FN REFLEX
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- čas přidán 7. 02. 2024
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The new FN REFLEX is clearly after its share of the micro-9 market for concealed carry - but it is ready for the job? Based on my limited testing, I'm not sure... here's my review.
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So i recently purchaed this gun. Optics model, and i absolutely love it.
It had some feeding issues ootb but with a clean and oil, and a little polishing of the very steep ramp, its been 100% reliable with 500 rounds of mixed ammo. Its also absurdly accurate at 20 to 25' shooting fairly rapid 2.5" groups. It comes back on target easily and is a lot easier to hang onto than a p365, or shield plus.
I had no low left issues at all. But i run an optic.
Very happy with it.
I almost purchased one a couple days ago. But after everything I’ve been hearing, I think I’ll wait a while. Thank you for the video.
What are you hearing?
What are you 'hearing'?
Hello, "Justin"! Your videos always offer clear videos, creative viewing angles, realistic scenarios, and clear, concise narratives. Thank you!
Wow, thanks!
@@JustinOpinionChannel I'm pleased to see you retain techniques from your Mas Ayood training courses, too. Bravo!
I appreciate the honest review, showing that it’s a good pistol but definitely has some issues.
Glad to see I’m not the only one that struggles with the Reflex. I really wanted to love this pistol but I can’t seem to get consistently good shot groups. Fortunately I just went back to carrying a CZ P10S. It is larger but is breeze to shoot nice groups with.
Good honest review, value in the size comparison against the other pistols, much appreciated. I've heard about numerous other issues with the gun shooting low left and some have had issues with failure to feed...definitely some teething issues that FN would need to admit and step-up to make it right. There is a break-in period per FN, but the issues mentioned seem to be well past the 200 rounds. I have much more respect and trust for companies that don't play games and bury issues when new models are released. Nobody wants to chase issues and deal with companies that pretend, they just want it made right without a bunch of hassle. Especially when there are a lot of great carry options these days!
I know the owner has put some rounds through it, but not sure how many. Problem is, you KNOW that people will buy it for CCW and carry it without ever shooting it first.
You mean like Sig does!
Thanks Justin for the review, you may have got a bad handgun from your dealer. My high power has operated flawless thru 1200 rounds. I would have purchased this when it was introduced but at that time never ran across one. At 12 yards you did some great shooting, especially with the hellcat.
The biggest hurdle FN Reflex has to overcome is the FN's reputation of abandoning perfectly functional guns instead of developing them over the years. Buying FN Reflex now is a gamble comparable to buying Hudson H9 back in the day (I chose that example because the gamble didn't pay out for H9). If you buy a new gun every 2 years anyway, then it's probably safe for you to buy purely on performance out of the box.
Reading about all these issues or people hearing about issues with this FN but mine has not missed a beat at almost 500 rounds now. It’s a very easy gun to keep on target out of every small gun I’ve shot. The trigger is amazing and just gets better as you shoot it. Now I just need to get eyeglasses I can’t afford just yet but when I get em then I’ll throw an optic on and I have a feeling it’ll be a dream to shoot!
I just purchased one a few days ago I haven't shot it yet but immediately out of the box it would not load or extract ammo so I did the CZcams gunsmith mods i rounded off the extractor and polished the feed ramp it made a huge difference but I still haven't fired it yet I would wait a while on this one me personally I love modding and fixing weapons. and I think they all had their issues when released
Holster: I already had a Werkz, M6 IWB holster for my P365X Macro with a Streamlight TLR-8G light. I tried the same light on my new Reflex and it fits the same holster very well.
I'm a Shield plus guy. But this pistol seems like a solid choice
Just bought one today. Does not have optic cut out & I hope this was not a mistake.
My Reflex MRD has none of the issues others have reported with theirs. No feeling issues, no low and left issue. Haven't changed anything about it or cleaned in in over 700rnds and it's running great. Even hit about 10/15rnds of 115gr Speer Gold Dot JHPs on a torso sized metal plate about 125yards out. I carried it on a road trip, while keeping my FNX45 close at hand in a crossbody sling pack, and have no complaints.
