Dr Rupert Read - The Uncertain Situation We Are In | Extinction Rebellion
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- Dr Rupert Read visited Cornwall to hold an open conversation at the invitation of Manda Brookman from Cafe Disruptif / cafedisruptif on June 20th 2019.
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Watching this gives me the same sick feeling in my stomach as my cancer diagnosis... I was at least given a 97% chance of survival...
The prognosis for the rest of humanity doesn't sound so good...
...and you are alive.
yeahh, humanety is finished. 😃
"I have met the enemy and it is us." Edited to add: it is heartening to see such a great discussion with such a thoughtful group.
Pogo!
Global climate change is not the people's fault, it is the policies perpetrated for centuries that caused the situation. We are simply puppets in a world that Do Not Belong To Us. We are cattle, laboratory experiments and the experiment is over. They are closing the Lab. We are fucked. It's simple.
@@jimviau327 You get rid of reliable energy and you will be raped, not just screwed. Things you might miss are food, water, flush toilets, clothing, heat, and housing.
What is alarming regarding food insecurity is the loss of soils and soil fertility which has been of great concern for decades. Added to this the insecurity of water availability whether that is too little or too much. Then Biodiversity loss of our pollinators, recyclers, regenerators etc. The biggest one though from what I see is the Massive Disconnect we have as a species with our environment. As Joni Mitchell said so long ago "We've to get ourselves back to the Garden" 1970
So why hasn't soil fertility affected our food? How is that even an issue?
its interstellar but years sooner
@@fish9468 our soil fertility and growth has been hijacked by Genetic Modification, GMO'S.
Totally agree. Since we put cattle into factories and started spraying clouds and fields with toxic chemicals plus filling lakes, seas and rivers with plastics we started the destruction of our home planet.
Permaculture for ever! RIP Bill Mollison. PS I preferred CSNY's R&R version.
Excellent discussion from a beautiful part of the UK. The emotion and earnest intention from those that contributed was clear and palpable. Rock on XR, the journey has only just began...
XR is rather like a general strike on a modest level. It could reach the level of a general strike if enough of us took action.
I'd like to see some more exploration of potential collapse scenarios. I think it's critical to discuss, in plain language, what systems will fail and when, as well as the tipping points preceding those failures, so that the average person can begin to see through the media smokescreen and recognize the truth of what's going on. This is of particular importance in the US, where the media works overtime to distract and deny the connections between extreme weather events and catastrophic climate change.
There is plenty of information of that type. Search CZcams and Google to find enough material to keep you busy for YEARS.
Yup....& start with Ocean Acidification.
Might find Jim Bendell's work of interest. jembendell.com/category/deep-adaptation/
clint,,, tipping points? there is no evidence of any tipping point ,,
And from what tiny 0.04% co2,, think you should tlk to any physisist,
Paul Beckwith, an Independent Scientist reports on actual data. The comment section does not paint rosey pictures. It's the most realistic channel, found for Climate Collapse, on CZcams. It tends to be most appreciated by those who have exposure to science, mathematics, etc. He has several short presentations per week.
This Extinction Rebellion channel is excellent because there is dialogue, which is very helpful for everyone.
What we NEED to do is start looking at Nature as Intelligent and stop trying to outsmart or better it.
bathsheba
“But I love it in spite of my better instincts”. -Werner Herzog
OR start looking at us as part of Nature (instead of separate from it) and if we harm Nature, we are harming ourselves - which is exactly what we're doing.
@@i_love_rescue_animals Exactly! We think we're above nature, but the reality is it doesn't need us, we need it💚
We find shelter in religion to anesthetize the realization that Nature not only bats last but bats nonstop. Humans cannot deal with the fact that we are temporary and we use our consumption lifestyle to distract from the 6th Mass Extinction.
@@richdiana3663 BINGO
The most important act of "rebellion" in service of the earth is to stop breeding the 230,000 new copies of ourselves daily.
Then don't allow abortion to be banned. This would not be the case if women's rights were equal to men's from the start.
Greeley Miklashek says:
"The most important act of "rebellion" in service of the earth is to stop breeding the 230,000 new copies of ourselves daily."
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So, how many do you think would be ideal?
Fewer the better?
@@allgoo1964 The Earth can sustainably bear ten million humans, even if those humans would be hunter-gatherers.
@@owndoc says:
"The Earth can sustainably bear ten million humans, even if those humans would be hunter-gatherers.'
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Who told you that?
@@assezzen194 do you have children?
