Sly Cooper 5 Imagined Part 2: Gameplay/Mechanics + Customization & More!
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- So here is part 2 of Sly Cooper 5 Imagined. This time, let’s discuss the gameplay style Sly 5 could follow. I think it is time Sanzaru Games, assuming they are going to develop it, take it up a notch, where the fifth instalment gets a bit more challenging if not the most challenging.
Sly Cooper The Thievius Raccoonus is the most linear game out of them all. Sucker Punch decided to update the formula of the first game by introducing some new mechanics. Sly Cooper 2 Band of Thieves introduced us to ThiefNet, the power meter and health bar. Clue bottles were kept just like the first game. Sly Cooper 3 had a very similar formula but the clue bottles were scrapped.
Sly Cooper 4 Thieves in Time introduced us to a new collectable such as masks. Collecting some would unlocked Ratchet’s Wrench and different outfits let’s say. Sly Cooper 5 should take all the strong points out of the games and combine them!
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So here’s an idea that I’m just spitballing around:
Sly is running around Egypt, passes out, and is rescued by Slytunkhamen, who is the pharaoh of the time, and brought back to some grand Egyptian style palace with guards. After waking up, Slytunkhamen asks Sly who he is, but Sly actually has slight amnesia and can only remember he’s not from this era and that he is a Cooper. Upon hearing this, Slytunkhamen is skeptical and sends Sly on a mission to prove himself by “bugging” someone’s shelter that is heavily guarded with a bug in the game who is plotting to kill Sly’s ancestor (similar to the bugging mission in Sly 2 with Rajan). This could be a younger version of Clockwerk, but Sly having amnesia doesn’t recognize him at first. Sly returns upon completing the mission, not feeling the best about it due to his reputation of being a master thief and feeling as though he just did someone’s dirty work. Some time passes through the game, and Clockwerk is found guilty of treason against Slytunkhamen, and is dealt some kind of harsh punishment, in which Clockwerk escapes and ultimately has his revenge in time, attacking the palace with pots of fire from above trying to burn the place to the ground and killing Sly’s ancestor in cold blood right in front of Sly. As a result, this causes Sly’s amnesia to fade away and all his past journeys and memories to come flooding back. Clockwerk flys away, and as mass hysteria is going on, one of the guards that very close to Sly’s ancestors mentions to Sly that Slytunkhamen had a secret family somewhere in Egypt and wanted his son to have some kind of writings (these being the very first parts of the Thievius Raccoonus) to be passed down from him, and tells Sly the location and papers to deliver because the guard believes that Sly is the only one capable of finding and succeeding on this mission in the midst of the chaos.
Eventually, this somehow causes a time anomaly in the present day, in which both Bentley and Penelope both notice (don’t know the details of how they would explain this). As a result, Bentley informs the gang, who have nearly given up on the idea that Sly is alive and are at different locations at the time, to reunite and get the time machine ready to rescue Sly. On the flip side Penelope goes back to some kind of hideout with a time machine of her own, gets ready to travel back to kill Sly in the past for being still made at the events in Sly 4, and ends up traveling right after Sly has been rescued. However, Clockwerk, somewhere out in the distance, notices that Sly has the Cooper family cane along with the time travel machine and comes in flying trying to attack the van but barely misses as it fades back to the present day, but sees Penelope come out of another time rift/ hole (whatever you want to call it) and questions her about what is going on while very enraged about the events that have unfolded.
This is where a real tricky part comes into play and has a few plot holes because I don’t have all the details as to how they would explain this-Penelope explains everything and how she also hates Sly, the two find old parts of Le Paradox blimp and begin replacing Clockwerk’s body with the metal parts to keep him alive, Penelope has been working on a cloning device and uses it on Clockwerk to keep one version in the past to still kill of Sly’s ancestors while bringing another one version back with her to the present day to train with futuristic weapons to get ready to kill Sly, eventually leading to an epic showdown against both Sly and Clockwerk at the end of the game, in which both Sly and Clockwerk switch roles as being playable, with the game ending with Sly ultimately winning, Penelope being locked away permanently, and some time skip in which Sly has his own kids with Carmelita.
The episodes could consist of the story mentioned above at least being 3-4 episodes, the gang getting each getting their own episode with character development as they slowly reunite, and at least 1-2 of an interaction between Penelope and Clockwerk (with Clockwerk being the playable character during the 1-2 mini episodes).
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I enjoyed reading this so much :D
I would play this
@@VtnVivi what an essay... Hope sony would take notes
Sly Cooper will always have a special place in my heart
:)
make fife have it to be like nuber 2 just les of the same thing over agen
i would like to be abel to ply as slys anseters
Sly 5 better come out
It needs to!!!!
TOTALLY!!
VTNVIVI it is
reuben johnson ARE YOU SERIOUS??!
BlairBuster Energy no
I want Sly Cooper 5 to come out!!!
You and everyone here.
@@VtnVivi I noticed that Bently's eyebrows are connected to his glasses
Maybe the gang can take down bad guys who may have info on Sly's whereabouts. One could possibly be a mini fight with Penelope against the gang, and maybe some other villains wanting revenge.
