How to Stop the Climate Crisis in Six months | 4 September 2021 | Roger Hallam
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- 00:00 Introduction
5:40 The Climate Crisis
20:45 The Theory
55:45 The Practice
1:45:40 Conclusion
"We have to move quickly. What we do, I believe, in the next three to four years will determine the future of humanity". Sir David King. Former Chief Scientific Advisor to the UK Government.
Given there is a real world out there and we have 3-4 years to stop it being destroyed, we have to engage in nonviolent direct action to stop governments imposing upon us the greatest act of criminality in the history of humanity: namely destroying the livelihoods and lives of the next thousand generations. This video gives you the key elements of success which people are adapting as they step into their responsibilities to force political change. Nothing is more important. We can not longer afford to lose.
"We struggle to name any climate scientist who at that time thought the Paris Agreement was feasible. We have since been told by some scientists that the Paris Agreement was “of course important for climate justice but unworkable” and “a complete shock, no one thought limiting to 1.5°C was possible”. Rather than being able to limit warming to 1.5°C, a senior academic involved in the IPCC concluded we were heading beyond 3°C by the end of this century."
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The problem is, when I tell people how serious the situation is they think I'm crazy. Nobody believes we're this close to the point of no return.
I feel like those people on the street telling everyone about the bible and how we're all going to hell...
Thats how alot of revolutionary acrtions are treated, but don't worry keep going!
No...mankind has forgotten the Creator...GOD.!
Think about,...there is the Bible...his commentments...to follow is
easy...!!!
Think about...soon.
G O D means G O O D...guys.
Well, Mulan, if YOU actually read the IPCC reports for YOURSELF, you will realise the situation is nowhere near as bad as this guy makes out!
Try to think for yourself!
@@uterauch3433 Oh PLEASE! You crazy God-botherers have absolutely ZERO idea about anything.
Go back to worshipping trees, or rocks, or slime or whatever crap you believe in. Leave scientific matters to people who understand them!
@@robjohnston1433 It's pretty bad Rob
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."
~ Buckminster Fuller
And what exactly did he change? We all know what needs to be done but no one wants to actually do it because we are all comfortable. When people realize what’s coming they will be in it and uncomfortable and even then most will still deny it instead of doing something. That’s how humans act just like animals. We aren’t as evolved as we believe we are.
@@remicaron3191 I'm not comfortable
@@remicaron3191 it is already there and that is not comfortable to anyone with brains
That's what Elon did.
@@stebarg Elon is not talking a lot about the government R@D funds enabling him. We need more Mission Economy fast like Mazzucato argues.
Rather than looking to technology to extend the life of modern industrial civilization we ought to be looking at its ability to buy time and to slow us down in the transition. We need to look towards our feet. Literally look down at the land under our feet. It is our life’s blood. We need to build resiliency in our homes and community. We should be thinking about adaptation, conservation, land stewardship, and feeding ourselves. We need to decouple our survival from global supply chains wherever and whenever possible.
@Pieter Jan Zijlstra yes!
the time where "slowing down the transition" was an option is just gone. We did that far too long
@@megaphonistanofficial1773 The transition is coming whether we like it or not. Just because the situation continues to get worse doesn’t mean we should give up or stop trying to slow the pace. Mitigation and adaptation are the only means of survival for the human race. I’m not so interested in preserving what we typically think of as civilization. We existed on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years without it. I’m more interested in making the transition or collapse as humane as possible. The slower the better. Unless you are in the Derrick Jensen camp of just tearing it all down ASAP. He may be right that it would be better for the planet but it would be hell on earth for the almost 8 billion humans if that happens.
There’s a mental trick a person plays inwardly when s/he invokes the imperial “we” - a coarse version of which is, “Teamwork is a bunch of people doing what I say.”
@@mikemccarthy1638 You got me! I should say that that’s what I’m trying to do. I can’t control anybody else. Just my thoughts.
THANK YOU for your continued courage to speak truth in the face of denial, delusion, corruption, confusion, and interests that actually want the end to come. In a world where the mind is usually trained to be obedient to abuse of power, you continue to bring hope and solutions forward.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can XR ask Roger to do 5 min vids, or even 10 or 30 mins. I feel certain you'd have more impact. Best wishes,
cut the middleman
mail him yourself
He needs a team to dissect and frame key points from these videos. Maybe something like the after skool videos
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I disagree, that's simply untrue. If you can't handle the truth a smaller portion won't help. If you can't focus or don't care much maybe it might in that case maybe guy McPherson videos are better for them
Also, Mr. Roger Hallam encourages you to take his videos and make your own.
So if you feel they are not succinct enough, try and compress the message yourself and share with us please!
Right, because people are time poor Unfortunately.
But yes XR members and volunteers can take the gems of these vids and talks and take these excerpts, even have somone use the key points and "best of" moments and re-voice them (have someone else read those parts in smaller portions) I believe this will be very effective.
I'm truly hoping we see some doco type vids of the best parts of the protests for us in perhaps one hour intervals so as to keep people inspired.
Remember if we do not get the desired result straight away, keep faith because once it's out there, it's always there for us in the future and future generations to see the effort the love and the energy we placed in making positive change and perhaps Appreciate out struggle.
Stay Strong Everyone, And Remember As Che Guevara Said, "If I Do Not Win, It Does Not Mean That Couldn't Have.
And More Than This We Are The Ones On The Right Side Of History!
🌐🕯️⏳❤️ 🌎
Gradual changes and then BANG! A massive event that causes the sudden near complete awakening/mobilization of... and then we realize why the push to privatize water.
hahaha, there is not even free speech on Facebook.
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I get the sense we’re approaching a social tipping point. I’m thinking about starting my own protest group for people over 40. If people truly understood how high the stakes are, they would all be in Extinction Rebellion. So few are really getting it but the number is growing towards a tipping point.
There's only enough naive people.
i strongly recommend that you start a group that asks people to leave XR so that you can apply yourselves to more appropriately and effectively to waking people up to the issues - instead of alienating them.. a group that attracts an increasing number of people - rather than one that repels everyone apart from mindless sheep..
this is a cult
@@neohubris unfortunately after attending only one meeting and seeing these people in the street with their silly flags and glassy stares - it has become apparent to me that they fulfil the criteria of that very thing..
Oh Sharon, ask to see impiral evidence that what's happening leads inexorably to disaster,there is none ,only computer guesstimates, which up to this point have been woefully inacurate,plus the remedies being put forward are childly simplistic bordering on rubbish
Structural change may appear to change in 6 months, but it requires a long period of build up. As an analogy remember the penetration of mobile phones in the UK. In 1993 almost no one had one, by 1955 almost everyone had one. However, the first mobile phone was sold in 1984. That 6 month transformation had a 10 year build up.
