US Army Unveils Potent Successor to ATACMS in Recent Testing
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2024
- The U.S. Army's ATACMS, recognized as the pinnacle of modern precision strike artillery, has long been a stalwart force. Yet, in the ever-evolving landscape of military technology, what proves effective today may not suffice tomorrow. Recognizing this, the Army is forging ahead with the development of a cutting-edge long-range weapon-the Precision Strike Missile, or PrSM-an innovation poised to succeed the aging ATACMS.
Recent demonstrations of the ATACMS's ability on the Ukrainian battlefield, where it played a pivotal role in a successful strike against Russia's helicopter fleet, mark a significant achievement. Yet, this success prompts a forward-looking perspective. The baton is poised to be passed, bringing with it the anticipation of even greater capabilities and strategic advantages in the ever-shifting dynamics of modern warfare. This development makes us wonder; what advantages does the new Precision Strike missile offer?
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Nice closing argument. PRSM might accelerate provisioning Ukraine with ATACMS.
We got the long range version last month....
I figured that this is why they gave the Ukrainians a batch at the end of March. US Army logistics people were planning the decommissioning of oldest batches. So, they figured that it's better to give those old missiles to Ukrainians. It can't hurt. Actually, it worked out great.
@@monmouthnj Personally, I think Biden should bypass Congress altogether and hire the Ukrainians as contractors to decommission older batches of weapons. We have to pay companies to decommission out of date weapons - a fact that the people bitching about "handouts" to Ukraine just don't understand. They are truly idiots. We are replacing everything sent to Ukraine with newer weapons, built by AMERICAN companies, sending all the expenditures back into the US economy.
@@monmouthnj Yes, Lockheed stopped making new ATACMS close to a year ago
@@pat-orl They started making PrSM instead. First batch has been delivered in December last year. So, in theory they can "pass" 2000 or so of ATACMS to Ukraine.
"But ATACMS was already perfect!"
"I know. But we can always make it MORE perfect!"
never underestimate the desire for an engineer to say "Hold my beer"
@@christophermartin8366 Especially when you've got a Congress who likes their military to be two decades ahead of everybody else.
@@christophermartin8366 Yep, increased range and increased payload and increased speed makes it more perfect.
That's the whole idea for upgrading or a better missile. China and Russia will soon counter these missiles, and if we already have a new and better one coming out soon. It will be a surprise for them. 🤪 Surprise Putin. 🇺🇸😜😎
It's like General Cartwright said "We've gone from 'which building do you want us to hit to which room in the building do you want us to hit to which side of which room in the building do you want us to hit?'"
A 300+ mile range will be a benefit in the Pacific Theater.
Yes, China certainly does not want this to be developed & deployed ROK could put china in a bad spot, where I think they need to be.
Well, the PrSM Missiles have a range of up to 650 km...
And they're working on extending that range even more. With chinese navy in mind...
Google "MRC Typhon Philippines"
@@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258 PrSM probably now has a range close to 750km. They won't say but they mentioned easily beating 500km during testing.
Indeed
When 1990’s technology can destroy Russian 2024 “Air defence” 🤔
Nice cope.
You can jam GPS, but you can't jam inertial guidance.
Yes but that's 1960 stuff with new stickers on it
@@neiltitmus9744 It works. How accurate it is depends on whether it was made by professional engineers or by factory workers meeting the plan quota.
@@BlackEpyon Apparently Russian stuff works better. Just based on the fact that Russia has destroyed about three whole armies and Ukaine is 20 percent smaller than it used to be. Just sayin'.
US already had 1800 Expired ATACMS and several thousand still active.
Yeah. PrSM will refill those stocks potentially.
Does Ukraine get expired atacms?
Pretty sure Ukraine is getting our expired munitions. Stuff we would of had to pay to have destroyed / disposed.
This is a great addition for the ARMY.
Hooray to the red white and blue
Send it.
@@kenthannapoproshaika😂😂😂
Ukraine wont acquire PrSM because the US won't make it available to them. This missile is in early stage of production and is required by US units.
Yes, until PrSM is available in big numbers it is for the US, BUT that means as PrSM are available ATACMS can be shifted to Ukraine.
@@charlesrichardson8635 Maybe.
US and Australia…..
@@charlesrichardson8635gotta finish dinner before desert
@@JinKee Not sure what means. The US is going to start churning out the PrSM as ATACMS are coming to the end of their lives, which is another reason to get them to Ukraine. So if dinner is ATACMS the US is going for desert.
