update.
      Mine just recognizes fine. Mine is the mx variant, but according to asus website both the mx and vm variants work fine up to 4gb of 800mhz ram.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Před 5 lety

      @@eduardoavila646 I'm using 2x2gb ddr2 ram (wich I'm 100% sure that works fine) and there's 64 mb for the igpu (VIA Chrome 9).
      But it only shows as 3.7 as useable while I'm using a 64 bit os (dual boot xp and 7) no matter what processor I use.
      And this 256 mb (i think it was more than 256mb, but i cant remember exactly) isnt being dedicated to anything because if I remove any of the sticks it will say that 2gb are installed and 2gb is useable.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Před 5 lety

      @@eduardoavila646 also, BIOS is in its latest update.

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 Před 5 lety +3

      @@SummonerArthur This is kinda normal, its a windows issue. It may happen even on 32 bit windows. It happens because the way windows allocates ram, at least to what i know.
      My laptop has 8gb of ram, but only 7.45gb usable,
      My netbook had 2gb but only 1.8 usable.
      Try to see if a linux usb thumbdrive recogizes all the 4gb of ram, possibly its windoss fault, not your chipset nor board

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal Před 5 lety +3

    Hey. Socket 775 is the best option for this year! Easily available, solid, reliable and has great compatibility. We could compare S775 to Windows XP in term of longevity. Both of them been used not the same time, but for quiet long time by me. So yes, I highly recommend Socket 775 to build your retro pc, It will last and support wide range of early to mid 3D games as well as DOS. My very first attemp of checking new company ASROCK was ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2, it was something completely new to me and I was possitively surprised with Asrock products. Other Socket775 manufacturers I would recommend will be Gigabyte. I wish Socket 775 had better socket design, tiny pins are sensitive and susceptible to damage, so be careful when building your own. I had lesson fixing pins on ABIT LG-95C. Good video as always Phil, my day was worth entering youtube today.

    • @maxgoodman9239
      @maxgoodman9239 Před 5 lety

      PROSTO4Tabal for me 775 is better for win7 or vista and duron/athlon xp processor for win98/win xp

    • @PROSTO4Tabal
      @PROSTO4Tabal Před 5 lety

      @@maxgoodman9239 I didn't mean xp+775, but early 775 will be good for xp and later good for win7, I didn't switch to Win10 and still use Win7 x64 which cover my all needs flawlessly

  • @jonathanellis6097
    @jonathanellis6097 Před 5 lety +1

    I built a dirt cheep pc with this motherboard, must be like 10 years ago now, it's got a q6600 in it, and is still in daily use by my sister, with windows 10, just for shopping Netflix CZcams etc, never given even a hint of a problem!

  • @TheSynrgy1987
    @TheSynrgy1987 Před 5 lety +1

    A PCI sound card worth looking at is one based on the ForteMedia FM801-AU chip, not perfect but work in DOS with no heavy memory hogging drivers, some down sides like being limited to SB Pro emulation and no real mixer control at least that I've found)

  • @dariopetrusic4215
    @dariopetrusic4215 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi Phil! Can I ask you what device you use to capture/record videos from 5:4 and 4:3 aspect ratio resolutions?

  • @dieterhrabak4947
    @dieterhrabak4947 Před 5 lety

    another use that i find to be fascinating at least for me, is that with such retro PC, could be a perfect for installing oldie but goldie OS, such OS/2 or something else..

  • @maxgoodman9239
    @maxgoodman9239 Před 5 lety +2

    I build millenium pc with win me,athlon 1200 and radeon 7500 agp card. is this a good choice?

