Advice to Young People as they face Annihilation | Roger Hallam | 2021
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- 00:00 Introduction
22:38 The Real World
51:21 The Liberal Left
1:06:12 The Radical Left
1:22:08 Action
1:40:29 Organisation
1:58:28 Wisdom and Balance
“In a very cynical way, it’s a triumph for science because at last we have stabilized something - namely the estimates for the carrying capacity of the planet, namely below one billion people” - Professor Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, New York Times, (March 2009).
This was predicted by Schellnhuber, one of Europe’s most eminent scientists, then director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, on the premise that if the build-up of greenhouse gases and its consequences were to push global temperatures 9°F higher than those of March 2009.
Current world population: 7.9 billion.
One of the main reasons why youth are so demoralised about their future is that older people lie to them, and young people know this. Older people lie to them about the climate crisis - that is it not as bad as it actually is - that 1.5°C is still attainable. Unless we come up with some miracle technology, it is not. Worse still, older people lie to them about what it takes to make real political change. Going on a march and standing outside schools doesn’t even reach the foothills of effectiveness. Only mass non-violent civil resistance (thousands of youth blocking ‘business as usual’ and getting arrested and going to prison) is in the ball park of creating the massive change that everyone knows is now necessary.
The following quote is the founding ethical basis of Extinction Rebellion and Burning Pink,
“To love truth for its own sake is the principal part of perfection in this world and the seed-plot of all other virtues” - John Locke
The basis of respect to another person is to be truthful with them, even when that truth feels unbearable. Roger Hallam shows this respect in this video. Young people face annihilation, which means the collapse of their societies into an endless hell of rape, slaughter and starvation, unless they enter into non-violent civil resistance against the carbon addicted political regimes which are taking them to their death. This is the way it is.
If this video has interested you, check out international youth organisation Last Generation. Last Generation calls for non-violent REVOLUTION.
“Our Generation is forced to do this - we have no choice. We have a duty thrust upon us when the government is guilty of treason. Our demand of Binding Citizen's assemblies is our path to life, democracy and justice for all."
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1. Tell The Truth
2. Act Now
3. Beyond Politics
The video is based upon a text Roger wrote when in prison a year ago - you can read the full text here: docs.google.com/document/d/1x...
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The heat dome in the US/Canada this summer really shows how late it is
Why? It isn't the first time there was a heat dome in the US and Canada. It happens from time to time, most notably in the 1930s. You might want to check your history before regurgitating climate change garbage.
This reply is a year and a half later…Yosemite National Park is on fire…no rain in months there…the thousand year old Sequoias are in danger😔
I'm radical and have been an activist for many years. I struggle at this point in my life - with a daughter and aging parents to care for and bills to pay - between the direct action that my morality demands of me and the risk of consequences that could impare my ability to fulfill the responsibilities that I have to others. It's something that I'm working through, maybe some of you can relate.
I was in a similar situation and I felt really stuck with the protests and actions calling me from afar. Then someone asked if I was on a bit of land, could I grow some food to feed people? And so that's what I'm focused on now, planting a food forest and weather-extreme-proofing the garden as much as possible. Young people in the fight are going to need energy and good nutrition to hold up. The kind of nutrition the fossil fools will never provide with their short-term fuckery of the land for processed-food profit and obesity generation. All that rant aside, a garden just helps and does so in a lot of ways. Best of luck to you R^4!
I think almost any adult can relate to some of what you said. It's profoundly vague and generic.
It’s ok- you get to decide when enough is enough. Least you tried. The next 20 year old who does though they can’t stop. Because it’s already to real. I’m glad I’m 50..
Erst kommt das Fressen, dann kommt die Moral. First things first...
@@T1tusCr0w They scared us with this in the late 80's, 2014 we would all be underwater. Al Gore was running around saying this rubbish.
With all due respect, the material part starts at 23:11. Sharing this protip for the next person
Wish I’d read this first 🤔
Don't worry about the 'pro tips'. If there are pro's watching extinction rebellion video's, it's strictly for the ego boost.
In other words our goose is cooked
Thanks
@@woodchipgardens9084 Are you on about the volcanic potential for abrupt global climate change (Krakatoa 536 year without a summer) or is this about volcanoes warming the planet - instead of CO2.
this is so painful to watch. i don't want this to be true. but i know i must step up to the plate. I love all of you
Yes step up to the plate. This is your fault and you need to take personal responsibility. Putting recyclable rubbish in the black bin is killing the planet. I hope you are proud of yourself. You have doomed us all.
@@robtall5537 Its not his fault at all. My advice to young people: Get rid of capitalism. Most all of humanities problems would go away in a heartbeat, if we didnt have capitalism giving all the power to these ass-sitter, power-hungry rich elite bastards. This isnt a issue of human nature at all; when looking at the Science, this is capitalist nature. They are addicted to power, and will stop at nothing until the demise of the entire planet. Money is their weapon, and capitalism is their perceived world, not ours.
Time for you to stfu and step up the plate fcs, because its capitalism that has doomed us all.
@@nevadataylor Get rid of Capitalism and replace it with what?
@@robtall5537 ~ I doubt anyone will respond.
Unless they support authoritarian rule.
@@nevadataylor What other option is there?
Thank you for doing this.
Thank you for your humility and your strength of calmly stating Truth...This is a true gift to anyone who can grasp ....thank you
This is a cult
@@sidsnot6952 So true. No morals, no integrity. Spreading trauma. Using & abusing our young people to become useful idiots in service to the billionairres
Thank you mate from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you Roger
thank you for traumatising young people with toxic lies Roger
@@deborahshort7596 He's just telling the truth.
