Exploring the SCP Foundation: SCP-6659 - Metagnostic
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When the statement "to destabilize a given deific entity's embodied meme-plex within the noosphere" didn't sound like scientific mumbo jumbo, and you actually understood it, means you've fallen down the SCP rabbit hole quite a ways.
Help all the jargon makes sense I've gone too far
Hehe meme
I legit love that feeling lmao
As an aside, can I just say how much I personally hate the term "Deific Entity"?
It an entirely redundant term that has no extra meaning over Deity or even just God. It just screams of trying too hard to make something sound sciencey or academic and it's just kinda disappointing because I love the concepts being played with here.
If you aren't gonna just use the term Deity, which would have been fully appropriate mind you, you could have gone with "Mythopoeic Entity" instead, drawing on then alternate meaning of Mythopeia used in some circles to describe how gods are shaped and born from human belief. This would dodge the god bullet this article seems so scared of *and* be a good description of the concept.
But really, if you're talking about literal gods, just used the damn word. If you know gods exists you aren't gonna terminologically pussyfoot around talking about them. That'd be like going out your way to replace all instances of the word dog or Canis domesticus on the wiki with "Canine Biological Entity" it's just silly.
I have very similar complaints about lots of the technobabble on the wiki. At least think about your terminology before you use it.
@@Ezekiel_Allium there's another term for gods in the wiki:
Apex Tier Pluripotent Entity
The line "in simple words, it kills gods good" is now in my favorite Exploring Series line.
It’s a pretty good line, but I don’t think anything comes close to “We’ve gone full anime now”
@@Bush_Dude yeah, first thing I thought of. Anything before that I’m forgotten
7:39 Killed me when I heard it, such serious tones and terms then that, chefs kiss.
Something's anime and Alto Clef there.
?@@Bush_Dude where is it from? I can imagine scp big robot catgirls or something like that
“Grave implications be damned” is the most foundation quote i’ve ever heard
"Prepare for Unforseen Consequences"
Its brilliant. It should be the fortune 500s motto.
Foundation based as always
"Let's start erasing gods on a conceptual level."
"Great idea! I'm sure meddling with reality to that degree couldn't possibly have any unforeseen consequences."
"Shooting enough holes in the collective subconscious of humanity to make it look like a particularly ratty piece of swiss cheese won't cause issues, surely."
Alzheimer's? Who could have foreseen this?
Every time Placeholder McDoctorate is brought up, I think of an actively sapient wooden doll in the exact design of the most Average looking adult man possible in an SCP uniform
My mental image of Placeholder McDoctorate is pretty much Father from Kids Next Door, when he is not covered in Shadows.
I always think of him as a normal dude but his face and other identifying features are blurred irl. His identifiers such as height, weight, and hair color are unable to be described or remembered accurately and though his voice isn't able to be recognised as different from another's, it is definite that he's good at what he does.
So now we made the god of the average man. Hermes I guess it is.
Stock photo researcher.
You ever seen that photoshop of like one older white dude shopped onto a bunch of other older white dudes and you have to look twice to even notice? It’s like that, to me.
At the part where they de-conceptualize the Scarlet King and had a thought: If they're wrong about what gods actually are, or even wrong about a specific entity's true nature, they could just be making extremely powerful and malicious entities effectively undetectable and impossible to fight.
That makes me think about SCP 6820, and how 682 was able to become perfect after being ejected from the noosphere (don't know if that's how you spell it) and finding its missing part in the anti-noosphere. What if the foundation or someone similar did just that, which is how we got SCP 682?
@@readerforlife7292 noosphere
@@MitruMesre thanks!
@@MitruMesre noasphere
@@readerforlife7292 I think it’s the knowosphere but I’m not sure.
"Should we stop messing with powers beyond our comprehension?......No, it is for the good of mankind."
-SCP Foundation, starting _yet another_ series of events that would lead to the apocalypse.
Must be a really common theme in the 6000-6999 skips.
GOC is just watching and laughing as they screw up yet again.
Honestly, with the many times The Foundation pulls off a project or experiment that inadvertently results in major consequences that lead to the end of humanity, the world, or even the entire universe. It makes you wonder if we’re actually better off without The Foundation!
@@michaelandreipalon359 Well it's not actually that common, just some of the famous one did this.
