Learn about Ford's FE engines and why they are among the greatest offerings by the Blue Oval!
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- Not having been produced for nearly 50 years, has not dampened the enthusiasm for this versatile engine series. From the 332 to the 428, they're all here. Come cruise through the history of the FE and test your knowledge!
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I love them all! I can’t drive anymore because of my vision. I still have a 1965 LTD 2dr HT with a 390 that I built in 1999, but have had for 43 years. It dynoed at 503 hp and 488 ft lbs before putting it in the LTD that my son and I restored frame off. It was the best driving car I’ve ever had. I still have it, but it is just sitting.
I had a 1965 LTD 2dr HT but mine had a 352. You could literally steer it with your pinky finger.
A few 406 engines that I have seen were cross bolted. They were late in manufacturing and led to the 427 so these were all that I believe they were bone was in early 63 before the fastbacks came they were what I had seen as notch roof 63s I don’t believe they even have a Vin number change. All I have seen were 2 door post 63s early in the year.
I want to do a 410 at 4.065 bore like an LS but use Mopar 440 H beams machined to fit the FE and 6.766 length with 1.4 forged pistons and crossbolted mains and filled to the water pump holes in a D4TE 3 web mains and twin turbos at 8 lbs boost and a good roller cam and producing 825-850 hp . These blocks can take 1000-2500 hp.
Just do burrodies in a parking lot , you'll be all right ... 😂
The problem is that the FE is still the greatest engine ever made and are not in the least obsolete. In fact other manufacturers are mimicking the FE design as their top performance engines. They are still the best design in this day and time to put in cars and light trucks. The design plus modern materials can create very efficient and reliable engines. The LS and FE share many characteristics and are both great engines. I wish that Ford would reengineer the FE engine to cars and trucks. That Ford would make crate engines based on these engines.
i have owned my 66 comet 428 nos 4 speed 4.11 gears for 41 years
I've got a 64 Galaxie xl 2dr fastback. It's Wimbledon white with a fresh/new, palomino interior. Been Garaged its whole life. It has PS, PB, AC that all work. I've owned it for 34 years. I'm the 4th owner of the car but I know its full history. Currently it has a factory ford "crate motor" 428 installed in the early 70's when they were still available from ford, Crane cam, Ported cast 427 heads, factory Ford tri power, long tube cast headers, a C6 trans with a Gearvendors overdrive. Detroit true track posi, 370 gears. Sure love driving it, probably burry me in it. Love my FE!
Cool! Hope you have many more years cruising in it! Thanks for watching!
I am from New Zealand and I have a 1961 galaxy Starliner with a 427 sohc engine. I purchased this car in 2014 and will never part with it. I drive it frequently in my hometown of Taupo regularly.
Happy cruising in your Cammer!! Thanks for watching and welcome to ITCCT New Zealand! Must be quite a sight on the roads!
@IfThisCarCouldTalk thank you, yes it does catch people's attention. Most people think that it is an old Falcon till they look again
I still have a nice 76 F150 4x4 with a 360. Runs like a champ
I had a '66 Ford F-100 custom cab with a 352. I changed carbs, cam, lifters, valve springs, intake and took the horrible log style exhaust manifold off and put headers on it. That 352 really came to life. It was also my favorite year of pickup from Ford.
IM 61 and i have been driving and racing FEs since i was 15 years old.i had a galaxie with a hot390,i took it out and put it in a lighter comet body and it would fly.i still have the 66 comet but it has a 428 now
I am 73 years old. When I was young and growing up my parents owned a 1964 Ford Country Sedan Station Wagon that had the 352 cubic inch Ford FE engine with a 4 barrel carburetor, dual exhaust, and the Ford CruiseOMatic transmission. My parents had six children. We would load up that car with the entire family and a top carrier with luggage for vacation trips. One unusual thing was that the car had a coolant expansion tank with a coolant fill cap that was close to the oil fill cap on the engine.
Awesome memories and thanks for sharing! Keep watching!
I currently own a '63&1/2 Galaxie with a built 390 and a '67 2 door Thunderbird with a 428.
