Installing subframe back onto 1969 Firebird

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  • čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
  • Installing a completely assembled subframe at home by yourself can be done without any damage to the paint. How to get it lined up and fitted without any specialty tools.
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Komentáře • 104

  • @user-fk5dl6cs3q
    @user-fk5dl6cs3q Před 2 měsíci +4

    I'm always amazed at the confidence you have with these projects. I know it's not your first time around the block, but I'm still impressed. Great job!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thanks a bunch! I still learn something every time I build a car.

  • @mckjew
    @mckjew Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wow his content is good! Thanks so much for all the time and effort you put in. I'm building a 69 bird for my 7yr old son now!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      You will be the coolest dad ever. Best wishes on your build and maybe he will let you drive it a bit before he can.

  • @JK_Nex_Garage
    @JK_Nex_Garage Před 2 měsíci +1

    We will definitely be using these techniques on our Firebird when it comes time. ✌️

  • @ronmerkle3696
    @ronmerkle3696 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Coming together nicely

  • @firstgenerationgarage2803
    @firstgenerationgarage2803 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wow what an excellent video you did here Brother this will be helpful to a lot of bird builders thank you for sharing your knowledge my brother you are one gifted soul

  • @user-ic4hn3qx7r
    @user-ic4hn3qx7r Před 2 měsíci +4

    Great way to use a common tool most everyone has, deep well 7/16" socket, to help align the body. Good job on the 1/4" fuel return line routing. Your method worked out great.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +3

      That is the goal here use tools we most likely have and save money to invest into other needed items instead.

  • @berniebjornsen9656
    @berniebjornsen9656 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome camera work and skills,,i sure do miss my 68 bird,I put alot of garage work into that one,,i remember hammer and dolly with the fender on my lap in the grass

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Very cool! I started working from my parents back yard I didnt have a garage then nor money now I think about it. 🤣

  • @bradsrestorations1085
    @bradsrestorations1085 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good work, Jon! You are a 1 man crew!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +2

      I appreciate that! I like the challenge of getting it done in a small space

  • @Maverick54
    @Maverick54 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Fantastic work Jon

  • @philipperichard8
    @philipperichard8 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Such a cool step to the project getting the subframe back on! Feels like real progress!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +2

      I agree it’s a nice milestone for sure, starting to resemble a car again.

  • @ArrowheadGarage
    @ArrowheadGarage Před 2 měsíci +4

    Things are coming together!!!!!

  • @andersonrowland
    @andersonrowland Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great milestone, looking good!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      It really is a big step in progress to have it back on the ground.

  • @perrywe1
    @perrywe1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Super good video Jon. Very good explanation of subframe installation. Thanks buddy

  • @joeroad6618
    @joeroad6618 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very informative, nice to see it back together, on to the rear!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yup it will be a roller again very soon then body working time

  • @tommyspencer7891
    @tommyspencer7891 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Should break the 10K sub by the next video. Congrats Jon! Keep it going. Looking forward to the front end/nose assembly.

  • @davidbisnette7673
    @davidbisnette7673 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well that answered some questions on lining up subframe, thanks for taking some of the mystery out of it and the second guessing, great job

  • @drewpackard6646
    @drewpackard6646 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very good vlog John!! You make it look easy!! Keep up the good work sir!!👍🏽

  • @davidbisnette7673
    @davidbisnette7673 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sure got a cool system worked out, great work

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před měsícem +2

      It works great for me plus it’s a great way to test everything before final install

  • @phoenixblack1220
    @phoenixblack1220 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome work, Jon. I had ended up buying a fancy tool from Art Morrison, I think to locate the subframe. This was many years ago when I didn’t know any better, lol.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +2

      That tool is super handy and way easier then a tape measure and you will get a more accurate assembly when done. But how I saw it was good enough for factory good enough for me. I followed their technique sort of and done many cars this way and no alignment or panel fitment issues yet. Now if you are build a race car or touring car it would be very beneficial to get it spot on

  • @SifsSwag
    @SifsSwag Před měsícem +1

    Excellent video!