Excellent! Words and actions are coming together. Many people must be waking up as I am here in Sendai, Japan.
Thank you, Dr. Read. The biggest threat to most of us is crop failure sufficient to cause scarcity of groceries in the stores. When this occurs, will there be rationing? Will families with children get preference for ration coupons over the elderly?
My personal logic-based impartial opinion is that there should be preference for ration coupons for the elderly. It's because they are nicer and better looking.
@@jacob13299 A lot of people will be shot. Do you think people in countries that are not as hard hit are going to let millions of climate refugees in to share already depleted resources? No way!
Cheryl Lee exactly! Now the EU is spending £80 million on drones to monitor the Mediterranean for refugees rather than helping them. And XR rebellion protestors are being prosecuted in the UK 🇬🇧 for peacefully protesting. We need to make XR a mass movement. 👍🏻
take it on!
I found this very therapeutic in that the climate change crises are authentically addressed - not only in problem definition but some scenarios of what solutions would look like and what I can do. This is not to say that there are absolutes and that the Extinction Rebellion has the perfect solution. I do feel they are light years ahead of the political-corporate ruling class in leading the direction we need to be going. Well worth a listen.
Hopefully this message will resonate with people. If not, extreme weather will change people’s minds.
Never underestimate how much the general public can understand. We don’t need to dumb down our speech. We just need to be real.
Never forget that you're not in control
Inspirational and smart. once it gets going, this becomes a wonderful conversation. Audience has thoughtful questions. Good sound quality throughout...Thank you for this...
The 'basic living allowance' for all citizens needs to be intricately part of the massive change-down from this industrial world. This is one way to make folks feel safe!
In the USA the Yang 2020 Presidential Campaign in the Democratic Party has this policy.
Chris Namaste
Yes and also Marianne Williamson.
Vote for Bernie
this is the most uncommon sense that i have herd in one place in a very long time , these people need global platform bigger than the main stream media . we all need to be on the same page .
I don't know what the carbon footprint of 8 billion rotting corpses is, but that is all humanity will be doing in 2050.
12:06 "carbon neutral by 2050"... which is about 60 years too late.
The slack in the food supply is in food waste and feeding grain to farm animals. Limiting meat to two days a week in schools and the public sector in general would cut down emissions dramatically and particularly if it is tied to a public information campaign ie telling the truth on climate and diet.
In the near future I think meat will be very scarce because it is too water intensive to produce.
@@cheryllee81 Yes, very good point, and one that MPs could be reminded in terms of food security. That resonates with the need for a meat tax but also the need to ban cages and stalls as they are barriers to reducing stocking densities and conserving water, grain and energy.
Thanks for talking on 'food security':
Smaller food, failed harvests and off-season flowering - where are these numbers?
It's been on my mind a lot seeing the migration all over the world
"while effects in northern latitudes may be positive or negative"
On the agriculture Wikipedia & climate change
@@harmhoeks5996 EH!
Thank you , Thank you, Thank you . You are reaching far deeper into the awareness o the public than you think. Internet providing ordinary people access to these types of discussion w which we just would not have otherwise . It's happening, people are hearing you and a calm intelligent response is the way forward. I'll be listen out for future talks. Again, thankyou.
Excellent. Thank you for spreading 🙏🏻
Pesticide use can be rduced by planting in guilds which would require an increase in rural jobs. Crop rotation reduces the amount of nitrogen needed in agriculture, intorducing a nitrogen budget with targets would reduce the use of nitrogen, save energy in manufacturing and reduce nitrous oxide emissions from farming. Nitrous oxide is a powerful greenhouse gas and damages the ozone layer so there are major benefits in reducing nitrogen fertiliser usage.
All good ideas. Low or no-till also, to re-carbonized the soils (also a powerful CO2 drawdown.org action). Putting a price on climate pollution is one of the biggest things we can do: citizensclimatelobby.org/why-carbon-fee-and-dividend
it is a great relief to hear Rupert Speak sufficiently seriously about this current world crisis. The need for a spiritual paradigm shift is most relevant, and, specifically, that humans alter their fear of death ( put in simple terms).
Please refer to my attempts to outline the necessity, insight and science-based reasoning around this alteration, on my channel.
No one needs to develop any type of "spiritual approach" in order to learn to treat the effects of all of their actions with a high degree of respect.
@@myra7273 Spiritual approach. Yes. Not religious. Spiritual. The answer.
1300 views in one day; CZcams does nothing to promote this like the vacuous garbage that gets millions of views and hence they are part of the problem. They are the musicians on the Titanic....
