Andy Stanley Just Made Another HUGE Fumble
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Andy Stanley just made another HUGE fumble… In this video, Todd Friel highlights a controversial clip of Andy Stanley, and shares his perspective on it as a Bible-believing Christian.
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Watching deconstruction is real time is tragic. Christ didn't "unhitch" the Christian faith from the Jewish scriptures and neither did the apostles. This is breaking my heart..... Please pray for him... At the same time, people that love him need to get him off the pulpit in the most loving way possible.
Yeah… irony is here: All apostles and probably authors of all Bible books (besides Luke?) were Jews believing in Jeshua as Messiah and God of Israel coming to help His People very Himself.
100% right. Tragic.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.". Proverbs 1: 7
AMEN
Fear doesn't mean 'fear' in our language today. It means 'respect and humility.'
@@IBNED Exactly. God brings down the proud....these men are proud and arrogant.
WELL stated! Thank you.
Andy is like all cults and false teachers: The church has been so wrong for hundreds of years,”but I have arrived,Thank God, to straighten everything out!”
Narcissist
Yet, he confuses me. His sermons don't make sense at all. Sometimes I frown. Sometimes my mouth drops open by the things he says.
@@lisacraft9929 Probably should stop listening to him. I used to really enjoy a lot of what he taught, but since he went off the deep ends I've sheleved all his stuff. Even the "good" stuff from earlier -- his book Fields of Gold, for example -- are cast into doubt now that it's clear... he never was of us, because if he was, he wouldn't have gone out from us. I figure he'll be deconstructing any day now and going full on progressive or atheist.
Exactly
This is a guy who was adored & respected in the late 90s…all the young guys venerated his teachings & the evangelical conferences featured him. What in the world happened that sent him off the rails?? 🤦♀️
And just like Rick Warren, Andy Stanley calls God a liar by mocking our Lord's revelation of Himself through His appointed prophets, disciples, and apostles.
In Andy's reasoning, he is absolved because punishment for that sin was founded in the Old Testament.
@@baldguy3960and Andy is spiritually dead wrong. And as a pastor he will be judged by Christ more critically. He is leading people away from the Truth.
So you're now claiming Rick Warren is in error just like Andy Stanley? You're just lumping every type of misinterpretation of Scripture into one big caldron, and claiming all to be witches and heretics? Do you not see the danger here? Do you not understand how many things, right now in this moment, that you believe that are most likely heretical?
Do you not understand there was once a case made that to play a certain style of music in the church - for the purpose of worship mind you - was also heretical? If you do, and you attend a church service with anything remotely close to a "Contemporary Christian" worship style, do you understand you're now stirring the caldron with Stanley and Warren (since you seem to indicate they are one in the same)? If you don't attend a church with "Contemporary Christian" worship music, are seriously telling me that everyone of those church members are stirring the caldron?
How in the world do you determine who is a heretic or not? Are only those who preach from a stage possible of the heresy you decry? If so, it sure is nice that you can absolve all the sheep from even having to think about what they're doing in the body of Christ. If not, do you realize that nearly everyone is a heretic about something?
Can you please stop for at least a second or two and think about your statements before making claims like this. It's no wonder there are people listening to the likes of Andy Stanley when the people in the body of Christ are so eager to lump all people into the same heretical group. And for what purpose? What does it gain you? What does it gain of us?
“Jesus is our ultimate authority” dang, if only there was a place we can read about the things he said
@MarkCook-tl8poAll the words in the Bible are from Jesus. He is God
@MarkCook-tl8po
I understand people’s affection for red letter Bibles. It’s rooted in love for our Redeemer. However, there are important fact surrounding the red letter Bible you may want to consider. Foremost among them, It is an editorial decision about where to begin and where to end the red letters. In many cases, this is obvious. But other passages are more difficult. Red letter markings draw an artificial distinction.
We know about Jesus from the Bible. As John says, “these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ.” The other writings of the New Testament are not a barrier or hindrance to our deeper knowledge of Christ, they are God’s own method of it! It is a false dichotomy to suggest Jesus’ words must be favored over the rest of the New Testament. It’s not either/or, but both. If Christians are not living according to the teachings of Jesus, the solution is not to strip away what the Apostles wrote, but “these things ought you to have done, and not to have left the other undone.” It was Paul who wrote, “Be imitators of me, even as I am of Christ.” Red letter Bibles perpetuate the erroneous view that we must prefer and obey one part of the New Testament over others. All of Scripture is God-breathed, in every part; the epistles no less than that gospels. Setting some words off in red as an indication they are more important than the other words cannot but make one think they are more inspired than others. Should Christians pay less attention what Paul wrote, because his words are not in red? We believe that the Holy Spirit is the one who inspired the writers to record what they wrote, whether it is the words of Jesus in the gospels or the words of the apostles in the rest of the New Testament. Therefore, it does not add anything to the authority of God’s word (and in fact may confuse the issue) to have some highlighted above others. There isn’t a two-tiered inspiration of God’s word. God’s word can and will speak to hearers in a monochromatic font.