  • @keithholt4319
    @keithholt4319 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Looking like a car again! Amazing work Jon! I hope you get time to do your Dad's car and the Judge! Guessing you will be doing this Full-time soon!

  • @brian2359
    @brian2359 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Looking really good!

  • @JazenAlldredge
    @JazenAlldredge Před 19 dny +1

    Appreciate the detail! Thanks a bunch Jon

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 18 dny +1

      You bet! The details add up and doesn’t really burn up that much more time

  • @davedail8482
    @davedail8482 Před měsícem

    Great job, you make a tough job look easy. I enjoy watching the build. Can't wait until the next video.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před měsícem +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, this car will be loads of fun to drive when done. Going to miss this one too.

  • @fixinanddoinstuff2134
    @fixinanddoinstuff2134 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video

  • @jamessharp9790
    @jamessharp9790 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Outstanding work and information as always. 👊

  • @jeffclark3924
    @jeffclark3924 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi Jon, great video and appreciate your talent. I have stabbed a few Nova and Camaro subframes and referred to the Fisher body manual. I have used the alignment holes to get you close, but measuring from front to rear of the car in a cross pattern using specified hole location will put the body and subframe in a factory alignment. Much respect for all you do.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don’t disagree with dropping some measurements to the unibody from the subframe would not hurt a thing. I typically don’t as long as the fenders, hood, fan shroud all line up evenly I don’t stress to much. Now pro touring build or even an extreme drag car I feel it would be a must for the best possible launch and handling

  • @milesunderwood2380
    @milesunderwood2380 Před 2 měsíci +1

    👍👍 you made that look easy enough

  • @ParadiseBayCustoms
    @ParadiseBayCustoms Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @RandDCustoms2
    @RandDCustoms2 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video Jon. Looking forward to applying it to my car!

  • @user-hi2ev7ug4l
    @user-hi2ev7ug4l Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great job.... good content...thanks🔧👍

  • @rajcam80
    @rajcam80 Před 2 měsíci +1

    As always great content! Well done my friend.

  • @woodrowdelozier1
    @woodrowdelozier1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You're almost to 10,000 subs. Awesome job Jon 🫶💪😎

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +2

      So close! I bet by this weekend I will hit it.

    • @woodrowdelozier1
      @woodrowdelozier1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@VinylVillageGarage I sure hope so. You're doing great things

  • @charlieschwab3399
    @charlieschwab3399 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Almost 10K Jon !!

  • @timpsensky5181
    @timpsensky5181 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I ran into the same trans cooler adapter problem on my 72 corvette with an aftermarket aluminum radiator.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I suppose it’s a give and take kind of thing. The aluminum cools better and way cheaper than the copper but I have to deal with looking at the adapters. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Chevchild
    @Chevchild Před 2 měsíci +2

    Good work Jon. Your not a never seize guy? I'm taken aback 😮

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +2

      My dad is he loves that silver stuff, i am on the fence. It’s so messy most of the time. It gets everywhere! I use it occasionally, for me I don’t feel these cars will ever see the salt and weather ever again so the potential for a bolt rusting or getting seized in place is slim. Plus I really doubt this car will ever come back apart by the time it’s decayed it will be so old parts and heck internal combustion engines will be obsolete.

  • @scottylimpin9177
    @scottylimpin9177 Před 2 měsíci +1

    First comment & like 😎
    Fast just like the progress on the restoration 🔥

  • @user-br1mq7wy2m
    @user-br1mq7wy2m Před 2 měsíci +1

    Another great video Jon. Thanks so much for taking the time to document and share all the tips and tricks. Your giving me much needed confidence and inspiration to resume the restoration of my 68 convertible 400 4 speed I bought 42 years ago at the age of 19. Just a thought on the flare adapter fitting...
    If you simply painted it black it might disappear? At least the bright brass finish wouldn't be so obvious.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      You might be onto something with the black paint. It would tone it down so they don’t stand out for sure

    • @user-br1mq7wy2m
      @user-br1mq7wy2m Před měsícem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage I'll be looking for the blacked out brass fittings on the radiator in upcoming videos!