  • @georgemaragos2378
    @georgemaragos2378 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi All, nice video
    Hmm you forgot the key phrase, " If it has a BIOS we will flash it" , you changed it a bit this time.
    With mother board purchases, i check ebay, and get the make and model number, then open a tab to the motherboard manufacturer and paste in the model and see if they have 95/98/XP drivers before i decide to purchase a motherboard - unless it cleary has the OEM cdrom and states on the cdrom win98 drivers etc
    Sometimes, you can go by the date of the board or the spec sheet, if you are lucky you can use no drivers other than win98 stock
    I always use WIn 98 SE as it is the latest and supports more "newer" hardware and runs OK with USB2 with some update - use the separate add on card with NEC usb chips !!!
    For me it is the 512k limit, often with 2G it will install and after the reboot you get the memory failure ( actually says to low on memory ) and i find it to hard to set it to run in safe mode or what it takes to apply the large memory mods / patch
    BTW with command an conquer, you can highlight people / units / trucks etc and press Control and any number between 1 and 9 , this groups them together, then in game simply press the number pad and those people / cars ( still alive ) are active and you can position them,. good to place all minigunners together, or tanks , jeeps, helicopters, dogs , spy - btw for people, use a mixture of mini gunner , grenaders and rockets guys as lookouts and also they can defend long - medium - short range
    Also perfect for retreat or getting all vehicles or helicopters to one site ( planes and helicopters to refuel , cars to go to a location and the mobile mechanic on a different number to repair them ), also when you attack a base, you can have siferent personel on say N-S-E-W locations
    Regards
    George

  • @reiza97
    @reiza97 Před 5 lety +11

    Hey Phil, I think some old PCIe Graphics Card have a Windows 98 Drivers which is the latest on GeForce 6 and ATi Radeon X850

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety +6

      Something for a future project :D

    • @retroftw
      @retroftw Před 5 lety +5

      @@philscomputerlab Windows 98 PCIe drivers for Nvidia GeForce 6/7 and 8 cards!
      msfn.org/board/topic/97786-geforce-67-and-8-agppci-e-driver-edition-for-win98me-by-zak/

  • @utubeuser1024
    @utubeuser1024 Před 2 lety

    Hi Phil, long time viewer and subscriber of your channel - really love your work and advice - it's been inspirational! I just wanted to ask where you got the Gotek drive with the USB port on the back around 5:16 in the video? Can you post a link to it? Thanks!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 2 lety

      I don't have a link, but what I do is just scroll for a while (run a search on GOTEK USB) and you should find one. There aren't many listings, so you might need to search a while. Look on eBay, Amazon and AliExpress!

  • @AlejandroRodolfoMendez

    I think that the blue screen is because w98 tries the disable devices even if the bios says disable because sometimes there were jumpers on the audio device that ignore the bios.

  • @LEGENDGAMINGGGG
    @LEGENDGAMINGGGG Před 5 lety +2

    i remember when i had a p3 based system and gta vc can run on it properly on xp so i use windows 98 to play smoothly on igpu

  • @karankaul9234
    @karankaul9234 Před 5 lety +1

    I have got an old pentium 4 and an asus p5gcmx Motherboard... With no gpu....1.5 gigs ddr2 ram... What can i use it for

  • @Gooberslot
    @Gooberslot Před 5 lety

    Have you ever tried a SATA to IDE adapter? I was wondering if those might be a good solution for motherboards that don't have SATA ports or VIA boards where the ports only work with SATA 1 drives.

  • @pablodelafuente872
    @pablodelafuente872 Před měsícem

    my old pc have the same motherboard. good times :)

  • @mr_beezlebub3985
    @mr_beezlebub3985 Před 5 lety +1

    Are you gonna do anything related to Linux soon? It would be cool to see what you could do :)

  • @boomwithpeter623
    @boomwithpeter623 Před 5 lety

    Hey there, i recommend you try a retro gaming pc using debian distros like ubuntu mate and linux mint, i think this can be a good project since you can play your old games and use a secure system that can access the internet

  • @Zerotwo-ks8rg
    @Zerotwo-ks8rg Před 4 lety +1

    Is it ok if I got a 945 chipset in my 775 motherboard?

  • @ChrisR3tro
    @ChrisR3tro Před 5 lety

    Hey Phil, would you tell us the model of your SATA optical drive with audio out?

  • @masprassaja3818
    @masprassaja3818 Před 5 lety +1

    even with 775 with core 2 quad still strong enough for pc gaming build for now. :D

  • @bigal115
    @bigal115 Před 4 lety

    Hi Phil, I have used the same motherboard but I am tempted to try tge older pcie graphics cards would that be a good idea?

