Lexus IS 500 Review - This goes to 9.5 - Test Drive | Everyday Driver
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- Lexus revised the IS recently, and now they've added a V8 for the IS 500. We revel in the sound of the rare V8 in this segment while trying to find out if it can compete with the M3 and AMG. In the end, we discover which car the IS500 reminds us of, and who it's for. Join us for a real time test drive.
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this car is definitely made for a mature crowd who just wants to get in and be able to punch it pass someone's granny whos holding up traffic while on their way to work. plain and simple, its a luxury car that can be an amazing daily!
What "mature crowd" are we speaking of? Is this what they told you or your own made-up bulls..t?
@@Mark-de4hj People who want Lexus luxury *and* a V8, at a relatively reasonable price.
I have an IS500 and love it. I didn't buy it as an "M3 fighter"... its not. This was built by Lexus at US consumers' request
I agree and love mine
The IS F was an E90 M3 fighter. This new IS 500 is... still kind of an E90 M3 fighter. Which isn't exactly a bad thing.
Its a throwback to N/A V8 Super sedans like the E55, E90 M3, E39 M5 and Original C63
@@Trussme96 id argue that was the GSF… which was tuned for the track similar to the cars you mentioned while this IS500 was not.
This is not a M3 fighter. It completes with c43, M340i and S4.
@@jml9550 I think the important part of that statement was "E90", as opposed to a current M3.
Problem is it’s just a parts bin car. That’s why it’s not called an ISF. Only a diehard Lexus fan would pay this much for a car with no upgrades.
If you need the handling, buy this and just add anti-roll bars and KW coilovers and it's still cheaper than anything from Germany and you got that killer V8 (+ reliability) - This car is a win.
This point is spot on!
I rather have the bmw m240i xdrive, i had real v8s from chevy, is500 torque is weak.
That’s the problem!! The Germans are excellent handling cars out of the box. Yeah Lexus has the reliability but that’s it. Beautiful car but way too soft. You can change the handling characteristics on any car with suspension upgrades but this car should have come from the factory with better suspension
Yes you can change the suspension but you can’t change unreliability…
I *like* that it still drives like a Lexus, traditional Lexus luxury and quality, quiet and smooth on light throttle, with V8 goodness, and cheaper than an F. Sign me up.
Best looking car in its class, by far. STUNNING
A Lexus IS Supposed To Drive Like A LEXUS! Not A BMW!🤦🏽♂️… Stop Comparing Everything To BMW & Start telling BMW to be More Reliable Like The LEXUS!… BMW is NOT The Standard Anymore… & It’s Weird that Consumers Complain When a car doesn’t have Updated Features & Technology then Complain when it’s added Saying it’s Too Heavy!.. You’re Never Gonna Please Everybody!
maybe because in the beginning, lexus do made their car in attempt to be more or less better than bmw merc. but i believe somewhere along the way, lexus decide to stop that pursuit of dethrone the germans. now they are on their way, ( without literally telling us) , to become like a brand that someone else try copy or compete, to be the benchmark for other manufacturer.
Honestly, I hate when people say stuff like "It drives like a Lexus" as if it is a bad thing. Lexus has been making the IS for over 20 years and has been benchmarking the BMW 3-series the whole time. It is supposed to be an agile sporty sedan. I can't imagine someone driving an RX or an ES and then hopping into an IS and saying they drive similarly.
This
Best comment ever! What’s better than driving a Lexus ???
Oh you deserve one of those IS500 sir, thank you!
Built like a tank!
This car is excellent. Here in the northeast the roads are horrible and the last thing you need to worry about is handling unless you are tracking the car in which case you should just buy a dedicated track car assuming you do it enough. Soft suspension to some, compliant to others depending on where you are located.
Nice and quiet as expected from luxury Lexus. But great that visceral sensations of driving are still available in 2022 without having to buy a vintage Maserati.
Rwd + V8 + reliability + 4 doors + luxury for 56k. The only thing missing is a manual but we'll take what we can get.
80k
@@rumble8014 56k
@@moisesojeda1085you aren’t getting it for 56 stop 😂
It's more like 76k OTD (USA market).