@@carmenwiker2016 he's being sarcastic
As a messianic jew, teachings like this is such a stumbling block to my jewish brothers and sisters. Everything Yeshua/Jesus did was in context to his jewishness and the Tanakh/Hebrew scriptures. So sad this is who teaches the sheep...
Believe me, there are no sheep in that goat farm!
What people do you like following from a Jewish perspective?:) on CZcams. I follow Amir tsafati. Do you have other suggestions for me?
@@carly-0-7just follow Lord God Jesus, follow Gospel
You don’t need to be a Jew or follow Jewish traditions
You need and must become a Born Again Christian.
I am messianic Jew with Jewish mother and Muslim father and pastor of Russian Messianic Congregation in Cleveland Ohio
But I see that many huge problems in “messianic synagogues”, because many want be more Jewish than exalt Christ who is only way to salvation! They also believe that Jew without Christ could be saved. It’s heresy! No Jew no jentile can be saved without faith in Christ as Lord God Messiah!
And they felt in to Judaism and forgot God!
This is what devil does
Be careful
@@simeonyves5940 AMEN!!! I put it this way:
Andy is a false teacher
spewing a false gospel
to false christianettes
False gospel = False salvation
It's atrocious and, as an Irish Protestant, it makes me very very angry.
He said, "Jesus is our ultimate authority." OK, what was Jesus' view then on Scripture...🤔
Exactly! And what books of the Bible did he primarily refer to? It couldn’t be the Old Testament, could it?
That was my first thought, too. Jesus affirmed Scripture. He didn't spend time picking it apart and telling people He and it were in contradiction.
@@2Corinthians5.21 incidentally, James White just preached a sermon on this
And where did he read “Jesus was our ultimate authority”…..Scripture….
Jesus said, "Scripture cannot be set aside" (John 10 : 35)
Jesus said, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” (Matthew 4 : 4)
Jesus affirmed historical events written in the Scriptures. He never challenged them.
Jesus affirmed prophecies that were fulfilled and prophecies that would be fulfilled. He never challenged them.
Jesus described the Scriptures as the word of God (John 10 : 35)
With Jesus as our ultimate authority we must obey what he tells us through his prophets and apostles.
It was through the Spirit that the prophets and apostles gave us the words of Christ after Jesus ascended. (John 16 : 12 - 15)
The Scriptures are the writings that record what the mind of Christ gave to the apostles and prophets. (1 Corinthians 2)
He’s an ear tickler for people that have no desire to repent and are only interested in justifying their sins. And like most pastors these days he’s more worried about not offending anyone and keeping his numbers up than being true to the gospel. Reminds me a lot of Tim Keller who was a registered NY Democrat btw.
Tim Keller’s funeral held at St. Patrick’s cathedral. Cardinal Dolan spoke.
Tim Keller planned from before he achieved global fame to promote his Marxist agenda. His history and early intentions are easily found online, just like Mr Stanley's heresy is. Tim Keller also disbelieved scripture and Jesus with his support of Darwinian evolution and instruction to seminary students to never bring up God as Creator when trying to win souls to tge gospel of Jesus Christ. Where do you think Jesus started with disciples on the road to Emmaus? Peter before winning 3,000 souls for Jesus?
Great point. I want to be justified by God because I am a sinner. I have to find a way to be forgiven. It's what the Gospel is all about.
FALSE TEACHER
Absolutely!!!!
@@mattwhitaker9402 shocking given who his father was
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and irritating to boot
Andy is a disgrace and a shame to his fathers legacy. I can't listen to him.
Let's "unhitch" him from Charles ... the biggest issue is that Andy is a disgrace and shame to THE Father! Andy seems headed toward the Abyss and that without remedy if he doesn't humble himself in the sight of the Lord AND quickly.
Charles Stanley was disqualified to be a pastor at least 9 years prior to his official divorce.
He stated publicly that he would step down if they ended in divorce, which it did and he didn't step down.
It split the church and the ones that left believed he was now disqualified as a pastor. They were correct based on God's word.
I can’t either. He has a strange spirit …. Bla bla bla bla …. Nonsense !!
Notice he promotes what he believes about the Bible by not actually having or reading the Bible either.
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Isolating small clips of what Jesus said from all other verses and twisting it to his narrative. To shine less and less light that even he has the freedom he has so longed after.
He's actually fulfilling prophecy from that Book that he wants us to unhitch from! because he is part of the prophesied APOSTACY that has crept into the church in the days leading to The End. God help him - literally! - before it's too late!
Characterizing what Andy Stanley has been consistently doing for some time now as a 'fumble' is not being accurate. It's far far far worse than that. He's way past making a 'mistake'.
Apostate. That's what Andy Stanley is.
Yes, and he's way past "look what else he's done." He's been proven false long ago. Anything further is a broken record.