As a young person, the repression is beyond social repression. As someone who is not established in my career, I am replaceable in almost any context. As such, the pressure to perform the role of "model young person" who doesn't rock the boat is not just social, but material as well.
Do you not think we have all been in that position? It's part of growing up or are you really that deluded that you are somehow special. Nobody has a job that can't be done by someone else. We are all expendable. The sooner you grow up and realise that, the happier you'll be.
Christ on a bicycle!
I think you gravely misunderstand me. You're absolutely right, I am not special in my case. There is an entire class of young working people who have somewhat similar feelings/experiences/material conditions as me. For you, happiness might have been coming to terms with the state of the world as it is. For me, given the possibility of a world beyond the one we have now, this realization gives me no such happiness. Instead it fills me with hunger, with desire, with energy to create a new, better future.
@@jonathanrockhill6039 I think that is the way to go. there are some who adapt to the system, others who despair, i am a cynic as well, but doesnt h
I must admit that Roger Hallam really has a lot more hope than I ever could. I don't see us doing much anything other than suffering to a bad end.
I don't think Roger does either. He's just trying.
Things begin to make more sense if one assumes governments and institutions also know we are beyond the point of avoiding the Ecological Overshoot Unraveling and are doing their best to control/manage the global public opinion. So we are already in the mode of global crowd control, hopefully to minimize suffering.
Have an upvote.
Yep
Either we are discussing the role of animal agriculture or we aren't having a serious discussion about the climate crisis. Thank you for this video.
We have to discuss a lot of different things. Solving global warming requires a number of changes. There are things that are absolutely necessary like changing to renewable energy sources and getting rid of fossil fuels completely and probably some negative emission technologies to achieve carbon neutrality and then there are optional things like putting a lid on your pan, when you cook spaghetti or going completely vegan.
Ive decided not to eat meat.. but im bummed cuz i just financed gas guzzler
I think where hes comin from that after this explosion of non linear rebelluon because of repression..
Like the animals we eat without reverence no respect.. living in horrible situations..see the animals are opressed so of course any sensible person agrees w your statement..but hes trying to discuss how all of us repressed including animals.. focus on finding that door cracked open in our prison...
Yes, we need more animal agriculture, meat is good food.
@@tonyr4873 not sustainable..insect protein is got real potential..
Regarding the low quantity of people who watched the previous video to the end: How about breaking the info down into shorter 5 min videos? The algorithm definitely seems to favor that and people generally prefer to watch, them I think
The only solution possible would involve getting the overwhelming majority of the human population to agree to make some consider to be serious sacrifices. Americans, for example, are so addicted to massive consumption that I am not optimistic. Sad to say, I think my grandkids are doomed.
The new rules from 2020 for the emission of particles from ship traffic, have an "unfortunate" and shown unintended effect. It brought down the emission of carbon particles. But the lowered amount means a lack of dimming effect which can be read directly on an unexpected temperature rise, globally.
Roger shoud be doing this presentation in Chinese.
To communicate effectively, this ought to be summed up in several vividly-illustrated clips of no more than a few minutes each that can bombard people! Sadly, very few people will watch a video for more than a few seconds, unless it GRABS their attention immediately! My attention is already totally on this subject… but this presentation drags on and on and on…
Yes, it's just one long ramble and the video title is ridiculously misleading.
I appreciate the passion, the urgency, the belief and the sacrifice Roger is making - but I can't help but think, it should be precision targeted.
It needs - and it pains me to say this - some seriously talented marketing people to squeeze out a coherent, simple and effective message.
Preferably one that doesn't involve "We are going to shout and shout and shout until Big Daddy Government listens to us. So Waaaah"
@@matthewtrow5698 Indeed! I respect Roger Hallam's role in the movement, and his information is crucial, but this is very far from effective communication--sadly, on what is truly the most important topic on the planet!
@@matthewtrow5698 Indeed! I respect Roger Hallam's role in the movement, and his information is crucial on what is the most important, key topic on the planet! But this is so far from effective communication for today. XR had some great clips going a couple of years ago, and I don't know what happened…
@@matthewtrow5698 that's an unfair unhelpful and rude appraisal of something by Roger who is doing more than almost all of us to ignite change. I think there's a lot in this presentation that is really helpful and practical - if you don't get that from i wonder did you honestly watch it? I agree it needs to be shorter, but there's a lot to cover and not everything can be reduced to sound bites. Please if you want to contribute something make it constructive and don't use insulting characterisation, it reflects badly on you.
@@glynbell7443 There's no insulting characterisation in my comment. I fully respect the effort and passion Roger has which is included in my comment.
However, the entire protest hinges on making government act through disruption.
I don't see this as being productive. The message is out there already, we have cop26 coming up, globally, millions are taking positive concrete steps.
Is it too slow? Absolutely.
Should governments around the world step up and provide trillions in funds to accelerate solutions?
Absolutely.
Should protestors block motorways, climb on top of trains to prevent them running, glue themselves to roads?
No. Absolutely not. It is self-defeating.
You are totally right, Roger. Nobody seems to understand the whole situation .
Yes. Imagination is more important than knowledge and that's what most haven't.
That's because XR don't believe in informing their members of the actual facts.
@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 So, you mean no one can see these videos? How come you saw it?
Nobody? :) Guy Mcpherson and The Meer project founder.
If you hadn’t seen climate change in the media, what evidence have you seen with your own eyes?
What gets me the most is not that we will become extinct but that it will take a billion years for microbial life to develop into an intelligent enough life form that can dig up artifacts of our previous existence
I think it’s highly unlikely that we will become extinct. Even if society totally collapses there will be some survivors.
@@atticustay1 Then the question is who will maintain the 433 nuclear power reactors and if they all melted down what effect would it have on the planet.
Big Pharma is more likely to kill us all than the climate. We've survived Ice ages and the Medieval warm period and CO2 levels much higher than today.
@@KristianSkylstad They already discovered a 900 million year old sponge. I wonder how long plastic straws will last?
Lol you think our species will have remnants that will last BILLIONS of years? Are you MAD???
If you cannot cool the entire ocean and Re ice the Poles. There is a run away heating. How do you do that without creating clouds or change the atmospheres chemistry?
So our examples of 6-month change aren't very good. The civil rights movement still hasn't succeeded and is moving backwards.
What are you talking about? The civil rights movement absolutely succeeded.