@@LorenzoC2314they’re 56k now Jan 2024 tho 😂😂😂
I would still prefer a GSF over this but man these things look nice now
I believe this car would be massively improved by just adding some Michelin pilot sports but that can be said for many cars
In conclusion the car is absolutely perfect
100% this comment
If you’re looking for a grand touring car and not a sports sedans then yes!! I was hoping for a sports sedan not a V8 caddy
It is funny how it has so many flaws, but in the end, the overall package is something you can't get anywhere else these days. So, those flaws hardly matter. If you want this car, you need not cross-shop it with anything.
The older I get the more love this recipe; comfortable luxury cruiser with a V8 and LSD for when you want to drift your way out of an apex or getting the rear loose when pulling away from a stop. - I want one of these!
Actually sounds like a delightful combination... A sharp looking, boulevard bruiser with a wonderful N/A V8 roar...
Lexus definitely needs to give us more F's. :)
It’s coming and it will be epic
They are coming. This was disclosed to fans . We are still aways from the number of powerful models that need to be introduced.
@@boboutelama5748 what is coming? LFR?
@@Toyota4Life What is coming?
@@DylanFoos I don't know the name. But Akio Toyoda made a bold public statement that, at least, 15 new sporty vocation models would be introduced in the whole lineup. After this statement, we had the GR86, the Yaris GR, the new IS, the IS500, the Corolla GR. Don't know if the equipment variants like those on the camry, are also counted. But there are still sport models that should come if Akio Toyoda stays to his declaration.
Especially the collaboration with Mazda comes to mind, they have now a common engine and chassis for a sportier luxury variant. One big power SUV flagship seems also to be on its way.
its really not confusing, its very simple. just 3 different levels of performance branding. in other brands theres sometimes more
In the modern era of numb cars with electronics isolating you from the experience, I miss the era of the (mostly) analog sport sedan from 10-ish years ago. I was also reminded of the e90/92 era M3 when I experienced this car - in a TERRIFIC way. Lexus kind of let the competition run away in a tech direction that changed the driving experience (not necessarily for the better), and I actually love how "old school" their cars feel.
I love this thing. Wish I had the money (and the need) for such a thing.
I have seen the is 350 in person, gorgeous
Big difference in IS500 F-Sport vs F model (RCF currently) is, the chassis, suspension tuning/stiffness, cooling systems, big brake kit, wider wheels, more aggressive tires, torque vectoring differential. interior parts like leather/F specific seats etc. While IS500 F-Sport is tuned softly for daily driving, RCF is significantly more stiffer/nimble than the IS500. RCF is made for the race track as a luxury car while the IS500 is built entirely for comfortable street driving. It is a competitor according to the Lexus for the m340i, C43, S4 etc. Not the M3/M4. RCF is a lot more expensive because of that.
True but lexus also said that they are planning to make a full blown isf model (which if true will either be a supercharged or TTV8) then my theory is they will also make a much more powerful IS with a electric motor!
@@paolowalters4462 Yes, that is the next generation of F cars. The 2UR V8 is definitely going to be produced till 2023 till the RCF GT3 racing car is racing for homologation reasons. The next generation of F cars for the ISF and the replacement of RCF coupe will have turbocharged of supercharged V6s
@@2ZZGE100 It seems Toyota has pushed the developement of a common platform with Mazda, and an inline 6 engine. That is already starting to beeing introduced by Mazda. Nobody knows exactly what is going to be. But I'm nearly sure, that the ISF will come faster and be built around the TT 3.5 V6 already introduced into the LS, but very probably with a solid raise in power.
The RC and RCF, planned for later, are probably going to adopt the mazdayota inline 6 and the new sportscar RWD plattform. What is not a bad thing, because this car will be a good bit lighter than the actual RC and probably all the IS.
@@boboutelama5748 Yeah, it is entirely possible what you wrote. I just pointed out that that the ISF (if there is one that comes out), will not be before the model year 2024 when the 2UR engine will be retired as the RCF GT3 homologation requirements will expire with the retirement of RCF GT3. That is something confirmed. The new V6 forced induction will be a replacement for the 2UR engine and it will be used in racing next after the 2UR is retired with the RCF GT3 racing car.
Good breakdown. But f sport performance. Not f sport.