Artillery: still the King of Battle.
god moves through arty
I say combat testing in Ukraine..
Indeed...
@@alex-fs5bl 1/2 the reason.
With LRASM, too. Russia still has a few more ships.
Unlikely. They wouldnt want Russia capturing new tech if it didnt go off.
I say not gonna help
The Taiwan Strait just got a little more safe from a Chinese invasion.
That and the Marines NMESIS anti ship weapons
a lot more,no doubt
keep dreaming....
I am so glad the US and others are starting to use RAM jet power for missiles to increase range.
Right now ATACMS have been shifted to several areas around the South China Sea near Chinese illegal militarized artificial islands. These would be used to bring those bases under fire and neutralize them. This takes much pressure off the limited naval supply on US Task Forces if a war was to break out. Yes, as PrSM comes on line those will be immediately sent to the western Pacific where with the ranges stated would make them a very powerful support and deterrent because PrSM would be able to hit China from points in the southern Japanese island chain, Taiwan, and all around the island countries in the South China Sea. Then I can see all the extra ATACMS being moved to Eastern NATO countries and UKRAINE!
What are you doing in south china ? Warmonger 😂
@@johnnewman1483 What is China doing in the South China Sea. Building illegal islands to try to claim natural gas fields that already belong to Philippines, Brunei, Vietnam, Malvasia and a few other countries. The US follows international law, call UNCLOS of which China was a major contributor to the treaty and was one of the first signatories. They currently are challenging open water rights of all these nations and they commonly challenge US warships almost colliding with them. They have actually collided with Philippine ships. So that's what the US is doing there. These illegal bases, ruled thus by the UNCLOS Court, have been militarized and would be used in case of a Taiwan invasion.
@@johnnewman1483 China will blockade that whole area when time comes if US did not do anything. It's the gateway of West to East. Totally war worthy, even more than oil fields.
@@charlesrichardson8635more like int'l law follows the usa, what a joke
@@electricspeedkiller8950 The US was not a major participant in UNCLOS. China was. They helped write it, protecting their own borders and waterfront. They were one of the first signatories. You saying that the US MADE China do that? Hmmmmmm? You are the joke.
PrSM is going to win for sure! 🤘
iskander is far better than this and russinas have lots and lots of it
@@AkshayKumar-vg2pi bs. And russia isnt producing anything the world cant buy anywhere else. Russia has no high tech industry. Even those iskander missiles are made with western parts. so dont tell bs here.
@@AkshayKumar-vg2pi It's a different kind of missile. Iskander isn't supplied to field commanders and is twice the size and 6 times the weight. Atacms is a quick deployable tactical missile and Iskander is a short range strategic missile. You can’t rapidly fire one as an enemy target present itself, instead you plan for them to be fired as part of coordinated missile salvos against fixed targets like power supplies, factories or apartment blocks.
Tornado-S can take care of that while in the ground.
The Iskander-M will hunt them down too . . . including US Patriot System.
Russia is always innovating its arsenal and deemed 'Classified' and the Western arsenal is NO Match
@@AkshayKumar-vg2pi How is Iskander better?
Advising the United States Army to not abandon those ATACMS missiles because in war, the range those ATACMS provide have proven it worth and value
PRSM looks amazing - I wonder why the boost part is not jettisoned in flight - extra weight and drag. Now UKR can get "ochen mnoga" (very many) ATACMS. Yay, Hope they keep the factories running - we need to build up a greater inventory and have warm factories given the geopolitical situation
Maybe not jettisoned because it could fall on civilian's head or friendly troops?
Staging adds extra complexity.
Bro, Locked Martin unveiled prsm 4 years ago
One would think, there will finally be GMLRS and PrSM air-launched version for F-15EX....
What is the production volume timeline?
Thanks, Military TV.
Great report!!!
“Gonna hurt me some orcs with this baby!” 💥
From a simple chemistry point of view, the wider the diameter of the solid fuel rockets, the linger it takes for the chemicals to SET into its form. Which is why smaller diameter ones are made faster.
And since they are always trying to make longer range missiles for surface to surface, air to air and air to surface, they are always trying to find more energetic and stable chemicals to use as rocket fuel.
And even after the rockets are made, they start to slowly degrade and are sensitive to temperature and shocks and vibration.
Remember the rocket is a block of solid fuel so if it fracture or break, it may be dangerous to use and may self destruct when ignited.
