The Cowards Way: A Complete History of the Decision that Ruined The NBA
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
- There have been countless GREAT teams throughout NBA history. But NONE of them were built with cowardice and collusion until LeBron James decided to take his talents to South Beach. "The Cowards Way" is a comprehensive analysis of team building in NBA history and why LeBron's was the FIRST ever super team.
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The 2011 Finals was like a hollywood movie. Dirk showed Lebron the meaning of loyalty and perseverance.
Lebron has 4 rings, Dirk has 1.
Instant noodle culture is the king.
@@napoleong9418
Dirk's 1 ring is worth more than any of LeFraud's rings lmao.
2012 - lockout season
2013 - ray allen
2016 - kyrie irving
2020 - mickey mouse
Ok napoleon now do Lebron vs Tim. And Tim played one fewer season. 5>4.
@@Nix-qq5je why didn't Kyrie win the NBA finals MVP in 2016?
@@Nix-qq5je have you played football or combat sports during your life? Cause that take clearly shows signs of cte
LeBron created the superteam. Giannis and Jokic are killing it.
The 1983 Sixers were a Superteam when Moses Malone was added. You kids need to learn some history.
you know basketball existed before lebron right ? you gotta learn your history boy if you think lebron created this , sure he made it popular but that's what comes with the media era that we live in , they didn't have this coverage back then .
@@seif.boughanmi8956 Boy? Also, you didn't demonstrate me being wrong.
Bro really liked your comment🫡
Bro there has been superteams in the nba since the 70s lol.
Modern NBA sucks for many reasons.
There's a long list of NBA legends who either voluntarily left their team or were traded away by their team, such as Kareem, Barkley, Chamberlain, Drexler, Shaq, Walton, Oscar Robertson, Malone, Olajuwan, etc. And these moves came long before Lebron. Loyalty among NBA teams has always been a one-way street. Players can and should make decisions based on what they want.
@@commodoor6549no, actually. You’re completely incorrect
Lmao this loser must’ve lost a bet 😂
@@simppolice123 no, actually Teams trade and waive players under contract every year, but players must honor their contracts. But free agents that move on are called traitors, while teams that trade players are improving rosters to win rings.
Nowadays i barely watching Full NBA game, sometimes just watched it on Q4, there is no defences, no grit,players basically catwalk into the paint then finishes up with easy lay ups
2010s NBA was nail in the coffin for me. Didn't watch a single game that decade. Feel bad for the kids that think LeBron is even in the 🐐 conversation
4x nba champion, and he’ll always be the main attraction on the winning side against an unsuccessful team that went 73-9 that season 😌
@@isaiahgarcia5531he’s an all time great, but his rings are tainted. He got bailed out by Ray Allen, Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis.
@@AltezzaGang15bro you can’t do that 90%+ teams who win the championship has atleast one or two hof. + Didn’t Steve Kerr bail Jordan out?
@@GhostVothe bulls weren’t facing elimination
Only an ignorant person ,who just said he didn't watch lebron or basketball for a decade in the 2010s ,would make the stupid comment you just made 😅
It was awesome to watch Jokic and the Nuggets go 12-3 against 3 attempted superteams on the way to the championship with a totally organically built team
I understand the suns, but how are the lakers and heat superteams?
Basketball Thankfully is going back there roots. Enough of this Superteam bullshit.
@@barehands9614 my guess is they meant the timberwolves, suns and lakers. lakers have lbj and ad, which the video referred to as a superteam, the suns with book and kd (and aging cp3) superteam, and i guess the wolves with antman, kat and gobert?
@@barehands9614 It’s why I said attempted. Lakers, Suns and Wolves are all attempted superteams
@@laz0rama Ok take the heat out, I'm still failing to understand how the lakers are a superteam. Or is any team lebron on a superteam by default unless it is the cavs with complete scrubs.
Bron won in Beijing then felt entitled to win a championship and superteamed with his competition, killing parity. Bron is an opportunist not a competitor.
Carried by Kobe and Wade
Absolutely on point.
He couldn’t win gold without Kobe, and he couldn’t win a ring without a superteam.
LOL killing parity???? You really think the Bucks, Raptors, or Nuggets would have had a prayer or winning under the Stern era??
How did LeBron “kill” parity, when he faced 2 of the greatest championship franchises in the modern NBA era in San Antonio and Golden State? The latter whom added a 4th future HOF player in Kevin Durant to avoid LeBron steam rolling them in 2017 and 2018.
