The NBA Stole from Kareem
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
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Did the NBA steal from Kareem? This video examines the unfair treatment of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and how his record was overshadowed by LeBron James. A must-watch for all basketball enthusiasts!
0:00 Coming Soon
0:16 Video Beginning
0:54 Kareem Career Stats
3.06 NBA Rule Differences
3:52 Magic Johnson on Load Management
4:40 NBA Players say No One plays Defense
5:26 Kobe says NBA has become Soft
7:20 Charles Oakley says NBA Players like Children in Daycare
7:55 Charles Oakley explains why NBA went Soft
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Lebron James and Adam Silver is the new era of brokeback mountain. I have no respect for this people.
Stop watching & commenting about it then , just go away
Brokeback mountain?
Who has respect for these guy?
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Calm down, Salvador....
Back in the day, when someone scored or dunked against that brutal defense it was like a football team scoring a touchdown, you had a reason to be excited. Your favorite player actually had to overcome something, in a heroic way. Points dont mean the same now
Not to mention that players are allowed to carry, travel and breakdance with the ball so they appear to be "more skilled" than
players from the past.
so true, almost every dribble would have been called a carry over back in the 90's
@@shroomalistic It will be called today in Europe, where real basketball is played.
Well said
Indeed 💯
Players today have zero respect for the game
I started taking basketball seriously in 2021 but no cap I prefer old school basketball
Kareem doesn’t get mentioned as much as he should in the goat convo.
I love Kareem, and I agree with this. Despite this, I have to list the three reasons I think why he’s not mentioned as often as he should.
1. Despite Kareem’s individual dominance in the 70’s, he only would win one ring early in the decade. Kareem still had solid rosters for most of those years except his early Lakers seasons so it’s not like he had terrible teams each year. I think his legacy would be seen differently if he beat the Celtics in 1974.
2. This gets brought up quite a bit, but Kareem never winning without an all-time great PG. Personally, I think this is unfair and shouldn’t be used to discredit Kareem. Oscar was really good with Kareem, but he was old and no longer in his prime. Magic on the other hand, is harder to argue although I still think Kareem was the clear cut best player in the 1980 ring. It’s debatable after that until 1987 when the Lakers were clearly Magic’s team at that point.
3. Kareem playing more of a supporting role to Magic in 1987 and then to both Magic and Worthy in his final ring in 1988. Obviously, by this point he was really old and not as effective but compare this to Jordan who was clearly the best player in all 6 of his rings. Again, this is unfair to Kareem, but I see why this is looked at against him. Jordan would be looked at in a similar way to Kareem had this happened with him.
@@romanramirez7847I agree with with what you've said. Personally, I have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as my greatest basketball player ever because of his entire body of work. (HS record, his college stats, and his NBA stats overall). I also take into account the ban on dunking. I do consider MJ the greatest NBA player all-time. I will admit Kareem wasn't as effective his last couple of years as you stated, but that was due to the number of games played and the physicality back then. I'm stating all of this because I detest LeBron James and how he has played and manipulated the NBA for his benefit. Sitting out games "to rest" or to avoid the best teams, playing no defense, faking or lying about injuries, team stacking, and the flopping! Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did none to this. He repected the game and took pride in his job. Most of all he respected his audience. Hard working people who pay money to watch him perform. Again, LeBron James does not.
I agree. I personally still have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar second all-time on my NBA list only Michael Jordan is ahead of him for me. LeBron James is low in my Top 10 because his stats are misleading due to the era he is in along with him cheating the game. Thanks to him and how the league officiates, the NBA is ruined.
@@romanramirez7847You forgot basketball is a team sport I don't get where y'all think teams win championships with one player
@@pureblack3363 I know that. But I’m just listing off reasons WHY people think Kareem’s not the G.O.A.T. Has nothing to do with my own opinion on the matter.
Lebalco james was allowed by the NBA to cheat Kareem out of his all time scoring record. Pitiful
You need therapy ASAP Son....you shouldn't be this obsessed with hatin on another grown man that you don't know
@@brownpapi2634why don’t you go roll around on the floor like your idol LeFlop. Fans are allowed to have a voice, genius. It ain’t “hating” just cuz you don’t like the truth that your boy and this era are soft like room temp butter. Foh
@@brownpapi2634he not hating you in denial that your man crush on that Balco juice his longevity not real not natural he on that Lance Armstrong Barry bonds juice 💉
😭😭😭 LeBalco
Bruh yall are some certified weirdos....🤦🏿♂️
Couldn't agree more... this league is garbage now...
