Ryobi door hinge jig- watch before you buy
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2021
- This is a review and testing of the Ryobi door hinge installation jig kit. You need to watch this before you but the product as it seems to have some issues which makes this product not suitable for use in Australia and possibly in other countries also. My impression is that this has been partly designed for use in Australia and partly in the U.S (America). My videos and product reviews are always honest. If you have any feed back or suggestions regarding this product feel free to contact me billshowto@hotmail.com
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What a honest review compared to other CZcams videos. Just subscribe to your channel because of your true honesty.
Exceptional review, and thanks for doing it! That gap wouldn't phase me but, then again, I'm not a builder/tradie/handyman and wouldn't know it's not right. Super glad you've done this, I've learnt a lot from this. THANKS MATE!
Thanks mate for your video, I just bought it from Bunnings and will go back to return it.
I’m confused it seems obvious to me that with square hinges there was just no way physically with a router bit to cut a square corner, so there’s no way you’re not going to have to chisel out the corner which should’ve been done to begin with. Those protective spacing tabs you removed made it worse and I think you would’ve been fine had you just chiseled out the corners and did nothing else. It’s hard to see everything from the camera view but that’s what it appeared like to me, especially not taking out those corners to begin with, that was a “duh” moment.
They aren't "protective tabs" they are inserts that allow you to cut any of the standard two radiuses used in door hinges: 1/4" radius or 5/8". Without the insert in place your router will cut a 1/4" radius. With the insert in place, it will cut a 5/8" radius. To accommodate a square hinge, you'll have to chisel the corners square, regardless of weather or not you use the insert.
@@chuckzissman4081 you're talking about something different, the protective tabs/pads are the rubber ones protecting the sides during clamping.
I’m in the UK. I too had this problem of it cutting too much out of the door
I fixed it in 5m (literally) by cutting a small bit of wood 8mm thick and gluing to inside of the hole (opposite side to the clamp side.
It now works perfectly. Cost me nothing to fix.
3 points to understand.. 1) This jig is for the US market (which you finally understood late in the video), 2) The US hinges are deeper than elsewhere ( again you worked this out but just to add here in the UK our 3" hinges are even shallower than those you were using so just routing the rebate out using the jig dimensions would leave half the door routed out and would look stupid. 3) taking the rubber buffers off the clamping side makes no difference to the depth of cut, but it does result in marking the door with the clamp screw, you are over-tightening the clamp. If you had marked the hinge out as you usually would and then placed the jig on top, you would have noticed the jig didn't line up and would have only routed up to your marks to ensure a good fit. What it needs is some different thickness shims to go on the non clamping side to stop the router going too far towards the non hinge side of the door and leave no gap around the hinge.
It *does* make a difference in the depth of the cut: It decreases the thickness of wood remaining between the back of the hinge and the door stop, which would increase the gap between the door and the stop when the door is closed.
@@chuckzissman4081 Not on the clamping side mate, they are only there to stop the screw clamp marking the door. The other side maybe but not on the screw clamp.
wrong the door was still marked even when leaving the rubber stoppers on as seen in the first attempt. so you are wrong
@@mechanicalman4531 the door gets marked with or without the rubber stoppers if you tighten the clamp too much, the point I was trying to make was that having them there or not having them there on the clamp makes no difference to where the jig aligns on the edge of the door, only the rubber stoppers on the side opposite the clamp have any say in where the jig sits, but even with them removed, with the sizes of hinges in the UK (and it would seem from the video, elsewhere as well) the jig is the wrong size for these markets, I had to drop a shim into the hole where the router goes, up against the non clamping side, to stop the router cutting too deep towards the edge.
Excellent video!
I had heard about the issue with the Ryobi hinge jig and this video comprehensively demonstrates it.
Thanks for reviewing this product, Bill. I was looking at this product and I was planning to get it. Thanks for letting me know about these issues. 👍👍👍
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Excellent review mate! Appreciate your honesty!