Yeah this isn't fumbling the ball. This is taking off your jersey and putting on the other team's.
This absolute willfully deliberate.
Absolutely!
The challenge for Andy is this; If Jesus is the ultimate authority (which He indeed is), how do we get to know WHO JESUS IS without scripture?
Especially since Jesus quoted scripture all the time to teach people about Himself!
Exactly.
Bingo!
@@MooJooyes!
IT IS WRITTEN!!! AMEN!! 🙏🙏🎉
It's actually gotten to the point where it's difficult to even watch this guy in a video like this. But thank you for exposing the ravenous wolves.
It’s an empty argument like when they say Jesus never condemned homosexuality
Yes he did please just read the four Gospels. He talked about Lot
So sad that Andy Stanley is a blasphemous disappointment of an heir to Dr. Charles Stanley.
The apple fell from the tree and it just keeps rolling away.
Andy Stanley is the fruit of his father's hypocrisy and his shallow, feel-good pop "Christianity".
@Packhorse-bh8qn
Curious what hypocrisy you’re talking about friend. And Charles is quite far from the ‘feel good pop Christianity’ of today; He’s bold, doesn’t cut corners, and doesn’t hold back on telling Christians to stop being ‘too busy’ for God and actually devote time to Him and actually sitting down and reading their Bible!! Every lesson was based solely from the Text and Charles very critically taught notetaking for believers. I’ve been watching Dr. Stanley for years and I’ve learned a great deal from him - he was a great servant of God. Was he perfect? No, but no man can be expected to be, and he learned a lot with time by God’s hand.
Andy however…well…he’s the antithesis of his father in every way, like he’s being rebellious against everything his father held ground on - Charles for example very clearly emphasized the importance of READING Scripture and taking it seriously to follow for absolutely EVERYTHING in a believer’s life. Andy however tries to disengage his flock from the Word completely.
Charles Stanley was a one of a kind, and his son is responsible for his own actions; “whoever eats sour grapes - their own teeth will be set on edge.” (Jeremiah 31:30)
@@ribread9501 "Curious what hypocrisy you’re talking about"
A pastor who could not hold his family together, who abandoned his ailing wife to go be the big shot on a cruise, after she had BEGGED him to say with her, who had such a bad relationship with his son that they could barely speak to each other, who had regular ":screaming matches" with each other, who went to a SECULAR psychologist to learn how to get along well enough to "do ministry" and you want to know "what hypocrisy"???
That explains why you think his teaching was good.
@@Packhorse-bh8qn
1. I would love to see those citations and sources
2. It is really easy to place a great deal of judgment on pastors -- and many are withholding the fact that they are men just as much as anyone but with ever much more responsibility. I don't doubt he made mistakes, but truly I could see that overtime he became wiser. When did these things happen? When he was young? Did he continue to behave like this his whole life? Did he want other people to behave the same?Is there evidence of change and growth? The maturity of God? Did he learn? Let's talk about hypocrisy here; what about the mistakes you and I and all believers have made in their lives? The important thing is have we repented? Learned? And been brought closer to God in our mistakes and failures? Because I feel like honestly Charles has used these life lessons to warn others.
I mean, let's compare that to other major churches where everyone has to be perfect, smiley, and peace and love and everyone is perfect and everyone is fine, which is why people become stuck on milk and not solid food or think that God is not of change and maturity and bringing men to their knees in Christ's humility, and refusal of such which ultimately leads to believers making worse mistakes.
Do you not recall that upon Charles and his wife's divorce he wilfully accepted the punishment of stepping down? And yet, his church didn't want him to. They wanted him to stay and learn and grow from it, and to not marry again.
3. Are ANY of those things an excuse for Andy? NO. He is a pastor in charge of a congregation -- that is a MASSIVE responsibility he is going to have to answer for. Instead of apparently blaming his father and rebelling against him and against God why doesn't he seek to be better and grow from the mistakes of his father? Why doesn't he seek after what GOD wants him to do?
4. You can do everything possible to set your child up for Christ but it will ultimately be their decision on making that choice.
He alludes to it with the comment about Rich Warren, woman pastors, and tax benefits given by state/federal governments...Andy Stanley is trying to merge present societal norms with Christianity. He is trying to reach more people by compromising traditional Christian teaching, thus not making actual Christians. He cannot see the irony of his wasted work.
But Jesus IS the Word, the Bible! Jesus is the Word made flesh!
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14
Yes! If he's going to "unhitch" from The Word, how does he know WHAT to believe??? Is he expecting Jesus to come to him in visions and dreams? Mercy sakes alive! He continues to get further and further off the rails!
Yes, this!!! (Andy has his own jesus he's made, one that is convenient for him)
Jesus said in John 5:39-40 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life. So Jesus believed the Scriptures what we call the Old Testament as the Word of God. Paul said in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. So Paul also believed that what we call the Old Testament are God's scriptures. It boggles my mind how Andy Stanley can come up with this.
Andy Stanley adores Rick Warren……sounds about right.