I don't see an apocalypse coming from this one, based on the reading (maybe it's in the article itself, I dunno). This seems more like it could actually lead to a paradigm shift that could potentially be in humanity's favor, assuming that the entity Blake fed himself to was actually associated with humanity itself, and not just with him specifically (which was a core unscientific assumption on his part when he decided to shove himself into the machine). The fact that the god was described as a "tumor" certainly sounds bad, but a tumor is after all just a maladaption of the natural growth process of organic flesh; they are what happens when flesh grows beyond control and loses homeostasis with the greater organism. In theory, medical technology may someday be capable of reversing that state, so that cancerous cells turn back into healthy ones; by the same token, perhaps this cancer-god could be re-engineered into a healthy one. I'm rooting for Promethium to work as intended, even if these things very rarely go according to plan; after all, we mostly hear about the ones that don't, because those are the ones that make interesting stories. "Happily ever after" is a boring outcome, if you aren't fortunate enough to actually live within it.
Fun fact: this article is the third installment of the "ADMONITION" series, with the previous two installments being SCP-6820 ("TERMINATION ATTEMPT") and SCP-6747 ("CHAOS THEORY"). There are planned to be no less than _seven_ further installments, with the writers and general concepts for the whole series already picked out.
This is gonna be a wild ride.
I thought this was part of the 55555 canon?
Damn does that mean I'll have to go back to 6747 and understand it?
@@DGGB-- nein... phase 2 is where it all connects
More like a boring ride. These artsy "high concept" SCPs are the reason the fandom is dead.
@@user-nx6lv8uy4s cry about it
SCP Foundation: "Hm yes, building a machine to kill gods, what could go wrong?"
Cosmic Starfish: "Looks like this is a Job for me!"
followed by "I'm of sound body and mind, acting of my own will. Imma stick my head in there."
Go figure the fifth encompasses the four...
Goddamn starfish
Yes I too love removing parts of peoples brains.
I holy see what you did there.
Except for the incident at Site 13 that universe contained deities pretty well and without consequence
I swear to god, Placeholder McDoctorate is an anomaly himself who is writing himself into every new scp article. How long before he joins the O5? Becomes the administrator? Starts writing his own SCP fanfic featuring himself? This man is too powerful.
See: SCP-6146
An alternative version of placeholder is promoted to O5-6
Given that Placeholder McDoctorate specializes in Pataphysics iirc, you might not be too far off.
@@MrCardz He's a some form of head of operations in many of the new pataphysics articles including this one and Chaos Theory
shhh, we don't talk about him here, O5
You're far too late. Placeholder McDoctorate is everyone working for the Foundation as well as every SCP already.
You can hear exactly what The Explorer thinks of an SCP as he reads out their number but after that he immediately goes into professional neutral mode. But for those brief seconds you can tell if they feel sympathy, disgust, discontent, anger, or any kind of emotion depending on the ending.
K99 9kk
00
What was he feeling about this one?
I think lust....
... Which is weird.....
........for all of us.
(_)_)=======🤡
@@kylehughes1619 My guess is contempt by the small sigh after "SCP"
If I had a dollar for any instance of the foundation making an eigen weapon to neutralize SCPs only for things to hit the fan, I'd have two dollars - which isn't much, but it's weird it happened twice.
Honestly, I’ve seen so many scenarios where The Foundation ends up ruining everything and causes the end of the world, that I now honestly support The Serpent’s Hand and all GOI who seek the end of The Foundation!
@@undeadprinceofchaos3731 Well to be fair, the GOC aren't any better, and the Serpant's Hand don't want the end of the Foundation, they just want it to open up to the world
It's a whole ongoing series, you're about to get a lot more dollars
@@cninh4574 (insert Vince McMahon money gif here)
@@undeadprinceofchaos3731 personally I've always seen it as
the serpent's hand being the most good wanting to make the abnormal normal, believing any non hostile entity should be free in our world while containing or destroying dangerous ones.
The SCP are neutral thinking that reality isn't ready for the supernatural and thus they hide and contain, ignorance is bliss.
They contain all entities regardless of good or bad but are more "kind" to safe and helpful entities while wanting to destroy dangerous ones that could threaten reality without any benefit even if this is rare.
Finally the GOC a more horrible version of the SCP where they think all anomalies even ones that are helpful or harmless should be destroyed.
“There are repercussions for killing gods” Kratos can relate
That’s philosophical gold right there!
"Which means the occultists can be dealt with through more traditional means"
Literally every MTF member: **Racks shotgun** these are traditional means, right boss?