Great that you mention the Australian involvement in the project. A few months ago, The press here in Australia classified the range of the future missile at 480 km, but Australia will probably need an extended-range version. 620 miles is almost 1000 Km, that is the version that Australia wants.
How about sending some of the former stock & send to Ukraine?
Thats the plan, Stan👍🏻
Send it all.
Old ATACMS near the end of life are for sure coming.
I say stop sending weapons to Ukraine period. There loosing the war.
You can put one of these
HIMARS on the deck of the USS America LHA 6, which is a large deck amphibious assault ship. With these types of missiles it can protect itself from miles away, or if it needs to get closer to the landing for Marines.
Also the F-35b will have the Macko shark hypersonic missiles by then. 👍😎
I'm stunned!
There a site showing what all USA weapons have been tested in ukraine?
Great improvement if it doesn't cost the equivalent of some small country's annual budget per missle
It's expensive. High value targets prioritized. AD and ships in China's case. Knock out AD and the jet jocks go to town.
Put propellers on front and swivels ring ms on sides
Taiwan could use a few dozen launchers, and a few hundred PRSMs too, and they can afford to pay for them, and we should see that they get them.
Whatever happened to smokeless propellants? Maybe it doesn't matter if launching far from the front. But if you're using a ramjet, I would think you could take the small performance hit with double base or triple base propellants. Then you don't have an obvious smoke trail going back to your launchers.
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When I saw these atacms they look like liberty caps, but the new successor to the atacms should be named PrSM aka 'liberty cap missile' because they look identical to liberty caps but second thoughts, they could call them aka magic mushroom missiles.
It better have a backup navigation system so it's not solely reliant on GPS.
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The shortest distance between Taiwan and mainland China is around 130 kilometers (81 miles)
Now, question is how do they take to actually make. Just because it's better than the ATACMS, it could take twice as long, 3 x longer to make each unit. Could take less time. 🤷♂️
also at what cost? the problem with US made weapons are that no other nations can afford those in meaningful quantity.
Main question, our ATACMS M57 warhead is more Powerful than that of our PrSM Missiles, so basically, it would require 2 PrSM Missiles to do the job of 1 of our ATACMS M57. However, our PrSM Missiles travel almost twice as far.
I don't see this weapon replacing attacms definitely fight side-by-side
@@AmirShafeek Indeed! Echoing your statement 100%
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@@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258 The fundamental missions are different. ATACMS makes a big hole in the ground and the PRSM puts lots of penetrating holes all over an airfield. destroying many aircraft. They both fit in HIMARS containers.
I urge and plead with America. PLEASE keep supporting Ukraine , with no delays 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Need something with a decent ram jet in it
WEll if the next comflict is with China, America Needs a Long Range delivery system that can do better in close support like C-130's can provide, they can land at forward landing sites and reload a lot for fire power. Better than the long range bombers, being in the Rear of frontlines means a lot when fighting with the Pacific ocean distance to cover.
Yep. US strategy is solid. Island hopping Marine PrSM, Army Typhons, Air Force C-130 and C-17 dropped JASSM-ER (Rapid Dragon). PLAN is going to lose a lot of ships in a war. Probably most of it's navy. Good luck.
Send the production to Ukraine for testing ASAP!
sounds like more ATACMS will be released from US this year ----
According to Defense Department budget documents, the PrSM will cost $1.2 billion, with 110 to be procured in fiscal year 2024 and 190 in FY-25.
Earlier in 2023, the Senate Armed Services Committee urged the Army to procure 400 PrSMs per year while the service has considered issuing multiyear contracts for the system.
Shouldn’t be so quick to get rid of cluster munitions, this could use a cluster warhead.
This was an international treaty.
@@FlyMeAirplane not with America, it’s just official policy. America never signed any international treaties on land mines or cluster munitions.
@@FlyMeAirplane Incorrect. America has signed no such treaty. In fact, there are already warheads for the PrSM that use cluster munitions
How many missiles can they produce every year ?
Back when the US was producing ATACMS a few hundred could be produced in a year without expanding production, and the production limit never needed be reached with the established infrastructure. Nearly 4,000 were produced. There are many details about the PrSM that haven't been made public yet, but it is likely to have similar production standards, if not higher with the possibility with another world war in the near future.
Remind the Russian trolls all over CZcams that they no longer have helicopters in Ukraine. LOL
What are the costs per PrSM missile?
My (only) problem with ATACMS, GMLRS and PrSM is their horrendous costs. And that leads me to the suspucion, that there's a lack of a working market for such weapons.