@@atticustay1 I respectfully disagree. Look at the multiple laws passed in America this year to limit voting rights. We are going backwards.
@@atticustay1 Tell that to the jerks in pick-ups with Trump flags flying yelling "ni__er" at my kids. That didn't happen in this town since it stopped publicly being a KKK outpost and became a "high class" ski resort. At least they learned to shut up for a couple decades.
Backwards ideas tend to move backwards, so an unsurprising result really.
'Small groups of competent people' This is how things get done, I was part of a community for the planet and it started wonderfully effective and because of this more and more people joined but 80% of them offered nothing but strong opinions and 20% made things happen. Making decisions in meetings just took longer and longer and became painful and unrewarding, even the most trivial of decisions could not be agreed on and that was the beginning of the end for the movement.
Sad
I believe some people join progressive groups in order to diffuse efficacy. And they get paid for this. And in the worst cases, those people take over and run the group and steer it off the cliff. I don't listen to people unless they walk the walk. And if they want to lead, they have to by example.
@@marcusbusby Maybe but most of them are just seeking some validation, to feel relevant and like their opinion matters so when they hold up a large group of people they feel like they have achieved this in some mis guided way. I think most initially successful things get over taken by its most clueless followers in the end. Usually those who want to lead are the worst ones for the job!
@@jedics1 Yes, I really believe it's not enough to gain a large following. The immense creative-generative power of those people must be focussed into constructive actions as opposed to sitting about on the floor in the middle of London, they could have planted a forest for example, using the same amount of people and the same amount of resources. They would have garnered more public support that way too.
@@jedics1 narcissistic personalities.
Thanks Roger appreciate your persistent message and fresh angles. To hear that there are likely lots of angry and despairing people awaiting the touchpaper to get galvanised into action, gave me some cause for optimism.
Yes, that point did really strongly move me. Resonates.
Just earlier today I started a dialogue with someone important to me in my business about how people make decisions based on emotion, and emotional communication, along with stories, are what change people's minds. She agreed. I listened to Roger until the end, while bottling my mead.
Emotions are not the best basis for making decisions, logic is. If you apply logic to any of Hallam's ramblings, you will realize what utter nonsense they are.
@@tonyr4873 What is important to you, Tony R?
@@enerjohnsavior3227 Many things, but in this context I believe that the truth is important. "Winning people over with emotional arguments" is not a way of finding the truth, it is a way of indoctrinating people into believing something that may not actually be true.
@@tonyr4873 I agree, truth is important!
@@tonyr4873 What's the logic that discredits Roger Hallam's views?
I was really hoping for solutions, instead we were given a talk on how to be disruptive. Sure I get the idea of critical mass that can force the governments hand... but what would their play be? What action can they take to 'stop the climate crisis'? What actions do we want them to take?
Maybe that's beyond the scope of this video but I would've loved to hear what we'd actually be aiming for with our disruption.
If they have a plan it's a good bet it doesn't involve you.
@@fredfredrickson5436 Well ignoring your smugness, I'd say a plan to 'stop the climate crisis' would involve/affect everyone.
@@DistinctiveBlend Not if you were an aggregated casualty of the final solution.
@@fredfredrickson5436 Well that's a prime example of how it would effect/involve me, which is in opposition to what you first said.
In fact, XR has a demand, it involves 3 demands. Read about it.
Roger, thank you for your videos, I am watching them, and hearing you all the way through. I am going to do this, I want to do this. I don't know if I'm one of the ten people who are going to be the spark, but I want to help. I'm a mom taking care of little boys, and I feel I have to do something to help. I've always felt like I had to do something to help but couldn't figure out how. I've done all the symbolic protests and marches and all that, to no avail. I've got a political science degree that I couldn't find a job to use. I've got time to study and learn while I take care of my babies and that's what I'm focusing my energies on for right now, is just learning as much as I possibly can. I know a lot of people my age (I'm 30) who are passionate and smart and intellectual, but also afraid and depressed and worried about what is going to happen, and have a huge sense of repression and the inability to do anything about these many many huge challenges for us. But this is the one, I am learning through your videos, this is the biggest issue to fight, or else there won't be any other issues in existence to worry about. So... I'm just leaving this comment so you know yes someone is looking and going to do something. But ohh boy, I am still working up the courage and smarts to actually do it. Thanks
If you have children you have already failed. Don't you know having children in the global north is the the biggest problem?
3-6 months AFTER 2-5 years of knowing what is wrong in the society. First talks, knowledge of an issue and then realizing what has to happen takes few years before most brains have processed the issue to the point that change is even possible. So first you need knowledge. We have that on climate issues. Then we need this rapid change in our behavior.
Let's shut down for six months. No cars, no day care, no grocery stores, no new suits, no office meetings, nothing. Reconnect?
Amazing like always. One of the wisest and most loving contemporary visionary is Roger Hallam. Thank you for the love and courage. Well be on the streets fighting for survival and as much democracy as possible.
I put together a "manifesto" some years ago, to address the ways and means to tackle climate change as part of an imagined decent government response. I called my manifesto "Marky's Mischievous Manifesto". It was called "mischievous" because I know right leaning politics take a great dislike to anyone and anything getting in the way of their profit raking and taking.
In that "manifesto", I highlighted several major interventions that would cut transport emissions in particular.
When I posted this "manifesto" on the Guardian CiF forum several years ago, I remember many right wing commenters and lurkers of the same persuasion absolutely tearing the "manifesto" to pieces. They came up with exactly the same uniform complacent response, i.e. "It's [massive cuts in transport emissions] not going to happen!!" All sorts of ridicule and brick bats were thrown at me and the "manifesto" at the time. I stood my ground however, as it's obvious we are heading for oblivion unless something massive is done immediately.
Lo and behold, just two years later, the government banned diesel and petrol car's completely within 10 years or so! This action made my "mischievous manifesto" suggestions look relatively tame in comparison. My centre-left orientated manifesto simply sought to set out a disincentive scheme to massively reduce peoples' transport emissions. So it came to something when the current Tory right wing government took it a giant leap forward and cut the entire ICE market completely!
So, what might look extreme in response now, in the scheme of things, particular the calamity that is already unfolding for many, extreme interventions and civil disobedience are the only things left to try to change things, as Roger is at pains to carefully explain.
Every other means of reasoning and persuasion has been tried until recently, and the emissions just keep rising and we quicken our pace towards mass extinction.
Climate change is real - Act now.