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Violets are blue
Why can't Sly Cooper
COME BACK PLEASE
Plezzzz come back!
Here's a few ideas I have for episode locations:
*Paris:* Just like in Sly 2, it will be a nice looking hub-world that has most of the same color-palette as the one in Sly 2. I'm not sure if it should be the first episode because that would seem lazy, but it's just an idea. The villain could be a rat. Kinda like the rat-guards that roam the area in Sly 2. I think that would be cool! The reward inside the vault of this episode could be a baguette of solid gold, which would make all coins worth double (Just like Muggshot's Coin in Sly 4).
*Big City (New York?):* We haven't really seen any real big city locations in any of the games. The closest we have is the prologue in Sly 4, or Mesa City in Sly 1. A big city with skyscrapers, a lot of vetical map-design, as well as places with moving civillian cars. Guards could be officers, or something simillar. The villain could be some sort of business-man who has a big ego, and only thinks about his company and money and stuff like that. What animal he should be? I don't know really. The reward inside the vault could be a wrench, but I don't know what bonus it should give.
*Russia:* A large map with a semi-cold environment, like Siberia or something. Bears could be roaming around, like the ones in Nunavut Bay in Sly 2. Guards could be dogs with the traditional russian winter-hat. The villain could be a wolf with a very heavy russian accent. The reward inside the vault could be a rare bottle of... erm. Russian beverage... that would give you health-regeneration or something like that.
(May edit the comment for further ideas)
Cool ideas you got there :D Thanks for sharing!
I love the idea of Customization, that'll be cool
Glad you agree :D
I'd love for the gang's *getaway van* to be modelled after a one-of-a-kind heavily-modified and heavily-armored *2002 Ford E-350 Super Duty 4x4 dually extended-length cargo truck* with an extremely souped-up *7.3L PowerStroke V8 Turbo Diesel engine* under the hood.
I agree with you on most of that. I think that there should be a complete overhaul to the combat with the characters. I mean just think about how epic Sly and especially Murray would look with combo moves. Murray didn't even have an uppercut in the last game which was disappointing. It would only make sense that he'd get better at fighting from the wrestling he was doing at the end of Sly 4. Sly could learn different moves from Slytankhamen like the invisibility power that was another gadget that went missing from Sly 4. He could also learn how to fight with two canes (assuming Sly's cane can still split into two like it did in Sly 2). But talking about the story, I think the Clockwerk idea is great. But I think it'd be an even bigger twist if Sly met a Cooper that wasn't in the Thievius Raccoonus (no not like Bob) and instead of being a good thief like Sly, he'd be a thief with no honor and only stole for the thrill of it. I mean let's think about it realistically, not EVERY Cooper is probably an innocent Cooper. But the evil Cooper's motive is that he was not in the Thievius Raccoonus and that he was planning his revenge on the Cooper's because he felt as if he were the "True Cooper". What do y'all think?
Oooooh Sly fighting with two canes? That'd be epic. I'm with you, I'm sure there's at least one Cooper who didn't follow the same rule, perhaps stole and didn't care what damage or pain he or she caused. This reminds me of that Dark Sly video I made, someone who was exiled and wanted revenge.
VTNVIVI yes. I think it'd be a great idea. I'm sure the Thievius Raccoonus didn't have EVERY Cooper. And the combat I think could be sooo much better. I mean it's getting a little boring just tapping the square button and just tapping triangle to do a takedown slam or silent obliteration. And yeah you saw a little bit of combo type things in Sly 3 and 4 where you could charge the cane and it'd do an attack. Murray has so much potential to be this awesome brawler, I mean he is "the brawn" after all. He didn't do all of that wrestling at the end of Sly 4 for nothing you know?
Thomas Mattison i really like your idead but maybe this undocumented cooper maybe this is the cooper that stole from clockwork and started his long lasting hatred for the coopers
Okay, but didn't Tennessee Kid steal from banks...?
@@demonphysician there is honor stealing from banks .
I like the idea of Bentley using a drone in Sly 5. Along with being an upgraded version of his RC Chopper in previous games, I can see him using it for reconnaissance by allowing him to take photos.
In Sly 4 Sly went through a broken time machine at the end what if for some reason because the time machine was broken he skips through time occasionally and the Cooper Gang are chasing him down kind of like The Time Traveler's Wife where the time traveler had no ability to stop
Here's a new mechanic for the sequel:
. Double Jump
. Rail Slide
. Pressing the Circle button to turn invisible (Sly Cooper 1)
. Cane Boomerang
I wish sly got carmelita pregnant and had a baby, to add a new cooper to the cooper legacy, at the end of the game. It would be the ultimate ending. EVER!!!!
MISTA Snow That has gotta wait.
LikeABossDude does it really?
MISTA Snow I'd say a game after.
LikeABossDude fair enough
LikeABossDude just saying carmelita and sly have something special.
