Sur Ron Big Wheels | The Enduro Killer Upgrade
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- This time I'm testing what I call the "enduro wheels". It's a 21" front wheel complemented by an 18" rear. This setup is high demand as it has some interesting characteristics to offer:
- the rear wheel offers a lot of traction and dampening,
- the front wheel helps rolling over stuff and gnarly terrains.
The front wheel is bigger, it rolls over rocks, logs and roots effortlessly, so it really helps on these rougher terrains and gnarly rides.
Regarding the rear wheel, the 18" tyre is larger and bigger, with a huge air volume. So it provides a lot of cushion and allows you to ride fast even over a terrain covered with rocks. In addition, as it's wider than stock, it has a bigger contact surface and provides a lot of traction, offering new climbing abilities.
List of upgrades and parts on our Sur Ron
Best Value Upgrades
S3 Handlebar Grips mto.bike/product/s3-enduro-mx...
Spank Bars mto.bike/product/spank-spoon-...
Rear shock coil/spring mto.bike/product/rear-suspens...
High quality brake pads mto.bike/product/brake-author...
Hope Floating Disc mto.bike/product/hope-floatin...
S3 Enduro Foot Pegs mto.bike/product/s3-enduro-fo...
58T Sprocket mto.bike/product/58t-coloured...
Primary chain kit mto.bike/product/sur-ron-prim...
Bash Guard
Chassis Upgrades
Fox 40 Black Edition mto.bike/product/fox-40-black...
Reinforced Wheels mto.bike/category/wheels/
18" Tire mto.bike/product/18-inch-off-...
21" Tire mto.bike/product/21-inch-off-...
Hope Brakes mto.bike/product/hope-tech-4-...
Sur Ron Racing Swingarm mto.bike/product/sur-ron-raci...
Power Upgrades
Battery mto.bike/category/power/
High end controller (ASI BAC, Nucular, Silixcon)
CHAPTERS
00:00 Opener
00:17 Intro
01:22 Test ride
03:17 Hillclimb challenge
03:47 Light Speed climb
04:14 Singletrack riding
04:46 Rocky terrain
05:53 Trial challenge
06:22 MTB singletrack
07:36 Xtrem uphill
09:42 Extreme trial challenge
10:18 Conclusion - Sport
Finally, a Sur Ron video showing a trail as steep and rocky as the trails I have to deal with in my area, thanks!
That was some radical riding fellas!!
👍🏼🤙🏼
GG. Et le franchissement de la souche et du rocher à la fin, très propre, bravo à vous 2.
Great content and on some challenging trails. Love it. Keep it up.
Really see the skills. Even when you fail you see the experience in dealing with it
Thanks Miguel ☺️
Toujours qualitatives tes vidéos ! Chapeau :)
Merci beaucoup 😃
That's my off-road set-up too. Love the traction and easy going over holes and ruts...
Right on!
excellent explanation of the wheel size differences. Thanks
My pleasure!
O.k. I for one love the bike and the bigger tires. Now after seeing you demo this beast gotta get one! Thanks for the video.
Hope you'll enjoy your bike man! Let me know how it feels when you get it 🙌
@@MTO_Brothers how much money total are you in it at this point?
@@guywheeler4225 it’s around 10k total with bike and upgrades
@@MTO_Brothers which upgrades have you gotten so far?
Awesome video in Tips thanks for sharing!!
Je pense que j'aurais bientôt fini de regarder toutes les vidéos de la chaine en 24h 😅
J'adore vos vidéos ! En plus d'etre super utile en terme d'informations quand tu veux rejoindre le coté électrique de la force elles sont vraiment quali !! Arrêtez surtout pas 🤩
Merci beaucoup, ça fait plaisir d’avoir des retours positifs. Ça récompense le temps passé sur les montages ☺️
@@MTO_Brothers Avec grand plaisir, les montages et le contenu sont au top donc un retour positif c'est normal :)
abonné et cloche activé 😁✌
I can see the difference from watching other youtubers videos of them being off road and it does look rough and they say its rough but this bigger tire setup looks the way to go.