@@barbarasmith6005 sorry you've fallen for the biggest fraud in living memory. I was temporarily pulled in a few years ago too, but I soon recognised the tell tale signs of group psychosis. If the climate alarmist narrative was standing in truth & confident in that, why are all the very many dissenting scientific voices censored?
@@barbarasmith6005 Or as the man himself puts it "tellin' da troof"
Thanks to you folks for offering another paradigm we were there in the late sixties but the message got lost in selfishness and Ego.
Selfishness is a virtue. What good for me is good for the human race.
@@kayakMike1000 no
@@kayakMike1000 Self awareness is a virtue. What's good for you may be catastrophic for others. We need to see past ourselves and understand our impact on others...
Hard to argue with the facts and this is the best single explanation of the situation I have seen. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He is a climate fascist that wants to make your lifestyle illegal.
@@kayakMike1000 really because my lifestyle is off grid solar powered growing my own food in my garden and canning it the same way my family has for over a century on this same small farm. It seems maybe you have my lifestyle confused with your own.
@@DanA-nl5uo you are not as disconnected as you think. For example, you could not have bought those solar panels or batteries without the rest of civilization. Your solar panels will probably work out ok for another 10 years or so, maybe longer if you're ok with reduced production. But, you're also online, so you're not completely off grid, you use goods and services that are available from western civilization. Its funny how you make yourself look like a liar.
@@DanA-nl5uo we also know you have a truck.
I pray we can make good miracles happen with God's help & as an older person I will NEVER STOP FIGHTING NOW until I die. I'm making this pledge now. LG
Many thanks Roger - one chime: You note that 'Radical left' is used in some different ways...so i think we have to then be wary of identifying it as unhelpful...we have to be wary in general of psychologically putting people into boxes. My experience is that there is enormous support - by which i also mean activity, in what can be called the radical left for capturing the state and organising in the ways that you suggest. All love.
Agreed. These fake ''leftists'' that are just liberals need to get away from our movement because they are ruining it. They want idpol, we want a dictatorship of the proletariat.
i wouldn't say any one has to 'get away' - i would say 'get with the programme'
Brilliant. Totally nailed so much of where we are standing right now.
This is. Cult
@@sidsnot6952 nah
@@Azamat421 Superb rebuttal there
Bless you and thank you Roger!
Thank you for being honest
Thank you, dear Roger. I am doing what I can but my largest hurdle seems to be the basic contentedness of many family and friends who have sufficient comfort and resources to think they can ride this out. The idea that there could be abrupt planetary disruption remains an alien thought. Every other day I post a scientific fact in an artistic frame to raise awareness and compassion.....but where it lands?
Roger, I live in Trump country in the Western US. We’ve been losing first our home insurance because of more frequent fires. The forests are still thick, though over three billion trees have died in Western North America over the last twenty years. Much of our forest has crossed a tipping point and what comes next will be different. Rain and snow patterns have changed dramatically. Loss of the boreal forest, permafrost and the AMOC, Greenland ice, and blue ocean summers in the Arctic will make most of North America south of Canada uninhabitable, probably in the next seventy years. Things are quickly getting interesting.
I find it hard to believe this channel only has 67k subs. I'm thinking it is subject to YT's "random" unsubscribing that many other channels and subscribers report.
Or maybe it's just a load of old bollocks..... Considered that possibility?
Im lost for words to share , ive always seen our future my nightmares as a teen shocked my grandmother , im 53 and grew up in the shadow of previous wars and nuclear weapons . I should burn the boat and become a permanent thorn in the side of our collective delusion , thanks mate from Australia
I'm 54. Just like you, I knew from a young age we were in trouble. That's why I never had kids. I think there were always voices in the background warning where the planet was headed. Just look at "Limits to Growth". That was 1972
@@SandraWade666 Me too..no kids because in part the 1969 oil spill in S. California and seeing Vietnam war on news as a child.
@@SandraWade666 wow sandra me too x
I think we will not change at all' humanity is too stupid, and maybe we don't deserve to survive' who cares, meeting a grisly end to our existence is the norm, always look on the bright side of life' because life's a piece of shit when you look at it!
It is but mainly because of humans and their shitty ass ways
You've left out the threat of complete nuclear annihilation before an extinction event reaches its logical conclusion.
If that bothers you, you better get under the kitchen table now and don't forget the paper bag.
As we are currently 100 seconds to midnight on the Doomsday clock, this reality becomes far more likely than not. However, I suspect that when a nuclear exchange happens, it will be between radicalized countries already at war either in the middle east or centralized Asia, and that the result will cause the rest of the world to pause and reflect on what we've done and what we do about it. Only then will enough of the world wake up with an epiphany-like mindset to set aside differences, gather together remaining resources, and implement and mobilize world changing action to get us on the right track. Only through extreme horror and loss has humanity moved itself to action... we've not gotten there yet, but a nuclear bomb exchange would do the trick.
10 minutes in and he mentions nuclear annihilation.
At this point, that would be the merciful option.
How many people in XR still believes that we humans can survive this climate crisis?
As far as I know, we've gone extinct by 2050 but likely earlier and nuclear annihilation might happen within this decade as things may already get really bad.
There simply won't be enough oxygen after planktons die nor enough soil and water to produce food. Our habitat is literally on fire and gone when runaway warming starts accelerating within a decade.
Excellent.
Thank you for saying what so many people don't even want to think about. And for presenting it in terms of action people can take.
Thank you. So much wisdom and sound advise here. Especially the bit about hope. And non-hierarchical structure. Listen on repeat.