I believe in carrying the largest pistol you can practically conceal, and for me, that's my FNX45, since SIG has stopped producing my go to P229(.357SIG. I personally am not a fan of the "sub 4"" pistols, but bought this one, as a compromise because my wife would like me to buy a couple of suits for some "dressy" type date nights. I figured if I can't carry my FNX or P229, then this would be better than just a knife, or sharp stick I may find laying around. Still, if I cannot seem to effectively conceal the FNX while dressed up (without looking like I'm wearing my dad's suit as a kid) and the P229 is still doable, I may just have to go with a 9mm P229 unless, or til, SIG starts making factory P229s in .357SIG again, or offers the ability to truly custom order. I don't trust Sig's striker pistols, and generally do not like striker fired pistols anyway. That's what steered me toward trying out the Reflex.
The beauty of the Reflex is the EASE of racking the slide.
Especially if you have to deal with arthritis.
I really like this handgun, great to carry, fit and finish is great also, only issue is I shoot a bit low to the left with it. Good consistent groups, but ~2” low and left at 7 yards. Not a big issue at this distance but I haven’t shot it at further distances as it is really not made for long shooting.
The sig also had many issues when it came out which took them time to get fixed, specifically it would drag the striker on the casing and break the striker. Since they fixed that issue they are now well trusted and carried. You did shoot the Springfield better but it needed an after market trigger where as the FN had a nice trigger out the box. I’m not certain there wasn’t a real issue with your particular FN, but like you said it could just need to be broken in which just means it has good tolerances if that is the case. You did shoot the FN better than the Sig even though you have more experience with the sig and I think that’s noteworthy as well. I would personally be interested in seeing if these minor issues were resolved after a break in period and more time behind the trigger. Thanks for the review.
Yep - sample size of one, and one range trip. I just have to report the experience I have, which includes malfunctions or potential concerns. As I say in the video, I really love the gun and I hope those questions are resolved.
Do the Sigs still rust? The Macros?
Put 250 rounds of 115gr Blazer Brass through my brand new reflex today and only had one instance where I had to bump the back of the slide to knock it into battery maybe 100 rounds in. Can’t speak much for the low and left issue people are having as I run a Romeo Zero on mine and it’s dead on accurate with great groups. The red dot is right over my front sight so I can’t imagine the irons would be far off. I’m happy with it and can’t wait to run it some more.
Awesome! Would be nice if the problems I experiences were anomalous to this one sample. As for the low left thing everyone talks about - that's just shooter error (me included).
Great video and comparison. Def not gonna be running out to replace me 365, 365 xl or x macro for carry any time soon.
I have the same problem with my FN locking back on the last round, it seems to only be a problem with the 15 round mags, 11 round mags work fine.
I noted both of Justin's last round failure to feeds were with two different 10-round magazines.
Reflex ftw. I’m glad I found it and the hellcat has been retired to the safe
The spring in the magwell probably rode up due to improper installation in the factory. Push it back down and the mags will shoot out
My favorite is the Hellcat
I have this gun and love it. Be forewarned however, that I cannot find a pic mount laser only. The pic rail on this gun is narrower than standard rails. So after trying three different manufacturers lights, lasers, and combos, I emailed FN and they told me that the only rail mount accessory that fits is a Streamlight TLR8 Sub, which is a laser/light combo. FN says that the Reflex rail is similar to a Glock 43X MOS rail, and that accessories for that gun will work on the Reflex. However, the Glock accessories that I found are either trigger guard mount or guide rod related…..
Whether I am interested or not in a review. I tend to watch your videos over anyone else. I prefer your presentation. Even if I totally vibe the product placement at times. I would rather watch your advertisement over anyone else.
I want an FN Reflex, this will tell me I need to keep waiting and buy NIB.
Some experience of myself....
- Bought a hellcat that shot everything to the left. Reproduced with a a competent shooter. Got rid of it.
- Have a P365 XL slide Macro frame currently. Front night sight, dead. But otherwise no failures.
- Glock 26, failures here and there over the 15+ years of ownership.
- Glock 42 (380 I know) I am on my second, and these things appear to be ammo sensitive or luck of the draw. If it doesn't feed freedom I will abandon the g42
- Glock 43 I have rented and borrowed several times. Other then a tad snappy when shooting nato ammo it works
- shield, I have borrowed, nowhere near as snappy.