I'm pretty sure, if US Army would define a platform and its demands, it could allow more competition - e.g. with european companies like MBDA or Rheinmetall.
GMLRS is about $100K per missile but if you blow up a $2M helicopter it's a good deal.
@@FlyMeAirplane It's over $200K per GMLRS. And not every one is a high value hit. If reports are true, more and more get even intercepted.
US generals already say that high cost missiles become a liability if Your enemy forces You to waste it on cheap targets and producing them sucks up all of Your budget.
American weapons always cost more because they are better built and better tech
@@ragedmayhem1 This is only part of the reasons.
@user-iq8oo6uy9o First user of ATACMS in combat destroyed 14 helicopters, some up to $20 million per unit.
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Depends how fast or how quick the US Aerospace Defence industries, can build and supply the US Army and USMC with PRSM weapons, then the US Government can release ATASM weapon systems to Ukraine equally?
Lockheed Martin makes these weapons, not a bunch of defense contractors together.
Our ATACMS M57, M48 Singular Warhead Missiles (range 300 km, warhead 450 kg) are slated to be Shipped to Ukraine 🇺🇦, together with Enormous Amounts of other Advanced American Weaponry, as soon as obstacles are removed in our House of Representatives...
That puts half a dozen PLA Navy ports within range of Taipei. Once the range is extended it will be almost the entire East China seaboard.
There are more than enough ATACMS that they could have been given two years ago and done much good. It's a political choice, not a strategic one.
It would have been informative to talk about what variable guidance systems (seekers) there are or might be, and what PRSM could do in an EW environment or one in which GPS is severely degraded.
Os ultimos mísseis atcms e himars foram interceptados com sucesso. As atualizações eletrônicas das baterias russas tornaram a versão desses misseis obsoletos.
Wish they would have called it ATACMS 2. Way better name.
What missile was used on the Pentagon on 9/11/2001? I'm not being a conspiracy theorist. Rumsfeld said it was a missile on live TV.
Ukraine will test them for a cut of future sales.
No I doubt Ukraine will get any of these new missiles as there war will come to an end. No missile will change the outcome of this war. To little to late just as Germany found out in world war two.
these things are worth their weight in gold on a battlefield. ukraine has shown the advantage a system like this gives the attacker.
Don't forget to paint them laser neutralizing blue
How much 😢
PRSM need,s real world testing in Ukraine. against Russian electronic jamming
Thought they oust got them. 😂
Can the new Mako hypersonic missile be fired from a HIMARS launcher?
No. That is an aircraft launched weapon.
All ballistic missiles are hypersonic.....
@@Wised1000 the problem with the term "hypersonic" in reference to missiles is whether it is being used strictly to describe its max velocity, or if it is the more recent usage to describe the newer classes of missiles that can achieve hypersonic speeds while also being able to actively maneuver in the descent to their target. All that being said, I don't think the Mako flies on a ballistic trajectory.
@@Wised1000 Sorta. If it can't maneuver at those speeds, it isn't a true hypersonic missile by military standards.
600 miles and 2 missiles in 1 pod? So what's inside 5kg heat warhead?
Almost - regular GMLRS warhead.
*Yup,,, All 560 ATACMS are on the chopping block,,,*
Then let it have some combat use to see what it can do.
We all know the answer... Just waiting for the transport
I don't think ATACMS missiles should be called artillery.
Any strategical wargamer knows that range creates the most headaches for the opponent. The operational level battlefield assets are often the most powerful and difficult to replace. Often offense-only countries like Russia, Iran, and China (are they all communists?) placed on defense exhibit the worst levels of strategical rationality.
Consider that the PRSM will be severely underestimated with a Not-Invented-Here attitude with huge political investment in downplaying them to assure they die only when expedient. Coupled with the kind of par-for-the-course abundancy blunderers like Russian and Chinese PRSM unbelievable specs will lead to even greater losses for those partners in the next year's war.
I can see it already Russian and Chinese strategists snapping their quill pens in anger as they try to guess PRSMs range and limitations. It also shows that these countries political wealth politicos spending most of their money on mainstream media, espionage, and buying out Washington politicians should at least put in a five-hour work week to bolster up post-forest fire like tech trees.
Maybe our enemies already know PRSM's spec due to a tug of war between the military and Obama's Occupy Washington overstay stint as he, she, or it (in the LBQTWXYZ sense) currently serves a de facto third term on behalf of Xi - Or is it Putin and/or the Ayatollah?