I've got one from America which after watching reviews thought would save me time. Unfortunately I have the same problem its too big. Ive not used it since but there are people on CZcams that have modified them so I might give that a try.
Keep up the good work love your video and reviews 👏
Can you link me to videos that have modified them I can’t find any
Good heads up mate thanks again
Recently found one of your videos for cleaning the shower and since subbed. Good on you mate, you got some handy videos up!
Glad you’re enjoying them 👍
Just purchased one from bunnings, and guess what the same thing happened to me, couldn't understand why I had a gap so big. I will try tapping a 3mm plate to adjust the cut.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks Bill. By showing the flaws in this jig you have saved me a lot of trouble. I plan to buy this jig to hang a door because I really do not like chisel rebating. I plan to use plastic packers with double sided tape to reduce the width of the cut. Fortunately bunnings sells packers in 1mm, 2mm, 5mm and other sizes that makes it easy to customize. Double sided tape means you can insert and remove the packers at will. Good on ya!
I use one of these jigs every single day. They work great
Love mine. They pay for themselves on the 1st door. Can fly thru a house in an hour with all their jigs
Great review, liking your presentation style. My internal doors (uk) 20 Yr old house have 75mm hinges with a flat surface of (seems) 23/24mm for a good fit width wise.
Keep up the great vids
You have no choice but to nock out the corner with a chisel Before you remove the template. The jig works just fine when used corectly. Another tip. Dont over tighten and put your "padding things back on"
Love your work
I'm in Canada, I'm about to replace all my interior door slabs and buy one of this jig. my doors use 3" hinges, and I just checked their width is 28mm as you guessed. So it should work just fine for me, but I'll surely try it on one of my old door slab first to make sure how it works.
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Thank mate from UK. You safe my money 🤝 and time 🤦♂️.
This jig works perfect if you use it correctly and use the hinges this jig was made for. This isnt really a fair review since youre not using the proper hinges this jig was made for. Using the right hinges, there is absolutely no gap, its a nice tight perfect fit. Anyone thinking about buying this jig should watch a couple other reviews as well.
Nice one
Thanks for the video. I bought one yesterday from bunnings. I haven't opened it yet so I'll be returning it today.
What do you use for rebated jambs?
Thanks Bill. Just bought one of these but no opened it yet so will take it back to Bunnings
Do it free hand using a router. I have a video on this too. 👍👍👍
I use 100mm hinges the hinge side that fixes to the door is 30mm and works perfect
Hi Bill! Try Ryobi 75 - 125mm Door Hinge Installation Kit - Japan Brand. Works perfect for us here in Australia ... good tutorials buddy. Thank you
In NZ, we tend to use 90mm butt hinges for standard doors, either square or radius, I don't know how how well they would work, I had considered buying one.
I love how indepth you go.. you put alot of effort into what you do and it shows. And the fact that you dont act like u know it all and your fully saying if I'm wrong let me know even though you have thoroughly done your due diligence! Love the honesty and genuine nature of your videos keep em coming!
Many thanks for your detailed review. I am in Aussie and it so happens I was just about to go and buy one of these and now I am so glad I seen your review. Did you find a suitable jig Sir?
The jig worked as intended.. the corners were always intended to be cut by chisel.. a round router bit was never going to cut out the square corners.. doing it free-hand wouldn’t be any different.
That jig only works on the door side. For the door frame, you will need something else. A homemade jig works fine (for both door and frame)
Bit late to the party, but we're in the UK & have the same issue with this & the gap it leaves. In our case, almost 1cm. Hopefully a shim of sort will cure the problem.
Great review though 👍
Thanks for the video, could you please tell me where you got it from??
I've been looking for it at Bunnings around my area but they don't stock I live in Sydney thank you
Iv made a jig with 3 cut outs for the ryobi jig set to 6 and 9 and centre works great and the corners I say abra cadabra and its gone lol
I'm in Australia. Not sure what instructions you read. I have the exact same tool. And it states in the instructions that for the perfect square edge. You will still need to use a utility knife or a small chisel for squaring off. Reading instructions is always important
You can add another spacer at the side for your proper spacing
100% Wright.. I am facing the same issue and I thought that was my mistake..