Yup. The league got better every year up until the glorious 80s and 90s. The NBA wishes it could be as great as it was with his Anus Michael Jorbum. Who gives af old head. The NBA nowadays is better now.
I'm sure he knows real fans know what's up. No point in causing drama at his age. Just nod, congratulate the flop king and let the cards fall where they may. Klutch sports can try their hardest to discredit previous eras but in the long run it's not going to work. More young players will start looking for advantages, take example from the past and players like Jokic to realize the social media obsession is bad for their game and it will slowly shift back. It's just not sustainable. The NBA is bleeding money and more reliant on sponsors than ever. All it'll take is a couple more scandels and drops in viewership.
It's going to take a long time for the general theme to get close to even Kobe's era, let alone the 90's, but I have faith it'll get back on track one way or another.
NBA All Star game. 211pts ?? Sad.....enough said....
Stats are meaningless because of the rule changes
Yep. The books are sadly ruined forever
I look at ranking in the league. Elgin Baylor averaged 19.8 rebounds per game one year but he was fourth in the league. 19.8 would be off the charts today but a small forward who is fourth in rebounds is very respectable. He also averaged twice the rebounds of his power forward.
Exactly 💯
Pretty much....I can't watch NBA anymore....
It’s like 2k u hate it but u love the game double entendre 😎
I stopped watching the NBA in 2009. It's flag football now?
Same...and same year I think...lol. But for me it was the regular season. I couldn't keep watching the nonsense...then when Harden started the whole new travel revolution...i couldn't even watch the playoffs anymore.
It's worse it's laser tag far too sissy for paintball or air SOFT these daus
The NBA is like the WWE now 😂
I stopped watching since Sacramento lost to Lakers in finals. Had hopes when Spurs played the game beautifully, till they all retired..
League is more focused on Sports Betting and Marketing campaigns ! It's all numbers now no GLORY !!
If he flopped around in the 90s he would be given something real to flop around for and get bodied every time he entered the paint
The way he drives to the paint now in the 90s would have em sore every game he would be missing multiple back-to-back to backs
Oh yeah, James Edwards and Laimbeer would have flopped his ass up in Detroit I'll tell you that.
@@RemoWilliams1227Bron Bron dunking on em both
I was upset when I saw LeBron PROUDLY taking the ball from Kareem when he broke the all-time scoring record. I am all but certain Kareem was more upset than I was but being the class act he is went through the ceremony regardless. LeBron has not only benefitted from how soft the game has been during his career, there are many signs he has taken PEDs for much of if not his entire career as well which would have allowed him to reach a higher peak as well as extend his career. If the PED accusations are true not only has he “cheated the game”, he also proudly STOLEN the record from Kareem - a record that I am sure Kareem was proud of and put in hard work to achieve.
Kareem & Jordan took PEDs as well then because there’s as much evidence that they did that you have seen on Lebron😂 also there was no testing & Mike played 82 games how many times? Steroids if we’re losing your logic & the fact that Jordan only averaged only 5 pts less at the same age 🤷🏾
Bro stop whining.
Yall have crazy level of fan fiction
@@Supreme36074 Jordan actually worked hard and was dedicated.. I seen him as a kid and he looked like a African Warrior from Shaka Zulu movie skin glowing and all the basketball is like a grapefruit in his hand.. JORDAN IS THE GOAT AND DEFINITELY CHANGE THE GAME.. HAD ALL THE KIDS WANTING TO BE LIKE MIKE
The NBA will implement the 4 point line to help the players to break Wilt's records .
People like to talk about how current great players of today could play well in past era's. I agree to some degree with this but I know one thing for sure. Lebron James would be laughed at and maybe even off the court if he brought his flopping game to past era's and past decades against the players then.
Tbh I think current players would be exposed in the past era. Players nowadays get away with traveling and carrying. If they brought their play into old school era, they’d get called every possession because they wasn’t gonna let them slide how they do today
@@suntansuperman26Stop this delusion. Guys like Oakley and Xavier McDaniel in today’s era would be absolutely terrible. Fake tough guys in their era anyway. Players like Giannis and Jokic would cook them. I know you’ll probably do a comeback on me, but these types of comment sections need to stop with this type of trolling.