I also think sly copper should be the reason clockwork hates the coppers and makes the mechanic suit so he can kill sly in the future
That would be great!
Sly would live with one huge regret.
VTNVIVI thanks for replying
*Cooper(s)
it's been like 5 or 3 years! sure a metroid prime 4 teaser is cool, but a sly Cooper 5 teaser would make my life complete
Indeed.
I just found this channel and I love your takes on Sly series. Also I found kind a scary how your ideas for sequel were so similar to mine. After Sanzaru updated that they wouldn't continue to
do sequel, I started to write script of my own but being young lad back then as well as a novice writer and comic book artist I eventually dropped making it. Now that I've watched few videos of yours, my interest for continue doing it has re-ignited once more. Thanks for that boost of motivation and keep up the good work. Subbed!
Thank YOU for the kind support :D
0:00 - Looks like TGX has just uploaded his review on The N.Sane Trilogy today, are you going to watch that?
0:41 - Pretty much an open world Crash Bandicoot on PS2. Coins equal Wumpa fruit, clues are boxes, signal repeaters are checkpoint boxes, vaults are gems, treasure keys were crystals, pages of the Thievius Raccoonus that the villains had were power ups from the 3rd game, lucky charms were Aku Aku masks, Master Thief Sprints were time trials and lives were ... well lives pretty much. :P
1:04 - The attacks were really easy to avoid with regular enemies but flashlight guards ... those home in on us.
1:09 - Pretty much, yeah.
1:50 - Actually he was only playable in the racing sections and the one where you have to collect 60 computers in Clockwerk's lair. Bentley had one job in that lair where he hacks for the first time and then Carmelita doing the turret section for the first time.
2:53 - This pretty much falls in between games like Jak & Daxter which changes almost everything from Gameplay to storytelling, and games like Ratchet & Clank which makes a few new additions whilst keeping almost everything else the same.
3:01 - Don't forget Jean Bison!
3:08 - From what I heard people back in the day just didn't like the idea of exploring hubs for clues back in the 2nd game, I personally never knew a thing about clues when I first played this game, I kind of understood why fans were unhappy about that when I found out.
3:26 - That is pretty much how fans and other CZcamsrs see it; the 1st game was stealthy espionage, 2nd game was all about heists, 3rd game mostly about action.
3:36 - 2 playable characters that were new to the series and 2 villains, one from each of the previous games.
3:42 - Though the one thing I do like about this is that there were no gangs or evil organizations to face up against since the 2nd game pretty much nailed that one, it was really great to see each villain being in their own category. :)
4:00 - Unless you had a PSVITA along with that version of the game as well, then it wouldn't be a problem with the help of AR mode. :)
4:31 - That was huge improvement in my opinion since in the 2nd game you had to estimate how much loot you had to steal without knowing the value.
4:42 - I didn't mind it if it was at least done right like in Ratchet & Clank: Tools Of Destruction but ...
5:14 - It will happen because we want it!
6:11 - Don't forget they added way too much play styles in the 4th game so if they do that at least make it consistent.
6:48 - Maybe these characters will actually be useful to Sly, Gameplay wise. They could aid him if he's trying to escape the guards.
7:32 - They can do the same one from the 3rd game where you had 3 or more choices of dialogue to choose from, only this time they should make it more punishing if we choose the wrong one.
9:43 - A pretty big plot twist. :O
10:07 - That's mainly because it was great in the 2nd game where it came from and to be honest I still enjoy it to this day and age.
10:29 - Not only that but at least have a few episodes where we mostly play as either Bentley or Murray (or Carmelita) along with god character development.
10:43 - I kind of liked the idea of new playable characters like the 3rd game had, just make sure that most of the game we at least play as the main group.
11:44 - I personally want her back to redeem herself. :(
12:47 - I want that but for some reason others prefer the other art that's come up. :P
13:22 - Actually that's one thing Sanzaru Games had added to the 4th game that I like, you now have the choice to open the safe as either Sly, Bentley, Murray, Carmelita or Sly's ancestors. I'd say with the 5th game they should add bottles that will require one of the other characters to collect.
14:01 - Maybe they should add a hard mode where we'd have to play through the entire game without power ups!
15:15 - Sounds like something you'd see in Kingdom Hearts. :/
15:19 - Or both! :D
15:40 - It's called a "Shock Pistol".
15:56 - That's something that the 2nd and 3rd game did right, having enemies be more tougher as we progress so we'll need more power ups.
16:39 - You mean TGX?
17:34 - In other words; they should do what Crash Of The Titans and Mind Over Mutants did when they added costumes pretty much.
19:44 - I'm not so sure about that. :/
20:30 - An opinion I shall share! ;)
21:18 - I won't mind that, I'm up for it! :)
21:28 - Maybe you can go over what you enjoyed and what you didn't enjoy in the previous games and compare them to what you stated in this video?