The GSF is everything you’re saying that the IS500 is missing in a 4 door sedan. It’s track tuned suspension and stiffen dampers make it handle the corners far better than this one. Out of all of the Lexus v8s I’d argue the GSF is closer to the e39 m5 in spirit. The IS500 is great as a GT cruiser that wasn’t meant to be anything else.
Yeah, this car also doubles as a monster drifting car. I think it’s the perfect utility sedan, you can drive comfortably & enjoy the smooth ride when you want & when you feel like downshifting & doing donuts & drifting around corners you can do that too!
It's a shame the GS F got unfairly panned in the comparison reviews during its existence for not being M/AMG. Some of us still prefer a cruise missile à la W124 500 E...
Nailed it. - happy 2017 GS F owner :)
I actually like that it’s a comfortable cruiser with a phenomenal V8 soundtrack. Such a shame their not coming to the uk
Yeah, sadly these guys fall a little into the usual car reviewer mindset of "if it doesn't have rock hard suspension that destroys you, a transmission that pounds you like a heavyweight boxer on every upshift, and can't pull 1.5 lateral G's on a track, it's not a "good car" here. In reality this is exactly what you want to go for a drive in on a quiet country road on Sunday morning, or take a road trip in. This kind of "has to set Nuremberg records or it's shit!" mindset you see in so many reviews of performance sedans has ruined the class in the last 10 years, making manufacturers like Audi and BMW and even Mercedes churn out cars that are just not nice to drive when you aren't going hard out.
@@Beer_Dad1975 The biggest problem with this IS500 is that it’s a parts bin car. No R&D we’re put in along with no upgrades. That’s why it’s not called an ISF.
It’s a cool car that has that old car feel, which makes it cool, but not 65k cool.
The biggest problem is people that are changing brands from German to this. The transmission feels like it belongs in a 4 cylinder Hyundai. Maybe worst. It’s very noticeable of how laggy it is. It’s a weak link in the chain. What good is the powerful engine if it can only put out 70 percent of its power. Trans is a power robber.
If it was a 40k car, that would be one thing. It’s 65k so there’s no excuse why Lexus skimped out in new tech with all the great transmissions out these days. It’s handicapped by it.
I don’t see the resale being that good. It’s just an IS350 with a V8 in it. Only a Lexus diehard would buy it.
@Just think It’s only a V8 put in an IS350. It’s not an ISF so it’s resale won’t hold 80 percent in five years unless you just buy it and don’t drive it. Lexus just needed to get rid of V8’s and increase sales. This was their perfect solution. A parts bin car.
Lexus is making way for the V6 turbo hybrid for the real ISF with more power and a great transmission. All the R&D will go into that.
In a few years, the IS500 will be forgotten about. Unless you have a cult that overhypes the car. I was hoping to love it, but came away disappointed.
@@ryanb8736 I guess Toyota are mated to AW, so don't have the option to buy transmissions from ZF like BMW and Audi do - much like Mercedes they kind of have to use in-house transmissions and make do with whatever the state of play is. Hopefully Aisen will catch up on transmission technology with the next generation - they did pioneer the 8 speed automatic so they are very capable. Could be worse, could be Jatco trash!
Come to canada 🇨🇦
Meanwhile, in my country, we are stuck with the 200t, not even the V6.
The United States is calling!!! Get your Visa and get on over here. The roads are wide open.
@@greggraham2642 Wish I got that financial freedom. Maybe will just wait for Lexus Japan to sanction the IS 500 or ISF in the Asia region which is highly unlikely, with the looming carbon emission regulations.
Don't worry everyone Toyota is working on the next gen ISF with a twin turbo v6 from the new tundra. Their M4 fighter isn't ready yet but it's being tested at Shimoyama.
RE: the hood bulge. Even if the V8 would fit without the bulge, aren't there hood clearance regulations for pedestrian safety? If the V8 is any taller than the V6 they need the bulge.
And 20 years from now we'll all be gushing about this legend and clamoring to buy one. I about image some polyurethane in the right places and upgraded shocks and sway bars will improve to the handling sharpness. Long live the Lexus V8.
I love the way this car sounds, worth all the trips to Mobil. However you can see from outside the car that it has a floaty suspension. If they tighten the dynamics, I'm in.
It might depend what mode it’s in. Nonetheless, they did say it’s a highway cruiser so this makes it amazing.
Amazing car! V8 with rear wheel drive and 4 doors and a sunroof! A1!
