LS HOW TO: 600-HP POWER PACKAGES (HOW TO MAKE 600 HP LS MOTORS)
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- FULL LS DYNO RESULTS. 600-HP NA, Turbo & NX COMBOS! Here in part 3, we have stepped up the LS power combinations to 600 hp. How do you make 600 dyno-verified hp from your 4.8L, 5.3L, 5.7L, 6.0L or 6.2L? How about NA, Nitrous and Turbo Combinations!! We all don't want the same thing! if you are looking to make 600 hp with your LS, this video will show you many different possible combinations with full dyno results. Enjoy!
Most underated channel out there 🔥🔥🔥
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Wrong pewdiepie is the most underrated.
Im having a shop build me a 600hp ls2 with ls3 230cc heads 70cc chambers .650 lift cam 108 lsa. Dropped the block off today. I watched this video beforehand.
Hey there dude. How much did whp did it make? Was it worth it?
How much whp did it make?
The best ls channel hands down
You should be quarantined Richard. Not for that virus, just to only bring us the best dyno testing action. 😉
Thanks for putting the 5.7 content in there
Aaronkt yes it seems like everyone forgets the original.
Aaronkt you’re a champion and thanks for the helpful videos
Is there a test with a 383 (5.3 or even ls1 block) stroker with turbo?
Hardly ever includes LS1! Why?
@@chrisbryant1657 The LS1 and LS2 and LS6 engines are fairly rare in comparison to most other LS/LY/LQ, etc. Production numbers are much higher for the later generation engines as most were installed in a variety of vehicles including trucks & SUVs whereas the LS1, LS2 and LS6 variants were only available in high performance, lower production vehicles. Majority rules (most of the time).
This content is so awesome. Thanks for dropping all of this experienced based knowledge on us.
"different strokes for different folks." SUBBED
I'd like to see what the 600hp 6.0L would do with an LSA supercharger. It's a pretty similar build that I wanna do.
craig castellano same! In theory a BAR of pressure doubles HP
@@SuperFuzzyman123 yea except for the losses from driving the supercharger and if iat and everthinging are good
@@ryanaxberg9263 Key word THEORY, obviously there are variables
Go with Whipple
@@vanteg9834 Those are pricey. besides, I already have a warrantee take off LSA I bought a couple of years ago.
These videos are awesome! Please keep them coming I like this as it gives more technical details than engine masters for us horsepower junkies.
The all motor kings are the school of automotive machinists. Awesome racing program.
Bro, I had a mcrib a few months ago, and it was satisfying in the “this is nice but I don’t need another one” kind of way.
Yeah, nothing satisfies like a patty made from lips and assholes smothered in McDonald's BBQ sauce...
has nothing to do with this, but somehow more interesting
THE 3 DISLIKES ON THIS VIDEO ARE FROM FORD MODULAR MOTOR OWNERS😂😂😂
Lol I am a ford guy pushrod and and modular no complaints here we like data...and we already no the coyote only needs cams and long tubes to hit 600.👌🏿
Y’all ever heard of a joke? Lol. Jesus
@@nathanwood1567 lol yeah thought that 1 second after I pressed send.
@@socleanmx6 LMAO no they don't.. there weak as shit on pump Gas
@@nathanwood1567 it wasn’t a joke. Only turned into one when the lame $hit backfired. Do better!
Man I love this guy , he makes building powerful engine simple
Great job and I just love that 600hp LS3 👌
Same!
Love this channel. I've gained a tremendous amount of knowledge and can't wait to apply it to my next build.
Absolutely agree. Different strokes for different folks. Lots of ways to make power with these LS motors. Great time to be alive
I love the Mic Rib! Just can't remember the last time I had one..
I remember the first time I had one. I've had many more since then.
It’s almost 4am, perfect🙏🏼
Right on time ,,the Video we were waiting for, thanks for helpful advice on mentioning the 6.0(LQ9)
Thank you sir! For providing the push, pulls, bangs, pops, and Whirley sounds that comes with this video! Good stuff!
Sub'd! Richard, I like your theory on diversity of hp. I've told my kids for years that if everyone liked the same thing, life would be dull. The old addage "variety is the spice of life" is still as true as ever. Keep on with the interesting/educational/down to earth content. This is coming from a Ford guy who wants to build an LS! No hatin' here. I like 'em all.