Birds of a feather flock together. You are known by the company that you keep.
Complete circular reasoning. He literally throws Bible verses on screen to make his point that we should devalue The Bible. Using Scripture as his authority to undermine Scripture.
I call him “Circular” Andy Stanley 👍🏻
This is a valid critique. However, the point he apparently is trying to make (rather poorly I might add) is that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, but Jesus is God. Jesus is the real Logos. The Bible, even if considered infallible, is not complete as it's not all knowledge (omniscient). Jesus is.
@@babrightlight338 One still needs to appeal to Scripture to make that claim. How do we know Jesus is the Word made flesh? John tells us so in his gospel (an appeal to Scripture). Jesus appealed to the Tanakh constantly and claimed it was the word of God. "Have you not 'read' what was 'spoken' to you by God?" -Matt 22:31 and "The Scripture cannot be broken." -John 10:35. Time after time, Jesus said "It is written" before quoting the Tanakh as His authority, to include resisting the devil. Why? Because He's the same yesterday, today and forever. This includes the words He had spoken previously.
@Kentuckyman30 No, you nailed it. Plain and simple, because it's plain and simple. There are no "howevers" or "buts." The Word of Christ is "finished" and "complete" - both the Word and Christ are perfect, trustworthy, and unchanging. Christ, the Logos, is the embodying of the divine message and the divine messenger. The Word (Christ) says so. One ought to stop attempting to support, justify, and enable false teachers. They (i.e. Andy, et al.) are nothing but dangerous, deceitful, destructive, fierce, and ravenous anti-Christs. Please don't entertain these clowns. The natural person does not accept "words taught by the Spirit."
Yeah spot on
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Does he not realize when people in the NT refer to or quote Scripture, they are quoting the OT? Messiah came first for the Jews and also for we gentiles. OK, I'll stop there. You are correct, Todd.
@@mikenixon2401 Andy knows this. When he "untethers" everyone from Scripture, he can then set them to believe whatever he wants them to.
💯 percent
He slams his own earthly Father and then expects his "sheeple" to adhere to his version of our heavenly Father??? Who on earth goes to this church?
Unfortunately, many people. He has 4 churches in the Atlanta area, and many "satellite" churches all over the United States, including one in my town. Sadly, I don't think many people attending his churches realize what he is really saying. Too bad the apple fell so far from the tree. His dad would be appalled.
No kidding-people who apparently don’t read the Bible and love what Andy teaches!
People go there for his big tent personality. It's part of the show. I've seen it in my area too: people hitch their faith to the "pastors," not the Gospel. That's usually why when the "pastor" inevitably screws up, a ton of people completely fall away and never return. They were never Christians to being with: they just liked the ear-tickling messages. I live close to James River Church where they recently had the men's conference where Mark Driscoll got into it with John Lindell over the Stronger Men's conference.... it's been quite a mess. Tons of people leaving over those shenanigans. But... they had a BIG SHOW with lights and trucks and guns and.... yeah, nothing that has anything to do with Jesus. Oh sure, they trot his name out once in awhile, but the whole even was just a gross perversion of a church "service". Anyway, the point being is that many people just came for the show, and once the plug got pulled metaphorically, many, MANY people left.
@@sidwhiting665 Thanks Sid. Very good analysis. Modern American (what passes for "Christianity" has become a Jezebel's rats nest of entertainment and false teaching. People better wake up before the Lord tells them..."Depart from me, I never knew you."
@@mountainman5216 THE saddest words we could EVER hear! :(
Stanley is slowly but surely going full on Apostate
Slowly?
I think he's pretty much there
He has been there for years.
A wolf in 🐑🐑 clothing😢
@chrisburton8079 He has been a heretic for years. He has brought in a secular band to play one of their cover songs to his so called congregation. He has spoken in favor of lgbtq in ministry. He has told and pardon my paraphrase perhaps that the Christians faith doesn't rely on the relevancy of a 2,000 year old book. The Bible is an instruction manual for why there is sin and suffering in the world, why we need a redeemer, what God did and what we should be busy doing and how we grow closer to the Lord. It tells how the New Testament church started. If we can't trust any part of it's history, prophecies and instructions than how can we trust God is who He says He is in the book if we can't trust it?
I can't believe how many people are in the audience listening to him and no one is getting up and storming off
Because they like ear ticklers. The church was never meant to look like fallen world.
There might be some. But they're not going to show it on their stream.
@@waynesolo I hope there were
@@waynesolo Of course not. What deceiver/foolish person wants to look bad or worse than they already do? I would assume none.
yes, this is truly the saddest observation
I remember hearing Andy Stanley as a guest on some radio show on KMBI I think it was last year. I was so appalled. Moody Bible Institute is really losing its way. Andy's apostasy has been really quite blatant for several years now, and he shouldn't be platformed by any legitimate Christian organization.
What's motivating this is the spirit of anyichrist; denying who Jesus is!
Yep!