Since this channel has just under 16.5 thousand subscribers and they upload this frequently it’s not much of a surprise that it’s viewership takes time. The promotional algorithm needs this video getting sudden increases in viewer retention that also fit any other larger trends existing at the time. The more it’s shared and linked to other sites, the more likely it will be promoted
a depression needs to be set off by a small number of terrorists or a small country like north korea. those people aren't talking publically.
The musicians on the Titanic had a clear perspective on the horror that was going to happen. And they made a conscious decision what stance they would take in the face of catastrophe. It would be somewhat unfair to compare them to our average western consumers.
Except they're without honour.
“Evolve or perish. Grow up or die.”
- Michael Rupert
Yess!!! One more american. Down for the rebellion. I'm doing my homework and I will fight this fight. Its long past time for this country to wake tf up. I'm ready to sound the alarm!! Lets do this!
So it's great that Rupert is doing his best to get the message across of impeding extinction of all life on the Planet. What we all have to understand is the driving force for all the environmental issues we face today and in the future is due to the growth in numbers of the human species. In the space of 95years we have gone from less than 2 billion people on the planet to now more than 7.7billion people on the planet. Find out more at www.populationmatters.org
Right! I'm actually astonished / surprised when I see so many people having kids (still) - it's like, they currently don't see the future as I see it (bleak). It actually saddens me when I see babies and young children - I shudder thinking about their future (and maybe even mine!). 💔
95 years is a poor example...too vast for most minds. How many babies were born during the last 20 years?
you can't be this stupid.....what these people want is for millions to die of children to die!
Such a great discussion. I'll forward this on to everyone I know.
There has to be a spiritual approach to all this otherwise there will not be enough cohesion in the approach
BINGO
I breathed a sigh of relief when I read this sentiment. I wholeheartedly agree with all of my Soul and Spirit. I, too, believe that this is the missing underpinning of all that is negative, within humanity, on Earth.
Wishing you eternally blessed.
May your Angels guide you and guard you.
I believe that Evolutionary perspective as brilliantly explained by Steve McIntosh and Carter Phipps is a spiritual view that can unite us and give us meaning and purpose. It is time for us to become responsible creators of our own evolution and caretakers of life on Earth.
The Evolutionary perspective as brilliantly explained by Steve McIntosh and Carter Phipps is a spiritual worldview that could unite us.
Say no to the enemy of the people.
Anyone know who was that Cornish farmer, and where do I buy his stuff? First farmer I've ever heard quoting his footprint numbers, and to have a net-negative farm already is brilliant. More like that please.
That's Chris Jones of Woodland Valley Farm. He knows what he's talking about! :)
I heard nothing about net-negativity. Its impossible to be carbon nevtral while haeving livestock...unless you dont eat meat and have the animals just for work.
@@drekpaprika if you are building organic matter in the soil, you are sequestering vast amounts of Co2. That's how you can be carbon neutral. You build the soil. Using livestock dung. It's how the carbon cycle works.
Thanks Mandra, very few people get the big picture of this. There has been such a big push to 'go vegan' to save the world with very little verification of the impact this will have. Silvopasturing is such a beautiful way to go. We must stop feeding cattle grain - it is force feeding them junk food in a cell, it degrades the land and is a gross misuse of crops. Cattle need to eat grass - it is the most direct way to get sun (new) energy into the food cycle and into the soil.
@@mandabrookman3777 Sorry, but you have a severe misunderstaning of the carbon cycle. Look up what trophic levels are and how much energy is lost between them. There is a reason why predator are rare and pray is common in nature. There an not be more deer then there is grass right? I have livestock myself and there is no way that you put in the same amount of CO2 you get out. Farm animals get fed by foder from outside. Just calculate how much a cow eats per day and then calculate how big of a grassland you need. Then calculate how much calories you wuld get from the same amount of land if you would be eating the grain istead of the cow. Yizzz people! I am a biologist - I kow what I am talking about. Vegan agenda my ass. Its pure mathemathics and understanding of ecology.
Useful discussion, I feel. Rams the point of immanent collapse home more than some others I have heard recently...but offers some interesting ideas for the ways forward at a practical level.
Please consider the 'debt- strike idea' outlined on the 'Lord Hugh R. Adumbass' channel, who has produced nearly forty videos in the 'No escape' series, covering the extreme complex nature or what we face. He offers other solutions too! I cannot recommend this person highly enough for anyone seriously realistic about our human situation.