I found in my experience that the FN reflex has a false reset which shouldn't bother you if you are experienced, but slow accurate fire would annoy me.
As far as function it appears to be a double stack Smith & Wesson 9 EZ. I’ve been telling S&W they need to make a “Pro” double stack version of both EZ’s, I’d like that 380 EZ with double stack capacity.
Ill stick with the 365 platform and variants.
Nice review. But, I'm going to stay with my Hellcat Pro. 😊
i hope they do a recall on the FN i was actually looking to buy it
I saw a reference online that referenced either the Reflex manual, or patent drawing that indicated they would release a version with a manual safety. Anyone else see or heard this?
For your readers who own a Reflex: The Streamlight TLR-8 Sub (and 7 Sub) fit this pistol great. With said lights, the Werkz M6 IWB is a nice holster.
Might as well get a Glock 19 if you’re going to put a light on it.
Very nice presentation as always. Sorry but never cared much for FN products. Being that said as a member of the Croation brotherhood of the XD I'll stick with my Hellcat and on occasion the P365-380.
Nice looking pistol. Needs a decocker.
If you decock it, it will not shoot. It is SA
Yes - wish this was a both a single and double action with a decocker.
Seems snappier than my 365
Mine is at 250 rounds I shot it all at once I had two light primer strikes, countless failures to get into battery and it shoots very low. I’m gunna run another 250 rounds if I still have issues after that she’s going back to FN!
I just got the reflex and I'm about 150 rounds in and I have ftfs it's working out but I still will not trust my life to it yet
I really want to like the Reflex but just too many issues reported and FN refusing to listen. Will stick with the Hellcat Pro and 365.
I recently purchased the FN Reflex and this is the first firearm I’ve purchase with an internal hammer. I carry all my EDC’s with a round in the chamber including my 1911’s cocked and locked. My question is, is it safe to carry the Reflex with a round in the chamber, cocked but there is no lock? Has anybody heard of any safety issues with the Reflex? I do use a kydex holster, specifically made for the FN Reflex.
Taurus gx4 is currently the best micro 9. Much better trigger than the 365 and hellcat.
The FN reflex is defective.. mine shot low left and couldn't hold a group no matter who shot it. FN wouldn't help at all, wouldn't even look at my proof video (or wouldn't admit it). Back to back shot a 1" group with a Taurus gx4 and couldn't even get a 6" group with the reflex at 7 yards.
First terrible experience with FN. Looks like yours is doing the same thing 🤣
Something wrong with that gun. FN won't admit it though
Hi point 10mm for the win
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Looks nice. Can’t imagine why they didn’t release it cut for optics though. I’m sure that model will come eventually.
The reflex comes in an optics ready version. It came out the same time as the regular version.
MRD versions are totally available just hard to get.
I've never seen anyone else have these issues. Oil the normal areas inside the slide and maybe oil the mag release up and see if it works better? If all else fails, lubricate! haha
not shooting low left?
With such a light trigger, FN should have made it double action with a decocker.
Too many feeding issues with my FN Reflex. I used different ammo, different grain, different brand, and clean/lube the hell out of this thing, but still experiencing ftf. Heard it had something to do with the extractor being squared but not sure.
I just bought mine yesterday and I'm having feeding issues right out of the box as well...very disappointing. Contacted FN and will probably send it in to see what they say.
@@raphaelanderson3552 I can predict their suggestion: use more expensive brand ammo @124gr until the gun breaks in. This didn’t work; there is an engineering problem with the gun that FN refuse to admit.
when it comes to triggers, it is about what you are used to. You can learn to shoot almost anything very well with practice. There is not much of a wall on the trigger of the reflex and it is way to light for a carry gun for me. Use what you like!
It keeps getting a bit lighter I feel like after going thru about 500 rounds. I still carry it tho my trigger is covered so I feel safe with it
Have not tried the FN yet but have the 365 and the Hellcat and IMHO the Hellcat has significantly more recoil than my 365 for my dime, and the 365 is more accurate than the Hellcat in my hands.