"Duly noted. No, go forth and 'spread the word', m'kay?"
Boss: "No." *Gives the MTF a grenade launcher* "This is."
The unintended consequences of trying to place everything into boxes. Another good article and reading of. Be well everyone!
is this somehow connected to WHY scp 5000
There's no canon and all that, but people do love suggesting that comparison (although I've yet to see someone suggest *how* they're related, just that they might be).
wich is the second eigen weapon ur thinking of
"Tactical Theology" gives me the giggles 😁 I pictured a battlefield with someone yelling, "Tactical theology incoming! Deploy militant atheism counter-measures immediately!"
Or, better yet, the Foundation actually utilitizing combat priests and monks converting people and other beings to their ranks a la the Age of Empires games.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Wololo!
AoE2 Monks: "WAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAH" or some similar sound.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Sounds like The Horizon Initiative.
geez micheal it was the only strong meme to come out of that game.
wolololo....
how you spell the first bit before the wolololol is anyones guess but that bit was clear meme potential as it did spawn innumerable "mind control" units in stategy games to come. tellingly usually a straight riff on religious conversion or a very "evil" side might be even better at it which i find telling.
welp now i have yuris revenge music to go get out of my head. have a nice day
How is it that whenever Placeholder McD is mentioned, the SCP is such a metaphysical banger. I love this.
Because he’s basically the father of pataphysics. It’s his thing
lol I just can't help myself
@@Doge-zb7ku more like the cool uncle who won't shut up at parties
Placeholder always means things will get interesting.
Also The Cicada God seems somehow relevant. Both from parallels and interesting prospects of interacting.
I would not be suprised if they tie the Cicada into the Admonition canon too. Like, it was a early try to destroy a god, but it instead the isolation just made it consider itself the "true" god, because it did not see the other god-complexes and became a parasite that now could destroy the world.
@@plinfan6541 Its already several references to a different cicada god involving placeholder stories. If that god were forced into normalcy it could require adding or exposing it to Christian elements possibly awakening 3004. 3004 isn't related but by its own nature it wouldn't need to be.
Also Cousin Johnny just rampaging anomalous religious ceremonies. He doesn't get much crossover for being a fan favorite (other than 'laugh is fun' sending him screaming)
"-most of the crew being aware of the procedure"
The new guy: "why'd everyone leave except us"?
(Explosion)
The Foundation: Let's make a machine to wipe gods from existence, nothing could possibly go wrong!
Murphy's Law: *_YOU DARE OPPOSE ME MORTAL_*
The fact that Murphy Law is an actual SCP makes this funnier
Wonder how Milo is doing lately?
Laughts in Cosmic Starfish
I'm so confused, it says your comment was posted a day ago, yet the video says it was only just uploaded two hours ago 🤔
Weird
@@babyblue_22 Patreon. They get early access.
Thus the foundation lives out Nietzsche' "God is dead, and we killed him, and in the absence of a god, humans will build god anew"
That's a good damn quote
@@l-x-10 Its actually pretty bad, implying any type of Human culture will devolve into a Cult of...something.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 That isn't what the quote is about, it's saying that we as humans seek out religion when ever we lack one. Or at that's what I think Chris Cormac up there was tying to imply by using it, I think...
6659 is, without a doubt, my favorite SCP. Thank you for covering this masterpiece.
I think it might be my favorite now as well
Exactly. In fiction or reality, this thing is awesome. They finally found a way to weed out the source of pretty much every annoying god issue and remove it. Get rid of the physical and mental parts of the specific humans making these god damn things a reality, at the cost of them living a shorter life maybe. Replacing the cost of where they go on fucking rampages and summon even more twisted things based on how devout their worship gets, only giving that god more power to hurt EVERYONE ELSE. The SCP fucking nailed it on this one, regardless of the spinning they put on it with their "humans aren't meant to understand things because inherent limitations" usual crap. Humans are the ones unwittingly creating harmful beings that interfere with not only their lives, but the lives of millions of others. Why the hell shouldn't we be the ones to wipe our own proverbial ass, under a controlled environment no less, once in a while? I would say a little under 200 dead gods is a good start, and definitely should be expanded upon in the future.
"In simpler words: It kills Gods GOOD." Absolutely *Priceless*!
I love how, at 6:45, TES has to clarify what he said was "sects".
Oh my god
Every time the Foundation starts messing with the noosphere and the human consciousness/universal perception of such things within it, I cant help but think that they inch ever closer to a 5000 scenario and "IT".