The AntiChrist deceives people by his resemblance to Christ - he tricks people by getting them to believe he is like Jesus - the illusion, for example, of "signs and wonders." The illusion that he intends to "help" people, while people are being destroyed.
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22
Andy who himself is a "religious leader" is bashing religious leaders for using the Bible which he himself is quoting to get his point across? I'm speechless.
The deception is DEEP.
You nailed it
I have gotten to the point where I just can't stand to hear Stanley speak. His whiney voice, partly condescending, partly arrogant and narcissistic, is just too much to tolerate. The man is a failure as a Christian preacher but makes for a good cheerleader for unbelief.
Animosity cause he never got to enjoy sin for long periods of time. Good. Im sure it wasnt tolerated. For that passion to take him for a ride and ruin his life. So throw a fit and find a way
for yrself and others to enjoy it longer. Going on all over the place to some degree or another. Putting the light thats been given under a bushel. Wickedness . May we encourage others to seek Jesus
His father would be sad to hear what he is preaching! How sad.. His father was a great leader and preacher …
@@msweat I have always found Andy to be arrogant and condescending. I really do not believe Andy ever had a real Biblical relationship with Jesus. As it stands now his pride and arrogance is right up there w Rick Warren and the whole false teaching crowd. He talks in circles. I pray he wakes up and repents however he just seems to be getting more deeply entrenched in is false teaching. He clearly does not accept the Bible as the inspired God breathed tome it is. He argues that the writers all wrote on their own without Divine guidance. It is as if Andy feels he the authority to demand God write in his own hand. Andy totally ignores what both the old and new testament state about same &e# behaviors. What's next will he teach on interspecies love? While this is somewhat tongue in cheek I have real concerns about Andy. I have lived a long time and interacted with all sorts of people and I really feel Andy has something in his secret life that is his substitute God. It is so sad to have yet another false teacher.
Agreed with all that; I’m just waiting for him to cut through all the crap and just come out of the closet already.
LOOK at him! LISTEN to him!
Completely unqualified to be a pastor.
first time hearing him, but he's so irritating!
The Bible is the Divinely Inspired Word of God.....Jesus is God......Andy Stanley has created his own god and his own religion which suits the needs of his lifestyle..........
Christians created the idol of Christ in their own image. Council of Nicaea, Council of Carthage. The Romans destroyed their temple, burnt their towns, tried to erase their G-d through the creation of Jesus. The book of Hebrews was written the same time frame the temple was destroyed. Who wrote Hebrews...A Roman...
How can he say that they disconnected Jesus from the Scriptures when Luke says: “Then beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, [Jesus] explained to them the things written about Himself in all the Scriptures.”
Luke 24:27
If we disconnect Jesus from the Old Covenant, how can we prove He is Messiah?
Yes, that's a great point. The Old Testament enriches the New Testament. They're linked together.
Exactly! And how does Andy know what to believe about Jesus if he doesn't accept GOD'S WORD as authoritative???
@@billh.5360 A great deal of the New Testament (especially books like Matthew starting with its genealogy) are confusing if you don't know the history behind it. I know that people are saved all the time just by reading NT passages, but to understand things like the need for a blood sacrifice for our sins, and other deeeeeeep theology, you eventually turn to the Old Testament Scriptures for where and how it all started and how prophecies of the OT were FULFILLED in Jesus Christ!
Yes, so true
@KingsDaughter1957 agree 💯 percent
The mega church that I used to go too tried to indoctrinate us with Stanley's teachings in my small group at the time. Needless to say I didn't go down with their ship and I left that "church"
Andy Stanley is just a part of the falling away. You always wondered how it could happen. This is how.
I really think Andy Stanley has lost his mind. Andy has no respect for the divine authority of the Bible. His worship of Rick Warren is appalling. By God's grace I never embraced Rick Warren and left a church ove their elevation of Rick Warren theology vs Biblical foundation. So we have oodles of church people who do not know Jesus. This is tragic.
I was in a VERY strong Bible-believing church when "Purpose-Driven Life" was given to each of our members to read and study. As I'm going through it, in my spirit I'm asking, "Where is Jesus? Where is The Cross? Where is the Blood?" ... that book eventually got trashed. And then later as I would learn that Rick Warren was "America's pastor," I knew enough to articulate that the only way that could happen is if he's tickling ears, not "offending" with TRUTH.
It seems Andy is "ticked off" by his own upbringing. He doesn't want to be submitted to the Word. Wonder what his dad would say?
@dellaellis9529 "It seems Andy is "ticked off" by his own upbringing. "
Most people would be damaged by the upbringing he had.
I bet he's not "ticked off" growing up with a rich kid with a silver spoon in his mouth.
" He doesn't want to be submitted to the Word. "
Neither did his father.
His dad never denounced him and publicly stated how proud he was of his pastor son, on stage at False Andy's Church. Dr. Charles was also very soft on homosexuality and liberal on some other issues, during the question-and-answer section of his TV show. He had the opportunity to correct him and did not.