I shot this gun and the hellcat and hands down the FN reflex wins in this situation because of fhe trigger alone. Just my opinion and my shooting style I can see others choosing either of the other guns .
Watch Honest Outlaws review, I had the same thing. This is a decent gun with the wrong sights
I took my Reflex out for the 1st time 300 rounds no issues. Use the we the people Kydex holster. Yea I feel confident that it will perform in a bad situation.
I want a tiny hammer fired 9. Maybe I'll just stick with my H&K P2000.
You have to be aggressive racking the slide I had that problem. As far as accuracy mine shoots well
That pistol needs a good break in and cleaning. Seems okay.
Hell(cat)yeah.
I tried the FN and didn’t like it , I prefer my original Smith and Wesson Shield
With an internal hammer, I want a thumb safety!
I just feel better with a safety when carrying one in "Da Pipe" with an internal hammer I cannot visualize ... BUMMER... I like my FNS 9mm/40!!!
Why? What's the difference in your mind between a cocked striker and a cocked hammer?
@@maximusjoseppi5904 Ummmm Sig 320 ...
But in reality, I like a Thumb safety PERIOD!
Love it on my LC9S ...
Internal hammer on a Pistol is just scary to me!
My 92X w/ EXPOSED hammer doesn't bother me but I can wrap a strap over the hammer and SEE IT!
good point. No difference
Did not mention width nor Bore-Axis height on the firearm. Two highly important aspects.
I think the visual comparison to two other well-known pistols provided that information. All other specification numbers are easy to reference.
FN reminds me of GLOCK, resting on their laurels with no major upgrades. The wow factor faded long ago.
I think this is a fairly accurate statement. FN making the reflex is one of the first time in well....forever that they have catered to a civilian market.
Similarly with glock releasing the 43/42/44 rare to cater to our market.
Both Glock and FN do not care about civilian sales. This is not meant to be mean. Both are busy arming military's to care about the civilian market.
It’s cool, but late to the game. P365 with a Wilson Combat grip 💥👊🏼
I really want to like the FN Reflex (love my 509) but you shoot low left with it, and I've seen many other YT reviews on this gun with the same results. It shoots low left. The 365 had issues early and have clearly been corrected. I think FN needs to fine tune this weapon. I won't buy it now. Maybe down the road, not now.
I love my 509 as well and to me it’s the best gun in that class I’ve fired. With small pistols it’s very common that right handed people shoot low and left. Often times that’s due to the shooter and less to do with the pistol itself, perhaps that is the case esp since this was his first time firing it. I would try shooting it from a vice and if the pistol continues then I would simply make a small adjustment to the sights so that it’s only shooting low and then change the point of aim slightly to a 12 o’clock hold
So much for hammer-fired being more accurate than a striker fired pistol... I have a 509 T and am equally unimpressed wth FN pistol accuracy. Reliability, build quality and general feel is good... accuracy and trigger - not so much.
I've seen multiple people shoot this gun low and to the left, I've also seen a few malfunctions here and there. The real killer for me, it's the fact that the gun has a sub 5lb trigger with no safety at all, not even a trigger dongle. That is extremely unsafe to the point of negligence on the part of FN. I get that that makes the gun fast and fun, but if you ever make the slightest mistake with it you're going to have a bad day. Unacceptable for any carry gun to not require a determined effort to pull the trigger.
It’s got a hinged trigger safety like the older model M&Ps. That hinge design is the safety.
The trigger isn't any lighter than a shield or GX4. It's different but I don't feel it's easier to overcome than any of the other 5ish lb triggers I've shot. It does have a long take up and a hinge so it's not exactly a hair trigger by any means.
G 26 ❤. The best
🤣 bro it's not 1995... There are far better modern guns. Trade that brick in and grab yourself a hellcat, gx4, shield, or 365.
Same or better capacity, half the size, lighter, better trigger, better sights, better texturing. Check them out
My Smith & Wesson Shield Plus would like to answer that question 🙋🏽♂️
It's is clear to me.. your not talking the same time between aim and trigger shots. I'm far Far from a knowledge heavy arm's shooter .. however , more tightened steps need to be taken when giving deep opinions, as you say when making a call on new arm's vs other know arm's of same type of comparison
Sig better if you want a pocket gun.