Love that idea of language shift from 'unless' to 'therefore' at 1:19:00. Will suggest this in my local XR
WOw!--I wish that I had people like these around me. Everyone that I have spoken to on the subject in or around where I live gives no credibility to the whole climate change issue, or environmental damage, whatsoever andI get the distinct feeling that they regard me as an alarmist or crackpot for even broaching the subject
Same. Ironic, isn't it, that the single biggest threat to our species is the very same one that people don't want to acknowledge.
At least so far, not a mention of population control. It is troubling that population reduction isn't a centerpiece of the "transformational strategies for the near future. From what I understand, the "Green Revolution", which saved humanity at one stage, is now one of the drivers of the predicament we're in. I would like to know more about this and why it's being neglected as one part of the effort to deal with the issue.
Intensely depressed in that despite all the really good things people have done over the last thirty years since we learned we were trashing the planet, all that's happened is we've slowed the increase in annual co2 emissions globally. In truth we've not even stopped going backwards! No hope left.
Thank you for helping in every way for everyone and to this planet, we need to each other because to keep changing, every help is need to keep living.
When our thought is empty our feeling is everything
Every animal can think and feel, is sense to me, and you?
Live love, be love.
Just keep going and speak the truth.
The Noam Chomsky School of Debunking Myth and Lies is the best method to tackle misinformation and propaganda.
Grace Lee Boggs said "reimagine". It is easier for me. At 2 yrs I saw through the window a bond demolition my neighbour's home. I know conflict and vulnerability. For my first 14 yrs we had food rationing. I remember the fear of invasion and tyranny. But I remember community, our Queen's coronation and my first ice cream. I remember the joy in the small things and pleasures hard won. My great grandchildren will grow up with hope and purpose, it is the human condition. It is my children and grand children that will hurt the most, until they find purpose in the very small things.
Nope. Hope is over. Courage now. Sorry.
Here is a transformative adaptation you could promote: Stop mowing lawns and verges
Permiculture them.
EXACTLY
Amen! Remember the words of Laozi "That, which imposes itself though force, wears out. That is, it goes against the Dao. Everything that opposes the Dao ends."
It’s time to write the UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF ANIMAL RIGHTS.
We should have been net zero yesterday!
I try, whenever appropriate, to apologize to young people. We adults have acted in a way that shortened their lives. As I write this, I wonder if our behavior constituted a crime.
Tom Dehen no, your behaviour does not constitute a crime. I’m 19 years old and I am confident that that we will overcome this crisis and learn from our mistake. Not condemn the actions of a previous generation but learn from there error and look to the future with a better attitude.
Tom Dehen Honestly I’ve been resenting adults for a while about this problem... but I guess it is not helpful so I try not to let it get to me so much. Idk
It is criminal, IMO.
In the past when we were on a whole more brutal, those more vicious would have been considered more courageous & would rise through the ranks in accordance with their successful military achievements.
These day require that such person but from an opposite perspective, those willing to step up & actively do something for Earth & each other, this is courage & you will have done something if you do not hurt anyone or anything intentionally but want to do something because you know its for the best of our overall pleasant existence.
There is no them or they, there is only us & we are not waiting 10 more years never mind 50 or even 20. We are not waiting with half hearted hope, we are striving forward with Faith
17:30 - 20:20 Yes, more thinking like this! While the window for transformative adaptation remains ajar, even if only by millimeters, let's try to push that window open wider, while working to prevent worst-case scenarios in the event of likely collapse (e.g. nuclear power plant deep adaptation).
@silvercountry That's just fearmongering, any nuclear power plants would be shutdown before being consumed by rising water.
"This civilisation is finished and what I mean by that is the the only way we are going to get through this crisis without there being some kind of collapse event is if we completely transform everything so much so that it wouldn't be recognised as this civilisation" No, practically speaking we're going to have to go with what we've got, making the best possible use of our industrial civilisation in order to remedy its deep faults and that will require a huge economic mobilisation on a global scale which is possible, we've already done that on a smaller scale during the two world wars, though obviously we've got to stop war fighting As with many eco-pessimists he totally underestimates the potential of our industrial civilisation, if it is properly managed. We only have twelve years to get major measures in place, that means a rainbow alliance on climate action and we're going to need to be very positive and constructive. "So I’ve even started doing a little ‘prepping’. E.g. I’ve bought a bullet-proof vest for my partner and I." Well I won't be buying a bullet proof vest anytime soon!
The situation is not at all uncertain, as we are certainly in deep shit.