😎
Sur Ron Big Wheel, now this a E-bike I would love to own, by far one from the Top-Shelf, WE live & learn!
On cherche la route, on prend la route, super trial travail, et puis a maison pour fumer un joint! :) Great CZcams Dude ! Respect
serious skills on the bike! that rock climb does not look easy
Super vidéo, merci pour les infos
J’ai découvert t‘as chaîne hier, excellentes tes vidéos!
Merci à toi 😁
Best electric bike video I've seen, period
Thanks a lot mate!
that's INSANE bro your bike looks great. lots of sweet clips in this video!!
Thanks a lot man!
Great video..I have the Enduro 21x18 set up, no complaints
Thanks! Yep for enduro 21/18 is the way to go for sure.
Love the review 👌💯
Dude you absolutely shred this thing!! Also, the 2 second pause right before you fall over at @3:26 😂😂been there, done that!
Thanks mate!
hahaha, the moment you know you're gonna fall and wait for gravity to do its thing 😝
wow i love this trail ride. 😍🔥🔥
Hello from spain!! I like one of this!!! Its Amazing!!!!
Hola! What area do you live in? We'll have them back in stock soon 👍
You swing arm is amazing I bought one it is out of this world
Glad you're enjoying it brother 🙌
@@MTO_Brothers keep up the amazing work
And me thinking about getting the Honda Navi 😂 I'm getting this one for sure 👍
You won't be disappointed!
Looks awesome!
We never get bored 😝
@3:48 Did you wheelie that uphill section?! Siiiiiiiiick!
I couldn't keep the front at bay hahaha
Elle est magnifique comme ça avec les grosses roues 😍
Love it! Great job! Look at an AT81EX Rear tire as a choice. Probably the lightest gummy tire in 18" that works for all hard enduro stuff
Thanks mate, I should definitely look into this tyre! Just gotta make sure its knobbies don't touch the chain.
@@MTO_Brothers When aired up past 10psi it is pretty narrow. At 2psi it flattens out big time and has great traction there, but i could see you having contact issues
Dimmensions of tire? Do u cut off knobies ?
@@Gonfireman Not sure on exact dimensions but the AT81EX is very small for a 18" Rear Tire Choice. When aired down it gets real short and a very wide contact patch
Super bella ...bel video... ciao dall'Italia
Amazing video congratulations to the two guys.
You can put links to buy these battery modifications, tires 21 etc. in Spain there are few options in stores .thanks again crack
Hey man! We're setting up a store where all the parts will be available. Subscribe and you'll be notified when it's out 🤟
Bravo , très beau le col de malval ! Un jour on se croisera forcément.
Avec grand plaisir ! Tu roules avec quoi ?
@@MTO_Brothers 250 yz !
@@quent527 Une très bonne bécane 😍
Hi there, love the vid :-). Just got one question. Which rims are you using ?
Super dope pic.. had to click it. brakes sound good to.. lol
Ok you convinced me I’ll save up and buy one
If you haven't got a set already, we're now selling them on our website 👍
Sweet trials loves 😍
Super vidéo! Super décor, super skills, super setup! Impressionnant, j'ai pu voir ton setup contrôleur et batterie dans la description vidéo mais pas celui de Cyprien, avez vous les mêmes?
Si non, y a t'il une grande différence en riding? Parce que dans la vidéo c'est kiff kiff on dirait
On a le même contrôleur mais Cyprien est sur une batterie d'origine (il tire quand même 8kW dessus).
Niveau setup des roues, il est en 21" à l'avant mais il a une 19" à l'arrière. Donc en descente ça l'aide bien, mais l'arrière encaisse quand même moins bien et offre pas le même grip.
Yup, selling my ZRX1200R if anyone wants it . This video convinced me! Excellent ! Do I go with the Segway or the Sur Ron ? I'm still learning.
I understand they both benefit from larger tires
They're basically both the same. The Segway gets a bluetooth app that you can use to tune some settings. I'd say get the one that comes cheaper or faster!