Proud owner of a 67 Ranchero! 390 4V 4 speed, white bucket seats, console factory indash AC! Yes it does have the tack!
Sounds like a beauty! Thanks for watching!
I love the old FE's I have one right now in my life and almost have always had one in my life.
The miracle of the FE was the fact that it was designed to address the shortcomings of the Yblock and the fact that it's weird ass design with the push rods through the super wide intake and the half wide heads wound up doing all it did including winning the 24 hours at LeMans a few times is beyond belief...
My FE at present is a 390 powered 51000 mile all original 1967 Galaxie 500 fastback and it's a smooth strong runner...
I read an article not long ago saying that some of the early stage 427.FE's had the pushrods going up through the intake ports also. It was the only way they could configure the valves in that big head correctly to produce maximum fuel ignition in those big chambers.
Those were the Tunnel Port 427 that came out around 68 and were used in NASCAR and NHRA and some were put in boats. The FE is the best engine of all time!
One thing about that strange configuration on the intake was it also allowed enough room to change lifters with the intake on. Even a cam for that matter.
@@Bbbbad724 I've owned a few and like them alright but I'm not gonna go quite that far. The side oiler and cammer were the pinnacle but the ordinary FE was mediocre. I had the 335 horse GT motor and it was just ok in stock form. Oiling problems for high HP hence why they developed the side oiler setup.
@@user-wf4hd4gi4j Ford was afraid of the insurance companies jumping in and doing what they did in 1971. It is sad that they didn’t get the potential of the engine that won against the worlds best super cars in the masses. I have been a tinkerer all my life and the reason I hold the FE such high esteem is that it takes a weekend to make it a beast. I made my own oiling system, and I ran solid cams with the lifter passeges blocked. 2 and 4 were crossbolted with Pro Stock Engineering main caps that had oil passeges in the caps fed through the side bolts. I blueprinted the whole oiling system and they were vicious. 11:1 and early style non emissions heads , headers and the MR aluminum 428 intake. They were enough for all but the Hemi and 454 cars for me. I ran ragged old. 67-68 Mustangs with the shock towers cut back. I know it wasn’t factory, but the engine was still even to this day a great engine. Others experience may vary, but I enjoyed extracting every thing I could get out of them. The magazines had their knives out for them because they were running with the Hemi in NASCAR, and were selling dismal fucking cars off that and rightfully so. I just knew the engines and built them to overachieve. Those who didn’t really missed out. I am disabled and blind now and I really miss turning wrenches. I still have my last street racer. 500 hp of crackly sweet 65 Galaxie that I had up to a GPS 160 on a two lane highway and it never hurt anything. It still wants me to come out and play. My 40 year old son came out and gutted the wiring so I wouldn’t take it out and hit an oak tree at 150. With 4.33s that is a lot of rpm. But it used to eat it up.
I remember as a kid that my dad borrowed a 58-60 F100 that had been a Chief’s fire truck, I guess it had the police intercepter engine and a heavy duty Cruisomatic transmission. He took me for a ride in it and son of a gun that thing was a beast! It would burn the tires all the way until it shifted to high. It was a badass F100!
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@@IfThisCarCouldTalk I wonder to this day what they put in police and fire chiefs pickups. I think the 361 Edsel Police package. I remember the solid camshaft sound from my years of using them in FEs. I wish I knew the specs of the Edsel 361 ci PI and emergency. I was told that they were used in ambulances. But I watched the tachometer built in the instrument panel and it turned 6300 rpm’s so quickly it was stupid. The Dual Range Cruiso was just bang bang bang!
My father bought a 65 Galaxie new and had my grandfather sign an affidavit saying he was a constable so it came equipped with a solid lifter 390 PI four speed and all other accompanying police add ons, but in Vintage burgundy.
How cool is that?! Thanks for watching and sharing your awesome memory!
My '69 Mach 1 is a legit RUG-AE2 4-speed R-code "Drag-Pack" car with SCJ motor - 1UA crank with external "hatchet spacer" balancer, heavy dampener, 427 "Le Mans" cap screw rods, engine oil cooler. The block is a standard bore NOS May 1974 date code "CJ & Marine Service Block" with high nickel content and the beefy 3-center reinforced main webs. Honed to 4.135" with Race-Tec 12:1 custom pistons and a Comp Cams solid roller...3,500-6,000 torque monster
Sounds great and we bet it really does "sound" awesome! Thanks for watching!