It really fked him up when kobe won back to back chips
This is why I always say, LeBron fans all of them 100% has no sense of competitiveness, doesn't know the meaning of what is competitive basketball is. I'm still not including, the gracefulness, footwork, beauty, fundamentals and real skills.
Lebron fun fact: he's been flanked by at least 2 other top 5 picks for every ring he's won. In Miami it was from his own draft class. What a cHAmPioN
Did you accidentally misspell “Chumpion”?
You're really counting Dwight Howard that late with the Lakers as a top 5 pick 😂😂 technically but he wasn't even close to his peak just say it was the bubble and I'm good but that's not the argument to make on that one lmao
You do realize you could say that about magic and bird as well lmaoo
@@zachjohnson98 how many different teams did Magic and Bird hop to? I'll wait...
@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour they didn't have to they had competent front offices and were already at signature franchises 🤦♂️🤦♂️ that's also not what you said nice try to change the narrative buddy.
That's what I really loved about the
2004 Detroit Pistons...... Not one superstar on the team.
Just a team of heart
One of the VERY, VERY rate teams of at least the last 40 years.
@@skap_attackwhere do u have lebron all time
Chauncey Billups played like a superstar
313 baby!
@@jeremiahgeorges my top 12 looks a little something like this:
1 Jordan
2 Kareem
3 Russell
4 Kobe
5 Magic
6 Duncan
7 Wilt
8 Lebron
9 Bird
10 Hakeem
11 Shaq
12 Curry
So 8th. And quite frankly I’m working on a Bird video. By the time I finish it I may move him above Lebron. He has to be top 10 due to his statistical accumulations. But I’ve seen too much and I know too much about the context of how he acquired his rings. He’ll never be top 5. Sorry that’s for winners only.
LeGoat stans try to justify Rodman on the Bulls as a superteam when Westbrook was a former League MVP and younger than Rodman while on the Lakers 😂
Also they've never seen him play. As a kid I used to laugh every time Rodman had the ball. He was goofy. Great hustle though.
Rodman's modern day equivalent is Patrick Beverly. Imagine justifying a team as a super team because of Patrick Beverly lol
I believe the Bulls were like 38-9 without Rodman during those 3 years. A projected 66-win season. They didn't NEED Rodman, they were better with Horace Grant
They would of been LETHAL if they kept Grant💎
@@cuttycain1334 Jordan, Pippen, Grant, Kukoc, and Harper as starters
That's a great line up for the small ball of today's NBA...maybe throw Kerr in there for Harper, although I like the size of the backcourt and defense
@@marts01only Beverly couldn’t get you 20 rebounds a night and can’t guard 3 different positions.
This is the best video I've seen, in a long time. I've been trying to explain the difference between great, and super teams to the point of exhaustion, and younger guys are baffled and confused. Finally, an accurate, factual assessment. Thank you, so much!!
Skap Attack does do the BEST videos...by far. He is so funny and witty too. He pinpoints proof that disproves all the false narrative news and bullshit views.
Agreed. Very well put together.
This was your magnum opus! An impeccably researched and undisputed truths makes this one of, if not the best video you've ever produced!!
One of the things my buddy and I constantly talk about is players who managed to win rings with the teams that drafted them and LeBron clearly falls out of that category in spades. Many credit him with being the only player to win 3 chips with 3 different teams but that's not the flex they think it is because each time LeBron moved around it was with yet another collection of stars in their prime.
For the record, LeBron is one of the greatest to ever play the game but he'll never, EVER be the GOAT and once you begin to contextualize his career, as this video does so brilliantly and beautifully, the cracks begin to surface.
His multifaceted unsportsmanlike behaviours speak aloud that he is incapable of being GOAT
He lacks goat mentality. He likes easy team. He loves cheating.