This is more unjoined up rubbish ,your mixing up climate change and atmospheric pollution ,2 separate subjects with differing causes and effects this is so disappointing
Everybody gets a cut from all the misinformation. CZcams gets the views for it's ads, politicians get their commissions from Pharma and allopathic quacks, Pharma gets big bucks from unnecessary interventions and useless drugs and vaccines. And Humans get to be used as guinea pigs for trial vaccines while animal lovers get to be happy about apes and rabbits and rats no longer being used for vaccine trials. And general public gets it's kicks from feeling cared for by all these phobia generators who use fear to make them sicker and poorer and so on.
First medical business made birth a disease. A natural act once assisted by a midwife is now a big money making hospital event with even poor in India being forced to fork out 1000 dollars or more just to have the pregnant woman followed through pregnancy and assisted with childbirth. Then death became a disease, when in reality death is the natural ending to birth. You enter the Planet alive and you have to exit the Planet dead...either from old age, or accidents or any disease that comes from being careless about one's health or well being.
Now a flu is being treated as a disease, when in reality it's Nature's way of getting rid of toxins that enter our lungs from car exhaust, coal burning and a hundred other factories spewing all kinds of chemical waste. This flu business is really BIG. Everyone has to get the flu, at least once a year and it has been so for hundreds of years. Two weeks and you are back to work.
Just imagine what a big business 8 billion people can bring to Allopathic rascals guided by their puppet organisation WHO. In the meanwhile the real reason for respiratory illness and the incapacity for healing and repair (generated by wi fi radiation) is due to heavy air pollution with millions of vehicles added to the Planet every day, every year and where is the CO to go? Every place in car and auto intensive countries has an air pollution index that shows CO in the danger red zone...very severe and CO (Carbon monoxide) poisoning produces the SAME SYMPTOMS AS COVID....Covid is the code name for CO (Carbon Monoxide) ..VID = passed off as a viral disease. The lockdowns stop people from driving around and adding to the CO levels. The word Pollution will not keep people indoors but the term "deadly virus" keeps them in. However the individuals managing the global populations are on the wrong path using "fear and superstition of a cooked up ghost virus"
To keep people in for Fear only leads to CHAOS....which is where everything is right now which ever country you step in. Tell the people the truth and have them awakened to the fact that we cannot keep adding CO to the air for it is fast replacing Oxygen, and the Human Race may survive. The only way out is to ride a bicycle with dynamo driven batteries, walk whenever possible and use public transport systems running on electricity with petrol being used only in emergency situations. A desperate need is there to return to natural environments and to make country living and natural environments attractive if we are to continue alive on this Planet. There is no easy way out and no quick over the counter or press button system to get us out.
The younger generation has to wake up and realise this or they can just say goodbye to having any future.
There is another way to look at this problem. We can make uninhabitable places habitable, starting with the hottest, driest places in the world. If we can make those places habitable (we can), then we have a model for the rest of the world. I am not in a hot desert, I am in Wales. But I will set up a project here to mimic the desert on the hottest days that we get. I plan to build a greenhouse on my own land and set up solar panels to generate enough electricity to drive enough aircon equipment to keep the air in the greenhouse at the optimum temperature for food plants as well as humans. There needs to be an underground living space and a hot and cold store to make this system work efficiently. No new technology is required. This stuff is older than me and I am 73. The experiment will have to show that enough water can be condensed from the air for the needs of the person plus all the plants to feed him/her. We need to discover how much glass is required per person, then extrapolate from that figure to the world. At present, I have no backing. I only have my own personal income which isn't a lot. I am not asking for money at this time, I am simply saying there is a way to solve this climate problem. I hope I have inspired at least one person.
I agree with taking personal action and not waiting for governments. Tho hot might not be the only problem. I thought if the gulf stream shuts down, you might have a mini Ice Age in Europe.
Tho I do enjoy your enthusiasm it's not really going to work cos the sun is in the most intense phase in forever for a month now erupting m class and x class flares (the arch shaped ones) 5 times the sun's diameter luckily they've been directed away from earth for now if mother nature is looking to "feed back" she'll do it in spades even if it takes a little assistance from our very own sun 🌞
What prison reading would you recommend? Last time I went to prison I took a 1000+ page university physics text book. Made quick work of it. Anything more relevant come to mind?
I didn't think they'd let you read books on the nonces wing
This video doesn’t explain how to stop the climate crisis but how to build public will. There is no discussion of the scientific and tech knowledge necessary to change what’s going on. Still interesting.
@Sam Bourgeois yep. We are the biggest hurdle.
Thank you for the talk as always!
If you enjoyed that, here is another great talk by Roger: czcams.com/video/Fg8sCtCsZPc/video.html
Roger at the 4th minute you mention historical events where radical change has happened in 3 to 6 months. Can you name a few please?
Doesn't take a genius to work that out. Think 1932, Ukraine.
@@squod1 It doesn't take a genious to work out what Andy was asking for and still you failed so maybe try to be more humble next time. Your answer is not only useless and arrogant, it is also wrong. What you're talking about is the holodomor, not the kind of events Roger is talking about, nor what Andy asked for. And to make it even more wrong, the holodomor was not what led to the protests that led to the dissolution of the USSR either so you're just wrong on every level.
World wars came to my mind. For instance, USA stopped making civilian cars almost immediately after Pearl Harbour and did not make any for few years.
I think suffragettes, civil rights movement and Ghandi
@@geraldineholmes4445 thanks. I could only think of events that had mostly negative consequences.
According to the Cambridge report going Vegan or Vegetarian would reduce by 50% individual CO2 footprint overnight. Taking personal responsibility in this way is more important than protesting and focussing on the behaviours of others, like they say the personal is the political.
Going Vegan or Vegetarian carries a 99% risk of turning into a tw@t
There are 2 billion more people alive today than just twenty years ago , so all we need to do is slow and reverse this existential and it’s job done , no need to thank me
I just signed up as a Patreon supporter for Mr. Hallam. I hope others will too.
You actually give money to this death cult leader. His ill thought out solutions and exaggerated alarmist nonsense are a dangerous combination. The guy is a tool of the globalist agenda.
And more generally just a tool.
He is a disgusting human being
Can we get a list of the 6 elements? I have watched the vid in its entirety but didn't note them down, and am now having trouble going back and finding them again by just doing a quick flick through! And was there a contact email addy for info on how best to do the leafleting that has disappeared?? Ta!
Protesting for unicorns won't get you a unicorn.
Brilliant, thank you.