I want to see a 416 combo test with a healthy cam and stock LS3 heads and intake versus a set of Ported stock heads versus ported stock heads and an LSXr intake versus after market heads and LSXr intake.
He has a video posted somewhere which closely matches your request. The test engine is a 408 instead of a 416. Figure around 15 to 25 additional hp given otherwise equal test parameters.
i have work in the morning, but the suburban of my dreams is calling me
Best car youtube ch ever!
All your videos are great..... but, how about doing a 6.2 L LS 3 cam comparison for the everyday driver that did a restomod using a LS3 with a very street friendly cam... stage 1 cam TSP, BTR, and the offerings from Comp Cams and so on. With the standard power bolt on parts.... headers, street intake, 102mm throttle bodies bigger injectors and so on. Would love to see!
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I love the different show comparisons. Thanks please make more in this series. Or maby a high torque comparison.
This channel is just freaking awesome!!!
Richard I must say you have exceptional public speaking skills
@Richard holdener can u do a carb sit up with the 4.8,5.3, & 6.0 rate hp
I would like to see a test on boost controls to see witch one builds boost the fastest and see how much hp we are missing out on down low
Codybaker lots of tq and boost down low, turns stock rods into pieces.
@@4familyman sure but I don't give a bleep what happens past 3500 rpm.
Joe Blow sounds like you are a diesel guy at heart. :)
@@4familyman oh kinda but I don't get as big a kick out of them as I do messing with gas stuff. I just like torque and low rpms and if I can get that out of a gas I'll stick with a gas.
Yeah I understand that but I’m just running WG spring pressure to control my boost so I just wanted to know what you could gain with a boost controller
yea! i been waiting for this one! keep up the great videos.
Keep testing! I like the power curve from that Edelbrock Cross ram, would love to it used more often in these tests. :-)
I tested that-video is up
@@richardholdener1727 I know I saw it in the multi manifold test. Is there a video of it under boost? Particularly high boost? Wondered if it would maybe have any structural issues running 20+psi
This guy knows his stuff!!! 😄😄😄
I can say one thing Richard, youve got the right haircut for a synchronized swimmer! ;)
savin dat $ on swim caps and hair products
Your testing and information is spot on. Man, thank you for all the help and info. Soooooo. LETS MAKE SOME NOISE!!!
Once again cheap, fast, or reliable pick two
anything ls is already cheap, so ill take reliable and fast.
The best part is, lots of LS engines can be all 3
Thank you for explaining to people diversity!!
There should be new series created for all these power videos. How to make 600 hp on 91 octane pump gas. I would like to see whats possible without having to run race gas or E85.
Yesss! This is the vid I was waiting for 👍
love to learn how to tune the combos. you do agreat job of showing alot of differnt combos.any mopars coming ? 360/440? carbs?
So I was talking to a ford truck guy and he was bragging about his 400 hp pickup f 150 and thats with twin turbo. I pointed to the 1984 GMC NA 383 and said it dynoed at 510.
Another great video Richard, and test data. I am building a 6 litres, 4 valve 4 cam Mercedes engine! I will let you know my test results!
those can make good power
I would like to do a ls swap but I would have to stay on the more budget minded setup so I would get a used ls and upgrade the cam and probably an intake upgrade. That’s just what I would have to do because I wouldn’t have the money to do much more than that honestly.
Have you ever test the TSP Cam 220-220/.600-.600 on different LS engine? If not, it would be awesome if you could. Also, what difference would it make by having a close LSA (112) and a wider LISA(115)? Thanks. Keep it up bro!!
The difference in LSA is where it starts making power.. starting lower or higher in the rpm range depending on your combo and stall.. Low LSA=lower rpm power.. higher LSA=higher rpm power.. also TSP does dyno videos of their cams.. search them on CZcams.
Love the testing!!! Thank you!!!!!
Sold my ls3 for a ls7....no replacement for displacement 😎
Hey ohhh. Thinking about doing a 403 stroker to my L76.
12:55 mark starts the 6.2L.
Very informative!! Thanks for the vid.