  • @badorastrome5418
    @badorastrome5418 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you you remainded me of old game I used to play back day but did not save it name in my memory
    Starwars !! where can I find this game now

  • @ksp1278
    @ksp1278 Před 4 lety

    I purchased one of these fx cards for my Pentium 4. It works fine at 800x600. Maybe I was a little unrealistic in my expectations, but I was hoping to use this to play at 1600x1200. However the performance of this card just was not up to it in the couple of games I tested (Star Trek Elite Force, Colin McRae Rally 2.0 and Motorhead). I have now ordered a PCI-e Quadro FX 1300 in the hopes that will be better, but I am expecting compatability issues with Win98 and PCIe! Have you done any videos with Win98 and PCIe? My motherboard does not have AGP

  • @airmicrobe
    @airmicrobe Před 4 lety

    I'll watch this later but this title is why I bought another 478 socket mother board 8 US dallor. Because HP d530 is my most invaluable board to run win 98 or dos. So I think this board someday will stop working . I don't have any pci vga card however alot of agp cards. So this another board will save my life time. D530 of course still works fine. See you^^

  • @retropcscotland4645
    @retropcscotland4645 Před 5 lety

    I got a Intel Celeron 440 2Ghz LGA775 for 25p may use it. Finally found a use for a celly.

  • @ThomasTheLord
    @ThomasTheLord Před 4 lety +1

    Phil, love your videos man, watch them every time. I have a question: I`ve got a P4 3.2 HT (the first processor I bought) and really wanted to use it on a Windows 98 sistem. Can you present me some motherboard model that can disable the HT and lower the clock so I can use it with Win98?
    Tnx man!

    • @AIM9XSW
      @AIM9XSW Před 4 lety +1

      In my experience, you don't need to disable HT. Even when enabled, Windows 98 will not use it. I can confirm this with an ASRock 775i65G motherboard and a Pentium 4 520 (2.8 GHz) with the Prescott Core, with HT enabled. I actually have two of these machines and dual boot them both with Windows 98SE and Windows XP (I do have to disable the USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller Interface in Windows 98SE, though). The 775i65G offers a lot of options. If interested in the 775i65G, Phil has done a separate review on that board, and I would estimate that most motherboards using the Intel 865 chipset would work great. For MS-DOS games running inside of Win98SE, I find that a freeware app called "MySlow" works really well, but its settings will vary quite a bit between games. For example, if I try to run SW: Dark Forces, I use MySlow to allow me to run with the "General MIDI" music option.

    • @ThomasTheLord
      @ThomasTheLord Před 4 lety

      @@AIM9XSW Wow, tnx for the response man. Gonna give it a look!

  • @leokaiser264
    @leokaiser264 Před 4 lety +1

    hey, I got this same motherboard and cpu setup too. after installing windows 98, my cd-rom isn't showing up My Computer. What happened?

  • @thepuzzlemaster64
    @thepuzzlemaster64 Před 5 lety

    Man, what timing! I was planning on building a micro ATX Win 98 machine, and this came at a really good time. Couple questions though:
    • Would a Pentium 4 or Pentium 4 Extreme be too overkill for Windows 98?
    • Is it necessary to disable the onboard video and audio? (in case you don't have either a sound, or video card)
    • Where do you find your driver for these motherboards and cards?
    • When playing DOS games, is it better to play them through DOS, or does it not make a difference when playing them through Win 9X?

    • @armorgeddon
      @armorgeddon Před 5 lety

      About the last question: Playing in DOS is better. Playing DOS games through Win 9x might resullt in graphical glitches (Destruction Derby for example), loss of performance, sound issues, controller issues.

  • @xan1242
    @xan1242 Před 5 lety +1

    Not sure about Unreal + nGlide, I think the D3D or the Unreal 227 OpenGL renderer would be a bit better.

  • @bytemaniak8328
    @bytemaniak8328 Před 5 lety +1

    I've been looking for an affordable Win98/DOS gaming PC for quite a while and this sounds like a great alternative. How would this run DOS games? I know some of them will run way too fast but slomo can fix that. How about the SB16 emulation?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety +1

      I do not recommend this if you are keen on DOS! Check out my Socket A builds, they work brilliant with DOS, but you do need specific PCI sound cards.