You are crazy man, i think i will upgrade to 21 too 🤔
Hahaha, thanks man. Yeah the 21" is a game changer, you go over everything like it was nothing.
The lighter you are, the better the suspension has to be. Cant imaging how 19“ feel like if im only 55kgs 😅. Crazy shaking i guess.
@@theblackbike9083 It shakes a bit yes. But the fork does wonders and the big wheel helps a lot in the gnarly parts!
If I was afraid of being shaken, I'd ride a road bike though hahaha
Nice job with the stump, looked like so much fun. Was the other bike (w/orange swing arm) stock power?
The other bike runs at 8kW. So it's not stock but not as much as the blue one.
This is awesome, got my Sur Ron coming in this week. Looking forward to upgrades like this in the future. Just curious, for gloves, do you guys not worry about Scaphoid protection at all? From past experiences, if I wasn't wearing gloves with the little "spine protector" on top of the glove to protect my wrist, it would have been broken for sure. Also, any shoe recommendations for rough trail riding on the bike like this? Cheers
Hey mate! Regarding gloves we use normal gloves. There's for sure better protection available but so far, fingers crossed.
Depending on te way you intend to use the bike, I'd say boots can be a must. Either full size MX boots, or smaller ones. We use the Forma low boots 🤘
Looking really good on your Surron!!
You said it’s less nimble than with the 19”, is it really disturbing?
Not disturbing. You just trade a bit of agility for a bit of stability and rolling power.
Would you be able to make a video that’s tells us about all the upgrades that have been done to the bike? Also a great video 💯
Thanks man! Yes, that's my plan dto do such a video, just need some time to have different bikes side by side and explain the different upgrade options.
Je suis à deux doigts de troquer le Gasgas contre ça quand je vois tes vidéos. 😜
En trial ça a de super capacités. Attention quand même à l'embrayage qui risque de te manquer.
Tu connais les Electric Motion ?
Nice real riding. What battery and controller are you using with your set up? Admittedly did not look through the comments to find out if that was something that was already asked. Do you guys carry an extra battery to make sure you don’t have to push it?
Hey Alex. We're using the Nucular controller. I run a 72V while my brother had a bypassed stock battery at the time.
No we don't carry a spare one as it's too heavy. We're just monitoring what we have left for a potential "pit stop".
T au top mec !!! ✌️
Those goggle are always a good laugh. Would you recommend upgrading the stock controller before getting this wheel setup?
Yeah, it's starting to become a pattern haha. You can start with the 21" with stock power, as for the 18", with a bigger sprocket, it can work with the stock controller. But you'll definitely get the most out of it with more power!
thanks for sharing. A bunch of questions.
What pressure were you running your tires? On the front end, does it still feel bone jarring or does it feel like a real MX bike (floats over stuff)...it still looked like it felt rough. I'm running a Fox40 with upgraded springs and a 26" MTB wheel (21" moto equivalent) and it's rough as hell going over rocky terrain. Takes the fun out of it...
Also, notice a big difference running the Rock Shox R2C vs. stock shock?
What avg. range are getting with the wheels and this battery setup?
Hey man.
No it clearly floats over things. The terrain is so rough is some places though that it's not a hovercraft either. When riding with friends on actual dirt bikes, I've noticed they're quite shaken too.
26" MTB isn't really comparable apart from the size. The tyre is way tighter, thus you need more pressure and it won't absorb impacts as efficiently as a moto tyre.
Regarding the sock, it's a bit better than stock, but the difference isn't night and day like the one you feel replacing the fork by a high end one.
The range didn't change much surprisingly with the power I run it at. I guess range depends more on the type of terrain than on the wheels. I guess that I wouldn't get as much range on slower trails as there's a lot of acceleration/deceleration. But on a rather high speed ride, I couldn't see any difference.