Bruhh when he said “different strokes for different folks” I was dead
You don't even know what stroke is in an engine
I like your videos, but could you get a little more into the controls? Factory modified vs aftermarket
Like why do you use the Holley stuff, how much tuning do you do for each different set up, how hard and the pluses and minuses of each?
Another great video. Thoughts on providing rough cost estimates for each setup? Excluding motor costs.
Some class rules don't allow boost. It's nice to see some solid na numbers
Ever heard the old saying if it ain't broke don't fix it?... That's boost. Yes there are more expensive ways to make the same power, but it comes at the cost of drivability. The real question is which boost is the right boost for you.
Unless of course you trying to fit into rules for some racing class etc, we run 6.0L max rule unless your boosted then 3.5L, yeah I know you can make 1000hp boosted 3.0L etc but not for same money looking at here for 600hp
@@Hitman-ds1ei yes of course there will always be times you are trying to fit within rules, but for the average punter, it really is hard to pass up the value of a cheap turbo at low hp levels. Let's face it most of us don't have money falling out of our pockets (there was a time, but no longer) and bang for buck it is hard to go past boost.
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering agreed
Oh, The 6 hundy combos. Mint👌🏻👍🏻
Already hit the like button from the intro alone lol
Thank you for keeping up with us N/A people. Looking for an L99 500hp setup for my 73 RS (keeping the 6L80E). Want a fat torque curve for autoX/PDE days
Make ur car fbo from Texas speed n get a stage 3 or 4 cam n after market head you will be pushing 520-30 hp to the wheel but u have to change ur injector n fuel pump (l99 6.2 Camaro ss auto)
It would be cool to see these setups under boost that way we can see the further potential, not theoretical, these combos would make if the N/A guys do decide to crossover to the darkside
More power. Turbo 5.3 . Or 6.0 ? Turbo everything. Love the spool . Turbo sounds
Why is my Facebook just now suggesting these videos?!
hey Richard amazing video every time Man! I watched one of your video with ls twin turbo went over 1400hp? what kind of transmission you can used for that kind of power?
very modified 4l80e maybe (not sure)
@@richardholdener1727 thank you Richard
I love these "Recipes" videos. Please make some Recipes videos for the K series.
Richard you on a roll 💪🏿😎
Looking to do this setup with factory ls3 heads and intake on a lq9
5.7 w/ ported Big valve 862/706 heads will make 600hp BUT be warned you’ll need to run more than pump gas unless you set the DCR to work with 93 octane with the valve timing. JD
Would love to see a nitrous 1st gen sbc 383
Hey! What about the ins and outs of dyno tuning? Before and after mods. Injectors, charger, turbo, cam, etc
Yep. Turbo feel too elastic to me. I prefer less acceleration but more throttle response
The ls3 mods on a 6.0 would be a good comparison. Do they make a super victor for a 5.3/4.8? If they do that would be a cool test!
Send It!!!
Have you ever tried your 'go-to' Comp cam with a tighter LSA? I noticed tq/hp was just a hair lower than the stock LS3 cam, think it would have brought lower end tq/hp up and kept the top end? Been watching a lot of your LS videos, researching an LS build for my G-Body Malibu. Keep doing the Lord's work! 😂
I've also been curious... are the gains from the larger bore/unshrouding of the LS3 that much more than just finding an LY6, given the same cam?
McRib and synchronized swimming had me dying!! LOL
Thank you for all the knowledge 🙏
Could you put that 383 under some boost in a video to see what happens??
The biggest isue with putting adders on a stock LS bottom end is the pistons. The ring lands are to narrow, which allows "burn through," and, the hypertutatic material shatters like a ww2 pineapple granade, destroying the engine. It would be good to know what a stock long-block, sans the stock pistons, would hold, reliably.
Could you please make a video about what you do to the inspect a junkyard motor before you buy it/ things to look for and what to avoid?
if it spins-it wins
Can we get a ls 416 vs sbc 415 video? Both stroker setups. Would like to see how they perform against each other.
Help me with a combo for the 5.7 :) Power and torque without losing midrange. Which Factory heads would be best to bolt on? which give me better compression while still having good squish area and combustion design to allow for decent timing. which heads respond to porting, which are the best bolt on option no work needed etc video idea? :D
All heads respond to porting, milling and porting 243 heads work well. Same for just porting the 706.