Many thanks for the high marks 🙏 and I of course agree with you. You cannot deny lebrons statistical achievements or his unparalleled durability/longevity. HOWEVER when you look at the degree of difficulty other all time greats won more while facing, he falls shy of the GREATEST of the greats. That’s been my entire point on Lebron. Sure I go over the top with my criticisms and am likely harsher than I should be. BUT, he and his team of publicists and mass media team can handle the effusive over the top praise in the other direction. I’m just trying to balance it off 😉
100%
He's not even close to being one of the greatest to play the game. Not even in the top 50 in my opinion. And I don't think he would win more than 1 ring without building a super team. His true character is the man you see flopping on the floor for minimal to no contract at all. Whining and crying for fouls like a child. Shutting down and absolutely quitting on his team mid playoff run. When he quit on the Cavs and stopped playing all together in his first stint, I think he realized he wasn't as good as everybody told him he was. That's why he quit. That's why he left. He's not a killer. He's not a shark. He's weak minded. Show me an all-time great with a weak mindset, with a quitting attitude. I'll wait. He only plays well when he's around an all-star cast. When his team depends on him, he folds, every time. There's a YT video called Mj Vs Lebron goat debate on DANGERProductions channel. It's well worth the watch. He has longevity and super teams, but there's nothing really super about him.
@@skap_attack LeBron's big weakness was as a general manager. He meddled too much with personnel, particularly with the Cavs and Lakers. MJ, for instance, had the benefit of Jerry Krause obtaining players like Scottie Pippen, Ho Grant, Dennis Rodman, Bill Cartwright, and shooters for the triangle. Bird had Red. Magic had Jerry West. Splash Brothers had West and Steve Kerr. Other greats had better teams - and mainly it was LeBron's own fault. You are dead wrong about the players right to protest. There are countless incidents of black college athletes being hassled by police. I have identified myself as a licensed attorney and have been hassled over nothing. I shudder to think what it would have been like if I had been black. Like HOF second baseman Joe Morgan having his head slammed into the floor at LAX. Do the protests hurt the NBA? Yes, with embittered white people. Does LeBron's vulgar behavior hurt? His lack of sound judgment and taste have eroded his standing in history. Nonetheless, playing the race card to garner subcriptions is classless.
I always tell people that Cavs team was a Super Team, but they seem to forget K Love was a perennial All Star and putting up major numbers Pre Cavaliers. You can't have three ball dominate players on the court and not expect one or two of them to take a backseat.
Not only was he a perennial all-star, but dude was averaging 26pts and 13rebounds before he came to Cleveland.
Lebum fans like to forget his epic failures and only his wins people he is 4 and 6 in the finals on the biggest stage he is a loser people 4 and 6 and of course you lebum fans will make every excuse for him just stop
Exactly! It's the same situation with Bosh who averaged 24 and 10 the season prior. People see the decline in their numbers and assume they weren't great before having to share the ball with 2 more HOFers
Larry Hughes and Antwan Jamison. Lebron has had more help than any player of all time. Just look at his teams vs Jordans.. man begged for all stars year after year when he left Cleveland cause he couldn't beat Boston old ass team..
LecChoke fanboys say It wasnt a superteam kuz a SuperTeam has to have 2 - Top 10 players on it… Kevin Love was a top 10 player when he arrived in Cleveland 🤣🤣🤣 if not injured in 2012 he woulda been Top 10 3 years in a row
"You get a superteam! You get a superteam!" That Oprah clip had me rolling 🤣
😂😂😂😉
For so long I couldn't put my finger on why LeBron rubs me the wrong way... You have articulated this perfectly dude, truly incredible analysis🙏
Leflop rubbed me wrong with his self proclaimed goat comments….
Thank you for making this. This should be a lesson for the NBA, team ownership/management, it's current roster, and future generations not to follow in LeBron's footsteps.
Stupid 😊
Lebron won a championship for every team he has played for. Why would an NBA team not want someone like him to be a part of their success?
if lebron had the greatest GM in history that could build a team around him, he would have more rings than mj
@@avashmaharjan3460but he don’t he has 3 and half if you count the Disney
@@Toast2222 if any other team won in the bubble it would have been a great win but ppl love to hate on lebron lol
Side note, it was 2006 when wade and lebron told melo to sign shorter 2nd nba contract so they’d all be free agents together in the sum of 2010. Melo signed longer deal with the nuggets which is why Bosh got the call. So in the summer of 2006 lebron was already planning to team up with stars down the road. 2006 was lebron’s first year making the playoffs. The heat won the title that year. Yet lebron was already planning to team up. So it wasn’t losing to the spurs in 07 or the Celtics in 08. He already had that planned out. It also destroys the narrative that the cavs wouldn’t get him help. He had 4 years to convince wade and Bosh to come to Cleveland. He couldn’t. I mean who’s picking Cleveland over a city like Miami. This is why the media never likes to tell this side of the story. If people realize that whole decision thing was fake and he already made up his mind in 2006, that would destroy the narrative
Thank you for this
Oh really thanks for the info brotha.
i don't think it destroys the narrative, which is that lebron wanted to form a super team because he couldn't get over the hump without one. when exactly he made that decision seems far less relevant that the fact he made that decision at all.