We fight in the dark so u can die in the light
For those who want to know, even if a bit more, I recommend scp-6689 from the same author. It's... Difficult to get through by design, but somewhere along the maze, there are bits that add up to this particular scp.
you might want to proofread this.
@@TeddyGNOPwhy?
@@0xXMagnusXx0 ignore me, i'm insane lol.
for some reason i saw a _completely_ different set of SCP numbers when i first read this.
i CANNOT express how fucking hyped i got about the ending. i saw it coming from early on, but it wound out just slowly and subtly enough that i doubted myself, and doubting and then being proved right is the best feeling in the world
Although the concept of the article itself is different, i cant help but think of this machine as being similar/the same to the machine in SCP-6820, considering they were both created to yeet concepts from human mind as a whole.
As expected ofc, the outcomes are similarly catastrophic
They both are part of the ADMONITION canon, along with the previous video on SCP-6747, CHAOS THEORY
It’s good to know that Placeholder McDoctorate is out there makin money moves
I loved reading this, it has a lot of beating around the bush but the way it all ties together was beautiful
Thanks for this comment, it let me know that this is going somewhere. If I hadn't seen this I would have x'ed away around the 20 minute mark.
tied together? the whole thing struck me as deliberately enigmatic.
Ah a lovely way to break the work night up. Our regularly scheduled program into the spooky-verse.
Your 100% my favorite content creator for the SPC universe you also give the most clarity without being completely opinion biased. I guess I'm just trying to say thank you. Exploring the SCP world with you is my bedtime sanity. 🤯
Well said his videos have also helped me through many of nights
I know, anytime I find myself stuck in my head I just drained out the world and my thoughts and sound of his voice and the next thing you know I'm waking up well rested! Damn good amesthetics they're providing us these days. 😂🤣🤯
Totally
The thought of the Foundation raising a champion of and for humanity, Prometheus, to become the god in our corner of the universal scale ring is such an awesome concept to me. Don’t know why it resonates so well, but it does
We went from "lol funny looking peanut man snaps necks"
to
Literally Enough lore and stories to create hundreds of hours of youtube content, triple a video games and movies
I often wonder how the original author of the scp 173 article feels about all of this?
Shockingly impressed, maybe.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Also most likely speechless and honored. I mean how would you feel knowing a small story and concept you created inspired others and lead to the creation of one of the biggest communities and most complex fictional universes in media?
From what I remember of his comment on 173’s article, both of those things.
i quite enjoy thinking about what the original sculptor of the statue thinks of scp now.
quite a low opinion i would have thought originally but scp did adapt, learn and not repeat itself. so did they get the viewpoint of watching the first steps in creativity devolop and learn to run? ive been very much enjoying the related realisation that creativity dies when kept in a box, the boxes of constraint that are benificial to creativity arent limits on the thoughts at play, just a filter for what of the created will be used with purpose.
freedom becomes inevitable to life as life dies in stagnation and without the freedom to create, stagnation becomes inevitable.
which is the long way round to say human society really does need to pull its finger out and work out supporting the populace ubiquitously enough for there to be space to be an artist for anyone.
proportional representation and a ubi would be a good way to not have to worry about capping the rich but try telling them that.
sorry long rant dont worry if it was too rambling to follow
@@undeadprinceofchaos3731 anything can happen, I grew up thinking there were only 2 genders but with the way things are going now anything is possible even the scp could be a real thing
The moment he said “I am Reverend Blake..” I knew something wild was about to happen! As someone who does believe in God, I really enjoyed this one lol
What if all the deities start to fight back . I doubt all the gods are gonna roll over and let the foundation delete them . What if there is a deity of deletion so the process of trying to delete it becomes counterproductive and empowers it ? Or a deity of undeletion whose very existence revolves around being undeletable hence making it immune and anathemic to attempts of deletion?
I was actually expecting that the actions of SCP-6659 resulted in an all out war against Gods who now want humanity wiped from existence for killing their brethren because of their “delusional-super-superiority-complex”
Competitive Eschatology
I thought that the machine itself would become a God as there actions would start to become routine and some personal awestruck by its power over time began to worship it, like how some scientists worship mathematical concepts or certain innovations.
If there is a deity of deletion, the very association of the concept of erasing something connected to that deity would be removed so it could still kill it. As i understand it does not target concepts but connections of concepts and deities.