I just found your channel. Funny thing, I wasn't sure what "Bill Show To" meant...ok...ok...got it now
Lol you’re not the only one. Welcome 👍👍👍
looked at mine, your knob screw is out to much, mine is subset below the surface of the insert/brace…as for the width of area to be removed that is strange, maybe get another one to see if they had QC problem and the opening was off…? I am located in the USA. thanks for the videos!
It would seem that the hinges are manufactured differently, or maybe a quality control issue. Or maybe from China. As someone had already mentioned here, trace the hinge on the door first. Then see how the jig lines up with the hinge outline. I don't own this product, but I do plan on purchasing it.
Thank you for pointing this out. The back fence / wall is clearly too far back for the hinges you are fitting. As a DIY'er I'd be iinclined to let it go, but not now. As a 45 year metal machinist I'd question it .
Hi just fix it with permastick on the side perfect size, shame ryobi didn’t see that and find solution by myself.
It’s designed to be used with the same brand
Router and the correct router bit as they come with different thicknesses.
Hi Bill, just watched the video, not sure if this will fix the issue of the gap, but if you change the bearing to a tad bigger it eg”1.5 mm bigger” that should give you a snug fit all round. Cheers keep up the great videos mate.
Joe 🇦🇺 🤙🏼
The problem with that is it will cause the door to be 1.5mm closer to the stop, which could cause interference
wrong because it will then give the incorrect height
No it won’t….
You need to add a 3mm spacer for the door I think.
Oh snap…. Just had the same problem…thanks for making me feel NOT like a complete tool…..(pun intended) 👍🇳🇿❤️
Hey mate was wondering if you could make a vid on how to remove the windows locks with the one way screws?
Cheers Corey Norman... I mean Bill haha
Isn't there a black plastic fence your supposed to be using?
I'm from Melboure, Australia and have come across the exact same issues. Best thing you can do is throw this thing over your shoulder and router them free hand. I'm also finding that when clamping the jig to the door it lifts up on one side. Very poorly made and pretty typical of Ryobi garbage.
You are not a novice carpenter, you know that a round cutter doesn't make a square hole, great video and demo. Also if they included the corner punch like the trend kit it would be great.
I score the edges of my hinge location with a utility knife that way when I use the router in the corner it removes it completely. No corner punch needed 👍
@@billshowto very good tip thanks
Just put a 3mm extra padding on the opposite of the clamping site
Can you do a review on the new HP Ryobi range and if it's worth the extra money? keep up the great content
Trust me, the HP range are definitely worth it! Just pay attention to the titles as some tools have different varieties. One of these will be "performance" which I'd recommend over the cheaper ones as they are just a bit more powerful and have more bare metal part/a bit more durable
Not sure I'd want to use ryobi. I find it's easier to just make a jig if I'm doing a few doors or just a chisel if it's just 1 or 2 doors
Bill im also a handyman in Australia and ended up using a 3D printed jig from Redken after watching Scott Brown and they are a great little jig
Thanks mate, I’ll look into it 👍
Have you got a link to that video?
@@tysonwood9488 check out Scott brown carpentry as it’s one of his earlier videos
Hey mate, my guess is they have fitted the wrong sized bearing to the router bit. "Outer diameter" on the router bit they have supplied. Bearing outside diameter should be bigger.
Cheers
Hi , is a flush bearing so If the bearing changes then the length will be out. The length works fine it’s the width that seems to be out. I’ll keep following up and keep everyone posted. Thanks 👍👍👍
@@billshowto the width / outer diameter of the bearing is what I'm trying to say, If it's of bigger width / diameter it won't go in as deep / far into the cut out for the hinge and there won't be a gap on the back side of the hinge what your encountering. Just a thought.