I think it's good that educated people can sit and talk about this subject. A focus was on how can they relate the message to the 'ordinary' people, what kind of language to use etc. I think you are all living in cloud cuckoo land. To highlight the point one of the audience said that their MP would not address questions relating to climate change and wondered why that was the case; it was also mentioned whether the government or government agencies had contingency plans for food shortages. I would think that if there were food shortages there would be mass social unrest, government contingency plans would be how to control the population. Ordinary people are not going to sit about and discuss the situation they will take action to satisfy their basic human needs. People are greedy (that's why we are in this mess) and they won't just want their 'fair' share they will want more. Seriously what do you think will happen when the inner cities empty out into the Cornish countryside, will they work on the farmers land, no they will just take what they want and remove any barriers. If the situation is going to be anywhere near what you are suggesting regarding the effect of climate change and it's consequences then there will only be total carnage.
I’m glad this “civilisation” will collapse. It deserves to......greedy, self-indulgent and indifferent to the suffering of others.
Kathryn Hayman I agree
The collapse itself will bring about still much more suffering though
I hate this attitude just as much as you do (I suppose), but I don't understand how you can say this. Aren't you "here", too? Isn't there good people, things you love, animals, children, songs? This "civilisation" must change, and should have been better for it, for a looong time (and I said so, and nearly always was an outsider for it). But I don't think genereralizing is good. It's more complex than that, in every culture there is better and worse individuals and if you don't want to generalize other civilizations why this one?
@@waslias - don't we have a responsibility to leave the Earth as good or better than we found it for those who will come after us? Here's how we can step up and help make the necessary changes: citizensclimatelobby.org/why-carbon-fee-and-dividend
But it’s going to collapse on those who played no part in making it what it is today - our children and millions of other species! They don’t deserve that.
We need the truth and the facts. Simple. Greta conveys this brilliantly. Do that.
Veganism is actually essential for our climate since it halves our carbon footprint and saves ecosystems.
Actually...regenerative agriculture.
Veganism gets them every time. Eve those people are unable to think it throu. They also want to keep their bad habits. Also: telling people that they have to stop eating meat takes away their will for life. Eating meat is esential to many peoples lives. If they cant eat meat, life is not worth living for them. Thats why almost no nature conservation movement mentions it. Sad, but true.
The Importance of using hashtags to grow the numbers in worldwide movements, that run parallel with the concepts expressed by Rupert Read and XR, is very important.
In Canada our ongoing #indigenousrights #reconcilliation #noKXL #MMIW #sept20 #generalstrike #FridaysForFuture
We also gots Mister CanadaSocioPolitico The Peoples Party Website in Canada.
They all got sold either a city life or a chance to retire in the vales. No one was given a chance to understand reality. Kill the petrochemical companies if you want to live.
I don't foresee a significant food shortage in the UK for some time; we still live under a capitalist system, when there is an overall global food shortage, what food there is will be sold to the highest bidder. It's the poorest people who will starve first, most likely in the southern half of Africa. We already have tangible evidence for this; Kenya is bordering on famine because of a prolonged drought, but British supermarkets are still selling green beans grown in Kenya.
The Titanic musicians facilitated confusion, denial, and made it seem as if it were business as usual, which contributed to lifeboats being launched half full.
She asks about eliminating food waste -- that's another issue where personal action is dwarfed by the meta-level of policy and government behavior. If there was a leader who called people to rationing, shared effort, shared sacrifice, equal levels of discomfort, people would join together to accomplish what we need to have happen.
You make the statement that 'life is wonderful'. many many humans do not have that perspective and would love to have the offer of voluntary euthanasia in this end of times type scenario.
Also, The idea of the musicians on the titanic was very much one which appeals to many folks... Acceptance of the probable fate ahead and thus some folks providing the necessary comfort. Also,comfort for those who know the end is nigh. And, distraction for those many who are, for many possible reasons, oblivious of the coming catastrophe, or who simply don't care, thus much criminality and chaos being avoided as long as possible.
But the Titanic was sinking and it wasn't salvageable. We have hope, but more importantly we have options, we can change this situation, we have that power. We can all save the world 🌎🌍
@@palomawoma Not hope...no....courage...but not hope.
@@bathsheba9581 Pessimism and cynicism help no one. It's about realism and action. There are many solutions to this crisis, we just need forward thinkers to enact them. Arrogance is entirely down to you Sir, we caused the mess, we can clean it up. To not even bother to help is arrogance to the extreme
@@ladyslipperland Hope with action is essential. We have a long uphill battle and for many of us, there are days we lose faith. But hope, you can never take that away from someone, it is a very powerful emotion
It’s the devils way now. There’s no way out. You can scream, you can shout. It’s too late now-Thom Yorke
"Everything will be fine, If we just cut right back". Holy shit. NO. Things will never be fine again. Deal with it.