Should a species survive that isn't motivated to save itself?
been on the verge of "climate crisis" since the 70s, its beyond tedious now
Ok, I've listened to the very end of your talk, and am a great fan of XR, but honestly don't think for moment that what you propose will have a significant effect on much of anything. It's simply too late. Whatever action is needed will not be directly influenced by your kind of popular uprising. Those in power KNOW what the public feels about the threat of Global Warming. Start by getting the 1% of super rich to change their ways (responsible for c.30% of carbon consumption!) and then target the two dozen companies or so responsible for the majority of CO2 emissions. Target those two in aggressive fashion and just maybe you might start something interesting.
Don't worry about it mate, the climate is okay. Enjoy your life instead of listening to all this doom mongering.
Partially interesting. Could do with a) describing what the enraged should be wanting Scientifically and in terms of Engineering and in terms of Economic change i.e. end of Capitalism [as we know it] or otherwise and b) describing the actions of the enraged within a language of Sociology alone [it is a valid area - but it is not the only 1] -> i.e. some sense of plan.
The challenge as I see it is how to redesign the economy works so that the market is free only at the point of sale, not at the point of production (so no free stock of fish, forests or minerals) or at the point of consumption (so no free disposal of carbon, plastic or any other pollution).
Since the Bank of England’s creation 300 years ago ‘the market’ has been busy consuming natural capital under the assumption that it was inexhaustible. Logically ridiculous but practicable as any future problem would be solved by the inflicted generations many years down the line. As population and consumption levels have grown the practicality of that assumption has shrivelled rapidly; the inflicted generations are now walking on the Earth.
Time is, indeed, short. But unless we start to talk about how we make money (rather than how we distribute it), we won't make any progress toward avoiding breakdown.
This is so simplistic it beggars belief, if your relying on this guy you are in deep trouble
How many of those 'leaders' of nations and those fossil fuel corporation representatives who spent time at COP 26 had already listened to this video? I'm willing to guess not many and one only has to listen to Roger to know he is telling the absolute truth, something one never gets from 'leaders' or fossil fuel companies. There is no time left, Roger has to be listened to and his wise words acted on.
Share widely.
Mandela used Marianne Williamson's work on Idea that "It isn't your darkness you are most afraid of. It's your light! And that playing small doesn't serve the world." So step into the brilliance of who you are and do your work. Paraphrasing. Mandela used these words, because he knew for him too, this is human truth!
Thank you, dear Roger.
Christ was reviled too, I hear.
Ps. Thank you for doing this😊
God help us
I strongly suspect direct intervention by God is the only thing which will help us now. Not being sarcastic, but believe we are now in a self-created mass extinction.
I hope Mr. Hallam is reading these comments... Mr. Hallam, I know you prefer not to get into specifics but I am wondering how five or six individuals hold an important public space or arena in hopes of creating a high level public disruption, if they're acting non-violently. I would be hard pressed to find an example of this. I understand activists have held ground for longer periods of time, but not in central locations where general commerce would be halted, (say an intersection of a major city or bottleneck of a supply chain) only in remote areas where they hoped to bring a halt to one specific corner of commerce. In other words, at Standing Rock we held ground for months, a disruptive event for the surrounding community and for the DAPL pipeline, but not for commerce on the whole of the state, or the United States. I found your presentation enlightening for the most part but it's lacking in explanation and design of #'s 6 and 7, framing demands and "making the demand winable."
You did make a difference. Everyone knows Standing Rock now. Including the fossil fuel companies who are slowly picking up the message. No more ff. More power to you. And thank you!
People have had much more than 6 months already - and now that XR has been around for awhile, it's also on XR's watch. Maybe there needs to be somethings that are more effective in parallel?
Let's be OPTIMISTIC and discard the problems haha. Problems are GREAT because if you know what they are, THEN you can work on the SOLUTIONS! :) A normal video on YT at last, without the boasting, is refreshing.
Prof Guy MacPherson was spot for over 10years….
Yes, and look what happened to him. And still, despite all that happened, he still perseveres. 😊
Great video, but really it was the last 5 minutes that made me really listen hard... I've been worrying about societal collapse since about 2007, and it terrifies me how quickly it's coming, and people still deny that there's even a problem. I've always been involved in more the positive solutions, but this really has me thinking about civil disobediance. THanks.
Yes I agree these need to be much reduced. The first point- we are being lied to- doesn’t appear till 8 minutes in. Not wanting to detract from this video or other very informative and inspirational material but what XR need - what we all need- is another Martin Luther King, a Nelson Mandela of a Mahatma Ghandi and they take longer to “grow” than 6 months. Theory is all very well but what is needed is charismatic leadership
Thanks so much. Thought provoking -and hopefully action provoking!
Roger is an excellent communicator and is able to anticipate reactions with humour and humility. Of course this is aimed at the few who might become emotionally engaged enough to do something now. There are differences with the Freedom Riders - the federal legislation was already in place - but global warming mitigation may be beyond what current political activism can achieve. So thanks Roger for the challenge.
We have the green new deal here in the U.S. There's a book released by Noam Chomsky that gives us the outline for climate change legislation.
Bernie Sanders, as well as a few legislatures in Congress, are ready whenever the public feels like pressuring our government.
"... an excellent communicator..." ? Oh please! I WANT to hear his message but his mumbling and rambling make this film impossible to watch.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I am sorry, but your two options are not cutting it. They are both practically impossible. 99% of all mined Titanium is in the form of white paint. We are never going to recycle this back. Are we going to sandpaper all walls? Unlikely.
The second option you mentioned is just nuts. You cannot contain nature in an "earth ship". Just the cycles of elements on the planet can not be contained.
I dont see any of those options as viable. But I am pretty sure I can predict to you what WILL happen. Its always been plan A for many governments of the world. Doing business as usual until the very last moment when basically everybody realizes whats going on and starts demanding change. At that point some government will pop up and quickly offer a solution in the form of geoengineering. The others will either follow along or go to war over it. And it will work. Climate change will be averted. At least temporarily. Humanity will see this as an excuse to do the same shit it was always doing. The entropy of the system will continue to rise until one fatal mistake brings everything to a quick standstill. Maxwell´s demon will be born and we will all go to hell :)
Thats how I see it playing out.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο It seams you are misunderstanding me. I know what an earth ship is. And it is an attempt to contain nature. If you dont see this, you are a fool. ;)
We are at the fight stage now. Keep pushing through peeps.
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Brilliant presentation
We are the choir and we would like to hear more significant material instead of a rambling monologue at us. We need to hear very specific plans, and we don't care that so many people don't care. OK, I am not going to listen to this anymore because he has no dynamic things to do. OK I'll listen to the end. This smacks of the hopium drug that some want to ignore at this point. If we do what needs to be done, then tell us what first, and skip the blather: we already know the stats, we already have heard the history, we already know the story...get TO THE F'N POINT.