  • @SneakiestDuke68
    @SneakiestDuke68 Před 5 lety

    Are you have Need for Speed II Special Edition ?

  • @Alex4SiliconValley
    @Alex4SiliconValley Před 5 lety

    What is a good led display for old dos game play with vga input 640 resolution support ?

  • @dannycoy5775
    @dannycoy5775 Před 5 lety

    This is a great video. I am currently working on a 775 windows 98 pc. Does your Motherboard support core disable? I want to be able to switch between xp games with multiple cores and then maybe disable some cores for windows 98. I have it set up with a q9650 right now and cache disabled for windows 98. Have not tested xp yet.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      I don't think this one did, so that's why I chose a single core CPU. The Celeron 420 is dirt cheap :)

  • @zulwabule
    @zulwabule Před 8 měsíci

    wow that amazing!! i almost to purchase expensive used slot 370 mainboard just want to playing win 98 era games, so any 775 board model can install windows 98?

  • @greygoose3936
    @greygoose3936 Před 3 lety

    Is there something like snappy driver installer that works in windows 98? I know that snappy only supports up to Windows 2k and XP.

  • @romanm.4763
    @romanm.4763 Před 5 lety +1

    mATX mainboards, based on i945gz chipset, usually have 3 pci slots and support Celeron 420 - 440 Conroe-L. Also they might be cheaper. Asrock had 2 such models. G31 would be good for PC with quad core CPU. But I understand you have G31 at hand and make the interesting video.

    • @xxxxxx-ef7ni
      @xxxxxx-ef7ni Před 5 lety

      better use xeons for this motherboard

  • @randomreviews9016
    @randomreviews9016 Před 5 lety

    No Bump Mapping on the Fx5500 with Expendables ? :(

  • @GiSWiG
    @GiSWiG Před 5 lety

    How's the FX 5500 with glide compare to your videos using FX Ultras and Quadro FX 3000s with glide? The price to performance ration of the FX 5500 seems like it could be a more attractive option.
    I totally agree going full ATX. You could add an Aureal Vortex2 card and add A3D and some DOS gaming capability.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      Well this one is PCI, so a lot weaker. The faster FX outperformed a Voodoo 5 using nGlide.

  • @repercussaonula8565
    @repercussaonula8565 Před 5 lety +1

    Build a LGA 1155 retro (not too retro because the motherboard is from early 2011) gaming PC with Windows 98 or XP installed and test Quake 2 and Unreal on it.

  • @ashleyjwilliamshand
    @ashleyjwilliamshand Před 2 lety

    Would love to see a E8600, PCI fx5500 GPU (without and with GPU overclock), SSD, 512 x 2 ram duel channel (rloew). To see what the pci fx5500 can do with zero CPU bottleneck and all that available cache.
    A "3 years later" build revisit after the GPU overclock issue was figured out in the comments.

  • @wayneholzer4694
    @wayneholzer4694 Před 2 lety

    I have a Celeron D'isaster lga775 chip 3.06Ghz chip laying around and was toying with the idea of seeing if I could install Win98 SE I wonder if it will play nicely with Win98 it has a IDE DVD burner in it but the motherboard I need to recap it runs I have tonnes of 1gb sticks of ddr 1 ram laying around the IDE HDD died but it does have sata.

  • @DanyLek88
    @DanyLek88 Před 3 lety

    @PhilsComputerLab So i have this mobo with an e 8400 Core 2 Duo + 4gb ddr2 @800Mhz and i m wondering if i can use a 6700xl or a 6600 pcie GeForce Cards for Win98SE . Any answer i would apreciate , cause i wanna built some kind of an ultimate win 98 pc.

  • @Davian_Thule
    @Davian_Thule Před 5 lety +2

    Tiberian Sun.. nothing else matters in this video

  • @zdienos
    @zdienos Před 5 lety +3

    9:03 : My Favorite, CNC

  • @MG-og6ql
    @MG-og6ql Před 3 měsíci

    Nice job Phil. The problem is its is extremely hard to find a 775 mobo with AGP slot, or to find a PCI-E or even PCI gpu with win9x drivers. These issues hinder and frustrate me a lot when I try to build my retro 775 PC.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That gets me thinking, which is harder to find? Board or GPU?

