Similar Micro 9, BUT . . . FN Reflex vs Springfield Hellcat
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- čas přidán 7. 12. 2023
- Which one (of these) would I choose? Springfield Armory Hellcat and the FN Reflex. Both are chambered in 9mm, have optic ready versions available, and the flush fit mag holds 10 or more rounds. They are about 1 inch wide and about 4 inches tall, barrels are 3.0 in vs 3.3 in. One is HAMMER fired and the other is STRIKER fired. (So does this mean Hammer vs Striker )
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Thank you. The comparison I was waiting for ✊
We hope it helps you make your decision.
Ahh, I remember you mentioned that issue with the Reflex's magazine in a prior video. I see you addressed it, well done sir.
Thank you - it did surprise me to have to deal with that, FN usually has great ergonomics.
Awesome video as usual. Thank you
Good video, great channel. Keep up the good work mr.
Thank you.
Excellent review.👍
I have both pistols as well, they are similar enough in size that the Reflex can be used with the Kydex holster for the Hellcat that I have.
The Reflex has taken over as my EDC, in fact I like this pistol so much I bought 3. Originally could not find an MRD, so I bought a non optics first. Then I got both the FDE & black MRD versions.
For me, the hammer fired trigger just works better than a striker fired trigger. I absolutely love these pistols and the main one I carry I have gotten around 500 rounds through it with no issues.
The one I've had the longest easily has 750 through it and I only had issues on the first range trip, and I put 300 through it. I did not clean it out of the box, I took it down and thought it looked clean, but bone dry. So I lubed it and went to the range. After about 150 to 200 rounds, I started having failure to return to battery on several occasions and had to bump the back of the slide. When I got home gave it a good cleaning and not a single issue since. The other two I cleaned before the range & they have never had a failure. So maybe there was some packing grease or something I missed.🤷♂
How has the Reflex held up? Do you carry it? Any rust ?
@@AAA22323 I do carry it daily, and I have not had any issues.
But I am not the most abusive out there. I don't get into many dirty situations any more. In fact, going to the range is probably the dirtiest I get, and the dirtiest the gun gets.🤷♂ The one I carry definitely gets the most range time, no sense wearing out all 3. But other than 300 to 400 down range in a month, it doesn't get that dirty from carrying.
Another interesting review of yours. My husband and I thoroughly enjoy your informative reviews.
We hope you review the HK micro compact when it's released tentatively in 2024. Thank you again 🙏
Thank you. We will definitely be watching for it. HK makes excellent pistols.
I appreciate the objective analysis, as much as any review can be objective. Thank you.
Thank you.
Great video and very informative.
Thank you.
Thank you thank you for the indept trigger comparison.
Been hearing about the FN Reflex shooting to the lower left.
Not true
That guy shoots low left with every gun lol
Check the barrel twist
@@dtrain3219 yes i've heard it does as well. Very many guntubers have made videos confirming this. I was originally interested in the Reflex. but not buying unless FN addresses the issue.
You'll see the same thing with hellcats. Right handed shooters tend to do that with micros
Sorry, if I have/had to get a "grip sleeve".... I bought the WRONG damn gun. Or I'm to darn picky! 😂
“If I have to add a grip sleeve” …. They are good for Mexican carry, anti slip; good if the handle texture is so aggressive it tears up skin and clothing; good if you use the same model pistol for carry (no extra grip to preserve maximum thinness) and home defense (fatter grip).
@@mdubb4855 I'd never carry a gun like that without a holster.
@@Asidebar snap on trigger cover
@@mdubb4855what is “Mexican carry”? Lol
I’m not into the technical information when I have to use a gun for self defense (I’m not going to pause and analyze why I bought the gun), when I first shot the gun at my range, and I don’t generally like polymer handguns, my edc is the Kimber micro-9 and SW Shield 45, BUT, when I shot the FN Reflex at the range, the the GRIP and TRIGGER PULL, sold me right away, groupings at 10 yds was right on…I tried the hellcat and wasn’t satisfied with the ergonomics of the gun. The FN Reflex Grip and trigger pull is what sold me…btw, I added a hogue sleeve and “oh boy” what a grip….
I'm strongly considering purchasing a Reflex since I've heard good things about it, particularly with regard to shootability and ease of racking. I've tried the Hellcat three times and hated it each time, but I love the P365 pistols and the S&W CSX. How does the Reflex compare to the P365 or even the Shield Plus?
9 mil ridge did a video of the p365 vs reflex and it seemed to me he liked the fn more but you can watch it your self not the best video on the internet but
Both nice pistols.