21:35 - And as always; we are all happy to watch. :)
Oh he played the game nice!!!! I enjoyed reading your thoughts! I always imagine you sipping tea while analysing I don't know why XD
Yes he did play it but unfortunately to him it was all a "cash grab". Claiming that they're just exploiting people's childhoods, that it doesn't make sense to get the remake for a lot of cash when the originals are still available and are a lot cheaper. :(
I usually prefer having toast sometimes while doing this sort of stuff. ;)
For giving us so much information about sly 5 ..That means that will came out soon !.Nice video
Thanks for the support!
1. That means carmelita will get a pick pocket mod.
2. sly in new suits? does that mean armor included?
3. if they are going clue searching I got an idea for them each.
badges for carmelita
computer chips for Bentley
and winning belts or racing trophy for Murray.
4. carmelita ain't the only one for an upgrade. the gang might need them also.
5. how about a gadget cube for a gadget grid?
Cool :D
I like the idea of side quests with rewards of either cash, power ups/abilities, or permanent passive bonuses like faster movement or increased coins
Yeah :D
In Sly 4 Carmelita realized she and Sly were both fighting crime, just on opposite sides of the law....insinuating she'd be more open to the idea of joining forces. Only she doesn't like that the things Sly takes originally belonged to innocent citizens, whether he got them from a thief or not- this is the one thing that could still distance them. I wonder if after everyone is back together.....Sly will be willing to make a huge change to the nature of his thieving. Like, the gang stealing the other thieves' plunder only to bring it to Carmelita so that she can return it to the original owners, rather than keeping and selling it. They would start a new and even more honorable era in the Cooper legacy.
Thanks for sharing :D
In terms of story, I just want Sly to eventually come back to the present.
In terms of gameplay, I would like Sly, Bentley, Murray, and Carmelita (& probably Slytenkamen) playable but improved from the past installments.
Yes well said!
Omg If they could put carmilita in a long white dress with rose prints that would BE AMAZING TO MEEE!!! XD
Kagome Fox XD
lol!!!
I could imagine her having a mission where she would have to disguise herself :)
WHAT IF:
Bentley, murray and carmelita had one own mission in the start what they were doing like carmelita had a disguise mission and bentley and murray had somekind of robbery mission where you need to steal parts for a new time machine
Sly 5 could be released alongside the Sly Cooper TV Series next year, similar to how Skylanders Academy and Imaginators were released. Also Sony is wanting to have a European Playstation based event this year either Gamescom or Paris Games Week, I just found this interesting since Sony skipped both events in 2016, the same year that the Sly movie was going to release. After Sony announcing the Sly Cooper TV Series and to be developed in France, now they want another European based Playstation event. So, we could see a trailer and/or announcement for Sly 5 and/or Sly Cooper TV Series at one of these events. Then there's SDCC 2017 at the end of the month and PSX 2017 in December
Blue Knight Lego Productions is the tv series actually confirmed?
www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-14-playstation-and-technicolor-working-on-sly-cooper-tv-series This site is one of the sites that confirm the Tv Series, Blockade Entertainment CEO, Brad Foxhoven even retweeted this article saying ``And so we announce! Now you know! :)". Even IGN has written a short article on it. My estimate for release is Fall 2018, because it took about a year to release Sonic Boom after it was announced by the same animation company, Technicolor Animation Productions.
i would love to see co-op mission where instead of one person playing the game 2 people can play and work together.
amazing video
It could be fun! Thanks for watching and for the support :D
Biggest plot twist sly is slyton common that would be the greatest plot twist ever, and how Bentley and Murray gets to know where sly is, is by Bentley finding a hyroglyphic on a wall in Egypt. Like their first hiest the cookie jar.
A bootstrap paradox, I made a video actually.
Aldo talking about clockwork, I would like to see Penelope reconstructing clockwork and make him fight ancient clockwork, that would be cool
Or just come after Sly.
VTNVIVI or that
I always thought it would be really cool if there was a choice of operations, like 2 or 3 per level. That would add huge replayability without having to make a bunch of new maps and vilians
Thanks for watching!
And that Clockwork Eye, in Sly 4, that kinda shows a brainstorm, Clockla was not completely destroyed by the hate chip.
Neyla was digitized, if she were still alive I'd imagine a computer catching her data.
It'd be amazing to see audio van cooper as you help him he could put upgrades on the van like in sly one but make have some backup parts in case something gets off
I never played any of these games but there used to be this guy who went to my house everyday (and brought a console)mto play there.there was a slycooper game but I forgot with one
Cool :D
There is still hope for sly cooper 5
#FreeSlyFromEgypt
Clockwerk looks like vulture from Spider-Man Homecoming.
Clockwerk/Vulture Combine
Sweet!
I know right :D
Sly Cooper, or Carmalita Montoya Fox would have an adventure with different costumes. Which gives her different abilities.
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I cannot wait to see the opening cutscene of Sly 5. If Genevieve Tsai gets rehired, it will be great.
Genevieve Tsai!!!! I like her art style :)
What about this the tomb that Sly's ancestor stays in has a secret entrance that only the ancestor can get in(there is magic in the game so there is magical traps) and sly finds the entrance and gets in and meets the ancestor and sly has to explain how he got in. So Sly also explains he is a cooper and how he got there. And so Sly asked his ancestor if he has a book that is meant for the coopers. So they go to get the book and when they open up where the book is held and the book was gone so the ancestor ask if he can go get it back and when sly ends up getting the book back he writes a message to Bentley telling him where he is.