For example when you see a cross you think of christianity...and jesus and all that...if that association is removed then a cross becomes just two pieces of wood perpendicular to it. A man hanged on a cross becomes just someone executed in a weird way...etc etc
If there was a god of deletion or undeletion...those two concepts will stay what they are in simple terms not connected to that deity anymore...
That was my thought, the foundation is basically being used in a way they don't understand giving a hidden God leverage over all. But let's say that isn't the case a God is a high level entity beyond comprehension so they could probably see this playing out in their favor in the unforeseeable future.
The Admonition series rocks, I'm glad ES seems to agree.
a cautionary tale about understanding the use of things before you try to destroy them. dont break down the walls of a house you're standing inside of.
While too long winded for the point it is trying to make I do like the reveals it has. The SCP 055 retcon I don't mind and the 3125 implication that the researcher might have accidentally summoned it to Earth is very interesting. Makes me wonder if the goal of the anti memetics division to deal with it is to somehow summon Prometheus to fight it. I would like it if in either an SCP or tale we see the final confrontation between Prometheus and 3125
I personally can't stand the desire to tie all the scps together like some kind of MCU crossover.
@Paul A 4010 does exactly that and in a very interesting way
055 bit is funny when you remember that 055 is not round
Foundation tries to create God killer accidentally creates wireless lobotomy machine thus causing the creation of God+
SCP: Time to destroy!
GOC: Time to get the popcorn and laugh.
I can already see the last antimemetic and pataphysic themed videos leading to the wonderful Antimemetic Department tales with Marion and our favourite fifth-fingered starfish, pretty much spelled out with that ending!
Antimemetic Department is so damn good.
@@plinfan6541 Agreed!
Ah, the SCP foundation. The only place where you can hear terms like "tactical theology".
and 40k. Where space orgies create gods, machines have souls because of bionical cosplay taken way too far and occasionally a genocidal anti theist that accidentally made himself the sole god humanity is now about to actually become one
"His hands scream at him, but his hands are gone, with only fingers remaining"
Holy shit that's insane
When they started talking about Prometheus I thought for sure it was gonna be PANGLOSS!!!
Poor goat can never catch a break
Video about gods in SCP foundation would be interesting (if nothing else, hearing narrator read description of SCP 4960 would complete my life)
Agreed
It would have been an excellent twist if the deicide machine didn't work on the Scarlet King, or rather it succeeded in making his cultists forget him, but didn't do anything to the King himself, since he is not a memetic entity, generated by human thought, but rather an higher level being that doesn't need any support from humans.
Nah, SK's dead. They killed him
@@dodo_scp5190 Well, part of the Scalet King lore is if he exists or not is always uncertain. So one could easily say that deleting it just erased the part that where currently connected to humanity and not the Scalet King as a whole.
Sort of what I was thinking. Considering the Scarlet King is a product of non-existence like the Brothers Death, I find it hard to believe that the Foundation could so easily get away with killing him so easy. All they likely did was erase the idea of his existence from human consciousness.
Which could be even more terrifying in that they just gave the Scarlet King free reign to work in total secret by making it harder to discern if his “followers” are simply pulling tricks out of their sleeves or if the Scarlet King is actually the reason.
Per the norm, the Foundation has dug itself another hole.
I believe another part of SK lore is that he is a concept found in most sapient societies. So even though we've served his connection with humanity, he still exists out there.
"A great shrieking in the sky above, and looks up to see a enormous obsidian tower in front of him."
Uhhh... EnderDragon?
The one thing, the ONE thing I would love you to do is explain references. The co-lead researchers are Milton and Blake? like John Milton (Paradise Lost) and William Blake (the book of Urizen)? Well played OP, well played.
It’s also absolutely fitting for this article’s Blake, following the footsteps of the original Blake, to attempt to discern the form of God by probing within himself.
This sounds like SCP-6820, just aimed at everything BUT 682
It actually kinda is when you think about it.
Makes you realize that it’s better to leave these gods alone.
they're both from the same series called ADMONITION
"Tactical Theology" might be my new favorite phrase!
Deleting gods from the noosphere sounds more up the alley of the GOC. Could also have made for a fun story of the the GOC deleting the scarlet King and the SCP Foundation bringing it back because they find out something is missing and start investigating
Me hearing the words 'eigenweapon', 'memeplex' and 'noosphere' on subsequent sentences and getting 6820 flashbacks.
"Awww shit, here we go again."