Right. The civil rights and women's right to vote movements had concrete goals. Where's the specificity here? We can't just demand "less carbon emissions" even though that is what we want. We use carbon for our survival in extremely complex ways. We need concrete alternatives to demand - not vague ideals. This talk lays out a great methodology for demanding change, but it sorely lacks any specific goals in terms of HOW we can get off fossil fuel dependency.
Probably the MOST effective thing would be for everyone to refuse to consume the products of animal agriculture.
But the situation is not one in which governments have alternatives that can be changed as easily as racist or misogynist ideologies. Our climate crisis is very difficult to resolve even if the governments are willing to try. We need to demand specific solutions.
ERM... THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE... twat..?
Mate, haven't you realized by now, that all these people can do is ramble. AGW is not a real problem, therefore there is no real solution, so competing egos just ramble on that they have the best solution. Meanwhile the globalists that invented and propagated the AGW falsehood implement their solutions to gain more control over our lives and deepen our enslavement.
Nothing will happen until the rich and powerful have moved their shares, and they can make a profit from the crisis, bought houses in Tasmania, built super liners and space stations on Mars Barb
excatctly, only the slaves must pay extra for CO2, and elektricity..... its all extra tax, and humans MADE NO difference in climate change............ 1 vulcano put more CO2 out then all cars togehter......... if yellow stone break out, its the next ice-age. nobody get it..........
What Gropes are neer Manchester?
We need to put the technological and scientific leaders put into discord chats and video forums to figure out projects to work on, regardless of making money on the projects.
Such a vitally important message yet only 70,000 subscribers...
The human condition, as history has told us time and time again, means that no action will be taken until it's either already irreparably broken or its already too late to change anything without mass causalities - none more so than now.
People in general are not impacted enough to be concerned. Too many people shouting out the tale of "Peter and the Wolf".
This is not how I feel, BTW. However, while people feel "I'm Alright Jack", little in the way of active change will happen. Believing otherwise fails to understand the selfishness of people in general. Appealing to what little conscience people have when the going is still OK for them in general, will be a very tough challenge indeed - maybe even futile.
Anyway, I hope you succeed in waking people up to themselves.
I don't think that it's necessarily selfishness that prevents ordinary people from acting. I think that the system is just not set up for individuals to make a difference, it's a self supporting, self reinforcing trap. Quite deliberately engineered over hundreds of years by the people who profit the most from our collective apathy! Hundreds of years of social conditioning have made us pathetically passive and careless!!
how about you, Mark, are you wake?
@@dayamay8221 My only response to that is that we have a vote.
you seem to have been registered with the wrong last name
@@cutitoutmatisse8815 If only I had a pound for each time...
Let's see... 1) it's too late to rectify the situation. 2) we have 4-6 years to rectify the situation. (?) 3) therefore we must all rebel and go to prison to rectify the situation.
I am not at all opposed to people rebelling in an attempt to rectify the situation to whatever extent possible and to hold the perpetrators responsible, but just saying.
Time is up. Change needed to take place decades ago. Accept the hot world and plan how to survive in it while you still have a functional civilization.
@@thepepperlanders not quite, there is actually a difference between a bad and a horrendous situation. The climate catastrophe is non-linear. And day counts and makes a difference. We will decarbonize either by having some control or by having lost all control. Our choice to step up or to give up before having even tried...
@@enramurognirps I’m worried about those 433 nuclear reactors and their meltdown capabilities
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
@@thepepperlanders A few decades ago they were trying to con us that we were going to have an ice age, now the con is about warming. We HAD a functioning civilization which is going through a controlled demolition (with covid and climate falsehoods). When it has been sufficiently dismantled a new world order will emerge, which was planned all along. Carbon credit slavery, global technocracy, and total control over our lives will be our future if we go along with all this BS.
So how does your alternative system work ? Tell me that much at least.
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I wonder if you actually read it? Denmark ACTS NOW and far more than anyone else in the western industrialized world. This was meant to give hope and inspiration to citizens in the countries covering 8,5+ billions of people that dont live here. If you find this information bad, then I am sorry. Consider supporting those nations that ACTUALLY ACTS! Denmark have moved far beyond the demands agreed in the Paris climate agreement, are that not what you want? If we only attack without pointing towards those that actually ACTS, no hope or solutions will prevail as a potential gateway to turning the tide.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο Your non constructive Trumpian divisiveness are pretty sad when looking at the constructive factbased comments I gave. If you insist on doing nothing and not give a damn about next generations, it is your choice, not mine. I will mute you, as from now, so deliver your next tirade as you please, I am not going to waste anymore time with you troll.
You ask for commitment, an when you get it you ignore it!!
One day we'll all be voting for the Green Party. Of course, it will be too late by then.
global warming was discredited in 1886!
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
@@craigscott2315 Before it even happened? That's interesting.
@@Mike-ox8sq there is no sea level rise in the northern hemisphere! The climate scientists and experts part of the initial paris accord want their names removed! Because the issue is ecological devastation! Not a 50% reduction in water vapor the primary green house gas with carbon dioxide hardly even a trace gas within the habitable zone of atmosphere!
@@johnbanach3875 why interesting? What is interesting is most corporate media and many people who know better haven't once mentioned Mr Milutin Milanković.
I am not going to get my health advice from people who can't wash their arses after ablutions or know the difference between CoV and HCoV/ vaccine and genetic engineering. Or risk contaminating fresh water with cholera and other petrochemical nasties. Nor do i take ecological advice from people who poison wild plants with chemical weapons once used in violation of international law in north vietnam. To start with!
My only fear is, once the Government is overthrown, the people´s Assembly that will ensue, who can guarantee that it would be one that is going to promote the Planet salvation, or one that would simply bring more tirany? Like what happened after the French Revolution. Or I am seeing the things wrong?
Wrong or right, and it’s impossible to tell past a certain point with revolutions. We have to try something.
I don't think that the plan is to replace the government with a citizens assembly although the way XR talk about it , I'm not surprised that's what people believe . As a system of governance , it would be absurd .
The assembly is more of a tool that informs the government , it's not really that revolutionary .
XR doesn't even talk about how to improve the system as far as I know .
@@T1tusCr0w Agree
@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 I think it doesn´t have a full plan. But it demands what the Government commited to - and it´s not executing .
I fear the current system of government even more.