I bet that a pair of turbos on 4.08x 4.08 70s truck block at 426.7 can do 1000 hp+. I really don’t understand the bullshit about them falling to crumbs after 500 hp. That’s just the hoarders taking. The Cammers made 2500 hp. They just want to hide their stash and if you notice most modern engines bear a strong resemblance to their obsolete design? A half pour and Pro Gram caps Molmar Rods and Edelbrocks and 14 lbs of twin Gt 45s are sucked Hell cats down the carb and blowing out new Mustang s, lol.
@@Bbbbad724Post the 1000+ hp FE video.
@@deeremeyer1749 I will when I get it done if I don’t die first. A lot of setbacks. My son doesn’t want me to do it at my age and pulled all of the wiring out of the car to stop me. I’m working at it. I’ve gone blind so I won’t get to enjoy it. But the block is capable of over 1500 hp. Just use boost for these old engines. It is easier on the engine than nitrous or even NA hp. I had it running and I went out and my relay and fuse box is gone. My wife told me to sell this engine and car. I have a feeling that this isn’t meant to happen. At least for me. I filled the block, machined it, and put ring gap in it. It will do it. Those blocks inhaled nitro and made 1500 hp without trouble. The 2500 hp is what killed them . An aftermarket block can take 4000 hp. But my wallet isn’t that thick.
@@deeremeyer1749 Video? I don’t do videos. How old are you?
HAD 66 COMET GT PULLED THE 390 OUT CAUSE IT WAS WORE OUT AND FOUND A 427 HR AND REBUILT THAT PURE HP SCARY GOT TO MANY SPEEDING TICKETS ONE TIME I WAS CLOCKED ON INTERSATE RTE 5 IN FLA DOING 120 OR BETTER BY A STATE COP HE CAUGHT ME 20 MILES LATER
FYI: In 1958, the 361 FE was the "Police Interceptor" engine option for the 1958 Ford Custom 300 sedans for police agencies only.
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Love my 352 in my 60 Tbird, 3spd Cruisomatic, 9inch.
4:17 Had the 390 in my 67 mustang fastback,, with closed chamber 406 heads,, factory tripower,, mild Shelby cam,, super grunt with quickly gained RPM with the high compression....
Sweet! Thanks for watching!
One of my friends in high school had a restoration in progress. 1960 Thunderbird with the 352 it was powder blue. I love that car this was back in 1988-ish
I'm still driving my '64 352CID FE {390 same block just different stroke and crank little over boring needed}, runs great lots of power and still has great compression @ 75K miles, looking to have her rebuilt as a 390 but hard to find a shop I can trust to do it right
We know of a few. Where are you located? Thanks for watching!
I have my aunt and uncles 69 LTD that has the stock 390 with the 2 barrel carb. It is a smooth running engine with plenty of power even with the 2150 carb.
Man oh man i miss my 63 merc, marauder 410 equipped palace , the best kid'o thanks
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My 1958 352 2 Barrel had side Bolts ( cross Bolts) ! Ford also machined combustion chamber for one year only! ( 1958) .
Actually, mid 1971 model year was the last FE in passenger cars. Some Galaxies and LTDs were 390s. The 400 Cleveland type engine replaced the 390 FE my dad loved the 71s and I saw many of them with both the 390 and the 400. Of course there were 351s and 429s in many of the 71 models, as well.
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I’ve had FE engines more than all others. A 58, 332 66f100 with 352. I also had 2 cobra coupe(Fairlanes) a ranchero that I transplanted a 428SCJ and three 66-69 Falcons that I put 428 CJs in, one with 3x2 Holleys and one with nitrous. I’ve built all most all of fords engines @ one time or another from stock to full race. My buddy @ a machine shop I sometimes work for called me to assemble a 428CJ with solid flat tappet cam just a few months back. I don’t know of any other engine that is so versatile and reliable. From dump trucks to top fuel these engines have been in just about anything you could imagine and did a jam-up job. Thanks for the respect it deserves!