@@MTO_Brothers ok, thanks for that info, it all makes sense, helps a lot. Yeah, I run low pressure (16-18 PSI) in the 2.8" MTB tire but even then it's not enough, plus it get's a little sloshy when turning with that low of pressure. I think the moto wheel setup is the way to go for sure, not perfect but probably much better.
Salut mec, top qualité comme a ton habitude! 👌Mais perso, tu ne m'aides pas a me décider sur le choix entre 21/19 et 19/19! 🤬🤪😂
Ton frère a changé son bras oscillant?
hahaha. Désoléééé.
Tout dépend de ta taille, mon frère qui fait 1m85 préfère la roue de 21 car ça met la moto à sa taille.
Comme moi je suis un nain, j'aime bien les petites roues bien maniables. Et quand le terrain est ultra cassant, la 21 préserve un peu les bras 😉
Goog trial skills!)
Salut, super vidéo encore une fois, c'est sympa d'avoir des conseils sur des aspects technique d'upgrade. J'évolue seul avec mon SurRon et j'apprécie de trouver du bon contenu sur le sujet. J'avais dans l'idée de changer au moins ma roue avant pour la hauteur du coup je pense que ça ne va pas trainer 😁ça a l'air terrible. Tu as l'air d'avoir un bon niveau vous faites de la moto depuis longtemps avec ton pote ? Sinon est-ce possible de savoir ou tu as acheter tes jantes, quel est le modèle et le prix ? Merci d'avance et bon ride. 😉
Merci 😃
C'est un vrai plus pour le franchissement et oui, mon frère qui fait 1m85 est en 21 depuis presque un an à l'avant. Cyprien roulait en enduro et avait une 250 2T avant et moi je viens du VTT.
Pour les jantes, MP sur Insta @mtobrothers ou sur Facebook 😉
@@MTO_Brothers Ok merci je vais regarder ça 😉
well all dirt bikes have had 21 inch front 18-in rear tires for years that's all I'm used to riding so it's got to be the best setup but the electrics are on is really light it must just feel better like a regular dirt bike with those rim size tire size
MX bikes still run 19" on the rear. Only enduro use 18".
You gain in confort and traction whit the bigger wheels, but the smaller ones give you an incredible agility. There's no better really, it all depends on the terrain!
Bike park-like singletracks, I'd go 19" all the way. Gnarly sandy, rocky enduro trails with loads of roots, 21/18 without an hesitation 👌
Is the power of the motor at an agency where nothing happened, 60 volts at 32 amps at 3000 watts?
Great video dude!!!
What do you think about the quality and durability of this bike? I have 105 kg
Best regards
It really depends on your usage. Some parts need to be changed from time to time (bearings) but unless you smash it with big jumps and the likes. It's quite durable.
This place is amazing! Can you share where it is? I'm in the Netherlands and would love to ride my Surron there
Hey mate. Sure this is in France, next to Lyon. The village we usually start from is called Pollionnay.
Let me know if you come around. We can organise something or at least I'll give you some precise directions.
WOW, this video is pretty awesome. What display are you using for speed? Also, I have never done this kind of riding, you ever hit a tree before, that has gotta hurt LOL?
Thanks man!
Yeah we crashed multiple times. The secret is to be equipped with MX/Enduro protective gears. Then most crashes end up in a good laugh.
EBeast and Efox is like a BAC4000 Sur Ron but cheaper and it comes stock with a 72v 50ah lithium battery. Also from Mother China like the Sur Ron!
Care to share a link? Couldn't find these bikes online.
you need to upload more videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will try to work harder 😉 Thank you for watching man!
is the fork for 29 inch wheel? is this stock battery/motor?
How many kilometer range round trip are you getting with that controller/72v batt/15k tune? It appears to have ample power even for extreme climbing!
It will vary a lot based on battery, speed, elevation, rider's weight etc. On average, 30km of off-road is quite good.
Wow le kiff !
Je me chauffe sincèrement à en prendre une pour changer de l'enduro (niveau législation chez nous à l'île de la Réunion c'est compliqué...)
Quels seraient tes upgrades à faire en priorité ?