@@romanramirez7847 It’s not delusion bro, it’s common knowledge that players today travel and not get called, just because they don’t get called for it that doesn’t mean their skill set are higher. They wouldn’t be able to get away in the 90’s what they are able to get away with now because the refs would blow that whistle
@@suntansuperman26 that's a good point. I've seen players today take 3 to 5 steps after picking up their dribble driving to the basket. Smh
@@jasonmardoniomeza1711 Not only that, that pivot foot moves like a mfer after they “plant” it
Kareem is the alternate 🐐. Literally the only non media fabricated acceptable alternative.
Kareem has a case for being the 🐐. He dominated every league he played in from high school to pro.
Remember that time the NBA had to slightly change the rules because Wilt was such a dominant force? The NBA did similar with Lebron. In season tournament, play in tournament, not calling travelling, not calling offensive pushoff fouls, no defense allowed. It changed rules to adjust to Lebron's dominance in being ass.
The NCAA banned the dunk because of Kareem. Think about that ish, that's bonkers. It'd be like banning the 3 pointer because of Curry. Wild.
For all Bronsexuels & MJ fanboys. Kareem is the GOAT
Kareem got the resume, but Wilt da real 🐐
agreed. i got 1.Wilt, 2.MJ, 3.Kareem, 4.Bird, 5.Magic, 6.Dr. J, 7.Duncan, 8.Kobe, 9.Hakeem, 10.Shaq
@elijahlei1110 a special shout out to Bill Russell!??
Nah. Wilt was the most outstanding physical athlete ever to be sure, but Kareem played in a more competitive era, was less drama than Wilt, and had better longevity than Wilt. Who's career would I rather have? Kareem's. Who do I pick if I'm building a team? Kareem.
@@JC23783 all good points, but I'm still picking wilt 🤷🏻♂️
@@elijahlei1110ur high off nostalgia. No way a guy with a total of 0 nba finals mvps is above lebron. Even combine his nba and aba achievements it doesn’t match up to bron. U are a fool.
It's a shame what the nba has become.
It all started with the early/mid 2010s.
LeFlop is only king of complaints.
It was Jordan that went to the commissioner crying like a baby and they put in the fragrant foul . That rule took the Center's out of the game .Now ISO ball ..Pistons destroyed Kobe and Shaq and the next year no hand check rule .In the 90s Rick Barry said why they didn't call Traveling and Carrying the ball anymore .They took the defense out of the game for Jordan and Kobe
@@gew2027 I see you live in fantasy land. Lol
Lebalco James career record should be removed bc of that balco juicing.. Adam silver definitely needs to be removed from the NBA asap... 😂... The NBA is finished it will never be good again...
NEVER SEEN ANYBODY BLOCK THE "SKYHOOK".........
No one but Wilt Chamberlain, who did it twice on the same possession...the real GOAT in my humble opinion...
As much as I can’t stand Lebron, it’s really Adam Silver’s product. This worm of a man has single handedly made the game unwatchable. The flopping, the matador defense, the 30’ 3s as a standard shot and position-less basketball. It’s a complete crap!
All they have to do is make the 3 point line only worth 2.5 points.
Lebalco cheating in more ways than one
Excellent discussion
I hate it when they say "oh, there's a lot more skill today". Man, in a game with no defense, anyone could parade to the basket and make himself look skilful.
All the changes they were made to make the league so soft Were to protect michael jordan. The league sabotaged kobe bryant Career to protect MJs 86 chris paul trade. And what does all this have to do with lebron The NFL softened for Brady And nobody says anything Steve Young and Joe Montana didn't play in the same soft NFL So is Joe Montana Is better than Brady.
lol do you know the circumstances of the CP3 trade? Stern was the New Orleans owner at the time. He was the one who blocked it….how does it have to do with Jordan? Even if the trade goes down, it might not have even saved the Lakers. Kobe tore his Achilles the following season. Be real. No one was sabotaged.
@@rackball5858I’ve always been surprised by how certain people seem to be about the Lakers winning a ring had the trade gone through. They would have still probably have been a great team, but this is still Chris Paul we’re talking about here. Despite all the excuses he gets, he still was never able to win a ring even with other great and solid teammates like Blake Griffin, James Harden, Devin Booker, DeAndre Jordan, David West, Peja Stojakovic and Tyson Chandler so I don’t know if he would have been able to pull it off with Kobe due to his many shortcomings.