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Lykins Motorsports just built a 511 CID FE engine making over 900 HP. He is using new FE Power monster heads. This engine is going into a Falcon...
Oh, the days!
So true!
I have a 63 1/2 Galaxie 500 390 4 speed car and a 68 F100 which has a transplanted 390 out of a Torino GT. I also have a 60 T bird with a 300 horse 352.
Sweet rides! Thanks for watching and be sure to check out our awesome Galaxie features and the Torino too!
I think the engine that was under utilized was the 410 that came in the Mercury Parklane. I think that with the CJ heads 2x4 intake and the 390 375-401 hp solid cam with header type manifolds could have been the jack of all trades engine as the base replacement for the 390. Setup that way it would have been a 410 hp and 480 ft lb police interceptor and a good base for the pony cars. I built one for a friend who had a Marauder S-55 with a 4speed and it was a handful. It could have had the CJ hydraulic cam for a quiet 375 hp big car engine and for trucks a 410 at 9.5:1 and the regular hydraulic cam would have been a good 350 hp 465 ft lb truck engine. The alphabet soup of engines in the 70s was unessesary. The FE with Cleveland heads would have stomped every thing as a 428 or with a 4.25 stroke a 460 with Cleveland heads. The 385 , really? They could have been around into the 90s . They are still here now….
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Very good video well done. You got a few things wrong but they aren't worth mention. I raced the FE 427 for over 10yrs with not one failure. The 360ci engine made lots of torque, but it was a bad bore stroke combination as it sucked down gas as if it was free.
We're aware of those and thank you for watching and being such a great member of our YT community! Appreciate the nice comment!
Nowadays people new to muscle cars, or cars generally, are pushed into the windsor or coyote engines as a swap or update. Building an FE sounds pretty fun, but first pass at a build list became a headache just narrowing down what block and from what year lol
Thanks for watching and commenting! Keep it up and good luck with your project!
My 67 GT/A was rated 335HP and 427 TQ
Awesome!
What a way to start the weekend, a new video from "If This Car Could Talk." How would the 69 and 70 Boss 429 Mustang engines fit in? I had a chance to buy (from the same owner) a 69 Boss 429 or a 65 GT350, I chose the GT350 but there are times I wish I picked the 69 Boss 429..... Thanks for your time, work and posting.........
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The Boss 9 came from the 385 series engine not the FE.
Im going to need my 428 internally balanced dammit
Well done!
Thanks! Keep watching!
Great video ! Besides one cubic inch what is the difference in a 427 and 428 and why ?
Hey Tim! That is a very good question and requires a very long answer. In a nutshell, the 427 was a race only engine with a mechanical cam, cross bolted mains, a steel crank, an aluminum intake manifold and more. The 427 was actually 425 ci but because Chrysler had the 426 Hemi, Ford wanted to best them by 1 ci. The 428 was designed for more utilitarian vehicles and in Cobra Jet form was still easily produced on an assembly line whereas the 427 was hand assembled. Those are just some of the differences. Thanks so much for the compliment! We appreciate you watching - hope you subscribed and share it with all your car buddies!
@@IfThisCarCouldTalk You still didn't answer his question. The 427 FE had a bore of 4.232 and the stroke of 3.785 (same as the 390). The 428's bore was 4.130 (from the 406) and the stroke was 3.98. The math works out thus - 425.98 for the 427 & 426.54 for the 428 -The 'Boss' just made up what the number would be that day.
Other combos - In 1966 & 67, Mercury had a 410 C.I. which was a 390 bore (4.050) & a 428 crank (3.98). And if you want the max Cubic inch with Ford factory parts, you take a 427 block & a 428 crank which nets you 448 cubes.
It's not a Fairlane Cobra!! It's a 1969 Ford Cobra 🐍
you forgot one the 1968 396 fe.
Thanks for the info!
The 406 was NOT cross bolted, only the 427
We know that. It has been kicked around over the years that some race ones were - just wanted to mention it. Thanks for watching!