This must be how 3125 ended up in agony with a gash on it's eye.
Placeholder McDoctorate is what I’ll be naming my firstborn
"Let's kill some gods! What could go wrong?"
*Creates even more powerful gods and gives the whole planet partial lobotomies*
Thank you, it's 3:00am and I can't sleep
Director Placeholder McDoctorite. He’s a cool guy.
28:32 "Hi I'm Doctor John Blake, and welcome to Jackass!"
As in the skateboarding series of yore?
"...but his brain began searching bigger more powerful ideas... and the idea noticed."
Oh fuc
If he was a real preacher, he would have known that no one needs a machine to find the one true God. He is everywhere on every level of existence.
♠️
Outside space/time. I like (not really) people who say if Jesus Christ came to earth they'd put him on trial. Aron Ra. He only knows maybe 40% of the Bible and doesn't understand the main chunk. How do you dispute that? Like he does it's the same debate put on repeat wherever he goes. It's so tiring but one should always see the other point of view or you're worthless. I totally respect him for debating Muslims. I was threatened for it...many times...yay...another rabbit hole!
Something: *is not currently a problem*
The Foundation, for no reason: ok hear me out, let's fucking kill it
I guess it only makes sense that what lies outside the noasphere is antimemetic
The Foundation: we must maintain "normalcy" no matter what, even if that means not stepping in to prevent tragedy such as genocide and mass destruction
Also The Foundation: let's kill gods
Also The Foundation, a little later: let's make a god
Ask kratos once said "there are consequences for killing a god"
I like to imagine that this is what led to SCP-5000. They found a god just as bad if not worse than the Scarlet King in my head canon.
Ah, pataphysics, I don’t know anything about it and I know everything about it.
Oooh, this one really scratched that itch I look for in scp.
Was I the only one that was literally rewinding every minute or two to replay sections multiple times till I understood them? Holy hell this was a complicated one lmao
I really like the concept of the Fitfhist God being a god of Humanity, an eldritch nonsense god being one that encapsulates Humanness is quite interesting to me.
I wonder if religions of the Fifhist God in this canon surround the "purity" of Humanity and undertake individual and systemic speciesm, such as creating a Thaumic calculator dedicated to creating one-off entirely unique slurs against the Faeries of The Forest, or creating a reverse gravitation field on Earth that pulls non-terrestial creatures whether good or bad into orbit as a countermeasure to the alien's presence on Earth or with Humans in general because "if a Human and an alien procreate, it'll end in a corrupted monster that'll get aliens replace all Humans, forever!", or the occult creation of a device that actively seeks out non-Human genes within descendants of Human and non-Human parents and try's to remove said genes from the person, retrying to filly remove any "aberrant" genomes from the subject, inevitably harming and possibly torturing the subject for being a hybrid of Human and sentient other.
Being a god of Humanity surely means having worshippers that are Human-puritans or Human people who consider the concept of other sentient creatures coexisting with Humans such as A.I. robots or different fantastical or cosmic species as pure evil, the antithesis to them and their god.
And this god is held up by the Foundation in this canon, so that just makes the Foundation more Humanist, whoops.
“You buy. It kill gods good.”
Sold my man.
There's a pretty large plot hole here in that there's a pretty obvious culprit in the Cosmic Starfish, and it just feels super irrational to me that these researchers wouldn't be clued in as to how the nature of the cosmic starfish would make it unmappable to the machine, but would necessarily draw its attention as the machine would necessarily be poking and prodding at its conceptual edges.
I also, however, feel like this machine could be a cool nexus point for a crossover episode feature the Planet of Hands and the Starfish, allowing the two to relate to eachother. If a talented writer could see their way to creating it.
"It kills gods good" 💀
im in hospital rn and i think there is nothing better than hearing your calm collected voice uttering big semi scientific words.
thank chu 😊
Sounds like the whole story for A Realm Reborn.
Almost nothing better than waking up to a fresh video, and enjoying my coffee getting ready for the day. Please keep up the great work!
35:07 Describing a man being obliterated by a deity
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“There are consequences to killing a god” -Some Greek guy
Oh boy new exploring series!
All right, on to Episode 3.
The Foundation has had to fight gods a variety of ways in the past. In this case, they found a more centralized way of killing gods by hacking into the noosphere and cutting them off from their power source, aka humanity's worship. Considering the device's ability to interact with the noosphere, it's likely that it was created from the remains of SCP-6820 after getting the AU warning that they probably shouldn't make the lizard into a god.