  • @chrll
    @chrll Před 3 lety

    So how would be the compatibility with DOS games with this setup, but using instead that Cobra YMF744 sound card you recommended on that other video? Is the motherboard and the FX 5500 good with vesa and the other possible stuff that late DOS games may require?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 3 lety +1

      PCI YMF cards are very compatible. Most games will work! The board and GPU are fine for most DOS games as well :)

  • @SHINOBHS
    @SHINOBHS Před 5 lety +1

    That's impressive performance for a PCI card. I have an Athlon XP 2600 with 1gb RAM, what card should I get for some decent Win98 gaming? I don't want lag or frame drops. Something that will play nicely up to 2002-03 games. I have agp 8x

    • @danch5802
      @danch5802 Před 5 lety

      Radeon 9700/9800 would be very period-correct...

  • @evan172220
    @evan172220 Před 5 lety

    Hi I would like to see a video featuring a q6600 on the Asrock 775i65g with some fast agp card. It would be intresting to see how it performs in windows xp. Thanks.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      So this board has AGP, which makes it a bit special and 98 compatible. For windows XP, you can use just any regular 775 board with PCIe.

  • @styxx8445
    @styxx8445 Před 7 měsíci

    Which is better for windows XP? 478 or 775 socket?

  • @tipstricksss1453
    @tipstricksss1453 Před 2 lety

    I think I might have one of these motherboards that has a dual core 2 processor. I'm going to look for it at some point and I might have a Pentium 4 processor to put in it, in my parts box. I also have a sound blaster live but no driver for it. I will probably use a different GPU or whatever suitable GPU I can get my hands on for a reasonable price.

  • @fernandoricardomagalhaes8521

    Hi, love your retro pc videos. Would that gameport on the sound card work 100% for joysticks? I'm thinking about build a retro pc and use a Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro and play games with force feedback support (freespace 2, etc), but I'm not sure if the gameport is fully compatible with a 775 motherboard. Is it or I should look for an older socket mb?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      I believe I used a Live! sound card, so yea, that should work just fine. But with Windows games, you can use a modern USB joystick with Windows 98. Just in case you weren't aware...

    • @fernandoricardomagalhaes8521
      @fernandoricardomagalhaes8521 Před 5 lety

      @@philscomputerlab Thanks. I'm asking about gameport because my joystick uses only that, and modern joysticks with force feedback are rare to find or expensive. I'm looking to experience those old games with ffb capabilities, but ffb over gameport don't work on some motherboards. Well, I'll look for a 478 computer as it's more guaranteed.

  • @keithbeesting
    @keithbeesting Před 5 lety

    Great video Phil any chance of a video on how to use a network card please on Windows 98 ive just picked one up and not sure how to use it im sure it must be quicker than transferring using usb.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      Not recommended as there are security risks because of legacy network protocols.

    • @keithbeesting
      @keithbeesting Před 5 lety

      @@philscomputerlab ok didnt know that thanks for replying.

  • @arphaksad01
    @arphaksad01 Před rokem +1

    Planning on building my Win98 SE with socket 478 mb (Asus P4P 800-E deluxe) and ATI 3850 video card

  • @zapzap7458
    @zapzap7458 Před 5 lety +1

    I personally like only ich6-based lga775 platforms for wi98 builds. Ich7 doesn't supported by official drivers. Only proprietary wi98 standart drivers available

  • @7MBoosted
    @7MBoosted Před 5 lety

    Hey Phil, I know this is about windows98 but I have a question about half-life 2. So I have this retail GOTY box of HL2 I found in my parents' basement and thought, "oh that would go great on my XP64 bit retro machine." So I took it home and tried to install it, but I get a "steam.exe (main exception): unable to load library steam.dll" error. Is there a new trick for getting HL2 to function after steam pulled XP support. I deleted the blob file, that didn't work and I tried reinstalling steam. No dice. Figured you might know, so I asked.

  • @cjhawk67
    @cjhawk67 Před 5 lety

    You should look into the ATI Rage XL 8MB PCI. The chips where made for a very long time for onboard graphics in servers and china has tons of the chips around so is still making generic cards with the chip. It has no problem running Resident Evil 1-3, Quake 2, Dino Crysis, Carnivors, Turok etc and they can be had new for less then $30 on ebay and newegg.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      That's actually a lot of money for what you're getting...