What does "dealing with it" look like?
Relax, these people are really doing nothing. Enjoy your life. He said it is too late. Don't waste your time with this cult.
@paul8kangas No, there are virtually NO vaccine injured people. Myth. Paranoid thinking.
Things that we can all do is get solar panels, thermal and photovoltaics. I’ve has a thermal solar panel for 30;years. When I buy gifts for people instead of buying stuff I give the money that I’d spend to the woodland trust and plant or now it’s tree dedications. Join the woodland trust since they acquire a new woodland almost every week. So they are brilliant.
Just letting you know this farming season here in the USA had been terrible. Im not sure how this will affect world food supply cuz one cant rely on our Dept of Ag to have correct numbers.
I tell all my friends and family to start buying canned food, beans, rice, grains now because the mid-west is still underwater. The crop yield is going to be LOW. Learn about the native edible plants in your area.
Late evening before last, I walked my dog to the top of a hill partially overlooking the Pennines and North West of England, including the Wirral and Cheshire as far as the Welsh mountains. While ascending, I was struck by the most unusual intermittent waves of heat that moved across the land, and through us. I felt the energy of the world forests and felled trees of recent time dissipating, and a strong sense of what is to come. People of society everywhere have no real idea of what is to come, of what the lies have done to their children let alone grandchildren, especially those who choose not yet to feel these things, but to think money, medicine, modern chemical and machine is going to save any of us is a wishful and non practical delusion; those things, actions and attitudes are what have brought us to this BRINK. I've been ignored and laughed at while warning at least everyone in my home town, since I awoke to truth that we are on the brink of no return for the past 28 years. The suffering of the many have not yet begun, but it will, while I witness with regrettable disappointment as so many continue to cause the 'ship' to sink; it will be slow and increasingly disturbing. 26/08/2019
The fundamental problem? Human greed. Until we tackle that the problem will always persist.
46:20 The farmer's data may be correct but the net calories produced are far less per unit area of land and there is not enough land on Earth to support this "agro ecological" conversion with the current population; this approach might work for 500m but not for 8000m people. The studies have been done and they conclude that growing and feeding soy to cows generates fewer GHG than "grass fed" cows but of course is NOT carbon neutral.
Looking forward to more presentations and discussions, and with people of color included.
No one was prohibited to take part I presume.
Not vegan? Not serious
The study, published in the journal Science, created a huge dataset
based on almost 40,000 farms in 119 countries and covering 40 food
products that represent 90% of all that is eaten. It assessed the full
impact of these foods, from farm to fork, on land use, climate change
emissions, freshwater use and water pollution (eutrophication) and air
pollution (acidification).
“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact
on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification,
eutrophication, land use and water use,” said Joseph Poore, at the
University of Oxford, UK, who led the research. “It is far bigger than
cutting down on your flights or buying an electric car,” he said, as
these only cut greenhouse gas emissions.
The new research shows that without meat and dairy consumption, global
farmland use could be reduced by more than 75% - an area equivalent to
the US, China, European Union and Australia combined - and still feed
the world. Loss of wild areas to agriculture is the leading cause of the
current mass extinction of wildlife.
Please consider reading "Why Climate Activists Will Go Nuclear-Or Go Extinct" written by Michael Shellenberger
Essentially , we cannot use carbon based resources any longer. Any mitigation strategy boils down to leaving coal, oil and even natural gas in the ground. If you don’t restrict access to these resources you will not affect the continuing growth of carbon dioxide parts per million in the atmosphere. Presently, the long term graph of carbon parts per million and the corresponding increase in global temperature , even with the enormous increase in renewable energy resources or any other forms of mitigation , has not changed whatsoever. The conclusion must be ,therefore , that the mining of use and transport of all carbon based resources must be made thoroughly illegal. There are ,however , certain situations of carbon use for which there are ,presently, no alternatives. These must necessarily be grandfathered in , for instance, flying and cement manufacture ,albeit the continued provisioning of these and things like them would need be ever more inhibited. There needs to be a rolling protocol ,so to speak. For example, a public utility fueled by coal in a certain locale would by law be replaced by the same utility fueled by renewables or nuclear power once the new sources of power were put in place. This must be accomplished very quickly,as we all know. From locale to locale this work must be done. There really is no choice. Carbon resources must be kept in the ground or we simply will not survive. They will become stranded assets, meaning the loss of trillions of dollars to those who own them. Like tobacco but much , much worse those who own these assets must finally allow that their continued use will kill us all but unlike tobacco there must be a well executed plan to essentially ban their use. There was a mistake made and perpetuated some two hundred or so years ago to base our civilization on carbon . This mistake must now be rapidly corrected.