U notch sights are great
I love the U notch sights. I carry a Hellcat Pro
@@Asidebar Mine is an XD-M Elite OSP 10mm compact.
I prefer 3 dot for sure. It’s funny how Glock sights got shit on for years and years.
Pinky extensions are very much needed when carrying or operating subcompact guns.
Pinky extensions are unnecessary for a carry weapon. With training you’ll find it’s not needed for full support.
@@crabbyturtle1594 - NOT TRUE! Depends on size of ones hand. The pistol will be easier and better to control with a longer grip for the little finger to hold it.
@@Asidebar You shouldn't be squeezing with the little finger anyway. That's the main reason why people so often shoot low and left.
I don't have pinky fingers.
Can you compare the Reflex to the p365.?
It's on our list to do.
@@HammerStrikerI’m very curious about this comparison - some have said thickness is the same between FN and sig, others have said FN is ever so slightly thicker - idk if it’s much of a difference. Great videos as always . I plan to either get the FN or the Hk when it comes out.
Did u shave down the extractor in the fn flex 9mm
almost bought the fn until i saw what happens to the fn when the slide does not come all the way back.....garbage..no wonder there are so many for sale on broker sites...bought the hellcat fde instead
Had the exact same issue with the magazine corner digging into my palm. Loved except for that
I like apex t3 + stainless steel striker sleeve for hellcat
fn reflex has the innovative internal hammer. but slide must be cycled all the way back.l each time. imagine having front heavy aftermarket accessories on it. what if it affects cycle battery? also unlike 1911, can’t tell whether it’s loaded or not
I prefer hellcat’s proven records
the slide is much easier to pull back on the fn and hopefully if you conceal carry you already have a round loaded up so i wouldn’t say there’s any reason for it to not go into battery
i’ve never went off the little thing sticking up or whatever sayin a gun is loaded i always and i think everyone should pull the slide back and look them selves.
is there a reliability difference in an internal hammer fire vs striker fire
Does the FN Not have a back removable plate to take out the firing pin ??
It’s internal hammer fired so likely has a roll pin in the slide to take out the firing pin and firing pin block
The Reflex is a really nice color
Ive owned both and I kept the FN hellcat had to go, it’s recoil just seems worse. Love the feel of the grip on FN and love the trigger. But both good guns.
You kept the FN hellcat?
I went with the hellcat. I prefer a manual safety AIWB
Csn j buy this s one avs both of tgesd also Jefferson county police department
Price makes them undesirable. They are in a competitive market but are maintaining a financial crevice that no one will cross when there are others just as reliable but more, quite a bit more, inexpensive.
Like what. Don't say Taurus GX4 or Canik Mete. They are unreliable. You may or may not get one that works. Not worth my life. Maybe a Shield Plus but that gun is bigger and heavier
To add to what the other person said, the Diamondback DB9 is smaller and much cheaper. However, the owner of that particular pistol said it needed to be cleaned weekly in order to be reliable. Generally, when comparing firearms of similar size and performance, price is dictated by a number of factors, one of which is quality. Say what you will about the Hellcat, HS Produkt manufacturers every part of all their firearms in one place. That gives them complete control of quality. They also have a lifetime warranty on the pistols, and it follows the pistol to second-hand owners. I know Taurus has a similar lifetime warranty.
Maybe you would suggest the Mossberg, which many other reviewers mention 'rattles like a maraca," and that is not the most reassuring thing to hear.
@@bbazzracingCanik rushed the MC9, why do you think the GX4 is unreliable? Taurus’s G series seems to be pretty good. No?
@@newy219 do your googles about the gx4 lots of people have issues with. Trigger, striker, feeding issues. And there is a recall.
@@bbazzracing yeah if you Google enough all guns will have that, I’ve heard plenty of people say the exact opposite. Then again I agree you typically pay for what you get and it won’t go through the same level of quality control. Which is why I’m considering switching from my GX4 (which wasn’t in the recall).
Springfield Armory funded gun control legislation in Illinois, but blamed a PR firm when caught.
So with that in mind, never Springfield Armory. But what else do you expect from an importer than bought an iconic name?
Interesting.... I did not know that. Thank you for that information.
Springfield is arming American citizens there actions speak louder then your words. I'm guessing you don't mind using CZcams, Walmart, Facebook, Apple, the big banks and all kinds of other products from companies who have done much worse. It's funny how most people only boycott what's convenient.
@@lablepac It's not true. The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), of which Springfield was a member, agreed to support one gun bill for concessions in other areas. Springfield left the organization and made a statement denouncing the action. Some people just like spreading rumors and lies.