"Listen on repeat"... appropriately cultish behaviour
I love you, Roger. Thank you for sharing your truth!
CUT THE “YOUR TRUTH” CRAP. THIS IS JUST LIKE THE SHIT-FOR-BRAINS “ALTERNATIVE FACTS.” WERE YOU BORN INHERENTLY STUPID OR DID YOU HAVE TO WORK AT IT? THERE IS ONLY THE TRUTH AND HE REFUSES TO ADMIT IT LET ALONE SPEAK IT.
Thank you Sir, from Brazil. We have to face Truth.
Im 68 not a prepper, disabled, live in hot az desert.
2 grand children. My heart hurts for the children, and the slaughter coming.😢😢😢
The first honest assessment I’ve seen so far.
The extinction rebellion was preceded about 30 years ago by The distinction propelling. People simply distinctioning themselves by getting themselves ready for what is surely going to be a rough time for those who chose extinction.
30:40 Weather blocking is happening right now 6/27/21. There is an Omega Block over the Pacific Northwest causing multiple days of extreme heat. The same blocked jetstream is causing flooding through the middle of the US.
That happens all the time, plus it's summertime, and there's lots of down-slope heating going on. Down under, it's winter, and there's record cold happening. It's all natural.
@@climatecraze 🤣🤣🤣 GTFOH
Nope.,. The fires in Siberia, here in Western North America, and Europe are not normal. Whole towns and forests are burning each summer. The region of California which supplies a quarter of America’s fruits and vegetables is rapidly running out of water.
🎩 s off to u Roger.. ❤️ out of all the truth tellers of our predicament ur about solutions 🙏
Paul Beckwith predicts the Blue Ocean Event much sooner as soon as 3yrs but I guess 3 to 10.
I am 60. I feel sorry for my grand kids. I noticed changes in my teens in the 80's. THAT is when people should have made changes. Not after the snowball is already rolling.
We live in Arizona, which I'm sure you know is drying up. In a 20+ year drought
We are thinking of moving to the East coast.. But that might not be a good idea either. Where is the best location to move?
Vermont, according to PBS Terra show.
Minnesota and Wisconsin
The text this video is based on, linked as a google doc, is giving me an Access Denied notice because it is not public. Could you change that? Would love it for reference and to locate your sources.
Advice to all people
Kevin Hester. Guy McPherson. Sam Carana.
I weep for my children.
All this shit goes away once we all collectively decide to end capitalism.
@@nevadataylor and replace it with what? communism? China a communist country is the world's biggest polluter.
@@robtall5537 China is Communist politically but Capitalist economically. I'm a capitalist at heart but without a doubt it's out of control & we need to be honest & find a better way. Collectively & globally. But I really can't see consensus coming anytime soon
@@garyk1334 If China wasn't partially capitalist it would be like North Korea, mass starvation with the population eating rats to survive. That is our future if we get rid of Capitalism.
@@robtall5537 Capitalism needs to be properly managed for the benefit of all not the few , it's out of control & it's killing the planet , where's the future in that ?
Look up what the prepper comunity is doing. The more resilient single people, families, towns etc. Are the less stressful such disruptions will be taken. So get ready, be active turn to life walk that leads to a self sustaining lifestyle away from the city. Build tribes, learn, increase your skills, be able to take care about everything if nobody will be able to come!
It will be hell of a ride, soo dont forget to enjoy it while it last!
12:00 min in. Cold hard truths about power and society. He has gone to jail and starved for his truth as he sees it from his personal experience and the history of individuals like Gandhi and Martin Luther king.
I'm like 33, so I might not be 'the young people'. Thank you for a summary of the situation tho. I'll try regardless.
Well done 😊
I am 30 and I refer myself as the young people. In 20 years we will be 50. Thats still young, that means we are going to face ourselves many of the huge consequences, and that means we won't be growing old with our grand children around eating during Sunday. We won''t be walking side by side with our lover in a park, we are going to be fighting and hoping noone of our circle gets killed or rape either by the fascist military force or by the natural disasters
Thank you for this video. Brilliant insights. Great advice for the horrific future we all face.
Don't worry -- John Kerry is on the job ... czcams.com/video/R9F8LSxR4Yo/video.html
Anarchism or Annihilation? Only joking-the choice has already been made.
The ruling class has made the 99% too preoccupied on trying to work hard enough at their job to try to be rich. Too late...
@@user-rb7ns9yj5y : Yup. The ruling class have been identified. According to Prof Peter Philips, they are the Global Capitalist Elite, made up of the CEO's and Directors of 100 Investment companies. They control the Wealth, politicians, military, police, private armies, msm, the lot. They could halt carbon emissions overnight, but they won't. They are obsessed with money, it's a machine that won't stop until the World is destroyed.
Yes, the choice has been made and it turns out to be both Anarchism AND annihilation. No government, only corporate chaos from unregulated capitalism.
@@ujean56 : Yup, the Capitalists will destroy us all in their greed for money.
@@ujean56 Probably best not to get your understanding of what anarchism is from the Daily Mail Book of Anarchism. TRY READING A REAL BOOK.
Courage, heart, brain...sounds of bits and pieces from the Wizard of Oz.
This fkt up system of capitalism is exactly like the Wizard of Oz ... however in our world there is more than 1 plutocrat hiding behind the curtain.
I’d love a transcript of the video so I can make my own video and reach more people but I think we’re screwed.
see the three little dots just above the subscribe button, click on that, open transcript.
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More people need to hear this.
Is there a way we can get this video with subtitles in English and other languages so that this can reach more of the world?
Also for the people that struggle to hear.
Hahaha can you imagine the panic?