This is what I hear when I listen to Andy: rationalization. Rationalization is one of the side effects of not having the Word of God as your moral compass. Everything ends up being relative.
Unfortunately, it appears that Mr. Stanley is a heretic.
Not appears, but is a heretic.
You're kinda Late🤣😂🤣
and what heresy would be here? There is nothing that would put him outside the faith. Women in ministry is not an orthodoxy issue, it's a heterodoxy issue.
wow.
Its not the mission of the corporate church to appeal to the unchurched. It is to disciple the believer and glorify God
I hear you, but I can't fully agree with you. The masses were attracted to Jesus. The prostitutes and tax collectors were attracted to Jesus. Yes, eventually many of them chose to reject him because his teaching was offensive. But we need to let the unchurched see our good works without compromising our teaching. We need to let the unchurched feel our love while also speaking the truth. Matthew 28 says to make disciples of the nations, that includes unbelievers who will repent and believe.
The unbeliever should not be comfortable in the pew for very long, he must soon ask 'brothers what must l do to be saved?' or he must leave in disgust. Yet, we as believers must be there in love and kindness with the uncompromising gospel.
Huh?
Mt. 28:19-20a …Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you….
Church of Andy...run from his church
The reason I am against much of our culture these days, is because the Bible shows me what is evil. It’s not hard to figure out. I don’t need an Andy Stanley to tell me how to think. I have the Holy Spirit God’s word and a blessed understanding of what is right and wrong through God’s guidance.❤
True, but we all need to be part of a fellowship of believers, and that flock's Over-Shepherd better be true to God's Word - and we as members need to be Bereans and hold our leadership accountable. Apparently NONE of that is happening at Andy's "church."
That apple fell from the tree, rolled down the hill, floated down the river, across the ocean, and blew off into another dimension somewhere...
Andy has been walking away from the Bible
Wow!!
Andy is deceived
And is purposely deceiving all he can, with lies, similar to the dishonest God-denier, Bart Ehrman. They are all known by their hatred of God, His people, and His Word..
Charles Stanley was a faithful man of the Word. How did Andy fall so far away?
The reason the gate to destruction is wide, is because it needs to handle a massive volume of traffic.
Andy is scolding people for creating divisions by creating division. He's saying it's wrong to criticize democrats, while he criticizes Christian conservatives. I've noticed that, by and large, the Christians saying "don't speak about or criticize people's politics" are usually those who vote or are ok with others voting for democrats. You don't usually hear that from those on the conservative Republican side.
@@BATTY3459 in other words, they're not C
@@cosmictreason2242exactly. Its one thing to choose to stay out of it but anyone who doesn't see that agenda as evil right now is lost. Andy speaks just like the Dems on msdnc with the lies, emotions and agenda. Anti God
I hear you and it makes a lot of sense. However, my concern is that people are looking to politics and the Republican party to save them. We need a revival of prayer and evangelism. I feel that change is more likely to come from the bottom up (pastors and individual Christians) rather than the top down (president, senators and congressmen). Politics can change laws, but it can't change hearts.
@@kmtedford You don't know how God is choosing to work. I usually stay out of it until He moves me to act. He is moving in the Republican party. Drawing real Christians in unity of values. Its not that DJT will save us. But God still works through institutions that were originally founded in His name and on His principles. The revival is occuring bc Christians are crying out from all the corruption and its about to tip unless GOD saves it. We believe God has now raised a person to expose it and reinstate Gods values. In law, in schools. People on the ground still do the work of His hands. And set an example. We have excellent Christians Senators trying to make a difference against the ideologies
Christians should better educate themselves as to the actual spiritual warfare that is occuring People are waking up and they need an example.
@@kmtedford it can change behavior, which creates conditions where people's hearts are less hardened by sin
"what's wrong with you ppl?!" for those still sitting in that church
Does he even own a bible? The OT and NT are puzzle pieces that fit perfectly together with the OT foreshadowing Jesus' arrival and the OT quoted in the NT... You can't have one without the other. Next he will be saying we shouldn't listen to Paul's teachings.
Ray Comfort will have to share the Gospel with Andy. It's so heartbreaking,
Ray Comfort, THE MESSIANIC JEW! Yes!
What a wolf...
It practically unbelievable what has happened to Andy.
Considering his father is Charles Stanley.
Andy was no doubt taught and trained better
I think it goes to show us all how true the words of Jeremiah are
The heart is deceitfilly wicked who can know it?
If this can happen to Andy
Perhaps all the rest of us need to examine our hearts
Great point. All of us need to be careful.
Of course. We need to be examining our hearts daily.
The blind lead the blind and they BOTH fall into a ditch...
I wonder how much it pained Dr Charles Stanley to witness some of this before he passed .
Andy didn’t start this until after he died…
Charles and Andy famously had a falling out before Charles' passing out of this life.
these false teachers are easy to spot.
i could hardly watch the whole vid.
thank you sir for exposing
I think he’s just clearing the path so he can “come out of the closet”
My thoughts exactly...