As someone who owns this car. Its badass. I’ve had everything from front wheel drive civic si with 350 hp to Super sport Cameros. From q50s to Porsche. This car is bad a. Anyone who talks down wants one.
Everyone want a full F, a M3 fighter, DCT, and more, but then you'd be looking at a $70k+ (USD) car vs a $57k+ car.
“I wish it didn’t drive like a lexus”
What ?
This guys has always been stupid.
@@simonburkeisable you started with a small g
@@titaniumspecial4207 I remember he wanted me to belive a Land Rover is a better buy then a Land Cruiser
lexuses r boring to drive, thats why they call it "old ppl car"
This car was meant to compete against a c43 or m340i not an m3. When you look at it through that POV it’s perfect
Yea I thought the comparison to the gulia quad was a little unfair
@@Lionsheartification as someone who used to be a salesperson for Alfa Romeo I completely agree
This Is Basically The Successor To The 2007-12 Lexus GS460👌🏽
EXACTLY!!!
Great analogy.... spot-on
This is the sensible performance we need.
Nobody felt this way 10 years ago why now?
Honest review, was hoping for more positive comments regarding the handling attributes.
WTH is that statement “wish it didn’t drive like a Lexus?” It’s a Lexus bro. It’s supposed to drive like a Lexus. Stop that nonsense.
Imagine all the manufacturers is bringing back one of their classic good cars back to the market with fresh warranty and peoples don’t have to paying high used car prices! It’s a win win for all of us !
I think the reviews made a great point that the IS500 is a modern day version of the E90 M3. Which probably makes it a future classic.
The E90 M3 were more high sprung. This IS is more of a gentlemen’s sport sedan.
Now peoples don’t have to buy high price used E90 M3 plus with warranty.
@@mingq318 yep. If my kids were still young, I would get the IS500. But my kids are older now, I have my eyes on a slightly used LC500 instead.
@@jml9550 yes, lc500 is one of best car right now.
@@mingq318 yep. Not ready to go full electric yet. Never going back to BMW, Mercedes or Audi again. The only reliable GT out there in the market is the LC. Maybe a Porsche 911 when retired.
The main value proposition is two things: The V8 engine and the Lexus Reliability. If you want to hear great sounds and an engine with character, not an engine that caved to environmental regulations, and also a car that will last 15, 20 years, then this is it.
2001-2005, the Lexus IS had a 2JZ-GE. They could have made an IS-F with a 2JZ-GTE. It wouldn't have taken much, if any, additional engineering. I'm still salty that never happened.
Having the GTE motor in it would have been cool but it would have been in an awkward spot where it would be in BMW M3 territory with worse handling and looks or it would have been too expensive for JDM enthusiasts who would buy a Mitsubishi Evo, Impreza STi or a used Supra Turbo instead if they wanted a GTE car. Not to mention, they'd have to completely re-engineer the the chassis to handle the extra torque and weight on the front end as well. They probably thought about it and gave up to put that RnD money into the next gen vehicles and the LFA.
"It's time for you to enjoy the noise." All I can say is that I absolutely love you guys. I'm finding I enjoy the "Fastblasts" more than the comparo pieces because you're both in the vehicle bouncing off each other, like the podcast (which RULES, btw!) and we get the interaction between you two. Not that I don't thoroughly enjoy the TV show and larger comparo pieces. Keep up the phenomenal work gents, please!!!!! P.S. Do you guys have need of a remotely working bookkeeper? Love the work, thank you both for doing what we all enjoy you doing!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed this - and our other work as well. Thanks for being with us! (And no, we don’t need bookkeeping help at the moment, but thank you )
Hood bulge just gave us room for a centrifugal supercharger 👀
The lexus driving experience has always been. I am driving to not wake up my wife or the kids in back and my car can do that..
I think either of you would take your $67,000, put $20k into an E46 M3, and then put the rest in the bank for repairs whenever it needs it
Exactly. I would take Lexus’s reliability any day of the week. Been there done that with BMWs, frequent trips to the dealership shops gets old.
Coming from a 335is, gosh I loved that thing but I don’t miss the 4K repair bills. Maybe I’m just getting old but Lexus is speaking to me
@@Sammy-db3xj those oil leaks here and there are pain in the butt. BMWs are great to drive, but pain to maintain when it’s get to certain age or mileage.