@@aaronmann9442 panic will come anyway, better to be educated about it. Better to try and do something while we can
What? You mean so you can frighten all of the children all over the world? What a wonderful idea, they will love you.
It depends with the budget of the content creators at Extinction Rebellion UK. Hiring people proficient in different languages to create subtitles costs money.
Hey! Got a question, Mr. Hallam said the total greenhouse gasses It’s around 500ppm, but 450ppm might be a tipping point? Trying to understand the difference between the two. Am very new to this. Can someone help with an answer please?
Total greenhouse gases (GHGs) is primarily carbon (~420ppm now) and also includes methane, nitric oxides, water vapor, F-gases, ground-level ozone, and other gases. This makes it higher, around 500ppm. We also call this CO2e (equivalent. For example, methane causes 7-80x more warming than carbon does, but it only lasts around 12 years, 100 at most. Carbon lasts thousands).
CO2 is the primarily driver so the tipping point he referred to is for carbon only.
The 560ppm CO2e he mentioned seems to be where we’ll see 1.5-4.5°C of warming (I’d guess +3) according to NOAA. Roger said we’d “lock in” 5°C of warming with that. Keep in mind the time scale matters: 10 vs 30 vs 100 years. Even with no new GHGs released, temps would continue to rise (for at least 40 years. The climate system “lags” behind).
I’m late but I hope that helps.
Look at Sam Carana for accurate info on the state of the arctic sea ice and the dire state of the temperature there....especially the exponentially increasing emission of methane
listening from British Columbia-vancouver island
More recent studies have lowered the wet bulb temperature to 31 degrees C.
Hello Roger. You need to do some pushups. We need you in shape so you stay in the fight for many years. You would despise it for 3 weeks....but no problemo after that.
like the video so the algorithm picks it up and it goes viral! comment etc
Roger- it seems to me- is a re- incarnated druid …
Since studying this subject at OU ('The man made world') back in the 1970's when the two degree irreversable limit warning was first agreed by the club of Rome. The statistical, exponential, increase in everything forecast screamed the need for an emergency response, which never happened. I'd say to my young wife, look at these graphs that all go vertical when we have grandchildren and unfortunately in this case, the statistics have been proven accurate.
Really gripping after he says I'm going to jump right into it 1/10 of the way in
im taking a few days to lsten to this. Too much for one day to digest
I’m just waiting for this guy to become Jim Jones 2.0.
Great lecture. But I am afraid attempt at civil disobedience is futile. Why? Because vast majority of people are blissfully unaware of oncoming catastrophe and don't care to learn about it either. All they can see is what's right in front of them, blissful comfort in mass consumerism and any radical changes will bring about inconveniences and deprivation which they don't want. There is no significant population invested in radically transforming the system, and therefore any attempt at radical transformation of society cannot succeed.
It's a sad fact. Especially with today's materialism. 9 out of 10 would never have the patience to sit down and listen to the facts because of Instagram or Facebook or any other distractions.
The reason we won't follow you is because youve not convinced us with your arguments and most of us think you're all just very, very silly!
It's more than a temperature rise. Artic melting equals ocean rising. Climate controlled greenhouses will be needed. Avoiding prolonged exposure of rain, sun.
Reminds of Victor Frankyl's Man's Search For Meaning towards the end. Thank you Roger.
A brilliant reflection leading us to our own mirrors in a house burning down. Thank you for helping me remember to stay grounded and do what I can. You are a wonderful Person 🦋
Sorry for the multiple posts, but I wonder if it’s better to live in a semi arid higher elevation or a lower elevation cooler rainforest. I have the opportunity to either move to Washington state or Colorado. I’m having difficulty deciding where I want to spend my dying days.
Stay put, mate. Look at the data. Don't listen to clowns.
I hope I can give my own experiences with climate grief and how I have come to find some peace in the midst of calamity.
Wrestling with the reality of our ecological crises is crushingly horrible. You are sad because the future seems lost; you are frightened because the future seems so full of death, devastation and destruction; you are angry because it seems so unnecessary. Moreover, you feel you *should* be sad, you *should* be frightened, and you *should* be angry, because anything less would be somehow inappropriate, would somehow fail to do justice to the gravity of our predicament. You easily begin, then, to ruminate endlessly. It becomes hard to care about anything else - what do all of the other beautiful and meaningful things in life matter when the world is on fire and civilisation might be on the verge of collapse? What is truly unbearable is how this anguish and distress metastasises. You begin to feel more alienated and estranged from the world around you than you ever imagined it was possible to feel. Other people become a source of immense disappointment, and even rage. "Why are they not seeing this too?? Don't they care?!" It is a huge struggle not to become a complete misanthrope. When you spend all of your time ruminating on the dangers facing us you start to become full not only of bitterness, resentment and hatred, but full of despair and guilt. The problems seem insoluble.
So what if we're in pain? Well, firstly, it is simply unnecessary. If you want to cling to your sadness, fear, anger, resentment, hatred, rage, guilt, frustration, despair, you are welcome to - but it is possible to let go of some of our distress if we want to. Seccondly, our anguish is of absolutely no use whatsoever in and of itself. Anger or fear might motivate us to act. But, I know from personal experience, extreme emotional anguish about our ecological problems can be overhwleming and crushing. Despair, hopelessness, misanthropy, guilt, dejection, terror - these can each be paralysing forces that prevent us from taking action.