Only a matter of time…
It's also possible he may not actually be attracted to men, but so attracted to the world that he's doing all this, including "coming out."
that is exactly where it leads
I wouldn't be surprised
We read about Jesus and Jesus's words from ... the Bible. People like this act like they are the ultimate authorities.
You are correct.
Andy as well as Rick Warren do not FEAR GOD! That is a very dangerous position, place to be in....
jesus never mentioned crack so it must be ok; thanks andy stanley! we can see exactly where you are going; this is the fast track to "love is love"
Why do we keep updating about what Andy says? His only audience now are those with absolutely zero discernment.
As long as he keeps teaching what he’s teaching in open forum, tv, internet,church pulpit, etc, his words will need to be openly rebuked, so that the damage done might be minimal. There’s one reason. Not to be disrespectful of your comment either, it’s just that there are so many out there who still don’t know, and are in need of guidance away from the wolves that are dressed up as sheep.
@@trencesmall8704 I’m sure you’re right. Hopefully his audience Googles him and comes across videos like these.
Apostle Paul called out false teachers by name, and that was before radio, television, internet, and smartphones.
Andy calls the Bible into doubt, yet He said Jesus said this. How do we know what He said except that it was written down for us in the Bible. Kentucky man is right on circular reasoning… poor Andy Stanley.
Andy sounds bitter. He seems to have a lot of resentment towards his SB upbringing and possibly his father. Sad.
Yep. I think his parents divorce embittered him against his dad and the biblical teachings he stood for.
Andy is being used by the devil to discredit Charles Stanley. The devil is a liar and the author of all lies.
If I was attending a church and the pastor taught us like this, I would be really upset
He's not just apostate, he's not even very bright.
Pride is hard to break
Andy The Apostate 🥴🤨
Yep; put his photo next the word in the dictionary: "This is what an apostate looks like."
:(
(I don't say that with any satisfaction)
The audacity to challenge the Word of God is appalling.
The only remaining question at this point is - is Andy a believer?
Only God and Andy know the answer. We cannot judge his heart, but we can judge his fruits, and the fruits are rotten to the core.
Point 2. You can’t be a 2024 democrat or Marxist and a follower of Jesus Christ. Andy Stanley read the Bible! His dad is weeping for him.
The more I hear Andy Stanley, the more I wonder if he is not very smart or if he believes his members are not.
Who are the thousands of people who follow this mans words and take it at face value?
Just like those who follow Ostend, Warren, Furtick.
Sheeple
"You don't save evil. You destroy evil".
What??!! I was evil outside of Christ until He saved me!!
We left our church several years ago that constantly used Andy Stanley theology and kept straying further from the Bible
You left, but did you find a new church home? We all need the fellowship of other believers ...
@@KingsDaughter1957
Yep. Still there and now apart of another church plant
As Christians, we don't have to keep the Jewish Law. Jesus fulfilled the Jewish Law. However, we are still to obey the 10 commandments and other principles and morals of life. Jesus is all throughout the Old Testament. Our God of the Old Testament is the same in the New Testament. I hate what the false teachers say. Andy Stanley thinks he is smarter and better than God.
Jesus to my knowledge did not change all of the old testament laws but he did change alot of them.
"In the beginning was The Word ". Period.
Concur with everything Todd. The key is pointing all to Jesus and instructing on the Gospel and let what Paul said transform their life.
There is no such thing as a 'liberal Christian' period.
Amen.
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Amen.
That term is an oxymoron. Individuals like Stanley, Brian McLaren, Phil Vischer, Tony Campolo, Rob Bell are simply lost souls who hate God.
Not true. I am a liberal Christian. Being liberal doesn't mean I have to agree with every liberal viewpoint, but I am a firm believer in social justice, anti-racism, racial equality, and truth in education.
@@ulusalani if you think like AS I guarantee you are lost 😂
Andy's audience is consuming all of his heresy because they themselves don't properly k ow and appreciate the Bible. It's really as simple as that...
Stanley is a false teacher.
Obviously, Stanley is a heretic. Funny how he doesn’t point out the sin of the Democratic Party.
God bless you brother Todd , The church needs people like you. What is the wrong with this man, no much with his father.
Wow. I fear for the folks who are absorbing this twisted teaching! So frightening! Lord please protect those who are being deceived by this wolf.
The good thing about this is we are seeing more clearly what Andy Stanley is really all about.
His dad would be very unhappy.
It will not surprise me in the slightest if Andy Stanley eventually comes out as a homosexual.
Never thought about that before but I think you may be onto something.
You are correct. Thanks, Captain.
I’ve had the same thought.
@@thecaptain134 The saddest thing of all is that he is leading thousands of people straight to hell! Very sad but in these last days, we will continue to see this happen in other churches.
Doesn’t he support the homosexual lifestyle?