Either way what he did was corny😂😂
The shenanigans of lestackthedamdeck is mind boggling
Lets not forget LeBum attempted an old-star superteam with Carmelo, Dwight, Rondo, Davis, and Westbrook. He tried to squueeze out whatever talent they had left for one year to get a fast ring and they failed miserably.
hahahaha leBUM hahahahahahahaha i see what you did there XD lol hilarious
@@lukebarreto2597 Le....Leeee...LeBum ☺️
Lebroom 😂😂😂😂 but seriously, this delusional fans would say "Lebron will give them rings, Lebron would make them better" like whut, they are former all stars, they were better before and they are veterans already
@@lorenzjohnjago3784
Not just that.... How tf did Lebron make Love n Bosh better? Having them reduced to sit-in-the-corner for 3s like James Jones & Donyell Marshall? Smh
@@ericperry27 They both got rings out of the deal didn't they?
Couldn’t agree more! Ive been telling people this and people don’t seem to understand the negative impacts this had on the league and why most older and traditional fans don’t respect lebron or curry or Durant like that.
People really go too hard at curry and KD. Let's be honest, if the NBA didn't rig that 2016 series for LeBrons SUPERTEAM, KD never joins the warriors. The warriors got KD as a fuck you to the entire league and front office for rigging the series, so they said, try and rig it against us now, and refs tried, but only had success 1 time during the entire rivalry with KD, and that's when they gave the cavs 20 something first quarter free throws. That's the only time LeBron beat the KD led warriors. Compared to James harden and cp3 who took that team to 7 games and probably could have won if they stopped shooting 3s, but LeBron fans tell us that warriors team was unstoppable 😂 now are they top 10 or 20, no, but the NBA ruined the warriors 73-9 and back to back because they refused to let LeBron drop to 2-5 in the finals
I’ve watched this video like 20 times already. 😂 MJ laughing always gets me. Always thought Wade & Lebron was weak for teaming up. My hometown Mavs embarrassed “The King” 🤦🏽♂️
The Queen*
@@lukesmith9692 ...exactly.
That Mav team was no "super team" either. Lunch pale, and class.
I Respect your opinion. My only question in response is, how did you feel about KD going to the Warriors? I would ask the same about other players, however this one player would is adequate. Peace.
LeBron was eliminated from the 🐐 conversation when he got outplayed by a 5’9 JJ Barea
LeBron has gone his entire adult life on the philosophy that he can buy or bully his way to a ring. He will NEVER be held in the same regard as Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan.
Lebron created 3 dynasties
😂 LeBron won championships everywhere he went. Name another superstar who did THAT… exactly. You can’t 😂
@@leeronald3645Dynaties of what? Floppin and shit?
@@kayamerrick3907Him winning those doesn't take a way the fact that LeBron choked. No going back from that shit.
@@kayamerrick3907 you seem to miss the point of the video. he did it ONLY if he had other great players helping him. and he needed 10 finals to win 4 championships. he's the goat like santa's really bringing you presets
robert parrish was TRADED to the celtics from the gs warriors ---he was not a free agent... the celtics traded two picks for parrish and a first round pick and with THAT pick they chose kevin mchale i.e. this is how great teams are SUPPOSED to be made
that was Mchales rookie season and Birds 2nd season'. Kevin McHale was not even a starter then
So you’re saying it isn’t Lebron’s fault he left Cleveland the first time, but the organization’s fault for not getting any quality talent on the team? Good to know 👍
@@Wargee4978 what difference does it make who was a starter? the issue is that this was NOT free agent superteam
and i SAID it mchales rookie season; can you not READ??? i said they used the pick to choose mchale
@@pv25 where did you see that in my comment ??
i'm saying the video is mistaken when when he says that robert parrish was a free agent...