Wisdom, as always, begins by recognising what is beyond our control. It is perhaps a horrifying thought, but it is the truth: there is absolutely nothing you or I could do as individuals that will avert climate breakdown. It *is* a very important truth that *collectively* we have considerable power. But you and I are not collectives. We may be able to exert some influence over others, thereby playing our small role in bringing about the collective power that could have some significant influence over events. We also may not; what other people do - whether they act or not, whether they realise the urgency of the climate urgency - is also substantially beyond our control, in simple point of fact.
It seems strange that overcoming despair can begin by recognising the depth of your powerlessness. You are then forced to examine your feelings about the worst case scenarios. To philosophise is to learn how to die. When I think of the sun eventually exploding and destroying the solar system, or the inevitable heat-death of the universe in accordance with the second law of thermodynamics, I do not despair. I suppose I think it is sad that all things must inevitably come to an end, but I have accepted it as a fact beyond my control. And, if I happened to be one of the last surviving humans before the sun in its death throes was going to make the earth uninhabitable, I honestly don't think the wise and dignified way to bow out of existence would be suffering from my refusal to accept reality, raging against it, shaking my fist at the laws of physics. What good would that do? I would hope that I would, in that scenario, witness the end times much as I hope to die - in good spirits and grateful for the gift of life. I am not saying that we should 'go gently into that good night', that we should neglect to take the precautions that will prolong our individual, collective or planetary health; I am saying that there is no use in 'raging against the dying of the light' when it is no longer within our control.
The fact that civilisation - at least, as we know it - may collapse within my lifetime, that I may witness vast famines, scarcity of basic resources, devastating climactic events, etc. is all, of course, quite horrifying - more emotionally horrifying to me, even, than the heat-death of the universe. Partly this is because events like the heat-death of the universe seem so far off in the distance that it is easy to forget the enormous destruction they entail. But partly what makes it so horrifying is, as I mentioned, to think that this is all human caused and avoidable. It is the sense that these scenarios are avoidable which gives me a feeling of responsibility and control, and it is the feeling that I have some control over events which makes me resist them so strongly, and causes me such mental suffering. It is worth noting that "human caused" does not strictly entail "avoidable", as we too readily tend to assume. Human beings are manifestations of physical laws as much as anything else in the universe; it may be that we are just not such a species as can avoid bringing about immense destruction and its own demise.
My point here, I want to emphasise, is not to promote indifference and apathy, hopelessness and passivity, or even to claim that the worst-case scenarios are in fact inevitable. I just want to say that I have found it useful to calmly consider the most extreme worst-case scenarios and to investigate my feelings about them when I realise that I am, alone, powerless to stop them. When I do, I find that even human extinction, or - less catastrophically - the collapse of civilisation, is bearable. These things may be horrible, and indeed they are. But, if they are realities, they are realities it is possible to accept, just as it is possible to learn to accept the reality of death. And, whilst I can see little to redeem the prospect of our extinction (unlike some misanthropes), there are many respects in which I think civilisation is overrated, so that even that scenario is not quite as horrifying as it seems, except for the deadliness of the transition.
Once you have stared the very worst-case scenarios in the face, it becomes possible to be a little more objective-minded. When you are constantly ruminating over negative thoughts, you easily become addicted to your own despair and preoccupied with only the worst-case scenarios. Optimism and hope begin to appear like inexcusable complacency and self-deception; this creates a vicious cycle in which you can only entertain the most pessimistic thoughts. But there is much that we simply don't know. None of us has a crystal ball. We don't know quite how bad the realistic worst-case scenarios are. We also don't know how much can be salvaged, or how much danger averted. Being realistic about our situation doesn't only mean being aware of the possible worst-case scenarios, but being aware of the possible best-case scenarios.
Realising how much is beyond our control and how much is unknown, all we have left under our control is our own little actions and choices. We can choose either to be paralysed in misery, or to make our best efforts for what they're worth, knowing they may come to nothing but that also we do not know what good they might do.
I can imagine how I would have reacted not so long ago if I heard someone saying the sorts of things I am now saying. How can the prospect of mass death be born with equanimity and tranquility? Isn't that simply inhuman and irresponsible? But there are additional reasons why we need a movement which has a certain peace of mind other than that it is an analgesic for the painfulness of the truth. There are moral reasons. Bitter, rageful, guilty, frightened people do not think clearly; they become twisted and misanthropic; their compassion becomes eclipsed. The task of the environmentalist movement is titanic. We must aim for no less than to rebuild the world anew. This we cannot hope to do unless, first of all, our movement is clear-headed, sober, and resilient. But we cannot hope to bring about a sustainable world without simultaneously effecting a moral transformations in the values and attitudes that have given rise to our crises in the first place. Our bitterness, fear, and hatred are simply not very constructive. Our task is daunting in magnitude, but it is also a tremendous opportunity.
There is much to be cheerful about, even as the prospect of annihilation haunts us. There is the exhilirating chance to rebuild new and beautiful things. And, if all else fails, we can find a certain measure of contentment and meaning in our own efforts and struggles. The past few years the saying "may you live in interesting times" has often come to mind. To wish that someone should live in "interesting times" always seemed like a curse to me, and there is a very real sense in which it is. I feel, however, that I am beginning to understand the meaning of this saying: adversity also forces us to develop wisdom, strength and courage we would never otherwise have developed or thought possible.
Love this! Really encapsulated a lot of my personal experience with all of this stuff. Thanks for taking the time to write this because it helped me.
@@estevanmunoz5058 Thank you. I'm really glad you found it helpful.
Bravo! I hope this continues to be helpful to those who find it.
Yes, well thought out, and if understood hopefully in the depth that you have presented it here…indeed, very helpful.