2URGSE is ages superior to the s54, and the s65
I can't fathom a reality where I would take an E39 over this IS500 as a daily driver.
You all mentioned all the reasons I would get this car. Wait it's only one. V8 engine. (:
And bullet proof reliability. No?
You can't go to GS anymore, it's discontinued unfortunately.
Do these guys know that outside Of the race track lexus has Built lexus has entered their actual vehicles in a number of racing events and endurance races ? And has been doing this for years….
Of course we know this. But, it is only in the last year or so that Lexus decided to give their customer cars some sort of driver’s car personality. They are at the beginning of that effort, by their own admission. There have been plenty of car makers with successful race cars that don’t drive like their street cars - having a race car doesn’t guarantee a fun to drive street car product. Thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideos that is very true! Lexus numbs down their street cars.... the only car that was exciting was their LC500 for the masses, sure we had the LFA but that was overpriced for the time, and now its a cult classic the LFA is
I think half the E90 M3 lovers may jump in the IS500 and jump out and jump around for joy. But the other half will drive it 100 feet and leave with a frown. There's something electrifying about a BMW M car, especially with ITB's and a DCT or manual. Its a car that tells you from the first few feet it means business. Its a car that, as soon as you wake it up, goes "you better mean business because I'm not pulling any punches". It's a car that turns people who don't like cars away, that insists its drivers be certain types of people. The lexus is a car that is equally happy being ripped around a track as it does shuttling grandma to the grocery store.
I guess if we are comparing new cars to new cars, nothing is like how M cars used to be. Nobody is so bold as to design a car to make average drivers say "too loud, too jerky, too difficult to drive" anymore.
Disagree completely. I have driven an E90 M3 extensively as I had it for a while. It was great for its time and preferred it over the ISF version of the V8. The 2nd gen high-revving 2UR is a different beast made for the RCF originally. S65 is not nearly impressive as this new high-revving version of Lexus 2UR V8. It pulls so much harder, responds just as quickly and revs as freely. It was co-developed with Yamaha and a much modern interpretation of the similar concept. Yeah, it revs to 7400 rpm and does not rev to 8000+ rpm, but it has 100 ft-lbs of torque more available at 4000 rpm. It has much more lofty compression and direct injection to boost performance. The Lexus 2UR makes power everywhere right to redline and is a lot more powerful than the S65. S65 was fun if you were over 6500 rpm, but it was a torqueless wonder. Hated the car below 6500 rpm as it was lethargic and had no power at all.
@@thirdpedalnirvana I owned a 2007 M4 and that car was joy to drive, but then the problems started like a pouring rain from electrical, cooling system, and engine oil leak. This new IS500 gives me hope, I will test drive one and then decide between the IS500 or 2022 M4.
Bet u when Im driving out in my m3 you better mean business coz I need that money for the potential brakedown when return😅
@@KLRGT500KR did you buy an is500? I am considering ditching my e93 m3 for this? From the couple dyno charts I’ve seen, the powerband looks far more useable than the s65.
Are you so easily confused by 3 levels of performance branding? Let me break it down for you.
Three is the number of levels of performance in the Lexus IS series. The number of performance levels in the Lexus IS series shall be three. Three, which is the number after two, and the number before four, is the exact number of levels of performance branding in that of the Lexus IS series of automobiles. The number of levels of performance branding for the Lexus IS shall be three, it shall not be four, which is the number after three, nor shall it be two, which is the number before three, and it is definitely not one, which even idiots won't confused with three.
Five... is right out!
im seriously looking at the IS500 but I'm coming from a BMW M4, I need the stiffer suspension for sure,
IS500 for sure 👍
With that drive train... I should be able to put up with that front end. (If I could afford the thing).
I’ve been hearing the 8A is actually not the same unit as the one from the ISF & RCF, and is actually the toned down 8A used in other Toyota/Lexus cars. Not sure if that’s accurate but regardless I just wish Toyota would use the 10A or a ZF8/9.
Reminds of GS 400-430-460 models, wasn't an F model just the V8 option.
Sport tuned suspension, full Brembo brakes all the way around, chassis rigidity, interior sports upgrades (bolsters). New F models get oil coolers and trans coolers. So no not just a v8….