Facts bruh Kareem should say something about this
No no hate just curious were there not like only 12 teams back then??and only.like 8 players above 7 feet?????
Kareem basically played for the entirety of the '70s and '80s. Average player height was slightly lower in the early '70s than it is now, but for much of the '80s, it was actually higher than the 2020s and much of the 2010s. Centers specifically were averaging 6 ft 10 in the early '70s, but steadily increased, and were averaging over 6 ft 11 for all of the '80s. The entire back half of the '80s, the average center height was over 6ft 11.6, peaking at 6 ft, 11.8.
Notably, NBA centers haven't averaged over 6 ft 11 since 2007. So Kareem spent most of his career playing among taller centers on average than we've seen in the past 18-plus years.
As for amount of teams, there were 14 when Kareem joined the league, but that quickly expanded to 17 in his second season, and reached 22 by the mid-70s.
@@Rodanguirus thank you very much i heard that in that his time he was like 1out of 7 players at 7 feet
It's not just the NBA making the flashy plays, 3-point bombs, carrying/traveling/spinning. double-dribble, etc. mostly legal... This is true in all sports. You can't breathe on the QB anymore in football, nor can anyone get too near a receiver, pitchers don't have to hit in baseball... I'm a newbie to hockey, but I have heard that the rules in the NHL make play less physical/dangerous than it used to be.
Even symphony orchestras make most of their scratch with summer pops concerts and soundtrack recordings... Hell... there's going to be BREAKDANCING as an official event in the Paris Olympics!
What do these things all have in common? They are allowing the flashy stuff, angering purists, while trying to grab the attention of the casual onlooker's attentions.
It's all about competition to get the casual and/or non-fans to watch.
I doubt this will change, ever.
Chamberlain's 1961-62 season stat line: 4,029 points (50.4 ppg) and 2,052 rebounds (25.7 rpg).
I think the game has just gotten easier and easier since the 60s - from a diluted league, to softer rules, to bias for players like LBJ, MJ, Shaq, less ambition, less passion.
The commissioner should resign..period
Load management is destroying the sport and product: THE NBA 75 was so awesome because guys got to reminisce about trying to really go at each other..
What’s sad is that in the TOP 100 Countdown… those players are going to
Be talking about how so and so didn’t want smoke or wish they played… this trash generation is the one with most regret
People that have seen the evolution of the NBA know the REAL. Those of us that have seen the league since the early 70’s will agree Kareem and arguably Wilt are the greatest to ever play the game. People that grew up or became fans of MJ during his era will say he is the greatest, as similarly those in LeBron’s era will say he is. But the downfall of the league actually began with the Jordan era and ESPN. People only wanted to see highlights and MJ was on every night. Then refs began to blow the whistle in MJ’s favor along with other “key” players getting favorable calls. When Boston and Detroit aged out, and MJ was King, you couldn’t breath on him without getting a foul. Till eventually you get to where you are now as “key” players felt they deserved certain calls they started flopping to accentuate the foul to draw the whistle. And above all, the league softening the rules to allow traveling, carrying, no offensive fouls, etc to get more scoring and highlights.
I agree 100%...Wilt Chamberlain reminded MJ that "they changed the rules to make it easier for you, but changed them to make it harder for me"...As great as MJ already was, he got so much help from the league to create the GOAT narrative....Whereas, as great as Wilt was, the narrative seems to lean toward the negative side...If we look at Shaq and how the officiating allowed him to just bulldoze through his man, drop his shoulder and move the defensive player off his position,.That was a foul ALL DAY long in Wilt and Kareem's day. The officiating was in his favor. Today, players benefit so much from manufactured success and narratives its beginning to be comical.
Kareem is too nice of a guy to speak up on this matter. Plus he might not care about who's the goat and that kind of stuff.
Load management is hurting the NBA
I don't understand WHY people can't see this is being done deliberately; they are purposely setting these guys up for failure, and people will be surprised when the elite players of the NBA eventually lose in the Olympics. People will FOOLISHLY say that the rest of the basketball world "caught up ". A DAMN shame...