En roulage comme dans cette vidéo ça donne combien de temps de roulage environ avec une batterie ?
Avec une bonne batterie, tu arrives à 3/4h de roulage en enduro.
Concernant les upgrades, j'aurais tendance à dire partie cycle en premier : fourche, frein et ensuite puissance si besoin (en full origine avec une grosse couronne tu grimpes dejà partout, mais tu es limité en pointe).
@@MTO_Brothers merci pour tes réponses !
Bonne batterie comme tu dis c'est pas la batterie d'origine ?
Merci pour toutes tes vidéos, toujours un plaisir a regarder! (et merci pour les précisions en description aussi :) je me demandais juste encore une chose, c´est l´entretien après chaque sorti, si il y en beaucoup ou pas, le cout moyen tout ça tout ça, merci d´avance si tu prends le temps de me répondre!
ah oui et encore le cout de tous tes upgrades que tu a fais dessus t´ont revenu a combien ? genre suspension/bac 4000 ou 8000, frein et pneu ? (y a peut être moyen de faire une vidéo la dessus je sais pas mais perso je voudrais juste me faire une petite idée je demande pas un prix exact :p)
L'entretient c'est grosso modo comme un VTT: bien huiler, lavage si c'était boueux. Vérifier le serrage des vis qui peuvent bouger avec les vibrations.
Le prix peut varier assez fortement en fonction des bons plans que tu arrives à trouver. Pour une full prépa, en considérant que tu vas revendre certaines pièces d'origines, il faut compter dans les 10k€.
C'est bien de le faire petit à petit, comme ça à chaque upgrade, tu savoures la différence (et ça étale l'investissement…) 😃
@@MTO_Brothers merci! et ça te prends combien de temps en général l´entretien ? (non pas que je sois fainéant mais j´hésite encore beaucoup entre partir la dessus ou une moto tout simplement (Triumph c´est beau quand même :p) c´est clairement deux choix bien différents mais les deux me tente énormément, malheureusement, j´ai déjà pas les moyens pour l´un ou l´autre pour l´instant donc bon... x)
Après la sortie c'est nettoyage uniquement si c'était boueux... Sinon j'ai fait 1200 kms en forêt avec un modèle stock, j'ai fait l'entretien et RAS !!!! Je pensais remplacer la courroie primaire (j'en ai 5 d'avance) mais en fait c'était même pas nécessaire, il y avait encore largement de quoi faire !!! Quand je pars, et vu que je serai à 20/25kms de mon domicile, j'ai toujours une courroie (10 minutes à changer si tu retournes complètement le véhicule), une chaîne de secours (5 minutes à changer) et une bombe anti-crevaison au cas où... Reste que la batterie ou le moteur mais là j'ai pleine confiance et je ne m'attends pas à ce genre de panne ! 😋
@@yodi5257 yes super sympa de me répondre merci! :) j´attends tes vidéos qualitative a la riding buzut maintenant! ;)
Did you put a riser linkage to correct geometry? If so, did you put the 1.5” one?
No I didn't use a riser. The 18" wheel is slightly taller than the original 19" with the tyre, so given the fact that the 21" actually rises the bike by 1" only, you barely notice.
Theoretically, I'd be more planted going down while having a tendency to wheelie in the uphills.
Nice video!! I just want to recommend changing a couple settings on your GoPro though because the high speed image quality is not very good. Shoot me a message and I can help ya! Cheers mate!
Hey man! Not sure there is much to do as it was raining for a large part of the day, hence really low light conditions in the woods.
Still, I'm shooting you a DM on Facebook 😉
Two questions, how much $
and distance.
This thing has some massive power. It will be very interesting to know what is the electrical setup of the bike.
What do you mean exactly? It’s a 72V 15kW if that’s what you’re asking for 👌
@@MTO_Brothers Exactly! The stock motor is less then 15kw right and on 60volt? Did you put another motor or tuned the original through the higher voltage 72v and other ESC?