@@IfThisCarCouldTalk:
FYI, the C2AE-BD late 1962/early 1963 406 blocks were cross-bolted like the '63-1/2 427s.
I think that the 289, 390-428 and the 385 series 460 and A Boss460 for the streets. The best all around series is the FE that made all of the 335 series junk unnecessary. The Cleveland head’s could have been on the FE. 3 engines that could be used today with the technology we have. The FE and 385s are nowhere in the same weight class. Those 3 engines would still be here now. All the displacements and indestructible iron they had. The FE heads could have evolved easily and would have saved them money. The alphabet soup was unnecessary.
335 junk...
The 351C was the most handicapped engine in PS racing history and to this day, it's DNA is used in NASCAR heads. No FE head (minus the SOHC) can flow anywhere near a 335 series.
Most definitely not junk
School buses and "farm trucks" with gasoline engines and drive axles are not "heavy duty". Unless of course the manufacturer produces "ultralight duty" trucks like F100s which are "light duty trucks" with no rated "tonnage". Making F200s (there were no F-X50 trucks at the beginning of the "FE era") "standard duty" and F300s "heavy duty" and F400s "super duty" and F500s "medium duty" and therefore F600s "heavy duty".
"Duties" are determined "in-house" based upon the "size" of the manufacturer's product "range" as "rated" by DOT "specifications". If you do not build an "official" heavy-duty truck that has "max" DOT GVW capability then you don't have a "heavy duty" truck "by the books".
Ford never produced a twin-screw max-GVW "semi truck" with a gas engine but that doesn't make medium-duty Fords "heavy duty" by "default".
Hard to bulid up cant push rotten oiling but good mild
And the TP in NASCAR could still beat the Boss 9 on many tracks. And for the street you can build a really good Street Fighter to this day. The 401K guys who hoarded the great parts and fought the Aftermarket tooth and nail to keep them off the market so their hoard would maintain their value. Too bad for enthusiasts. The FE is the greatest engine design ever made, but the whine and cheez assholes made sure that the FE was always twice the cost they needed to be. The Windsor is so much superior to the FE…. Build them and learn. The FE could have been the last Ford design needed, since everyone else is copying them. lol what a bunch of maroons.
Sure is strange Ford never put FEs in medium-duty "straight trucks" after putting flatheads and Y-blocks in them. Seeing as how they're supposedly so "versatile" and "great" and all.
They put FTs in them. They were 361-391 FEs and were in many grain trucks. How old are you? 10? I am using an FT block. All of my old drag cars used a mix of FE/FT parts. I’m not a social media keyboard commando. I wouldn’t know how to post a video if someone had a gun to my head. And to me, that’s just fine. You really look down on the FE/FT family? It says a lot . My wife has a twin turbo 2.7 Edge ST and it’s a good vehicle. I have restored a lot of cars. I raced but videos? Nah.
@@Bbbbad724 playing with a 352 build! Using the 3.98 scj crank, and modern 4.00 small block Pistons! 352 rods re-bushed for the Pistons! My version a a 400 going in a 63 falcon!
What are u talking about? They did? They are called FT engines. The 361 & 391. They use steel crankshafts.
The heads and rocker arm assemblies killed these engines. The heads air flow numbers were horrible. How they were approved for use is a mystery. WE ran the 390,406 and 427s in the 60s. We could only use Fprd cams and they were junk. The 410s and 428s were boat anchors. The 427 leMans was an animal but only several racers got them which pissed off a lot of people. Many guys went to the Mopars and some to Chevrolet due to Fords practices. All in the FEs were not worth owning!
1964 Galaxie 500r XL 427 dual 4 barrel carbs and top loader 4 speed. Nascar homolagation for the street. Very little information available, Wikipedia page does not acknowledge its existence.
My friends dad had a restored one and I went to car shows with them a few times as a kid. His dad bought it in High School and restored it as an adult. It could be temperamental on a hot day. I loved it when it would load up some going 20 mph through the park leaving the show and pulling out into the highway. He would do a rolling launch and open both four barrels. I sat in the center of the back seat with my friends. We would be pinned to that back seat, lift our heads between shifts and giggle.
What a great memory! Thanks for watching and sharing!