Have you ever ran a comp thumper cam or similar with a 109° LSA? I love the sound, but am curious about actual power curve/gains on a 5.3 LC9
I love your vids!!
Love your vids . I was thinking about getting a 94 z28 camaro v8 auto . I don't have alot of cash 117000 miles on it and was interested in your opinion cheapest highest power for 2k max prefer way less lol . It's going to be daily driven ok if it's big cam and need to pedal to keep alive or what not . I don't have a shop so can't easily pull motor
Another good vid!
Turbo LS is the shit cuz my uncle Richard says so!!
Any tests comparing fuel injection to intake and carb on an LS
800 HORSEPOWER I NEED MORE!
Richard do you have any vids 5.3 with 3 types of blowers how there set up . I love that sound .. not everybody want a Turbo.
I have run a roots, twin screw and centrifugal on LS motors, but not all on the same one like the vids I have up on the Mod Ford and Honda
So what happens if I port heads n block both bore.30 over with good 585 lift cam on lq9 an I still making those numbers?
you need more than lift-properly ported stock heads can make lots of power (see big cath head test vid), and you need a good intake
Hey brother love your content ! I am currently looking for a motor for my cutlass supreme g body and did not wanna go with a sbc and thinking ls this time , would you recommend the 6'0 l if i wanted to hit 600 NA or is the 6L good for boost aswell ? i am new to the ls scene
BOOST WORKS-600 NA HP IS HARD AND COSTS A LOT
Imagine there was only one Richard Holdener. Oh wait, there is only one 😢😢😢
Have any info on the forgotten 8.1l vortec? Hard to go wrong with 496ci lol
great video....keep them coming...
When you put the turbo on the 4.8 that is all you did you bib not change anything else ,the 4.8 is bone stock thanks for the info Richard i am still learning about the LS
I just found your channel recently while looking for information for my 5.7 ls1 build and I’m liking the content! But there’s not a lot, if any torque builds only horse power builds... I’m swapping the engine into a 3t/6600lbs four wheeled drive wagon and I’ll be hopping to do the right mods to gain fuel economy and power. I’ve had great success with just bolt ons like headers, 100cpi cats, sports mufflers, otr and a fast lsxr manifold with the 92mm tb that made 315hp at the wheels in the donor car which weighs 1000kg/2200lbs less.
My question to you would be, what cam would you use for my goal with a stock bottom end? And with match ported heads to the headers and lsxr with the 102mm tb what figures would you expect with your experience??
Great content love finding all this into ! I have the comp 54-458-11 227/235 cam in my 6.0 and made 470wheel hp. Would I see much gaiins if I upgraded to your go-to cam the 54-459-11 at 231-247 ? Id love to crack 500. Thanks for the work you do!
see the 227 vs 231 cam test-that video is up
@@richardholdener1727 where is it please I can't find it
Good information please keep it coming
Richard you should try making 700hp on an LSA SC on 4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0 and 6.2.
Hey Richard love the videos. Newbie question here. Just got a junkyard 5.3. And would love to build that stroker LOL. So on that 5.3 383 stroker. With the 4 inch crank and 3.905 Bore. What length rod are you guys running and what is the compression height on the piston you are running? Thanks for your help in advance
I think I'd rather go with an high compression iron ls1 instead of a 383 strokerif it's only a around 20hp difference and have more reliability and longer life of the motor
@@dj4monie what you think
I’m new but man do I love this channel. Hoping you can help. I have a 03 Monte Carlo with a 5.3 LS small block in it from a 07 SS. What would you suggest to make about 550-650hp?
BOOST
I want to stroke my LS1 to 383 run low compression and a supercharger. The goal would be 600 hspr on 92 octane. Any tips?
you can easily make 600 hp with a cam, springs and the stock displacement LS1-or you can add the 4.0-inch stroke crank (you can't bore the LS1 block)
I love the video's thanks for the info. I have a 1980 Camaro that I put a 454bb with stock bottom, medium Cam, Header, 750 Edelbroc carb, 4speed Muncie. But I also a complete LS3 sitting on the stand. would you swap and what all would you do in either case?
Depends. If you want it to handle well, the ls3 is way lighter. The 454 will probably make plenty of straight line power though