Does it matter in the Shakespearean sense -if all you can do is watch the Great Washington D.C. Cloud City dump debts, taxes, and inflation down on the citizenry -and on Friday's as the PC press typically dumps the worse new news when people hit the pubs?
Still, our enemies knowing so won't matter because they've been quite entertaining filling the Don't Book with playbook foibles. The thesis behind that is that spiritual insanity leads to strategical irrationality every time. This construct is our best weapon. The rationality is in all aspects of societies and national security strategy. In this regard, PRSM is one of the best support weapons testing the very realistic conjecture that PRSM is a threat beyond their comprehension know matter how great the intel.
I remember when we didn't put our capabilities out there
cost a pop please
ATACMS are incredible guided missiles. Deadly accurate. But an old platform and munitions for them are not plentiful especially the M39 Cluster Bomb. Too bad incredibly effective bomb.
That's not something that can't be remedied...
That's cool, and in about 10 years we might have 50 of them manufactured. Outsourcing everything is really paying off.
It may be months or even over a year or two before the PRSMs are in full production and ready to be deployed overseas. So I doubt Ukraine is going to get them any time soon unfortunately.
Right, Ukr won't get PRSM during this war, but will speed up donation of ATACMS to Ukr!
What is the projected build rate? Probably too slow for the real world/war scenario!
It's called the Wackems 😅
Recommend extensive field testing in Ukraine!!
"PRISM" missile?
PrSM Missiles
Excellent news for Ukraine
The ATACMS is a beautiful tactical ballistic missile~♥
ATACAMS is not a ballistic missile, it's a guided artillery rocket.
@@niweshlekhak9646 A guided rocket is a missile
@@fdk7014 no missile is something that has an engine, rockets don't have engine.
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So... it's just another missile?
Same as last to shoot down helicopters
Slawa Ukrainie 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Thank God we have Russian radar to test this on
And this one will be ten times more expensive so the will build only few of them. Ok.
If they build as little as 5,000 of them, that's more than Russia has in total military aircrafts.
Send it to Ukraine!!!
How about studying peace and fighting greed, which is the greatest threat to peace.
What is their guidance system? Russia, and presumably China, has advanced electronic warfare capabilities that interfere with the standard GPS guidance of the ATACMS missiles.
ATACMs missiles (and most of the GMLRS variants) use inertial guidance as well as GPS, so they are less susceptible to jamming. The small diameter glide bombs and 155mm excalibur rounds are solely reliant on GPS, and have been easier for Russian forces to throw off target. It will be interesting to see how much damage the introduction of F-16s fitted with AGM-88 HARM missiles will do to Russia's EW & AA assets in the area.
How will the PRSM react to GPS jamming? Jamming has already been effective against our weapons in Ukraine.
Just like ATACMs and most variants of GMLRS, it will have both GPS and inertial guidance - and it may even have preloaded maps that an onboard camera/computer can refer to, as well. Worth noting, the newer GPS guidance receivers are better at filtering out EW jamming... but having multiple means of guidance is best.
Range is classified. Please don't give us numbers.
The Ukrainian military will be getting the longer range Atacms that they have not had in the past. We can only pray for the aid package to Ukraine to be voted on and signed by Biden soon. Slava Ukraini
Ukraine ran from Avdeevka with their tale between their legs, their military is finished lets be honest
Send some of these to Ukraine for more testing and surprise the Russian.
We can build great stuff. But if we can't establish at least air superiority quickly, these missile want matter in the next great war due to their cost.
First strike, depleted heads. Second drone assault cluster assist, third Thermo.
Before delivering F-16, private where is the A-10?
We have a till now clear to clear classical battlefield, and till now the field gets butcherd. How many Mothers we have?
The first plane for this none nuke is the A-10.
If Biden gives the A-10, we have a Problem.
The next days I will relax in my chair and will be the Reader of the A-10 Option in the package 🎉
Most definitely send some to Ukraine 🇺🇦....for further Testing
Strictly an American export weapon. If America wanted to destroy something or someone with level of firepower it would use a drone or a fighter jet. Also it just seems to be like a Russian Zircon with a higher price tag.
A question that comes to mind is whether the advent of the PRSM will make the stocks of the older Atacms less important to US forces and therefore make them more available to Ukraine
The US/ NATO/ we in the west should be pulling out all the stops in our support for Ukraine in their front line
Why don’t they combat test these new weapons in Ukraine?
that’s 91 kilograms….not 91 kilogarms
We have to build our PSRM inventory up, then we can provide TACAMS to Ukraine.