Kareem was 22 when he joined the NBA. Not 18 or 19 like so many players are when they get into the league. The rules back then didn't allow for college players to enter the NBA early. So Jabbar was a 4 year college student. Like I always say. You got to give Kareem his props. He made over 38,000 points and was the all time points leader for 39 years until LeBron caught him. Which is really impressive since Kareem was a 4 year college student and not a 3 point shooter. LeBron was able to enter the league early. He was 18 when he first played in the NBA. If, and I do say if, Kareem could of entered the league early. Say 19 y/o. It's very likely he would of put up a final points total that nobody, not even LeBron would of caught.
4:50 Didn't realize Kyrie said this, not surprised I guess he's odd but smart.
Well done.
The NBA; Non-competitive Basketball Association.
Just this past week, the Lakers beat the Pacers 150 to 145. I didn't watch it but I thought that it must have been a tight game that went to overtime 3 times because of the high scoring total; it didn't. I wondered how it was that a tight game, according to the scoreline, with such a high scoring total didn't even get into overtime once? The integrity of NBA basketball is gone.
LeFlop ain’t shit
Ain't f$#kin shit - signed: every nba fan born before 2000.
The league is so soft that Marcus Morris was fined for calling another player a "bitch" and was forced to apologize publicly.
Jfc they would have arrested Bird or Payton then, or MJ.
I do agreed what SAS said about this NBA era being soft as tissie
There was no DPOY when he was dominating on defense in the 70's
Always wish it could have existed before 1983. A lot of great and underrated defenders like Kareem, Walt Frazier, Nate Thurmond, Jerry Sloan, Norm Van Lier, Bobby Jones, Dennis Johnson, Micheal Ray Richardson and of course Bill Russell would have likely nabbed a ton.
Well said.
increase the 3p line to an extra 3 feet
Kareem's highlights used in this video could have easily been and-one's today.
Great documentary! All factzzzzz!!! Today's NBA is soft as charmin.😂 Not fun to watch.
well, back in the 80s & 60s pace of play Plus your era of the 90s wasn’t that tough back in the 1920s there was a harder era called jail ball but you would’ve recognize it as basketball but that was basketball back in the day. That was a much tougher error score than any error ever has been but you will never bring up the 1920s.
THE GOAT CONVERSATION IN MY OPINION BEGINS .. AND ENDS WITH BILL RUSSELL .. WILT CHAMBERLAIN .. AND KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR ..
Kareem was double and triple teamed when he scored. He is the greatest unique player!
It’s all entertainment. The NBA needs to continue generating money. Protect the players and hype up the next Jordan. It’s also fixed.
soccer is international and they evaluate the value of goals. For example, a goal in the Austrian league has a lower value than in Spain, because the difficulty level of scoring a goal in the Spanish league is more difficult... I think they should do something like an inflation guide every era
Preach brother, Preach!!!!!
Early 2000s was the most competitive and most physical
70s and 80s much better.
Micheals finals r spoiling me just getting around to watching them I don't think I can watch today's game anymore
Very true, I have not watched a full game in a long time.
Man, thank you for this video. It's sad of what we are seeing. This is what lebron wanted and Silverman is giving it to him, it's all about the starts for social media.😢
That statement about the European players is incorrect. In Europe they play a much more physical style than the nba does.
They stole the game away from us as well narrative driven.
They had to attend university 4 years is a big jump
Kareem is one of these best players to ever pick up a basketball. When you add in his 2 HS national championships, 3 NCAA titles and all the other individual awards and stats that come with being the best player in those leagues. I personally only think that Wilt and MJ have equal resumes. I like Lebron , but honestly I don’t think he is the best SF ever, much less the GOAT.
Wait wasn’t it Vlade Divac that invented the flop??? Hmmmmm
YMCA ball, Mr silver, brig back old rules call traveling then let's see there stats.