I wish he was wrong but he isn't.We are heading for a cliff edge and probably go over it.I was talking to a scientist about this ten years ago.He did scare me then.
More powerful than individual choice is our collective ability to change market rules. When we put a price on pollution nearly everyone will be motivated to make the right choices, including businesses. Charge fossil fuel producers a fee, rebate the money collected back to all households equally, and you can send a strong price signal. Carbon Fee and Dividend will reduce emissions by 50 percent in twenty years and by 90 percent in thirty: citizensclimatelobby.org/basics-carbon-fee-dividend
Join Citizens' Climate Lobby, a grassroots, nonpartisan organization of over 100,000 volunteers working to create the political will to enable our elected leaders around the world to act: citizensclimatelobby.org
University campuses should be turned into market gardens , growing food for all in the area.
24 days later? Try to upload next day or that night please, thank you!
In the USA there is so much governmental resistance to change that we all must cease and desist from playing along with the overarching hypocrisy. #ExtinctionRebellion is the right approach, but I like #Greta's approach even better. We are making progress..., might not happen in time, but we are at least getting some traction...
When do we start creating new civilizations in the North East of Europe?
With the increase in people coming in got no choice to expand and increase consumption so eventually the entire island will be leveled and full of cheap houses built solely on supply and demand demand is high at the minute getting more people quicker than they can build
Lets join up and do something people! Buissnes ad usual will get us nothing and nowhere! Doing something is better than doing nothing.
Only rear animals in places where it's appropriate to do so. I adored that entire agriculture discucussion in this video.
Your message of hope should be, we all have one thing in common. What is that? We all love our children individually. If we extend that to our human family, there is hope.
cally starforth hill I am sorry you have no hope. You do not understand the thesis of my statement. We are too angry for that. We have to teach our children and let them lead the way. We belong to our children, not the other way around.
cally starforth hill i’m sorry you do not understand. Our children deserve everything we have to offer. The hope is, we do love our children. I hope one day you will understand and have a good life.
the 'easiest' way to change this system of infinite growth without any collapse of society that I can think of would be to make it financially worthwhile for people to start sharing the jobs that WE (somehow) decide WE do actually NEED people to do and work LESS.....there is no other way to get people to stop doing all the millions of useless jobs producing all the rubbish we don't NEED and destroying the planet in the process.
Yes. There was an absurd idea being thrown around by "experts" in the 1960s when I was a kid that the work week would drop to 30 then 25 then 20 then maybe 15 hours as "labour saving devices" multiply. It was immediately obvious to me at the time that it was total crap so I wasn't disappointed & depressed at all at what actually (inevitably) happened. It's because most (or much anyway) "work" has no overall useful function to human species (or any species). It's just a way of establishing pecking order (wealth, whatever) so it's utterly limitless because it's a fabricated construct (lawyers argue with lawyers etc.). Sure there are people in the trades and manufacturing making handy things, and scientists and doctors, but there's a huge group of people who simply spend their time competing with other people, shifting "wealth" around. Actually, the people in this video are a perfect example. What they are doing is mostly planning how to argue with other people.
@@soloman6156 .....no one will stop buying the rubbish until people stop producing it in the first place!!!....make it financially worthwhile for people to share the jobs we do NEED people to do and very soon nobody would be doing the jobs producing the rubbish we don't need. you can't buy junk if nobody is making it.
@@soloman6156.. yes ..We either end capitalism or we keep on trying to make it 'work' until it ends us!! It's an infinite growth consumerist system..and I guess you could say that had 'worked' ok when the planet and it's resources had almost seemed infinite and the population was small in comparison. We have to change to a sustainable system..(our very lives depend upon it) and that sure isn't capitalism.
@@soloman6156 ..for sure an RBE system will never happen if the majority of people don't support and agree with it....unlike all other systems and ideas it cannot be forced on anyone through bloody revolution. As for humans being selfish..selfishness is an absolute requirement for success in capitalism but I don't think being selfish is really what the majority of humans really want or like to be. ...Unlike capitalism, In an RBE system, selfishness would simply have no reason or reward.
Non-violence is more than just s sound political expedient: it is borne of good will and spirit.