@@minalobudeshte It's the stock motor, but it can handle much more than its 5kW. Peak power up to 15kW isn't a problem as long as you keep the temps on check.
For that you change the controller for a programmable one and replace the stock battery by a more capable one (72V here but 60V can output high power too).
@@MTO_Brothers great 👍 thanks!
Salut, alors tout d'abord superbe vidéos!! machine de ouf, tu es d'où ? Si je peux te demander sans indiscrétion ton set up au total ta coûté combien ? Merci et bon ride
Salut ! Je suis de Lyon. L'ensemble a coûté dans les 10 000€. Il faut essayer de revendre les pièces que tu remplaces, ça adoucit un peu la note 😉
Hi. What is Cyprien front tire size in this video? 80/100?
I have 2 19” wheels and ride a tone of trails, kind of want to try out this 21/18 set up now, how does it effect your top speed?
Hey Alec!
It has absolutely no effect on the top speed as the 18" mounted with the tyre is of the same diameter than the 19" one.
You might want to mount a slightly bigger sprocket to increase the torque depending on your setup though. After that, sky's the limit!
Peux-tu me dire le model de tes roues et quel model de disque avant tu-as posé? Merci!! Ton setup est parfait belle machine!!
Merci ! Les roues sont des smpro et le modèle des pneus sont dans la description. Le disque est un Magura 223mm.
Joli vos rides ! ca file fort dans le sous bois ! Quels sont tes modeles de Jantes et pneus et sont il difficiles a adapter ? que pense tu de la Storm Bee ?
Ce sont des jantes SM Pro. Les pneus sont dans la description de la vidéo, c'est du standard pour les enduro :)
J'ai pas d'avis particulier sur la Storm. Je ne l'ai pas encore essayé, mais dans tous les cas, tu prends 60kg d'embonpoint comparé à la LB, donc peu importe les perfs, elle n'offrira pas la maniabilité ni le feeling que donne la Light.
@@MTO_Brothers Tu aurais un shop pour les jantes et pneu par hasard ,ta config a l'air top ! Oui la Storm plus pour du vrai Enduro avec clarges pistes ou sur terrain de Cross peut etre .
Wouahouuuuu vous envoyez gentiment les copains :)! Ça l’air bien sympa cette monté en gros pneu … quelle taille précisément svp ?21 devant et 18 derrière c est ça ?! Dommage que vous soyez loin je vous aurais bien suivi avec mon etrek 9kw :) pour comparer ! Qu effectivement ça passes partout !:)
Oui t'as tout compris 21/18, les modèles et tailles précis dont dans la description.
J'avais jamais vu le etrek. Ils la font encore chez EM?
T'es dans quel coin ?
@@MTO_Brothers salut , non le etrek n est plus commercialisé en 2021 , mais encore suivi chez EM (je les ai contacté pour avoir des infos ) , je suis dans le 13 et vous ?
L etrek est assez proche du storm bee de Surron , c est type enduro après j ai pas essayé encore le storm bée mais c est bcp plus type moto que le sur ron qui est plus entre le vélo / moto
De beaux franchissements ! Venant du trial (300 gasgas) Je kifferais rouler sans bruit/odeur et faire de la randonnée trialisante avec un surron. L'electric motion est top pour ça mais l'autonomie est ridicule. De plus une batterie supp coute 3k.......... chez surron tu peux avoir une batterie plus puissante que l'electric motion dans les 2k d'après ce que j'ai vu... Il est possible d'installer un embrayage électronique sur le surron ? Et niveau fiabilité, la surron supporte ce genre de traitement lol (trialisant/hard enduro) ?
L’avantage de la Surron c’est que presque tout est possible. Je pensais pas trop mal l’autonomie de la EM. Il faut vraiment que j’en teste une !
Pour l’embrayage oui c’est programmable sur certains contrôleurs mais l’intérêt est limite. La EM a un embrayage avec une vraie fleewheel donc tu peux faire prendre de la vitesse au moteur en débrayant et tout lâché d’un coup. La comme la transmission est directe au final ça revient un peu au même que de couper les gaz…
Avec un bon entretient c’est fiable. On maltraite les nôtres depuis 2 ans et RAS à ce jour :)
What size sprocket are you running with this setup? Are you still running 15kw?