When I was in year six, started a mini rebellion in my school against my deputy head who I felt was unfair to my class, I wont go into details but in a blink of an eye I was both expelled and removed from the borough where I lived with my sister back to the village where my parents were. I didn’t mind because I did not understand what had gone wrong. I only understood something was off due to the abrupt actions. None of the grown ups in my life at the time explained anything so I was surprised when years later he my own father in his old age was talking to me about the matter and then I realised they all new what I had done. My father said to me that he had to lie to my new village school to get a place because they had asked the required a transfer report which due to the speed of the action left me without one. Apparently he said i was reacting to the environment due to the altitude. Genius for one never seen the inside of a classroom. For me I did not care so much because I did not understand the magnitude of the problem. Now I do and I know not to be the one leading others to change. One may try but the speed at which we all reach our own truths affects the way we respond to anything and especially the way we understand the world and how we are connected . I agree with you that the challenge of change in anything cannot and will not involve human arrangements as experience tells us he causes more conflicts in the attempt to do so. I have learnt a lot from Jiddu Krishnamurti of what humans can do to themselves or one another when they use their thoughts to create an environment to bring about change. He suggest like you that we understand who we are first and not be quick try to change it because we don’t even know what we are changing to and the length of sustaining the change. I have kids and one teenager is like “Action now!” and I 🤔, even if one was to act global warming is not to many in the highest part in the list of priorities, another said here, people are not even living life to think about the future. The future is known to no man they say and all their energy is about here and now and that too with the utility bills heading upwards and the general cost of living not having trouble catching up is just a big ask and where is the guarantee that anything wi work when we have even worked on how to control the locusts or the cockroaches that also do much harm. Just thinking aloud!
What happens to the north when the cooling starts to fail, where can i learn more about that?
The End of Ice by Dahr Jamail is a good start. These climate maps are conservative. They don't take exponential change into consideration climate.nasa.gov/interactives/climate-time-machine. Also, guymcpherson.com/ Nature Bats Last
@@sheilagarrick82 Thank you very much for this help.
Share this with everyone! Roger has been committed and active for decades. We all need to listen up now. Thank you Roger & XR! 👊🏼❤️🩹
Yes, this guy is very discrete in suggesting the need of a revolution of some kind to put things in order. I wish he was more specific.
The people need to come together and create their own currency, then go about their lives ignoring the government.
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david pretiz : I think Roger would have to be very careful in what he says. The people who he says are purposely causing the catastrophe are the Global Capitalist Elite, a superclass who run the West. Prof Peter Philips' book, 'Giants' lays it out. This elite control the Wealth, the politicians, military, police, private armies, msm, the lot. This is who the climate activists will have to confront with non-violence.
@@MygirlsGJPB Extinction Rebellion crypto coin make it happen!
Humility and honesty. Thank you Roger for leading us forward🙏
I'm up to 45 mins on video. It's a horrendously bleak message from Roger. I'm an old guy now, but watching this, i feel anguish over the plight of the young who will have to face this.
@Di42 : Extinction Rebellion is probably number 1 on this Govt's terrorist list. Good luck to all who take action.
Honesty? These people are reading from the behavioural psychology pamphlet in how to put the fear of God in children with stupid buzz words like "annihilation".
And you retards lap it all up.
The elites WANT this shit. And you lot think you're on some sort of crusade.
I am stocking up on nuts. So far I have almost 200kg of nuts stored. So no problem I should be ok
I obsessively read into these reports and watch all sorts of media revolving around these hard truths. But this really fucked me up. I don’t really know what to say. I hope he’s wrong. But I know he’s not
Wow....what a powerful talk and sharing of thoughts. I agree with Roger....miracles do happen when we work together and make a change. God Bless!
Will XR Comms please help Roger to edit his very important work. I can't Wade through 130 mins. What a shame, he even admits 'i ramble on'. Will noone have the courage to take him in hand?
My CZcams has a speed button - you can listen at 1.75 x normal speed.
I just love this guy! Bright, funny and profound.
I like what we see, especially now you've changed the shirt style...
Cheeky!
We NEED solutions.
Veganism is one of the neccesary solutions. There's a list of more suggestions at the bottom of this post:
www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/d79usz/climate_change_and_veganism/
I have seen many intelligent people in my country having no opportunities to improve the world. We as humans are very narcissist
Everything comes to an end eventually...even us
No. Listen to Charlie Manson here and you will receive the gift of immortality.
Some smart guy will figger it out.
Tell them about the aerosol masking effect
"Power comes from the will of every living creature in the universe." - Green Lantern Tomar-Re
"I don't need to tell you your duty. I don't need to tell you who we are." - Green Lantern Sinestro
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Would be great if someone could add to the comments a summary of Rogers predictions of all the little +0.3°C here & there & their causes so we can add them up. Couldn’t quite follow & there seems to be a big jump. Wolf do it myself but haven’t the time unfortunately. 🙏🌍🌱
"All media exist to invest our lives with artificial perceptions and arbitrary values." - Marshall McLuhan
Roger Hallam is speaking of tomorrow's geo-environment/political/economic map.
"Are you carrying the fire?" - A little boy
The Road - Ending Scene 2009 - based on the book by Cormac McCarthy
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"Time, bound by circumstances and resources...is fleeting." - Grandpa
Chemistry - RUSH
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"It is not necessary to conceal anything from a public insensible to contradiction and narcotized by technological diversions." - Neil Postman
New World Man - RUSH
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"Life is too short to not be cool." - Grandpa
"Life is too long if too hot." - Grandson
"Careful as we will, careful as we go." - Grandpa
Natural Science - RUSH
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"The map is not the territory." - Alfred Korzybski
"The medium is the message." - Marshall McLuhan
"This shit's got to go." - Jacque Fresco
Roll The Bones - RUSH
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Since Timore
If you want young people to watch this, you need to get to the point!