Yet death may flow as a consequence, as Ghandi’s triumph led to the genocide of partition.
Yet must you go forward, for there is no retreat into the past.
great ideas but we need to get boots on the ground and help other organizations already working to restore that what's has been destroyed. All talk no action will not improve the situation one bit. Harrison Fords speech is profound and he is absolutely correct.
Extinction Rebellion, you should be more concerned about 5G? Extinction may be sooner than you think if EMF health concerns aren't addressed.
The sunset ... but I’m not a hippie. .... so this is an indication of how we separate ourselves from nature and the cosmos.
carbon is only a tiny part of change. there is habitat, and loss of water, climate is just one part of the entire change.
Yup, and it's all connected. :)
Jobs in a future overheated planet were mentioned. A major reason for warming is that the 1% of people who control the money supply also control the job supply. People do jobs that pollute and warm the planet in order to buy a share of the Earth's resources for them and their families.Thus,we need to lessen the power of that 1%,perhaps even to the extent of ending the use of money and the goods exchange mechanism as it currently is. The pursuit of and greedy holding onto money is what has brought us to this crisis.Resources need to be allocated on a communal basis,not a financial basis.
1:01:30 Well said
I think the St Neots ladies will make the big steps, they seem inspirational to me.
What can one do? Add house plants to your home, grow some of your own food. Its surprising how much you can grow in pots. Reduce reuse recycle your trash. Fear can be mitigated by doing whatever you can where ever you are.
It's better to go extinct than give up living. Glad I'm American I can't imagine being scared of weather!
What I miss in these discussions is the topic of advertising. All the absolutely necessary mindshifts towards cutting back, contraction, sufficiency etc. are counteracted by a perfidious and pervasive psychological industry that is trying to maximise brainless consumerism at any cost. To start with we need a heavy taxation for all sorts of commercial advertising.
1:21:27 Well said
These things are supposed to happen in our day and its not gonna happen when they say it will. No expert knows when it will happen
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If you are concerned about the changing weather patterns showing up now, what will the weather be like once the world starts to stabilise carbon emissions. The earth system has a huge thermal inertia.
Hi If anyone is wondering how discuss these iussues with children please join the facebook group XR education where we are developing resources for teachers that can also be used by parents. and have reading lists and ideas for games that you can play to introduce topics. Yes to modelling colaberative behaviour and building comunities to prepare out children as best as possible. XR are actively campaigning to get the national curriculum changed to relfect what is needed in the coming world. Loving the explanation of difference beween transfomative and deep adaptation.
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In whatever we do let us abide in joy while continuing the "inner" work of awareness in simply being. Awareness has no distinction, it is non-conceptual, it is silent uncreated wisdom, here the reality of limitless joy. Essence is not finite. Our "outer" lives have no lasting value. They mean very little. Let's just do our best to do no harm. In my experience grieving opens the door way to acceptance and peace.
And one more thing, as the light of truth shines in our life the concepts of "inner" and "outer" disappear.
All the best and good luck.
...and the band played on...
An excellent discussion, but I was very disappointed in Dr Read talking nonsense about the fire risk of spent fuel pools in civilisational collapse. It's impossible for fuel rods to catch fire after they've been in the pool for a few months. It's pretty hard to imagine circumstances in the UK where this would be a real risk of fuel having been just removed and somehow all the water getting removed from the pool, and it not being possible to top it up for a few months. Nuclear power is low-carbon, and an important part of our decarbonisation effort. Using artifical fear of ridiculously low risks to prematurely shut it down is not helpful. Even Greens should at least discuss this stuff on the basis of real science - i.e. they should 'tell the truth'. Read should know better IMHO. ansnuclearcafe.org/2014/06/10/spent-fuel-pool-fire-risk-goes-to-zero-a-few-months-after-reactor-shutdown/ I would love to join the Green Party, but every time I hear anti-science like this it pushes me away. Facts matter.
Who is going to top it up if society collapses. That is the point. "If there is a prolonged interruption of cooling due to emergency situations, the water in the spent fuel pools may boil off, possibly resulting in radioactive elements being released into the atmosphere." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_fuel_pool.
It usually helps to do a modicum of research before commenting. Whilst I already knew that spent fuel pools needed monitoring, I went ahead and found you a link. It took 3 minutes.
Also Fukushima. One big wave and an advanced, intact, high tech nation has more than it can handle.
Wartime measures, how what did they do we need to do that, focus.
desalination plants needed in every coastal area, regenerative farming& delete all chemicals.