The device is separated into three parts: a scanner that scans symbols, or "totems"; a conceptual device that accelerates (or overworks) the concept of the god to where it's ejected from the noosphere, leaving it unable to be conceptualized or worshipped; and finally, a series of non-sapient semi-organic brain computers that projects into and receives thoughts from the noosphere for the Foundation to analyze (a sort of stand-in for worshippers, in a sense).
The Foundation uses this process to neutralize gods by severing the reciprocal relationship between them and man, such as worship for gifts. These concepts associated with these gods were jettisoned from the noosphere, and with no connecting bridge, they are left to sit and wither away into nothing. They first began with an object that was already an SCP, 055. 055 is, in this case, the skull of an ancient humanoid species with antimemetic properties that were opposed to mankind; the Foundation pretty much overdid it with this one, as both the deity the _Invisibili_ worshipped and anything associated with it, primarily the _Invisibili_ themselves, were made to be impossible to understand. The Foundation now has 055 locked away, having no idea what it is since they can no longer comprehend it. They even succeeded in eliminating the Scarlet King's threat (though if 6747 is any indication, it's yet to be seen if it will remain that way, as I've covered recently), with the magical elements of his worshippers still remaining in spite of this.
It was then that during the 182nd deity neutralization that when the biomechanical brains analyzed the results, they encountered something that essentially caused them to overload. It's possible that they emitted some sort of psychic field that the two technicians were exposed to, and in the process exposed to 3125, causing one of them to disappear (there's a possibility that the other survived as for whatever reason, they didn't have the time to comprehend it fully). Basically, as the Foundation intruded into the noosphere more and more, their actions drew the attention of something that somehow existed outside of the noosphere, drawing it towards the human world. As later stated, Blake, in desperation for something to trust in, opened his mind to the unknown, sending his mind into human thought space and then outside its borders, encountering 3125, having given itself the name of Va, later to be known as the Fifth King.
As for Blake's actions, that begs the question: what god would consider _the human mind_ a symbol of itself?
To draw a comparison, in SCP-5935, the universal question "Who are you?" implies it was once god, but in truth, rather than it being God, it was so at one with God that they couldn't be distinguished from one other, as they separated from God once life began and names were made; since all of the primordial questions disappeared when the universe answered them in some way, the last question was left at a standstill since the answer to it was subjective, so it sought to reabsorb all named beings into itself to create only one being with one name, thereby being able to answer itself.
While most gods are gods of something, 3125, like the Question, is fundamentally different, albeit in its own way. Va is a god, but it is not a god OF ideas. It IS ideas, or rather, it is so at one with these ideas is that it cannot be separated from them. When the Foundation booted these ideas from the noosphere, they drifted until 3125 "absorbed" them into itself, becoming something else entirely. The most powerful of these ideas are: the constellation-like connections of points into a greater construct (the connections between associated concepts that the Foundation undid); rage and violence (The Scarlet King's defining traits); defeatism (or rather, submission); a fusion of the number five and antimemetics (created thanks to SCP-055 and the antimemetic properties of the _Invisibili)_; and transcendence (more specifically, inhumanity, defined by a coagulation of being removed from humankind in totality). Thanks to 055 and the Invisibili along with their goals being completely erased from human thought, 3125's concepts of antimemetics, the number five and the opposition to humanity became its core aspect. (It's likely that the sea-star icon was made as it was an animal that was seemingly the most compatible with its quinary systems)
Much like THE DEER, Va is a god that exists regardless of whether or not mankind believes in it. And yet despite this, it knows that the main way to complete its objective of opposing mankind by erasing it is to spread its influence. Once the physiological damage conducted to certain people was made due to Blake's test (as this primordial force has a much more intricate connection with the human mind), it proceeded to fill the emptiness of the cultists left by the Foundation, infecting them with its central ideas - in other words, creating the Fifthists and the Fifth Church.