ART, indeed you are right for so many people who are handicapped with culturally induced attention deficit. Not just young people. Roger could have done better but he did it, that's more than I can say for myself. Wish he had an editor who could have crafted his 2hr summation of all points salient, even a few sentences outlining the roadmap said at the very beginning. Or a timeline in the podcast notes. I for one recognize the wisdom gems in his talk, his walking the talk, learning from the XR experience without recrimination or blame. I was part of starting XR Hamilton ON CAnada,, and we experienced what he describes as dogmatic horizontalism, avoiding harm, blocking effective action.
Yes he spends too much time at start saying we don't have to watch it.
Thank you for this bit of your life story, Roger. In the 1970's I was the kid who would ride my bike to school wearing a gas mask. This was as much a necessity in air-polluted smoggy Southern California as it was a protest. I became an ecology nerd soon after the iconic pictures of our home from the moon, (the 'Earthrise' pic esp), were publicized and turned into flags and posters. Those were the good old days when we were neither. Let me express my deepest gratitude to all of the Extinction Rebellion. Keep making good trouble and have serious fun at it while you can my friends!
"Protest that endures, I think, is moved by a hope far more modest than that of public success, namely, the hope of preserving qualities in one's own heart and spirit that would be destroyed by acquiescence."
Wendell Berry
In the 70s they also called "climate change" "global warming". Now, they have a term that can be used for any and all weather events.
Dumbasses
So we're all going to die, perhaps except the superclass with enough money to afford a one-way ticket to Mars on one of the Starships Spacex is building to get the hell out of here.
I have only watched the first 4 min and I am already crying. Wow. Thank you
It's a cult
@@sidsnot6952 The radicalisation is crazy
Just wait till you get the gang rape and blinding part... 🙄
Wisdom says it is not "either or" , it's "both-and". Eg. Its not either engaging with the structures of the establishment, or creating alternative, human-scale institutions - especially if encouraging groupthink tribalism with the symbols of anarchy and unnessesarily "scaring the horses". Somehow we we need assemblies with enough formal stuctures to interact skillfully with city hall to create some concessions, for example sustainable shelters and tenancies, which do ease the precariat predicament and creates *political space* for concerted organising. A dance between strategic, proactive campaigns, such as social housing and caring for food/watersheds. And relatively spontaneous reactive acts of NVDA to DElegitimise damaging BAU (business-as-usual).
The *maintenance* of group wellbeing and functioning is as important as what campaigns *do*. This can only be achieved with a degree of traditional democratic *stucture*, along with all the connective tissue of a culture of kindness and respect. These democratic structures can still be messy in liberal practice. They contrast with personality cults favouring a privileged few, or even a privileged majority!
Such is life among us humans. The only issue for anarchistic groups is whether these informal structures are formalised enought to assure a decent degree of transparency and accountability. In other words, anarchists and conservatives are stronger in mutually respectful relationship, listening to and learning from ome another. It's a dance between heart and head, each with its risk of going astray or conceit. Wisdom is both, resilient enough to keep returning to balance.
C'est la vie/that's
life. That's wisdom.
Homework for Anarchy 101: read "The Tyranny of Structurelessness" the short essay by Jo Freeman, 1970. Thinking rebels should be acquainted with this debate. Useful too, in the tribalising and confirmation-bias engines of the internet, are a good number of recent books, publications and podcasts exploring the dynamics of cults and "undue influence". The welding of power is a central concern of any critical wisdom practitioner in the public sphere, and arguably in the personal sphere as well. Influence and power and trust are all ok when they are ok, otherwise not! When they are not it leads off into a confidence trick, scam or high-demand cultish bubble.
Trust is part of courage, faith part of patience. Without trust..paranoia and conspiricism can arise and possess many in lonely screens or groupthink pseudo-communities.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness
To conclude this message from an ancient New Zealander, congratulations to the wise gatherers (rangatira in Māori), the leadership of XR. You are calling out in the gathering storm to passengers and crew of the Ship of Fools.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_fools
...not to be confused with the idealist Ship of State (Plato) or Leviathon (Hobbes)
I see XR as the prefigurememt of the New United Nations Organisation under the Earth Charter en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Charter which almost by definition will be a bottom-up reform of localised regenerative communities ruled from Earth Jurisprudence
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_jurisprudence
Hahahhaha, spoken like a rat clinging to shipwreck debris. I've been sitting right where you are and I understand the defense mechanism at play here. If we do not make change now there will be no one left to revel in these narcissistic ramblings of yours (I too am guilty of the same shit, no shade here). The truth is that every avenue has its flaws, but radical change is necessary if there is to be any sort of civilization left to debate about it.
Im a bit concerned about the human ecology of Covid-19 being favourable to opportunistic cult-like, eco-fascist, ethno-nationalist forces competing with (via fake XR posts) or hijacking XR to nudge cyber-warriors towards the mentality of ethno-nationalist eco-fascism (lets abbreviate it to "ENEF"). ENEF is a current NAZI-like online movement, a sign of the times. It is not an organisation or organised conspiracy. Its hard to nail down internet movements. Think trumpism and QAnon, christo-fascism and the CPC (in China) 5-year plan hijacking the term "ecological civilisation".
I'm not a political anthropologist but ENEF seems to display hatred and sectarianism over kindness and solidarity. It seems fascinated by death more than life, ego identity over human flourishing through the challenge of the Anthropocene.