If you were able to get everyone to do what you wanted, how long, realistically, would it take to impliment everything you wanted to, or is needed to, in order to get to your goal. this is a worldwide scope and as detailed answer as possible would be great
I am looking at the truckers' disruption in Ottawa as it spreads and thinking that they are using these tactics! Are they going to win?! It seems they are being used by people like Bannon who want a total breakdown of the existing social order; but to what point?! Are we looking at a Mad Max future?!
I agree with you 100%, but as a evolutionary biologist i fear we are not unfortunately genetically predisposed to think about the ecosystem or to protect environment . Its all about reproduction and food. That is it.
If that were the case, then why do we have human rights or laws? If it were all about reproduction and food, then why do people choose to not have children, or volunteer to help others? Your theory is far too simplistic.
And you use that good info, please, to tell that evolutionary bit AND tell us all it will be necessary, a thousand times. Because then people believe. Thank you!
When prince Charles glues himself to the car of the police-chief or when Buckingham palace is flooded and destroyed due to torrential rain, or when British Airways goes bust because people refuse to fly to Spain, Greece, India or Portugal, only then something will change. I respect you and admire you, Roger, but personally I think we're too far down the wrong road. Massive, vulgar consumarism is going to kill us all.
Roger's ridiculous ideas of how to fix a non-problem, by dismantling our societies life support system would kill us all quicker than consumerism.
As Saruman he should create an army of orcs -- that would be a good start.
start with don't buy rubbisch from china..........
Any strategy that one chooses to use to prevent elephants from overtaking your home will be effective. It doesn't matter which one you prefer, it is going to work.
Very Interesting Video, pointing out an action plan for a small fraction of the population that could have dramatic results. But, people are different. People come in all levels of wealth, age, health, education, brains, morality, etc. This climate change problem is very much an issue primarily generated by the rich, because CO2 is primarily generated by the consumption/ownership of goods. The more one owns, the more emissions were generated in their creation and delivery. Owning stock is ownership in a business that emits. Of course some things emit more than others, but that doesn't change the fact that more is more.
The poor typically don't have the means to change what they own or consume. So the main solution to reducing emissions rests with getting the rich to take action to reduce their massive emissions. What Roger is saying is that one way (only way) to do that is to engage in clever disruptive protest. Perhaps it could be better to take the demands directly to the rich? Bypass the politicians? Is this even possible? It seems that a lot of the wealth of the rich is through the corporations that they have ownership in. Certainly a lot of the emissions are via the corporations. Were not the corporations invented to shield the rich from accountability?
When you state that, "This climate change problem is very much an issue primarily generated by the rich", you are almost correct. The 'climate change problem' was invented and propagated by the rich globalist elite. All of the people that have been conned by this are leading us into carbon credit slavery, global communism, and total globalist technocratic control over our daily lives.
@@tonyr4873 I think you ascribe it to an evil elite conspiracy. Rather I think it is simply greed, greed. Excess consumption emits excess CO2.
@@tedrees5989 Yes Ted it is a conspiracy, and there is greed there too. The big lie is that CO2 is a problem and the solutions they propose just give them more power and control over us. All the people that believe the AGW nonsense are the useful idiots that are helping to bring about this carbon slavery system.
@@tonyr4873 Obviously you are a climate change denier. With all the obvious evidence and the clear science, I just have to conclude there is something wrong with your though process.
@@tedrees5989 And you have obviously been completely indoctrinated.
With friends I say "you know we might just have to start taking a few less flights stop eating meat". "oh I could never give up my meat" etc. I guess you have to almost make things as antisocial as smoking to change behaviour.
The selfish part is there are perfectly good meat alternatives.
Some ideas:
For people:
- Learn about climate change and some basic physics (be aware of how energy flows)
- Ignore all populist propaganda, politics, anything which does not help solving the situation
- Measure your wealth and well being with respect to your ecological footprint (goal is good life with low footprint)
- Avoid any unnecessary travel, vacations, commuting (in jobs where it is possible)
- Cut down on everyday consumption as much as possible: energy, water
- Stop all luxury spending - Yes, I call you out top ~0.1%!
- Don't replace your phone or tablet before its battery dies out (one per 3-4 years, not 1)
- Don't replace your computer before it dies or becomes way too slow (one per 5-7 years, not 1-2)
- Stop buying other useless sh*t
- Stop following fashion
- Don't have a car if possible
- For remote communities try to share your cars as much as possible, so you need less
- Invest all savings into home energy efficiency improvements and energy independence (if possible)
For governments:
- Stop military spending world-wide and spend that effort instead on solving the problem which is everybody's enemy
- Stop taxing salary from jobs, so everyday people don't feel themselves being robbed
- Stop supporting all fossil energy projects immediately (even cancel existing contracts if needed)
- Tax all non-essential consumption in proportion of their environmental effect
- Introduce a global wealth tax above a reasonable limit relative to median yearly income
- Make all non-essential air travel super expensive (yeah, it will kill a lot of airlines)
- Support public transport and train modernization
- Support bringing jobs closer to employees' homes
- Support the development of clean energy sources and improving energy efficiency
- Support inventing ways to develop more efficient and reliable software and hardware, so we can do more with less energy
Like Miskolczi theory
Or we can just wait until societal collapse.
I think a lot of people believe 'the clever people in charge will sort it out'
roger's forgotten about December 2018 !?
Unfortunately as you can see in the video, the clever people don't have enough authority and audience to do anything about it.
If I can't even convince reasonable friends to use, do, and consume less; how on Earth can I mobilize powerful, self-interested, unreasonable people to impose fossil fuel moderation on billions of people in a consensual way?
It's hard not to despair knowing it is clearly a decade of two too late. The terrible truth is that crucial tipping points have been crossed, and natural feedback loops have kicked in and are clearly in control.
it makes even more sense, which does somewhat help us to make any sense of what has happened, to read Moises Naim's The End of Power. as you are reading it, it's easy to plug the GHE into it and understand just with air travel alone.... or container shipping alone... as your political counterforce when none of us, maybe not even H.W. Bush in January 1989.. or maybe not maybe on that one... have not enough power. it's something even Roger Hallam seems to have completely missed. Moises Naim's thesis, a 2013 read.
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@@happyjonn9242 Yes no doubt there will be catastrophic collapse. But does every nation have to collapse into anarchy ruled by gangsters? Can't some more enlightened nation, city or group of like minded people hang on and save what is best of human knowledge and culture even if rest of the world collapses and burns? I am dumbfounded that there hasn't been any effort to setup a segregated society or nation which can stand on it's own and survive independent of rest of the world. Putting all eggs in one basket is exactly where humanity has arrived at this point and humpty dumpty is about to go over the wall.
And here it is halfway though 2023. I'm rereading The Ministry for the Future. Nothing else has left such a strong impression on me.