cleve won 66 games in 2009 and lebron STILL couldnt get it done in the playoffs ---he failed even with A GREAT TEAM (66-16 reg season record)
just as he did in 2011 with the heat when ave 27pts during the season but ONLY 17pts in the final against a VASTLY inferior dallas team as he choked away the championship DESPITE having formed the first ever freeagent superteam ---scored just 8 pts in game 4 ...smh
@@pv25 He cant be dumb to use that excuse now. Lebron James had killed that excuse when he left a great team like Miami when Wade and Bosh were struggling due to injury and when he left Cleveland again when the Cavaliar spoilt him with beginning of the season and mid season change of rooster. Till date, there is no superstar in the history of basketball that his roster is been changed in mid season due to bad performance. Those superstar have to make it work but not by trade. Eg Jordan in 1998, Magic in 1991, etc
I predicted the era of superteams when LeBron announced it. I knew my beloved league was over until farther notice. I was shocked to see how so many people refused to see it because of their love for Lebron smh!!!
I'm happy to see new CBA rules with this contracts helping players to remain with their teams.
The only thing left for the League to do is to bring back defense and try to eliminate all of these three's!!!!
I’m with you. The NBAs scoring trends and lack of defense are completely out of control. And the rate players ripping threes from 5 feet behind the three point line with 17 seconds left on the shot clock is alarming.
Lebron literally only joined the heat because the celtics built superteam to beat him. This whole video is silly. The game was still competitive too, the heat only won 2 out of 4 and there were plenty of game 7's. The nba wasn't ruined.
There used to be a salary cap that made sure superstars unable to join together. But of course that was unfair to other players who weren’t making the money they deserved.
However, they should have placed an alternative precaution to make sure the league stays balanced.
LeBron was able to make 10 finals by making sure he was on the team with the most talent in the conference every year. Whether it's joining up with Kyrie, Love, Wade, Bosh or Davis, LeBron has taken every short cut to the top available. Including playing Hookie from college, yet still somehow still being skipped up to Jabbar's level who's got 3 NCAA titles, 6 NBA titles and 6 NBA MVPs.
Not on Jabbars level just based on the stats you stated at the end
LOL being good enough to skip college is a negative now? You clowns will say anything.
@@Gixsir
Kareem had three go to moves, was a defensive player of the year, lead the league in scoring, rebounds and blocks the same year and in his MVP season with the bucks and Lakers
You're right
That same Bosh/Wade team missed playoffs soon as LeBron left.
Kyrie and Love both never made playoffs before comin with LeBron.
@@palmpalm5663 Bosh and Wade were passed their prime and injured by the time LeBron left. He wouldn't have joined them if they were washed-up before hand correct? Love was coming off avg 26 and 12 in Minn, so every team in the league was bidding for his services. LeBron knew those teams would be a lock for the finals is why he joined them in the 1st place. He's a "Ring-Chaser".
Its nice to see REAL NBA FANS STILL EXISTS! Excellent breakdown Sir!!
Real fans should appreciate LeBron. He made NBA easier to watch.
@@leeronald3645thank you, someone gets it. Real NBA fans don’t rip others
That clip of Kobe with his arms raised to the fans choked me up
Rip The Black Mamba
@@leeronald3645bahajaja bromsexual in thw house 😂😂😂
@@ronm3945 ur a clown... forever I hope you change your ways
You are the GOAT of CZcams basketball videos! So well said. Everything you mentioned, and thoroughly researched is SUPERB.
My man! Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it 🙏❤️. And many thanks for watching my stuff. I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel!
@@skap_attack Really impressive word play and priceless execution! * I returned to watch this again, and I was intermittently multi-tasking while relishing in the witticism while attentively listening... then at @0:57-1:26 I glanced away from the screen to do something and BURST OUT LAUGHING at what you said LeBron did to the NBA. It was funny the first time I watched this video, month ago, but when actually just listening to what you said he did at that "faithful moment" in time, was even FUNNIER! Fully gut laughing, tensing abs in laugher! 🤣😅🔥
Bro I agree wholeheartedly. These new dudes are from another planet. What kills me is how they disrespect the game before them, and play with little to no post work, and everyone thinks they are Curry. 🤨
It all started in 2010 with "The Decision." That was the beginning of the decline of the NBA. The NBA today, so many demand to be traded to play with other stars and they hop from one team to another. LeBron started that trend.
The trend seems to be swinging back if you look at the past 3 championships. The Bucks, Warriors, and Nuggets all won on the backs of mostly homegrown talent. All their top guys were either self-drafted and/or spent many seasons on the team developing before they won.