    • @cjhawk67
      @cjhawk67 Před 5 lety

      @@philscomputerlab Brand new manufactured parts is the benefit i see with them but you can get allot better newer stuff for cheaper. The black pcb rage xl i got off newegg 2 years ago was only $15 shipped and well its brand new.

  • @tudormihaialexandru3038

    Will a PCI-E version of the Geforce 6600GT work in windows 98? I found some drivers for the Geforce 6xxx series that work on windows 98SE and someone is selling a 6600GT for 10 euros. I was thinking to get it and try this on a system with a phenom II x4 960T CPU and a ASrock 970 extreme3 r2.0 motherboard with a SATA HDD. Does anyone know if it's worth it or if it would work?

  • @Passenger-nj7in
    @Passenger-nj7in Před 5 lety

    How do you cope with the higher cpu speed, which is a problem with older titles? I also have that problem with my PIII 500, Resident Evil 1 is running too fast.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety +1

      I wouldn't use such a modern machine for older titles. A Socket 7 PC with Pentium would be more suitable.

  • @smeqwack7337
    @smeqwack7337 Před 3 lety

    i have a similar motherboard, mine's is a replacement cus one of the cpu pins bent in the old motherboard. I currently have it with a pentium dualcore with 4 threads at 3.0ghz but it can go all the way to a core 2 duo extreme, if i can find it for cheap

  • @D0CCY
    @D0CCY Před 5 lety

    Hey Phil,
    please excuse my bit indiscrete question but do you happen to come from Oyten near Bremen back then?
    Because I had a buddy named Raimund in Oyten and we sometimes met Philipp to play NES etc. together...
    and bit later Philipp and his family moved to Australia... is this you? Anyhow, I really like and enjoy your videos! : D

  • @makotoenoki7271
    @makotoenoki7271 Před 5 lety +1

    What version of nvidia driver for this project?
    Suggestion for next videos: how use two OS on same PC, 98 for 3d and later DOS games and XP or even linux distro to run DOSbox or other games.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      I thought it was shown in the video, but it's not :/ So I used 56.64, which supports this card out of the box. But the popular 45.23 can be manually installed / forced if you wish.

    • @makotoenoki7271
      @makotoenoki7271 Před 5 lety

      @@philscomputerlab I tried the 45.23 on my TU4VX (p3 1GHz) and the installer dont detected my fx5500. With 56.64, slowed down games like UT . No sure if is the VIA chipset dont liking the driver.

  • @xDissident
    @xDissident Před 5 lety +1

    I thought there are no Windows 98 drivers for 9*5, G31 and newer Intel chipsets. So I decided to buy SIS and VIA based 775 motherboards for Windows 98 retro gaming PC. Why not to use PCI-E videocard instead? 6600 series is very cheap and have great performance. Also there is even 6800 drivers. Of PCI-E bus in G31 won't work with Windows 98?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      You are correct, there are no such drivers! You might have noticed that I didn't install any chipset drivers, they are not needed for PCI devices :)

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 Před 5 lety

    If you have multiple computers rather than all these seperate devices for each individual machine I think it is probably cheaper and easier to have a network server for storing media and disk images. That way if you want to install a title you just download it over your network. As pretty much any router you buy has gigabit networking included plus any modern motherboard, it just seems like the easiest way. And hey, if you can't reach every system with a cable you can still do this over wireless or over the electric circuit.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  Před 5 lety

      Way to slow for me, Windows 98 networking can't be compared to modern experience.

  • @johnmcbane2938
    @johnmcbane2938 Před 5 lety

    Did you not have any compatibility problems with SATA and Win 98 ? is it enough to set SATA to IDE in the BIOS and Win 98 recognized the drives ? No drivers needed ?
    Could have saved me a lot of trouble. I converted my drives to IDE with adapters on a Via KT 800 Pro Board. And that annoying ribbon cable...

  • @JeroenHuylebroeck
    @JeroenHuylebroeck Před 5 lety

    Why no Audigy 2? I think it's the best W98SE sound card. Also, a quicker processor is still an option when going W98SE, right?