What in God's name makes you think any of this will happen?
Not one single climate prediction has ever come true. Just think about that for a minute.
9:14 exactly.....the scientists and politicians need their jobs
If our world gets a bit warmer good oh bring it on GL
You need some basic information. If the world warms by 2 degrees it's not like today being 2 degrees warmer than yesterday. It's that the *peaks* will be two degrees warmer *on average*. This means the peaks will be amplified in certain places by much more, like the 50 degree celsius temperature in western Canada recently. That's hot enough to kill. You will also get 'wet bulb' events where the moisture held in the air is high enough to prevent sweating from cooling you down, so that's lethal in hot weather. You also get more extreme weather events such as hurricanes, floods and droughts as we are already seeing. These events kill hundreds at a time, sometimes thousands. As the world continues to warm, these events will continue to grow in frequency and severity.
Shit! I watched it 'til the end.
Good job I like porridge!
Incredible! Thanks
Thanks Roger
I like your vision. It gives hope. I prefer to think in 3-4 years instad of 2030 or 2050.
Agree with much you have explained Roger. Back in the day I and many others recognised the issues that as advocates of 'The Zeitgeist Movement' understood to be a fundamental corruption of the world and questioned 'here's Utopia' as an answer simply to campaign for. I get that Peter Joseph never meant this but how many didn't to leave as let down and frustrated?
If XR is to campaign for a sustainable future, I have and I do, we surely must have a vision that provides for a better world because we are sustainable and can do more with more energy to 'shake manifestos at' along with a world largely stuck in the Bronze Age (on purpose to maintain power) it must provide attainable vision. I would suggest.
What is the "it" in, "I'm doing what ' it'takes"?
So...An ad campaign. Advertise to people and get them to rebel.
Great idea. But the modern powerful version of sticking up posters is called an integrated marketing communications campaign.
Hopefully XR will try this approach.
28:25 - 2019 April XR event
32:17 - political will
34:21 - consciousness raising insufficient
35:50 - disruption conflicts with entrenched power
37:30- you dont highlight something if you want to change it.
44:23 sign up to engage in civil disobedience to the point of arrest or prison
46:40 - the greater the repression. The bigger the release.
1:43:03 - Make a demand that is winnable
1:46:40 - Ballpark number of arrests
1:47:40 - 5 people to jackpot
1:49:10 - Be prepared for sacrifice.
thanks, that's helpful. People can also cut and paste the transcript by going to the three dots (and switch between timecode or none)
We need to do everything that can be done while accepting the fact that the super-rich must become inconvenienced.
Playing God to fix the climat, outcome in doubt.
Which climat, there are so many climats ...
using hempcrete for building and going vegan are very powerful levers.
In your head
@@aiistyt what a constructive comment of yours a...hole
Vegans are too weak to operate levers!
@@tonyr4873 lol, pressing buttons is enough. but there are physically strong vegans, too.
@@WastedContender I'm sure there may be a few strong ones! I don't believe there is a problem that will be solved by giving up meat. But I do agree with you that more use should be made of hemp products, it's an amazingly versatile plant.
I didn't hear anything in this 2 hour long video about solving the climate crisis.
its about creating political will for a radical green agenda / green new deal
@@connerhughes1435 Still not hearing any solutions. The 'radical green agenda' is now mostly about the Critical Theory of Social Justice, not the environment. When the so-called 'greens' actively campaign against nuclear energy and genetic modification of crop plants, it is obvious that they are not actually interested in solving the problem. In the 1960's, a member of the radical group Students for a Democratic Society wrote 'The issue is never the issue. the issue is always the revolution'. If you watch the livestreams of the recent XR event in London, which are on their CZcams channel, you will see that sentiment alive and well today.
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
Honored to be viewer #325..
For the algorithm..
So, today is exactly 6 months after this was posted. Anything happening?
The Russians are successfully storing CO2 in the sea. They just stored a huge bunch of it in the Black Sea, inside a ship where it won't warm. So progress on this is ongoing like a bat out of hell.
@@grindupBaker Annual global CO2 emissions are now 35 billion tonnes, rising 2% per year. The average modern freighter carries approx. 25,000 tonnes. So you would need 1,400,000 freighters every year to store that year's 35 billion tonnes of CO2. But there are only 15,000 commercial freighters currently in service worldwide. So in the first year, you'd be 1,385,000 freighters short, and every year after that, you'd be 1,400,000 freighters short (plus 2% per year to cover the annual rise in CO2, which would be an additional 28,000 freighters the first year, 28,000+ the second year, etc.). So, you'd have to build 1,428,000 new freighters the second year - 96 times the size of the entire current global fleet - and you'd have to do that every year thereafter, steadily rising an additional 28,000+ per year... And how much additional CO2 would be emitted by the steel mills and additional industrial processes necessary to produce a global fleet 100 times the size of the current global fleet, every single year, ad infinitum?
"Progress" is going to have to go a lot faster than a bat out of hell to manage all that.
@@malcolmdean2303 It was very wrong of me to pull you leg. You likely haven't listened to the News for a couple months.
Pt. 4..is our weakness. Not to mention most of us are locked in to basic survival..
Well, I made it to the end of the video, Roger, in two separate viewings. I thought, if I’m it, all the world’s got, we are so screwed, lol.
I was thinking of getting my five people by going to the School strike this Friday with an Extinction Rebellion sign and approaching older adults who are there without kids because they’ve got nowhere else to protest and giving them a leaflet about a meeting.
Some silly questions... what about the ice sheet that covered Europe and melted 20.000 years ago or the fact that the Sahara used to be a savanah? Was that change also our fault?
How can a process be natural for millions of years and suddenly become man-made?
@@elephantintheroom5678 you are missing the point where it's literally the same process. Again, the ice caps used to reach southern France. And before that, we didn't even had ice caps. And repeat this process a few times to get where we are now.
Nature hasn't suddenly stopped working.
@@elephantintheroom5678 do you know the difference between 'starting' and 'accelerating'?
@@elephantintheroom5678 are you gonna tell me next that we are the ones moving the tectonic plaques as well? Damm, we need to stop.
The Sahara was lush at one time, and filled with big cities that over-farmed, lived out of balance, and created the desert - just as we are doing now. There are some amazing videos to watch, if you go look. Lost cities were not in the middle of desert when they were built.
The natural process occurred extremely slowly, giving nature time to adapt, the man made process has been extremely abrupt giving no time for nature, or us, to respond and adapt.
We are having 5 degrees above the 1750 baseline in Asia-NOW!
Grow up
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