@@wuhanclan TRUE. Those are definitely the exceptions and I was rooting for the Nuggets all the way when LeMedia were trashing them and attacking Jokic.
It destroys team’s chemistry
Just to be clear I'm not a LeBronsexual here. I'm not a Klutch Sports Bot. And I hate the Mainstream Sport Media.
If you want to blame someone for "The Decision" go and point the finger at Dan Gilbert.
Lebron hops , flops and travels.
You're the best Skap, keep the content coming 💪🏾
ABSOLUTELY 🙏❤️💪
@@skap_attack These Bronny Jrs. start flopping when Skap Attacks 💣🗡️⚔️
@@bwink23 😂 😂 😂 I LOVE to see it. I’ll just bathe in some tears later tonight.
@@skap_attackalso I think lebron kind of broke the nba a little with that forming of super teams but the person that really broke it is KD joining golden state, after that bro every single time a super team is form.
@@kobe2kallday BUT KD never woulda went to golden state if Lebron didn’t first form two super teams first. Chicken and egg.
Lebron is gonna have the highest numbers in NBA history. He’s also going to play for 40 seasons to make sure of it. Still lost most of his finals games.
Bro is a D1 Lebron hater😭
This is the living evidence why I absolutely love the 23’Nuggets, the 22’nd15’Warriors, the 19’Raps and the 21’Bucks, plus the 90’sBulls,14’Spurs, 80’Celts,Pistons,Lakers. Championship thru hardwork,organic building and player development. Sidenote: I would want the Blazers(Oden,Roy,Aldridge,Lillard) here so badly,but you know what happened😔
F u mean ‘19 Raptors? They deadass traded off Derozan for a single-season contract with a top-5 player. Nothing organic in that.
@@BrandonCuringtonOfficialso you think Siakam and Lowry were superstars?
@@BrandonCuringtonOfficialyea, but it was the trade that made 99.999999% of NBA world laugh at Raptors and shit on Kawhi. While it wasn't one of those "organic/draft players as a core" teams, it was an absolutely amazing story
You gave honorable mention to the Blazers but not the Dirk lead Mavs who actually won and had one of the best playoff runs of all time?
Didn’t the bulls trade for Rodman making em “superteam”
If what Lebron did was cowardly, I can imagine what words you will use to describe KD's move to the Warriors...
I always thought that was so unnecessary. The Warriors were already building a dynasty at that point. They drafted Curry, Clay Thompson and Draymond Green, who was one of the last picks in the 2nd round of his draft.
I mean, they blew that 3 to 1 series lead in spectacular fashion, but they were a phenomenal team that was built organically. I honestly believe they would have won at least 2 more championships without Durant.
Isn't it interesting how the Warriors are the ones who lost to Lebron's Cavs in the finals.
So instead of running it back with the same team, they recruit KD. But KD is the one who is the "coward". Not the Warriors for recruiting him.🤔
KD needa Steph to win a Ring... Steph doesnt need KD to win Ring...
@@RustCole01
It was a marketing plot so LeBron didn't get him , Kerr event hinted at this , it's why once all lebron went to the Lakers KD left
I can't blame them because it didn't affect GS or Curry
Glad he did. And destroyed lebron.
Where I have to draw the line with this video is how you can look at LeBron’s 2016 playoff/finals run and somehow turn that into a negative strike against his career… Warriors were an 85-14 team (including playoffs to that point) and 3 of those losses came from the Thunder in the WCF. I understand that the Warriors were built up organically but damn the level of disrespect you have to have for LeBron to somehow turn that moment into a another career blemish is wild
I don't appreciate how this guy brushed off rodman like that. Rodman is one of the greatest defensive players of all time
Indeed he was, but he was no super player. Nevertheless he was an EXCELLENT role player.
I think you got the Warriors story wrong. Steph, Dray, and Klay all drafted. Yes, Durant was a nice addition, but the dude was sick of Westbrook getting the #1. They were the only superteam that was a success. Durant left, those three still got a championship with Wiggins who was laughed at at the time. And still those three are together making runs. Pretty fing epic.
The Durant move was equivalent to something like kobe going to the celtics. This is the league mvp, arguably best player at the time, Durant, going to what was already a legendary team. It ruined what could have been a great dynasty between cavs and golden state
@@ericg4915Cleveland built a superteam. Why couldn’t the Warriors? They literally only added one all star. How many did Lebron have?