Interesting scenario :)
I was gonna say what if the Pharoah was clockwork and slyton being one of his bodyguards, it could be the reason why clockwork has a grudge on the coopers.
But why all of them? What made him turn this crazy? Was he under the influence of some crazy dark sorcerer, brainwash?
Maybe clockwork didn’t know who was the person that was the source of it all , hence going down the list, and when he did go down the list and it kept going he realized it was sly which he never got hence leading to the final showdown
Good idea.
Thanks scrappy doo
Glad you enjoyed!
Hey vv! Im new to the sly channel community =D i love ur videos dude!
Welcome :D Thank you for the support!
;D yep!
I kind of always wished for the _Sly Cooper_ series, as a whole, to be more of a *first-person stealth-based, 3D-platforming, action-adventure, open-world, crime thriller shooter game series,* with elements of *_GoldenEye 007_** (1997; 2023),* *_Perfect Dark_** (2000, 2010),* the *_Halo_** series (2001-present),* the 3D open-world *_Grand Theft Auto_** series (2001-present),* the *"Metal Gear Solid" series (1998-2015),* various *Tom Clancy games* such as *_Rainbow Six,_* *_Splinter Cell_* and *_Ghost Recon_** (2003-present)* and maybe some *_Battlefield_** (2002-present).*
What I mean by that is that much of the gameplay would be in a *first-person perspective* (the camera following the action from the visual perspective of Sly, Murray, Bentley, and even Carmelita), while still retaining the classic gameplay formula (stealth, stealing from other thieves, etc.), but also allowing the player access to *firearms (handguns, machine guns, shotguns, rifles, rocket launchers, grenades, etc.)* on the field -- *silenced* or not -- like in _Grand Theft Auto_ (the *game series,* I mean; not the real-world *felony charge* for *auto theft),* for instance; particularly with Sly, not just Carmelita.
In terms of *gameplay mechanics* (including *controller congifuration),* it'd be dedicated to a typical *F.P.S. game (First-Person Shooter)* in most certain scenarios.
For instance, when Sly uses his *Binoc-u-com* to make calls to Bentley or scope out the surrounding area for what lies ahead, he could also use it as a *targeting scope* mounted onto a powerful, high-caliber *sniper rifle* -- be it either *semi-automatic (i.e., an M21 marksman rifle)* or *bolt-action (i.e., a Remington Model 700 or a Barrett M82/107A1 .50-Cal heavy sniper rifle),* depending on the player's weapon loadout -- ...to pick off targets anywhere from the waist up from a distance, even ones with *body armor,* as the sheer damage of the bullet of whichever sniper rifle you're using can bring them down in in little as *just one shot from the waist up.*
Just be sure you bring a *silencer* with you; otherwise, you're gonna attract a lot of attention.
Hmm.... I like how it is currently. One thing I'd love is RPG elements.
@@VtnVivi I'd rather it be more of an open-world *F.P.S.,* if you ask me.
- "F.P.S." = *First-Person Shooter*
My brother and I have been playing the uncharted series recently, and I think that kind of gameplay is very enjoyable. It all lines up pretty closely with what you're saying in your video. It'd be really nice to have a Sly 5 done like this!
Glad you agree!
I hope there is a big fight where you have to use a couple ancestors from different timelines at the same time to beat a boss!
Sven vanhaelemeersch i hope its like sly 3 with the lemonade bar mission like him and his gang vs the villains
We kinda had that in Sly 4. Now Matt Kraemer, if I'm not mistaken, would've preferred that after looking back. But it's still risky, one ancestor could die and corrupt the timeline.
thats true
They need to bring sly BACK TO THE FUTURE!
Aha I see what you did there.
Cant wait for the movie and game
The movie is currently on hold, I wouldn't get my hopes up :(
YAAAS ben waiting for da vid aye mate thx
No problem mate!
we need a god damn clockwork episode!!!! we need to play as the howl of our dark hearts!!!!!
I wouldn't imagine Clockwerk playable, but we do need more backstory.