Still on with 15kW. 52T sprocket, but it deserves more (58 might be a good start).
La configuration AV 21 et AR 18, c'est la monte de roue sur toutes les motos d'enduro... Cette monte permet large choix de pneu (dur, médium ou tendre), ainsi que la possibilité de mettre des mousses à la place des chambre à air.
Yes, c'est la config enduro. Gros choix de pneus enduro, alors qu'en 19, c'est plus restreints et presque que des pneus MX. En revanche, les mousses c'est trop lourd à mon gout.
Je suis enduriste et je serais bien tenté par une machine électrique. Les votres son upgradé, dans cette configuration quel est l’autonomie?
En tout cas c’est vraiment plaisant de vous, good job…
was waiting to see big foot
😃
I got into ebikes specifically for bigfoot research
So your running the nuc24 and 72v in this video? Would you do 16/19 or 18/21 as a first mod before a power upgrade ?
Without power upgrade, I'd go for a 21" and stay 19" on the rear if anything. The big rear tyre sucks power whereas the bigger front improves obstacles clearing which a negligible power impact.
@@MTO_Brothers I was leaning 18/22 to make the bike bigger. That said tires are more then double the price for 18/21 vs 16/19. I would eventually do power as well just making the bike bigger I feel is a first?
@@Just3adventures It really depends what you're looking for. To make the bike bigger for taller riders, 21" front is a must. 16 or 18 rear don't really rise it. They mainly add grip (and therefore swallow power) and offer more cushion on rocky terrains.
try a 18 inch wheel on the back. dunlop 752 tires on the back. metzler on the front 21 inch wheel
Would love to try one of those!
But is it really an enduro killer? Seems more like a really light and nimble trail bike?
It's above all the killer upgrade for doing enduro with the Surron. The realty is that a full size enduro bike and the Surron are completely different beasts. So different that they can't really compare directly and it's impossible to state that one is better than the other. One can be more adapted (or fun) for certain type of ridings though.
@@MTO_Brothers Personally, the main problem is that we can’t ride anything with an engine outside of the specific tracks here in Sweden (doesn’t matter if electric or gas). There’s a lot of public racing tracks but since they are the only place to ride they are really rutted, even my E-XC have a hard time coping. Would love to try a Surron on a trail similar to the one you’re riding.
@@enforcer-enduro Hey man, I feel your pain. The law sucks sometimes 😞
Isn't it possible to ride more freely in the country side where it's basically uninhabited?
@@MTO_Brothers Well, the risk to get caught is smaller, but I was actually chased by an police helicopter a couple of weeks ago for doing that.
@@enforcer-enduro no wayyyyy! Real gangster. It’s crazy how huge means are deployed for such a small thing whereas I’m pretty sure like in France, some real issues aren’t being enforced at all…
Does the bike have enough battery to last a complete long Enduro ride?
If so how much would you estimate you could cover for miles?
Depends on the mileage of your competition ride. I usually ride between 30 and 45kms, I also have a bigger battery that can last longer, it's a weight tradeoff also so I just use is when needed.
Fantástico!
One question, where i can buy this wheels?
Thankyou
Are you looking for a set of 21/18 or just a 21 front?
@@MTO_Brothers 21/18 set
Did your primary chain kit change the primary gear ratio?
Yesss. It's like having a 52T.
Merci pour cette vidéo. J'ai kiffé. Moi aussi je veux bien changer ma roue avant. Est ce que je peux mettre un kit de vélo 26'? Il est plus léger que la roue dee cross 21. Qu'est-ce que vous en pensez? Merci d'avance.
Hello! Techniquement parlant, ça marche. Maintenant personnellement je préfère un pneu de moto niveau feeling, mais je sais que certains pilotes utilisent ce montage avec la roue AV de VTT et en sont content.