NBA made it boring
Today’s players are not more skilled. There no defense therefore no real skill required. Skill is required when you can’t see daylight between the ball handler and the guy covering but the ball handler shakes him
I agree with most of this video says except for the argument about the league making the game less physical to appeal to foreign countries. The notion that foreign players are less physical and softer than American players is an stereotype proven wrong a long time ago. If you watch Euroleague games today you’ll see a more intense, competitive, and physical style of playing than the present NBA. Maybe players in Europe and other countries aren’t as talented or “skilled” as NBA players. But because most players over there don’t eran millions of dollars and every game counts, the level of effort is higher. You have in the NBA role and bench players earning millions. They are basically financially secured, which is good for them. The point is, many of NBA don’t feel the need that players in the past felt. In the past you have players that fought for every second of playing because they knew their spot wasn’t secure. They had passion, not just for the game itself, but because their job was at stake every game. You see that kind of determination in Europe and other countries. The NBA became less physical and competitive, but not to be global, but because today players are more celebrity influencers than professional athletes. If right now the NBA play with the FIBA rules and the referees do their damn job of calling games efficiently, you will see an increment of competitiveness in the games.
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I disagree that the NBA has become more like pickup, our pickup games are way more physical and aggressive than this shit lol. And if you flop you may never get the respect you lose back.
this era so weak i really don't even watch regular season games anymore. i tune in for playoffs but that's about it, all these ridiculous scoring records should be thrown out. some of these youngsters coming in look like they may take it back tho
But all the ridiculously high scoring games from the 60s-70s are fine? The points per game between 1960-79 had numerous seasons that where higher than anything we are seeing now. Basically always between 110-120 ppg, now it just recently peaked around 115 ppg the past couple years but before that was more like 100-105 from like 08-18. The only reason scoring is higher is because guys are better at shooting 3s and teams now running plays specifically around getting 3s or close shots. The offenses are analytically, objectively the most efficient we have ever seen because they guys shoot more 3s, more layups/close shots and way less elbow/midrange shots and they are hitting their FTs at record high %s.
Why with the background music on bball channels? Another unwatchable video.
Kobe was the last. After him, the league died. LeBron is a paper champ.
Kobe was the last what
If Kareem had skipped college like Lebron he would have a billion points
Today they flop like soccer players. At the local park you would have got laughed off the court and never picked up again if you flopped and cried. I check out years ago. Heck all the carrying, double dribbling and traveling.. ugh..
Kareem had no 3 pointers either so anybody can break 100 and scoring😂😂😂😂
Lebron should be banned indefinitely from the NBA for ruining the league. He should have been a good role model for both players and fans due to his immense skills and talents but he broke everything what made the NBA competitive and dear to the fans.
I personally will not watch an NBA game even getting a free pass I will not go! I'd rather watch a playground pick up game or watch a European league game if I knew where and how to tune in? The NBA needs to make demands on this new breed of "players"! Start by enforcement of rules, go back and allow hand checking and play defense which is lacking! I've seen enough games to know when players are coasting and not playing 100%. I've heard statements that players from the past couldn't play today😂! Sh#t!!! They Detroit Badboys would make today's player their "Bit#$*s!
Is it lebron fault they changed the rules?
Exactly 100%
Dont matter what they do he is the goat.. people say Shaq dominate well this dude doninate HIGH SCHOOL COLLEGE AND NBA.. NOBODY DID IT BETTER THAN KAREEM.. LEBRON IS A BOY TO THIS MAN HONESTLY
Wilt got robbed too .
Kareem never shot threes
LeBron passé up Kareem in less Games. I don’t really believe in a goat in team sports but if I had to make one it would LeBron 1. Kareem 2. It only makes sense if you judge players as individuals.
I consider Kareem to be a legit GOAT candidate. His skills and accolades alone warrant him to be in the GOAT conversation. In my estimation, when factoring in a person's entire basketball career from high school to the NBA, Kareem is the greatest basketball player ever. He is again, IMO, the only player who has a case for GOAT at all three levels of organized basketball. He is arguably the greatest high school basketball player of all time. He is easily the greatest college player of all time. He is arguably the greatest NBA player of all time.
With all of that being said, people kill me with all of this "Oh the previous eras were so tough" nonsense. And I say this is a 47-year-old who started watching the NBA near the end of Kareem's career in 1987. So I'm not one of these young kids who never watched basketball pre- LeBron. I also have a genuine respect for the history of the league. As such, after studying Bill Russell's career heavily several years ago, I consider him to be another GOAT candidate.
But back to my point. Was the game more physical in previous eras? Yes. No doubt. But that alone does not equate to the league being more difficult to score in. Also, contrary to the creator of this video's perspective, Kareem's peak, which was during the 70s, is often viewed as the weakest overall era in NBA history due to the presence of the ABA. By 1973 the talent pool in the NBA was diluted considering several great NBA caliber star players were not even playing in the league. They were in the ABA. I will admit though that the center / big man pool in the NBA during the 70s was deep.