Spot-on... the IS500 will sell and sell well
Very good description. Thnx
I like that it is rear wheel drive
Super car. Best sedan in the world period.
@@layne4376 oh really, how so?
This car is all engine and nothing else. I like the hood, I’ll give it that. But that’s about it.
If it drive better than it does, don’t you think they would have called it the IS-F?
3:48 A quick drive to the airport in a new Lexus: fun (Everyday Driver) or arrest story (VinWiki).
So in summary, it’s a Grand Tourer?
Yeah. I've had mine for about 4 months now. It's pleasant to drive around in - smooth and relatively quiet - but it can become a beast on a back road. It isn't super sporty feeling in the turns, but it's just good enough to where I feel confident throwing it around. So yes, it's a cruiser, but a fun one.
They could have put a better interior in here and a manual transmission and this car would be a home run! How do you offer a $60k Lexus without leather interior, a sluggish transmission, an old infotainment system and a CD player? A lot of missed opportunities here for Lexus to have really made a great car, unfortunately.
Sound is awesome.. only north american cars get 75 percent of a performance upgrade. It just seems we get almost stuff from so many places.
Great overview, thank you. Amazing that this car will run at 100% ten years from now whereas the German cars will be voluminous money pits🎉.
What if we want to track it? We have a CT4 Blackwing and want grab this refined V8. Seems like we have to do a lot of mods to track it.
This would be a great daily, but would definitely require work to be a satisfying track car. The CT4 in better that out of the box. Thanks for watching!
Have you driven the GSF? What do you guys think?
I want one own a lexus IS250 cannot even wait to own one man the torque must be insane
Paul, what watch is that? Enjoyed the review!
I believe it's a Tudor Black Bay GMT.
since this video, the IS500 will be available in Japan as well other than North America. I don't know if Lexus' F plan is still going or not or if they are going 100% EV but the next F model was supposed to be twin turbo V8, but they ran into issues w/ the twin turbo V8 engine
Hey Todd, was the fly in the camera near the end triggering any OCD in your editor's eye?
toss a little boost at it and full exhaust with a tune, you got a contender
Easy fix after market suspension this is the car to get.
It's only fitting that this is an F sport and not a full F it shows the trickle down effect that Lexus IS doing and also tells us that the next F car is going to be a world beater again.
Please do a review of the 2023 M340i xdrive
Needs a lot more steering feel!
need some vented fenders and hood vents
I like this car a lot, and I’m usually not a huge fan of Lexus
Lexus needs to make the interior abit less boring
This review is not aimed at the 90% of people who will be leasing the car as new paid for by their company as an executive benefit. It is to be watched 3 years from posting when these off lease cars are available for purchase at the price of a new base engine Camry/Accord.
Except Lexuses, and performance Lexuses in particular, have incredible residuals.
You'll never see these go down to that price... unless it's salvaged out of a hurricane.
It’s a shame Lexus didn’t do more than this. It’s just a parts bin car for them to get rid of parts while increasing sales.
this is basically the same car as is350 with an v8. more power, better sound, but less agile, also more expensive.
You want this to be an ISF but it isn't. It's not trying to be. That's why it's called IS500.
Do you guys miss the extra 1000 RPM from the e90 M3 that’s missing from the Lexus? Seriously stumped whether I should keep looking for an ultra clean m3.
The e90 M3 is excellent. And the V8 is special. But that extra RPM is also needed in the M3 bc it makes real power so late. The Lexus V8 is closer to an American V8 that has easy torque much lower. We hope that helps.
100 more lb/ft in the IS500 too…
Since the is500 isn't a full F car like the IS-F, does that mean the original IS-F is a better car? (Creature comforts aside)
Lexus IS500 vs BMW M340i.
I wish more understood this... smh
I’ve driven the lc500 in their driving school at laguna seca and sounds amazing. Now the question for you guys is how does this engine compare to the Quattroporte? I’ve been planning to get into the Quattroporte in the future but maybe this is500 is a better long term ownership plan
We expect the Lexus to be cheaper to maintain in the long run (depends on how long we are talking). The Maserati feels more exotic, but doesn't drive better than this IS 500. Now the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio? - both guys would pick that over this Lexus. Depends on what you like and how long you'll own it. Thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideos I am more interested in the NA v8 experience of a luxury 4 door sedan than a more complicated v6 turbo. Have you guys any experience on the Jaguar v8s naturally aspirated or supercharged? Heard they are quite agile and handles well for a large sedan
@@tnutss Do not get into a Jaguar V8 unless you like how your car looks on a lift.