(Side note: I got some inspiration of the chaotic nature of 3125, surprisingly, from Alfabusa's ITEHATTSD series, mainly from Magnus' explanation of the Warp - the reason the Warp is so corrosive and horrifying is that there are so many conflicting and contradicting ideas clashing around inside of it, degrading into, well, chaos; this concept seems to be reflected in 3125, as so many ideas are jumbling around and clashing inside of it)
In SCP-5437, the surviving Foundation researcher implies that there is a difference between Fifthism and the Fifth Church. What Fifthism is, as he describes, is mindless violence, carnage and a distinct hatred of man. The Fifth Church is, in reality, a bunch of people who worship a force without really knowing or understanding what it is - they only know that it has power and that they can use it, and the only reason they worship their vision of it is because it has infected and altered them. Since those who study memetics have already been erased due to them eventually coming to the conclusion of 3125's existence (with the exception of the Antimemetics Division thanks to amnestics), Va needed another way of propagating itself a bit more slowly and discreetly. This is ultimately the purpose of the 2456 memetic parasite and its sixth iteration, 1425 ("Star Signals"): it alters the infected's way of thinking until they become something no longer human; since they are no longer human, they are able to view what is outside of human conception, namely 3125, leading to their erasure, as evidenced by the show host disappearing as it claimed her once she was able to see it.
The Foundation, of course, has once again created another all-powerful eternal enemy to them, but in a unique way, they not only summoned this entity, but also changed it into something hostile and monstrous due to their ignorance of their efforts. Even with their god-making efforts, it likely won't have any success in truly fighting this alien and unimaginable threat.
Look back onto my other ADMONITION analysis comments in 6820 and 6747. Thanks for reading!
Thanks for these thoughtful comments / analyses, really enjoying reading them. Can't wait to see your response to ADMONITION IV (once it's out)!
@@placeholdermcd9465 Thank you so much, I really look forward to EP 4
I was waiting for this tonight! It’s become a ritual at this point lmao
*edit: **4:48** seconds in and we’ve neatly described my view on religion in an unnervingly accurate way. This is gonna be good.*
Blake's god sounds more like fullmetal Alchemist Homunculus in a jar/Homunculus in ascended mode,the one towards end of the animé series.
Hmm. The other time they created an eigenweapon to mess with beings in the noosphere didn't go too well... let's see how this one goes
I love that Placeholder McDoctorate is now a reccuring character 🥰 I love him so much :’)
please never stop making videos. i love this channel
In the words of Girard Niang, "You are watched, you are protected, you are in deep shit my son."
Great start to my weekend. I hope you never stop making these, truly awesome content!
Fr, exploring series is the best!
As soon as I heard "outside of the knowosphere", I knew exactly who/what was gonna get involved at the end.
Noosphere*
You really make my mondays so much better, love all your videos you’re the best story teller I can think of, and your voice sounds like a no nonsense (maybe a lil nonsense) detective or wizard or detective wizard, very authoritative makes me feel like I better listen for my own good, lmao just jokes but I hope you’re always staying safe and doing well
Latley, I've been feeling that every time he introduces a different SCP he sights first, it's like he is saying: "uugh, here is another one"
always perfect timing on these episodes
If you were a researcher I would happily be your d-class subject. Thanks for everything you do!
D-Class for More of his videos¿. Truth be told I would have been T class form for him for free. However you’re right being experimented on in exchange for more videos is definitely a better trade-off
D-class!
This guy is such a legend
This one was a heady listen but that Placeholder McDoctorate sure gets around.
It would be an interesting tale if the Foundation went the way the 40k imperium and accidentally created their own God based on securing, containing, and protecting.
Man, that was really great. Amazing. Love the weird sort of complex existential SCPs. Very good.
If you copy the blurred text from the first activation, it reveals the first totem is SCP-055, the unknowable object, implying this is how it got its status as unknowable. (Also hints at the ending revelation
This is one of the better articles I've been into recently. And I look forward to every upload of yours of course
I feel like "grave implications be damned" is the functional motto of the Foundation.
At this point the foundation should leave all Meme-plex entity level threats, or conceptual entities level threat to Dr.Placeholder, since he seems to actually be the only one who knows (somewhat, lets not forget the "lolfoundation"), what he is doing.
Fun Fact: in the Metafoundation Multiverse Mapchart, ADMONITION!Placeholder is actually PARADOX!Placeholder from another timeline, as the original Placeholder was snatched by the Multiversal Claw Machine, PARADOX!Placeholder moved to TL-4755-B (the main ADMONITION Timeline) at the same time
@@vereinigtestaaten6453 This comment is like an actual congnitohazard, I feel a sudden urge to jump into an open flame after reading it just so that the pain of burning alive will make me forget this comment. I hope you and everybody responsible for the Marvel-ification of SCP are proud.
@@user-gs5hj4mc7h As of 2024/01/13 The plotline I mentioned is no longer up-to-date :(