VTNVIVI I'm not talking about robot clockwork, I'm talking about playing as him in Egypt along sly and the ancestor witch I can't spell the name
first: clockwerk was already a giant robot back in the ice age. second: i still think Sly Cooper 5's story should be split among 2 games mostly because carmalita, bentley, and murray need to have much longer gameplay. and the best way for that to happen is to give carmalita, bentley, and murray their own game they runs parallel to sly 5 which would be all about sly trying to find a way to alert the gang when he is and at least try to find what he could do from his end with Slytankhaman, Slytankhaman II, and Slytankhaman III, whom could be a family team, (Slytankhaman III maybe being the youngest being maybe 10 yrs old. meaning a bit more speedier and more of a risk taker than his father and grandfather, whos biggest accomplishments were building a safe and writing a book in his eyes, giving a nice dose of character development for him as you play the game.) third: the bosses i see that could be in the game set in the present, in no particular order, could be Toothpick's Ghost who tries to seek revenge for being trapped in the past, Muggshot since he seems to appear in every other game, the Grizz who is given some stolen magic papyrus scrolls by an unknown figure, and thus can bring his art to life, Penelope who had been driven mad by a vision shes been trying to bring to fruition involving another magical egyptian artifact called Horus's Eye, which in a bit of a convoluted backstory could explain why penelope betrayed bentley, too be honest it would be better than the explanation they gave in sly4 regardless. Dark sly who was the mysterious figure who stole the papyrus scrolls and is basically around trying to trap our sly in the past by having all the egyptian relics destroyed, his existance being possible with the help of Nefertiti's mirror which can release the evil in ones self, and clockwerk as he tries to travel to the present which would run parrallel with the final boss battle for sly as he finally gets back home in his game.
so basically the final boss battle in both games would be against clockwerk which would run parrallel to each other
Trust me, if the Sly series was HUGE, I'd imagine a bunch of games building up to the conclusion. Now Clockwerk in 10 000 BC was an easter egg, perhaps has no meaning at all or Clockwerk originated from the future. I would love spin offs, especially Carmelita. Her game would explain Neyla more for example. Thanks for taking the time to write all this, I enjoyed reading!
VTNVIVI that is a cool idea for a Carmalita spinoff involving Neyla. and also the way i have the story structured for the possible Present half of sly 5 could give several villains a full redemption or temporary truce in order to try and bring Sly back home. as i mentioned in your Panda King video comments, i see Miss Ruby possibly getting a redemption and killed off in Sly 5 as away to truly show that she has changed. because she her knowledge of the dead could be the only way to stop Toothpick's ghost from causing mayhem. and her final words would lead Carmalita, Bentley and murray, to New York City where they could reunite with The Guru who has sensed a dark energy somewhere close to the museum where the papyrus scrolls were stolen. which is where all the art the Grizz brought to life is patrolling and acting as his new guards. after defeating Grizz he reveals that someone gave him the scrolls and that he had nothing to do with the theft. which gives him a lighter sentence just before bentley gets another postcard from penelope who managed to hijack Bentley's Lab, and in her boss battle will call herself the Black Pharoah due to the madness inducing vision shes been trying to bring to fruition taking her overthanks to Horus's Eye. and the vision she got was Bentley proposing after she created an unknown invention that she didnt get a chance to see before it cut out. a dumb explanation but better than what we got in Sly 4. and it would be revealed that she was given the Eye sometime when she was helping bentley make the time machine. and these are just some of the ideas
The ancestors I want to see are Thaddeus Winslow Cooper III and Henriette "One Eye" Cooper. For Thaddeus, we can see other ways of being a thief in a more unique way and Henriette we can learn a bit on Clockwork.
Cool!
Well for Sly Cooper 5 Gameplay and Mechanics, the rendering should be in Thieves in Time version with the same idle animation and design from Sly 4. Plus we need an fighting upgrade for Sly, Murray, and Carmelita. Sly should fight harder when you attack a guard so you can't get hurt and when you're in a cutscene when Sly and The Gang fights a bunch of Henchman, it should make you play as Sly. And for Murray, when you hit the square button to punch, he should do a jab and uppercut. And for Carmelita, when you hit the square button to attack, she should not swing her shock pistol, she has to use her kick boxing skills to punch really hard on the bad guys and you can still use her shock pistol to shoot. And for Costumes, their should be costumes for Sly, Bentley, Murray, and Carmelita: The Original Sly Cooper costume from the old sequel games where Sly doesn't have his small backpack and Sly Cooper TV Series Costume for Sly, The Original Bentley Costume from the 3rd Sly Cooper Game where Bentley is wearing a bicycle helmet and Sly Cooper TV Series Bentley,The Original Murray Costume from the old sequel games where Murray is wearing a scarf, red mask that doesn't have an arrow on his top head, and white or grey with no shoe laces, and Sly Cooper TV Series Murray Costume for Murray, The Original Carmelita Costume where she wears a blue jumpsuit pants and the Sly Cooper TV Series Carmelita. So that's what I wanted for Sly Cooper 5 Gameplay and Mechanics
Yay I'm glad you love the outfits idea :D I would also love for our gang to get new moves and all!
Exactly. When you're in a cutscene with Sly and the Gang together and a bunch of bad guys pop up, you can play as Sly, including when the cutscenes are showing Sly with Bentley, Sly with Murray, and Sly with Carmelita and you can play as Sly so we can have Sly hit a bad guy with new moves so the bad guy won't hit you back while hitting him
As you were talking about clockwork being a good guy. What IF clockwork could be a playable character in Sly Cooper 5??? Maybe, maybe not. Who knows. That would be very cool playing a immortal villian in Sly 1 and 2. And also during the first video of these video. What I imagined, Sly going through Egypt and then having flashbacks of the past where you play as Sly in the past. Well if you would imagine it how I was thinking of, this would make more sense
Yes I'm a very late commenter lol
Flashback to the orphanage and making it playable would be SWEET! As for Clockwerk being playable, maybe for a small segment, of course this is good Clockwerk we speak of.