But also, Kareem played in an era where despite being more physical, the league scoring averages and pace were higher than anything LeBron ever played in prior to 2017.
When Kareem entered the league in 1969-70, the NBA was averaging a blistering 116.9 ppg. Where is the defense in that? When he retired in 1989 the league's average was 109.2 ppg. The lowest league scoring average during any season of his career was 102 ppg in 1975. While the Showtime Lakers typically ran a relatively balanced scoring offense, it is worth noting that their fast break centered style of play made them one of the highest scoring teams in the entire league during the 80s.
Conversely, when LeBron entered the league in 2003-04, the NBA was only averaging 93.4ppg. That's 9 ppg less than Kareem's lowest league average. It didn't reach 100ppg until 2009. Then scoring dropped back down below 100ppg in 2011 for the next three seasons. The league did not reach 102 ppg, which again was the lowest of the Kareem era, until 2016. And LeBron has never played in a league where the scoring average was as high as it was during Kareem's rookie season of 1970 where the league again, averaged over 116 ppg.
The numbers show that playing in a more physical era does not equate to being harder to score, especially when they were scoring more points during the more physical era.
LeBron's all-time scoring record is well earned just as Kareem's was despite Kareem playing in a more offensive centered league that allowed more ppg.
It was the most physical, less skilled era …
It actually takes much more skills to dribble the ball without traveling and carrying unlike today's game, everyone who learned to play basketball in the 80s 90s or in any era in Europe knows that.
The way we look at players has changed the goat debate.
Prime example Wilt Chamberlain. In the 90s the conversation was Jordan or Wilt.
After Jordan kept winning the narrative changed to championships.
If this is the case James shouldn't be compared to Mj it should be Mj vs Kareem.
Then it’d be Russell
@Supreme36074 and that's a fair argument. Problem is it's a team game and Russell had a stacked team and what the league had like 8 teams or whatever.
Jordan was the goat at 2 championships yet alone 6 in my eyes.
If we talk pure skill It's Jordan, body of work Jordan. But LeBron has a good case too just the eye test really favours Jordan imo.
I don't like that championships has really overlooked some players in Barkley who was incredible.
I say this all the time
If anybody builds his body and has only 10-20% of Kobe’s or MJs mentality he would easily be considered as the GOAT in this era. There is no KILLER. All I see are babyfaced so called assassins. I hate Steph’s shooting play. If this is how we play defense at least drop the 3pt rule. Only 2pt. I mean look at the games it’s just getting worse and I agree its unwatchable. I don’t know but if I was even a bit talented I would skip college. Back in the day it was a big deal when Highschool players came into the league because it was a league of grown men. Now every talented Highschool prospect could become a decent player in 1-2 years. Why should an 18 yr old fear anyone anymore if he gets all the calls. I mean no disrespect to wemby but this dude is razor thin let alone Chet. Jokic couldn’t do anything like that in the 2000s the only player I still like to watch is Giannis. If he just had a killer mentality all these players are so nice. I mean you can be respectful but being nice softened the league even more. They hug each other like the game wasn’t even important. I hate this generation of athletes in general you don’t see no one get upset. Yeah we know it’s just a game. But there are people out here who would die for this. And you guys play like this. Even the salaries. Some people get way to much money for sheet. I have nothing against securing the bag.. but the salaries should be way more based on performance. Not stats only. If we win 50+ games and you play more than 70 games you get this amount of money etc etc. Make people work for their money.
kareem is mostly known for the sky hook and winning. the all time scoring was just a cherry on top
5:02 facts lol first to 25 fr
NBA playing like WNBA 😂
Pop started load management for the Spurs and y’all didn’t have an issue with it.
You cheered when Kawhi and Embid did it. Even said doing it helped KL win a chip in Toronto.
When James does it y’all cry.
Illogical.
Also playing 82 games means literally nothing. Even from your picture you ignored Stockton and Malone doing it more than MJ.
So you only care to shade James but not show players who did it more than MJ. And the 3 years “retirement “ Jordan did aka ultimate load management.
and zero three pointers! Curry killed this game the 3 point line has to go no choice anymore