Does the fork has enough clearance to use the full travel without hitting the tyre against the triple clamp?
Yes no issues. A mtb 27.5 wheel is actually taller than the 21 moto one
@@MTO_Brothers Nice! Thanks. I'm looking to get a Surron but I have to mod it a little to fit me with 1,96 meter of height. So I will put the 21inch wheel seet rise and shock linkage with an additional 3cm lift.
@@LB-hv3zl Yeah, you'll definitely feel better after you have risen it a bit!
How much psi or bar you riding in your bomber? Nice wheels!
Thanks man! I run the Bomber at 80PSI but I have a Pro Impact kit that allows for a smother curve.
@@MTO_Brothers crazy i run over 100PSi (7 Bar)
@@TimKrauseFilms Also depends on how many air tokens you have in it and your weight. I'm 55kg, so not that heavy.
Salut!
Ton pneu arrière c'est du 2.5?? Il paraît gros 🤔
Et a l'avant tu as du 90/100-21?
Saurais tu où je peux en acheter(le pneu ar)?
Non c'est une 3.5, je l'ai mis dans la description. Je l'avais acheté en ligne, mais je ne sais plus trop où…
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72v 36mah?
what is the version that you have? or configuration?
The battery is 72v 30Ah. Quite small.
Bonjour , possible de savoir ou trouver ce type de roue , les prix ? Merci
Jolies ces grosses roues. Ça doit apporter beaucoup de stabilité dans le rapide défoncé. Par contre la maniabilité dans les petits virages doit en pâtir ?
Les grosses roues réduisent forcément un peu la maniabilité (mais on reste quand même ultra maniable même en single). En revanche l'apport en stabilité, amortissement, grip en montée et franchissement est incroyable. Sur les terrains cassants tu as cette sensation de "flotter" comme sur une enduro thermique.
C'est un compromis, le mieux c'est d'avoir 2 sets à utiliser selon l'envie et le terrain !
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Sinon, du point de vue assurance ça coûte cher pour cette catégorie ? J'ai déjà eu un accident en enduro thermique et subit une demie douzaine de contrôles. Alors, je ne compte pas rouler sans.
@@claudemartin526 D'un point de vue assurance c'est un 50cc. Ça peut varier pas mal d'une compagnie à l'autre et en fonction de ta région, mais c'est ±15€/mois en moyenne.
How many kilometers does Siron travel when going up to these slopes when the battery is full of electricity?
You can do about 30-35km of off-road like that
@@MTO_Brothers طيب العاصفه والنحلة الفايقه كم كيلو يقطع من هذا القبيل ؟@MTO_Brothers Ok, the storm and the ultra bee, how many kilos does one cut like this?
Salut , peux tu parler d'autonomie stp.... Combien de temps tu peux rider avec cette merveille?
Ce jour là on a fait beaucoup de technique et on a roulé plus de 3h. En général c'est 2h de roulage en moyenne en batterie d'origine.
Just an Idea...why don't you guys do a Video on Technique to get up over that Rock near end of video with a Sur Ron :)
Very good idea mate! We've been asked to many times about technique tutorials so we're gonna give it a go 👍
how much hours of battery are you getting pushing the bike like that?
This time we rode more than 3 hours because our average speed with quite low, spending time doing rock challenges and stuff.
Usually it's more around 2 hours though.
What’s the exact suron and the exact setup? Can you attach below. I want one asap
All the details are in the description brother 🤟
il passaggio trialistico al minuto 6 non è per niente semplice: il legno ha una superficie quasi sempre liscia e viscida. buon passaggio!
What did you do build your wheels yourself ?
I haven't built them myself. But some have done so.
Hi there! I'm only 171 cm high, would the 21+18 combo be ok for me?
I'm 170cm, so if it's good for me, should ne good for you mate 😉
@@MTO_Brothers thanks bro, you're awesome💪
Do you have to remove the kickstand?
I don't think so. The rear is about the same height as the stock 19". But my kickstand was removed way before.