I bet it's going to be like GTA 5 with its game progression. They take everything that was good with San Andreas and GTA 4 into GTA 5 with more MMO to it.
SlC 5 will contain SlC 2 with the MMO, customizations, and the story detailing... hopefully.
i 100% agree with you and i really want everything to happen!
Glad you agree :D
very interesting indeed nice discussion
Glad you enjoyed it :D
In ancient Egypt we could have a black market that sly buys gadgets from
I could picture that!
I'd love to have Penelope be a villain again. She needs to be put in her place. :P
I wouldn't mind!
Activision's been having a lot of success from the Crash and Spyro remasters... surely they'll take the hint and keep going down the same path with Sly, though I think they might do a complete remaster of the original 3 in 4K animation (kind of like the cancelled Sly movie) first before we see a sequel to Thieves in Time.
We're all just craving anything Sly at this point :P
I want Clockwerk to be like he was in Sly 2 but with upgraded look and equipments and bigger. Also, Carmelita has a shock pistol, not a laser gun. Even tho the bullets look more like electric charged plasma.
I would like Clockwerk to look more anthropomorphic, not saying he isn't already but have more of a human figure like Sly and everyone else. Shock Pistol heheh ok :P
Hay there, I'm a new subscriber and just wanted to say that your ideas for Sly Cooper 5 were pretty good. The only thing I'm not fully interested in was the ability to upgrade the characters. No offense to you of corse, I just feel as if it would be to much like other, newer games. But I still loved the video! Thanks for your view of things!
Thanks for watching! Everyone has different opinions :)
I like to see sly 5 soon
You and everyone.
We need a difficulty option, like easy, médium, hard, expert and after that that mode where you start back with everything you had before (I forgot the therm).
Hmm... The difficulty could have to do with enemy A.I, expert would make the guards very smart. Of course, difficulty can also be damage dealt.
PGS Entertainment and Technicolor, the companies the Sly Cooper TV Show is also partnering to make a new show scheduled for 2018 called Team Dronix. So Sly Cooper's TV debut could be in Fall 2018 alongside Sly 5. Also another site claims that the Sly Cooper movie is releasing next year 2018, which is highly doubtful. Here are links to the pages. kidscreen.com/2017/07/06/technicolors-drone-series-flies-with-france-televisions-gloob/
www.filmaffinity.com/en/film188533.html
maybe the mini clockwerks in sly 4 where made by neila with the remaining parts that were left from clockla
I don't think Neyla is the type of brain person.
VTNVIVI but that is exactly why she would partner with Penelope . it could have been like an evil female sly and bentley
I like what your thinking and what if Bently Murry and Carmelita get help from the guru from sly 3 to help them find sly
The Guru was interesting :)
Hell yeah I wanna play Sly Cooper 5 when it comes out
We all want that don't we :P
Omg so far this is what i wanna play .-. Its great
Awesome!
I understand the cartoony feel of all of the old games. I understand why people love it. But I think Sly 5 could be much better graphics and animation. I think it could look more like a AAA game. It would fit.
I'd love a Sly game to go CG!!!!! They could implement comic style cutscenes too!
Without having finished the video I'm going to say I hope you want to bring the playable characters from Sly 3 back.
I did not mention that, but that'd be sweet too.
Wouldn’t it be cool if Sly let Slytunkamen keep the cane and Bentley made Sly a new cane with magnets and stuff.
I'd love a more modernized cane!!!!! Kinda like a bit RPG where you can switch between different styles, each with a perk.
Lot of good stuff here. However I have doubts they would make it this good.
I wish they would make it good, it means a lot that you think so :D
I'm glad to hear that VTNVIVI If I was in charge of making the game. This would be what I would do. I know I'm just a commenter on CZcams and stuff but would you be interested in doing a Video or heck a Skype conversation? I have this amazing R&C Plot idea.
I actually have discord, which I haven't used much yet. I'll keep this in mind!
Sweet yea I have Discord.
It would be interesting to see what the series would be like if the episodes didn't have EVERY villain in it, but wouldn't it take away the narrative of what the story is trying to tell?
Ghoul Dash No villains. no boss fight.
They could add villains, but not for every single episode like how they usually do. Look at Jak and Ratchet, not every planet or mission had a villain just saying :P We don't need villains in each episode to make it great. I think this is the risk they should take.
Vtnvivi
i agree with everything in this video and i like your videos
Glad you agree with everything :D
My favorite weapon is Ratchet's Wrench.
You can do Part 3 on this video.
Awsome vid!