  • @FE428Power
    @FE428Power Před 2 měsíci +1

    The description for those adjustable stands says 6000lbs each!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I have no worries about using them personally but the world of liability says not for this use. You at your own risk So I suppose it’s a disclaimer. I do appreciate you sharing the idea. Made putting the subframe back on even easier

  • @chevyfan82
    @chevyfan82 Před 2 měsíci +1

    👍

  • @stevenpringle7813
    @stevenpringle7813 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I aligned my subframe in the same manner except I only used the alignment holes and dowel to get it close. I didn't trust them to make it square. I measured the sides of the subframe to the rocker pinch welds and also measure from the tails of the subframe in a triangle back to the front of the rear frame, as well as straight back to the rear frame. I also measure the track length from the center of the rear wheels to the center of the front wheels on both sides. I used all of these measurement and adjusted them all so that they all agreed with each other. I found that the dowel method did not get it close enough on it's own. I don't know much about this stuff, but it's just the way I did it. You mentioned the long branch manifolds. Did you get any update from Ram Air Restorations? I keep meaning to call again but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don’t disagree with checking the measurements like you did, won’t hurt a thing. And for the manifolds no word yet, i haven’t called in over a month, I figured I would hear something from the Firebird community once that they become available again

    • @stevenpringle7813
      @stevenpringle7813 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage I will call him tomorrow or Friday.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci

      @@stevenpringle7813 right on. Good luck I hope they start making them I will need another set myself

  • @brian2359
    @brian2359 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I meant to ask, who made that radiator?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci

      eBay special. I like that is is as thick as a 4 core copper but being aluminum it should cool a lot better
      www.ebay.com/itm/301464884391?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Fi7wEaVXQUO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=BN_aheTVQma&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @johnhowardesq
    @johnhowardesq Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesomeness. When can I order one?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not sure yet, funny you ask. What are you or people willing to pay for a car like this? Depending on that amount makes it plausible to build and sell cars for a full time job. If you figure 900 hours labor and 30k in parts plus the car cost to start with to make it worth while the price is around $80,000 plus depending on how fancy you want to go.

    • @keithholt4319
      @keithholt4319 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Pretty inexpensive for one of these cars done to this degree!!

  • @raystomberski4480
    @raystomberski4480 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Did you buy or make the body holder to tilt it on its side or buy it

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Home made, works best on convertibles does fine with a coupe but a little too heavy, not tipping hazard just a little more work to get it back over center to let it down. Here is a link to video and at the end has the plans to build one
      Flipping the bird, making more room in a small work space and access to the underbody
      czcams.com/video/iqM0Gov4ZNE/video.html

  • @hoody442
    @hoody442 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Just curious if you decided on an electronic kickdown switch yet?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not yet. I like the one the parts place sells it is very close to original the other option is a micro switch that mount on the left rear of the carb that works off the secondaries.

    • @tommyspencer7891
      @tommyspencer7891 Před 2 měsíci

      @@VinylVillageGarage B&M makes a kickdown switch that connects to the throttle lever on the carb. I had to make a bracket for the switch that mounted just below the throttle cable bracket. The microswitch is my back up plan.

    • @hoody442
      @hoody442 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage don’t buy the one from the parts place. I did and it is just a cheap version of a brake light switch. I first used the Lokar setup, but I found a plunger style micro switch I want to install in the factory mount on the carb. Mine is a 68 without ram air though.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @hoody442 hey good to know thanks for the input. I think I will go with the micro switch on the carb linkage

    • @hoody442
      @hoody442 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage I would like to see how you do that you crafty devil!

  • @jct300m
    @jct300m Před 2 měsíci +1

    This "Bird" is a Column shift?..

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Nope floor shifter with center console. It has the transmission lock out linkage that ties into the steering column. That was new for 1969 model year

  • @charlieseidelmann6702
    @charlieseidelmann6702 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Way too easy!