In short, ENEF is a worry, and there are flaky vulnerabilities in this world to it. We need to have some critical inquiry into the vulnerability to ENEF of new age spiritual atavism, neoliberal globalism, identity politics and yes, even manifesto anarchism.
In the 21st Century we are riding on the back of a tiger, victims of our own success. If ENEF gets a dominant footing in the World, as it has in a number of autocratic eco-fascist nationalist regimes today, then the political space to organise the necessary , urgent and radical decarbonisation necessary to head off the worst case global heating scenarios will be at great risk. I might be wrong, but I think it is too early and self-defeating to throw out the baby of liberal democracy with the bathwater of corporate plutocracy.
As Greta says, follow the science. We know what we have to achieve by when in terms of atmospheric physics. Within the XR there must be room for deliberation on the "how" of what must be done. Time is of the essence but we must not panic.Historical experience shows that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". Which is not to say we shouldn't include the reactive political theatre of "rebellion" with full-spectrum proactive political organising for a world in which climate justice is radically more than a slogan. It
is already replacing neoliberal ideology and institutions, just as raging millenials are replacing us complacent, complicit, ecocidal and largely silent boomer bystanders.
I struggled with the first 15 minutes, tbh. That’s too long for introductory remarks! But I did watch the rest and I agree with all of it. I think you gloss over a few things or don’t address them at all: a) the international dimension, the USA puts more carbon into the atmosphere than any nation and their culture will not permit change outside the strict limits that the 1% allows; b) direct action might be disruptive but the state fights back, recall the PIRA hunger strikes and the Greenham Common women, there must be popular support or you will get nowhere. I suspect (with no real scientific basis) that we are fried - or our children are - and that there is nothing we can do about it.
Not true. U.S.A.Does not put more carbon in the atmosphere than any other nation. U.S.A. has decreased carbon output in the last 20 years whereas Chinas carbon output is growing.
@@rickyccayenne4790 just stop
Fantastic talk, you speak very well and very concisely. Refreshing to have things put straight instead of pansying about the subject. Thank you, I only wish that I was your target audience but I do know a lot of people engaging in civil disobedience here in NZ and this brings me hope for change.
The claim for a greenhouse effect in any planetary atmosphere fails to take into account the surface pressure due to the weight of the atmosphere, as measured by Evangelista Torricelli.
A barometer measures the force due to the weight of the atmosphere.
A similar device, the altimeter, used in every aircraft, also measures atmospheric pressure but at the height of the aircraft, enabling aircraft to fly safely by keeping to different altitudes.
Something else, climb a mountain, the air temperature drops the higher you get.
Measurement show the fall in temperature is exactly in agreement with the pressure change, day or night makes almost no difference - so temperature change has (almost) nothing to do with 'radiation from the Sun' or the amount of carbon dioxide - which is tiny!
I would appreciate very much Roger Hallam explaining why he claims carbon dioxide in the atmosphere changes its temperature. This is an important matter - the effect of air pressure must not be ignored.
it would have been useful if he used charts and graphs.
Feeling some rising panic.
it's called climate anxiety. It is an irrational fear of climate catastrophe. It is a mental disorder and you can get professional help for it.
@@robtall5537 I'm not impressed by that comment. Sounds a bit immature, to be fair.
@@s.r.howell1297 sometimes its hard to admit you need help. I understand.
@@robtall5537 Not at all, you just sound a bit silly. Denialism is also a product of anxiety, for instance, such as when someone feels the need to view a climate emergency video just to troll.
@@robtall5537 the only thing that's irrational here is the fanciful notion that 90% of climate science is wrong, that you can burn billions of gallons of toxic-producing fuel with no repercussions at all, that you can produce billions of pounds of single use plastic and dump it in our oceans and expect nothing will happen. Sounds really "rational"!
also henry David Thoreau and Benjamin Franklin
What money do you live on?
Thank you Roger. That was a brave piece of work.
The world will recover and be better off without humans. In the end, we destroyed ourselves and eachother. Let's at least give the world a chance without us. (We've done enough damage).
Civil disobedience is hard to do when you end up homeless and hungry. You could try fentanyl, if you want to do some civil disobedience.
Read the book Conversations With God book 4 Awaken The Species .
In this book there are 16 differences between Highly Evolved Beings Heb's and Humans.
Consider the source.
Hmmm...
How about Fukushima?
Just went through the heat dome In b.c Canada.....700+ coroner report died from it.....let me tell you all its going to happen faster than you say......it's real and the arctic has maybe 3-5 years then earth becomes hell for everyone! screw the 2 degrees b.s. were going well beyond that soon but we won't be here to yak yak and more yak about it. Live every day like its your last.
I admire Extinction Rebellion's aim, but I think the only rational course is to begin preparing some sort of habitat in which a large group of people can survive an Earth that has become chronically inhospitable. Civil disobedience is laudable, and a moral stand, but time has run out to stop irreversible climate breakdown. What we need is a non-profit foundation that gathers a large amount of funds, then builds a large, domed farm habitat, containing an integrated vegetarian, hydroponic farming system. This domed farm ideally will also contain a well and a resilient renewable energy supply. Over time, it will be extended to enable more people to live in it permanently. It sounds very dystopian sci-fi but after a lot of thought, I think it's the only rational thing to aim at. Civil disobedience won't help us. The tipping points have been passed. The die is cast. We have to find a way for some of us to survive. As far as I know, Roger is an organic farmer. Could he investigate such a project?
@@ph1748 Yes, I think the ultra-rich are probably doing that. They might be ruthless and self-serving but they're not stupid. For more on that idea, I recommend the program 'Alternative Three' and Jim Keith's book on that same subject.