Thanks :D
Okay, see u Tuesday :)
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If sly cooper is lost in time and his staff is with Bentley dose that mean they can use sly staff to transport to sly like when sly transport to sly coopers ancestry
Sly's cane is with him. If Bentley had his cane, it could maybe take them to ancient Egypt if Sly's cane was the original key to the vault. Think about it, what if all his ancestors had Sly's cane as a simple key to the vault?
nice work
Thank you :D
Hey vivi I was wondering if you can gime an opinion on what do you think about my idea for a Sly Cooper 5, I actually dreamed this once so I decided to write it so I wont forget it :D hehe ok, my idea was, what if! The next game instead of you using Sly, you end using Carmelita the fox? Since the last game ended on a cliff hanger then the next game could be a story about finding Sly after years, they can even change up the name of the game but still being a continuation, the only difference is going to be the main character witch is Carmelita cause for me, it kinda makes sense after all that's what I Dreamed of hehe! The gameplay will probably be really different cause of the change of character and the game will help her out as well! But anyway what do you think? That's pretty much what I dreamed and I feel it sounds pretty good! I know it's not Sly your playing as but the concept of the idea sounds really interesting, and it could definitely make sense since it's been years that we haven't had a new game, changing up the formula would make sense after years.
Thank you for sharing! I like the idea of Carmelita playable, but I think Sly should be playable still. What you're saying sounds like more of a spin off. We could have alternating episodes like mentioned in the video :D
If Penelope brings back Clockwork, what about Constable Neyla, will she still take over as Clockla?
Clockwerk will be back, Neyla is presumed dead right now. If she were alive, she wouldn't have access to Clockwerk's mech.
I want a sly cooper movie outfit its just perfect with the pants and back boots
The outfit is sick!
Hi VV bro,hey cool video there bro . I wish sly 5 will come very soon.I love sly Cooper series.If they bring back sly Cooper series. They should add some more graphics, what do you think.Anyway,Thanks for this video and Nice thoughts about gadget grid and outfits and thanks again
Thank you for watching means a lot! As for graphical changes, I'd expect that to happen to a reboot. I'd imagine CGI like Ratchet & Clank. As for Sly 5, they'll stick to the usual cel shaded style.
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The Guru, when you get the staff piece in Arabia's safe, it says that you might run into the Guru again to fix his staff, but get less damage by enemies for now, could that flash a lightbulb in the head.
I did point this out in the Guru theory vid!
My favorite sly is 2 the best one in my opinion
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Sly cooper is gonna comming out 2020 dec. 31❤️❤️❤️
No such thing.
Lmaooo nah too bad though
Am I the only one who thinks Rajan is just using the carpet store as a cover for his spice trade?
I always thought the credits scenes were a lie for some reason...
BIG BIG BIG idea, what if sly was the ancestor, he started the thevious racoonus.
Like a bootstrap paradox you mean? I did talk about this in an older video :)
Yeah.
Ya, to carmelita. She needs him.
you forgot to mention that Sly 3 had costumes too
Redbandit yeah. but not all the gang got costume changes.
Yes Sly did have a mission like that, but it was just a mission. What I imagine is having an actual outfit you can wear throughout the whole game just for fun.
Wait if the person who started the thievies racoonis if they put it in time machine won't they go there
Sly game makers take notes
Could Ancient Egypt be before the times Clockwork hated the Cooper Clan.
Yes! He could have been friends with Slytunkhamen. Eventually in that timeline, something triggered him.
I think Egyptians used the drachma
I think that Sly should meet his parents. He would be disguised and all that but he have access to a time machine! Look at his parents one last time and then building a family with Carmelita in the present would be the perfect ending. Penelope as villain again it's lame. I want her to apologise for what she did. If she finds Sly in the past, Bentley will forgive her sooner or later. Clockwerk will return! I know it. Raileigh is a Genius. He is capable of rebuid his "old friend" There is no need of Penelope to bring Clockwerk back. This would be unforgiveble. But, assuming that she is a criminal with allies on thiefnet she could know something about Clockwerk rebirth. Maybe this is the motivation to search for Sly. Defeat the Immortal owl! Clockwerk is a Dangerous person. Sly will need all the help he can get assuming that Clockwerk will reborn stronger and looking for revenge.
Raleigh should have to escape from prison. Honestly if Dr. M is alive, I wouldn't be surprised. Out of everything, I want the bird to return as well.
I rly love this guy talking and i totally agree with What he told. But did you ever though that sanzaru is already writing the story?
Means a lot thanks for the support! I wonder that too actually :P
VTNVIVI i rly love the sly cooper games, it's the only game i rly about and you rly made me have hope that sly 5 Will be out. Btw i have some theories about the game i would like to share
they should make sly 5 like GTA 5 and switch characters whenever you want. like if you agree 😁
Jeffrey Root tbh sly has been like since sly 2
Sly Cooper is a small PlayStation Franchise
It is really, simply underrated! Hopefully the TV will bring in an new audience.
what if the coper gang gose back to the time lines from sly 4 and try to find him thare
That's what they'll try to do ultimately!
I love sly 4 because you can have rachet's weapon
Parrapa the rapper Fan The gameplay was really good. But the story was decent to me. But the sly cooper fans did not like it.
what are you expecting us to fight garuga