Going full red-letter never goes anywhere good...he may end up an atheist...pray for Andy.
What’s that mean?
@@carly-0-7 It's a reference to the many Bibles that have the Words of Christ printed in red letters, and some say that's all we need to be concerned about in the Bible.
Alisa Childers’ old pastor did something similar, slowly undermining the Bible to set the stage for progressive teachings. I think the writing is on the wall with Andy Stanley, and has been for many years.
Matthew 4:4 But He answered (the devil) and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
Great point!
The writers of the NT quote the OT on almost every page. We must study the OT to understand the NT.
The underlying reason always seems to be the same. They've embraced society's humanist philosophy, then when they stuggle to match this with the Bible, they say the Bible actually isn't authoritative.
Afraid not, Andy. They did no such thing. Sad.
Regarding point two, we must refrain from leaning too far to the other side of the argument and equate Republicanism with Christianity.
Republicanism, at the end of the day, is a man-made philosophy with elements of biblical morality. But, that philosophy will NEVER match up to the divine perfection of God and His holy commandments.
It's one thing--and I believe a wrong thing--to say that a Christian must vote Republican. It's quite another--and I, like Todd, believe it quite right--to say that a Christian must not vote Democrat. If every major part of their platform is wicked (as it is), how can a Christian support them? There is no good to outweigh the bad. Now, it seems the Republicans are determined to follow them, and it may soon be the case that a Christian may not vote for either party--but I don't believe that time is here yet.
Excellent statement Dan
@@danbrown586 I agree ... the Republicans are stating the platform is still pro-life but they aren't going to make an issue of the abortion pill; and I think it was on the first night of the Convention, one of their speakers was some social-media icon named Amber Rose who is bi-sexual or whatever saying that Republicans welcome "gay, straight, everybody!" So yeah, there may come a day when a believer will not be able to vote in clear conscience for either party. We answer to a Higher Power than the ballot box.
The only reason people of faith embrace the Rrpublican Party at this time is the platform that yields itself more toward Christian beliefs. Christians cannot, in good faith, under any circumstances, support voting for ANYONE who does not value the life in the womb which God created. PERIOD!
This BREAKS my heart ❤️
I Still Love watching His Father.
ANDY STANLEY WORKS FOR THE POWERS OF DARKNESS. I BELIEVE HE IS ONE WHO GOD GIVES OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND.
Andy Stanley has changed so much since his father passed away. I used to attend North Point - sadly I don’t think I’d make myself walk in the door these days.
What a complete disgrace!!
Ever since I have heard of Andy Stanley, 2006ish?, when I first started listening to Way of the Master, I knew there was something off with him. Thanks to Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Friel, Lutheran Boy, Lawman, Ray Comfort, That Little Growing Pain, Fish with Trish, EZ, Mike Abendroth of NoCo Radio, etc. for helping me with my walk in the Lord.
You cannot be democratic and a Christian.... These are two totally opposing ideologies.
The church isn't for outsider unbelievers. The church is for... The church.
The church is the reach our to the unbelievers. We were once unbelievers ourselves until we accepted Jesus
This is my third or fourth thought (after many not nice ones). We need to pray for this poor disillusioned, angry, bitter young man. Unfortunately, I see this among this church generation. Rules were so strict and scripture so thumped that I’m not sure the heart was ever addressed. It’s a very sad commentary that this young man could go so far away from the truth, yet consider himself a Christian. 😢
I’m married to a pastors kid and it has left its mark.
I imagine Charles Stanley was 100% involved in his studies and teaching and writing that this poor boy’s needs were not met. I imagine this is also ‘daddy issues’. Does it seem to have gotten worse since Charles has died? Like Andy now has the courage to says what he really thinks?
We need to fervently pray for his soul and anyone sitting under his teaching. 😢
Also. I haven’t listened to Andy’s comments, so maybe he said something that you are referring to. I should probably have listeners first before responding to you
I agree with praying for his soul, but "imagining" how his father related to him is only "imagining." There are many other ways I can "imagine" how Andy got to become a heretic, using his father's gifts and position to set himself up as an idol and not as a beacon pointing to Jesus Christ, like his father did. Andy wants the glory.
Likely bitter. There was also a divorce along the way.
Bitter for years myself over church situations rather than being thankful.
The Stanley's didn't study the KJV as the primary text. This stated, I really liked his dad.
Yes, and he is no longer a "young man". Wisdom should come with age!
Andy is 66 years old. Hardly a young man
So we should disobey the Word of God on the plurality of male eldership to (rewinds video) give women tax benefits? I cannot see that holding much water before Jesus, the Head of the church.
Andy Stanley is crazy as a bed bug and he is trying desperately to corrupt the Faith. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. 🙏🏼 Please pray for the souls of the lost while there is still time! ⏰
Let 's declare Andy Stanley to be a "false bible teacher" and "avoid, stay away" from him as far as possible!
Many have. This heretic has been covered extensively in the discernment circle.
See: Fighting for the Faith
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