You took wayyy more time of aim with the hell cat.. use a shot timer.😂😂😂
Justin, stick with the Sig. The shots that weren’t in the bull was your fault not the gun.
Which is why I always say, "the one I shoot best". Almost every gun is capable of much better accuracy from a vise than I can ever get from it. Understanding why I do or do not shoot it well is what I try to convey.
Yeeeeeaa. Looks like FN got to look at that design. Or maybe you got ahold of a poorly made one.
SAO pistol with no manual safety and a 4 lb trigger. My head says no thank you but my nuts say hell no!
I'm suprised that gun companies suffer from what I call "infinite, Neverending stupidity". For example, they'll put on a Hillary Hole safety, won't change their grip angle, and in this case continue to install giant billboard advertising on the sides of their slides. Regardless of what customers want.
Another single action whether striker or hammer but with no manual safety like carrying a 1911 without a grip safety and without a manual safety. Nature will take its course.
I really don't understand this comment. If you are putting the gun in the holster before jamming it in your pants when starting the day and then grabbing the gun with the holster altogether when you are removing it you will never accidentally squeeze a round off. In my 8 years of conceal carrying I have practiced this routine and never came close to squeezing a round off accidentally. I've been carrying the reflex for a year strong side in a Desantis holster made for it never had an issue.
You need training big time
@@Tom-cp6yjthis is how 1911 people are.
I'd bet he is a Glock guy.
@@Lexicologist1971 He has been lucky so far that nothing has snagged that trigger but something will eventually when he least expects it. He will have to take the gun in and out of the holster while in his pants when shooting and practicing and all it takes is one time for something to snag. Carry Condition Zero is not safe. Again, nature will take its course.
Just new not the best. It has an accuracy issue.
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No 43x on there?
Or the M&P Shield Plus. The Shield once outsold nearly everything for concealed carry and now isn't even an honorable mention. Too bad..
A 43x is a horrendous gun man 🤣 it's the size of a g19 with the capacity of a micro compact gun... Glock can't compete in a modern market
@@aaronneumeyer5572it's because it's bigger than all the others with the same or less capacity competing in a category that size to capacity ratio is what matters. They messed up when they made it thinking people wouldn't care if it was bigger in every dimension.. same rain the r7 mako is a flop
@@maximusjoseppi5904it’s not horrendous it’s actually decent only drawback is the capacity
@@RicardoCray ? That is enough to make it horrendous.. it also has no pic rail, bad sights, bad ergos, bad trigger, bad magazines, bad serrations, bad stippling, bad grip angle, and yes the capacity is also 50% less than it should be. Oh and it costs more than much better guns.
It's a terrible gun haha. Glock can't compete in a modern market if you're being objective
FN’s marketing people are watching this right now and are cringing lol
LOL, they would be if I were a big channel. They're probably not aware this video exists, nor will they be.
P365xl whoops em all
I have seen several owners of the reflex experience it shooting low left or just left of target.. not sure if that issue has been fixed but that is enough for me to say.. yeah, I'm going to pass.. aside from the reliability issues you experienced.. I enjoy your videos.. so the question today is, what is the best edc for comfort, reliable, good round count and manageable recoil .. what is overall the best in your opinion Justin? 43x, hellcat, srt9micro, p365 line, masada slim, shield plus, 503 /509 FN, G26, G19.. ?? Thanks. 😁
The one you'll shoot well and is comfortable to carry is the best one. Not the same gun for everyone.
No way is a hellcat softer shooting than a p365.
Facts the P365 not that snappy 😂😂😂😂
I'm an unashamed FN fan boy, all my FN's have been 100% reliable out of the box. With that being said, I'll not be purchasing a Reflex with the said issues. Also it's not left-handed friendly like the other FN's.
Throw away the fn gun and ccw the hellcat or sig.
Hell Cat wins.
Hellcat is a decent gun. SA on the other hand, has a really poor 2A history and much of their stuff, including the hellcats are Croation imports.
FN Trigger >
No way
Na
I like this trigger over the hell cat 🐈
😌 'promosm'