My cousin had a Ghibli SQ4. Bought it at $90K new and 4 years 50k miles later sold it at $40K. Maintenance cost were high. I would imagine the QP will be even higher to maintain.
If you plan to own it for 4-5 years, Maserati or Alfa Romeo is the way to go if you can afford to take the financial hit. If not, stick with Lexus. I plan to get a slight used 19-20 LC500 once the crazy car price settle down. I don’t need it now, it is a toy.
Lexus North America specifically requested Lexus make FOR THEM (us) an IS w/ the 5 liter. Its why the car doesn't make sense. Its why its not a true F. It doesn't compute because it was requested.
Gorgeous, simply gorgeous and will last 20 years
@@layne4376 general rule from Toyota, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
Beautiful
Didn’t realize you guys are in UT. Does it feel like it loses much power at 4500 ft?
You can hear the yamaha heads doing their thing in the upper power band, as the engine gets its second wind near the top!
Instead of being happy that Lexus threw this Amazing engine in a car in 2022. These guys are trying to find every reason to be negative and show how this lacks to a 2022 BMW m3. common guys. Most people buy these cars for the badge not the performance
We guess you missed the sections where Todd (red shirt) talks about who this car is perfect for and the reasons it's great, especially because of the engine, reliability, and more? Thanks for watching anyway.
This video features two guys yapping nonstop about how many supposed issues this amazing car has
even if I could ( the IS500 wont be availlable in the UK) I wouldn't swap my 2011 ISF for this.....
Better using paddle shift...while driving to the extreme....the transmission is 👍
@1:07 and there used be a GS F :)
Opps.. RUNS WELL....
It’s a parts bin car. That’s why it’s not an ISF.
It's funny how the parallel here is the e92 m3. Only its everything we wanted the M3 to be. Not a bmw product and reliable.... Eyes supra.
Daily use, this is how majority of luxury sports sedan drivers prefer m.
Y’all ruin Brand Identity by telling Every Manufacturers to be “More BMWish” when in Reality They’ve Surpassed BMW & just have Their Own Identity! The 3 Series hasn’t been Great since 2011!… Can y’all start bashing BMW for not being Reliable like a Lexus??? Lexus has always been about LUXURY & REFINEMENT! The Lexus LF-A Clearly Proved Lexus Can Out BMW a BMW👌🏽 but can BMW make a Car that can Out Lexus a Lexus?… Hence The Toyota Supra is More Reliable than A BMW Z4 & It’s the same car!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great car inside and out. Love the V8, just not in love with the price.
$60k too much?? What other car is priced similarly with a NA V8? I mean an IS350 F Sport is over $50k, so I’m surprised base is $56,500 on the IS500
@@jameswillard1 old engine, old transmission, old chassis, I think the base price should be 50k and I'm not the only one that feels that way.
@@CruiseControl1 I’m not disagreeing, but considering this isn’t 2010, that’s ridiculous. Even the Chevrolet SS Sedan (which was a naturally aspirated V8 sedan with no DCT was over $50k several years ago for example) Loaded Camry and Accords are pushing $40k. I’m actually not a fan of the IS500 either but you can’t call it a bad value when you factor in the Lexus impeccable build quality, high resale, durability, and the fact that they are giving you the same V8 engine that also resides in a $110k car (LC500) for half the cost
@@jameswillard1 Chevy SS was 46K to start, had a 6 speed manual, magnetic ride suspension standard, Brembo brakes standard, so since it was only discontinued in 2017 this shows what a manufacturer can include and keep the cost down. Chevy SS better brakes and suspension with a manual is a value.
Now I like the IS500 and I see your point that it's half the price of the beautiful LC500. I'm just saying with all the old things like transmission, engine, and chassis I believe Lexus would have one the game if it started at 50k. I'm sure it's going to be bullet proof on reliability though and it's the only one in it's class with a naturally aspirated V8. So I see your point.
FYI they also make Corolla for less than half the price.