I don’t think the issue you encountered is related to the pads. This Ryobi hinge installation kit is not designed to finish the corners for square hinges. The user manual that came with it indicates that for square hinges, the corners have to be finished with a chisel (I was quite surprised when I read that!). I’m in the U.S. Not sure if your Australian kit comes with the same instructions. I hope this is helpful. Thanks for the video & good luck!
Same thing is mentioned in our manual also. The issue is that the jig do not accommodate for the widths of standard size hinges here in Australia. Apparently we are suppose to scribe a line for our desired width and only route up to that line. That kind of defeats the purpose of having a jig which is why I prefer to use the router free hand 👍
I just bought one from Bunnings’s today… don’t think ill take it out the packet and its going straight back… shame as i like Ryobi range i bought the lock jig too hope thats ok for Australian market?
Lock jig works good but be careful as the clamps can leave marks on the door 👍
All you would have had to do is chisel out the corners, done. Also you could have put a piece of shim where you tightened it.😮 Pretty basic. Sorry you had a hard time. Sometimes it s the simple things that look complicated 😊
just put a packer to reduce to the width of the hing
A round cutter will not leave you with a square corner.... You have to remove the residual material with a chisel....
There are numerous videos on YT showing you my point exactly....
A shim on the inside face of the jig would sort that.
A round router bit wont router a square corner..................well I never 🙄
Somebody else had the same issue here in the US. The black tabs that you took off you thought were protectors he stacked two on top of each other on the backside to correct the issue.
I found the same problem.
Those hinges width look small
I heard they took them off the aus market?
They’re still being sold??? I’ll call Ryobi and follow up
@@billshowto please keep us posted on what you find out!
No! It's obviously the radii left by the round bit!
You should have chised out the edges on your firsr attemt it would have worked fine!
@tazmun is right, you cant do a square corner with a router. with or without this tool, you will have the same issue with the router. You need to chisel the corners. Is giving you more advantages, than disadvantages. I want to see you doing the hingers without this tool
I didnt buy the tool, but i saw multiple reviews, and looks like is helpful tool.
I dont think you are a trader, and your review is confusing people.
Buddy a router cannot cut a 90 degree corner. Of course you'd have to chisel out the corners
Stick a plate 2 or 3 mm thickness against the side, narrowing the space of cutting. The plate will hit the bearing, stopping the router blade 2 or 3 mm shorter in width.
I was going to do this however I realized that this would not solve the other issues of different standard size widths and lengths of other hinges. 👍👍👍
Round router can never make square courners, you need a chissle obviously.
Since it's not possible to router into a square corner, just chisel it out. No big deal.
That's a paint gap .........
All you have to do is tap the door hinge into the space
Doesn’t work in America either
I have this and I used it for the first time just yesterday. Firstly, the width cannot be adjusted and is fixed so if you have a 2.5cm wide hinge as I did you can't adjust the jig to fit this size.
Secondly, the depth that the jig allows you to cut is insufficient to ensure the hinge is flush with the door.
Thirdly when you do cut in you end up with rounded corners. So, if you use this you will end up having to use a sharp chisel to carve out the hinge recess which you may as well have done from the start.
Bottom line this is a poor product and not worth the money.
If Bob had hands he probably would grabbed a hammer and hammer the shit out that jig. I think I would have...
Btw Keep up the great content mate 🤙👌
Lol, bobs a very patient man 👍
Corner chisel
Hinges are the problem, to small for that door,.
all you do is take pads off and don't tighten it down so hard. I did my door with no marks. You must be using a cheap door or something
Stop talking and read instructions. Those don’t look like door hinges, they are light duty cabinet hinges
I found it doesn’t work on 35mm thick doors in Australia
Thank you for pointing this out. The back fence / wall is clearly too far back for the hinges you are fitting. As a DIY'er I'd be iinclined to let it go, but not now. As a 45 year metal machinist I'd question it .