@@shlidgn90 durant joined what was already arguably the best team in history, ALREADY woth the best record in history, 73-9. Are you trolling me?!?! Steph curry 2 time mvp, 10 time allstar, klay- 5 time allstar, draymond- 4 time allstar. Durant 13 time allstar. Most importantly they were already a championship team BEFORE Durant joined. Thats a huge distinction. Cleveland had never won a ring in its history. And Durant isn't just some allstar, he's a league mvp. Then to say cavs were a "superteam" is absurd. If they were a superteam then you have to call the 2023 nuggets a superteam or the bulls or spurs or pretty much any finals winner in history. Kyrie was drafted to cleveland! Lebron was drafted to cleveland! More importantly it was his hometown team, he had every right to play there. That's so stupid to categorize cavs as a "superteam" and then describe the warriors as "JUST adding one allstar". Lol you know how dumb that sounds
And without Durant they would have a championship in 15' and a championship in 22' ... nobody would call them a dynasty . Think you missed the point
@@roberto5red5rocky85 coulda, woulda, shoulda
I have sooo much respect for MJ and the older players. This privilege generation wants everything easy and fast. PUT YOUR WORK IN with the people you have and make them better. Too much money too fast.
Lebron puts in plenty of work, he wouldn't have accomplished all that he has if that wasn't true. Even when Lebron played with other stars his competition was loaded too. The Spurs and Warriors and Thunder were stacked teams too . MJ didn't start winning until the Dynasty teams of the 80s fell off and the league was expanded that was a much weaker era than now with an abundance of loaded teams. The most talented teams have always won the great majority of championships. Lebron is the only all time great that has to beat super teams with bums to satisfy his haters.
@@robertwhittaker1833 Totally not true. MJ beat teams with multiple hall of famers with less. LeBron always had talent around him when he won. Love LeBron, watched both play but the paths he took to be great is what makes MJ road more astounding. Look how many HOF's MJ stopped from getting rings. YOU DON'T GET CREDIT FOR LOSING!
@@robertwhittaker1833COME UP WITH MORE EXCUSES FOR LeCHOKE... U GOT ALL DAY...
@@user-fo6pg6se6iEXACTLY...
@@user-fo6pg6se6iwho did MJ beat that was better than any of the teams Lebron beat? And stop the cap you obviously don’t love Lebron if you’re watching a video dedicated to shitting on him
A lot of people either don't know or forget that initially the plan was for Carmello to join the Heat with them rather than Bosh. But he was set to make WAY more money by deciding not to. And he liked being the top guy on his team, since he was heavy into iso ball. But that was the agreement them 3 made together the season prior.
This is why I respected Giannis Championship so much. He stayed and grinded and did it the right way. His one Chip is worth more than ALL OF LEBRONS!!
I actually completely agree with this point. Same goes for Jokic. Same would have been true for Durant had he won one in OKC. Unfortunately for Durant he’s a coward too.
Imagine if Jordan would have left the Bulls to join up with the Pistons when they were losing to them for a couple of years as they were building up their talent. He would have not only been completely destroyed by the media and fans everywhere it would have destroyed his legacy. That would be perfectly acceptable in this era though and that's exactly what KD did when he left his team in OKC to join the Warriors. This is what Lefraud started. He made it ok to quit on your team.
Not really the same thing though it would be more like Jordan teaming up with the Cavs or some other team that failed to beat him. Him joining the pistons is more like KD joining the warriors
Jordan wouldn't leave. Detroit was a tough team, Jordan needed guys he could bully
But he recruited a guy off the team he couldn't beat 🤣🤣
Imagine Jordan joining Larry Bird and the Celtics to beat the Pistons😂.....
Yea Jordans legacy would definitly not be the same...
@@xaviercatson780ho recruited who?.....Oooh you talking about Dennis Rodman a guy who was out hes prime over 35 years old and average like 5 points..
Good try buddy i give you credit for that😂
The Jordan' lead Chicago Bulls.
The Bird' lead Boston Celtics.
The Thomas' lead Pistons.
The Robinson / Duncan lead Spurs(s)
These teams and captains are a selection that represents TEAM BUILDING. They became champions not because "Super Teams" with superstars who goes to win because they can't work or have faith in there own teams, but champions because they built there team(s) from the very ground with smart/carefull draft selections and smart trades of miss-placed/under-used tallents that was ready to go big.
NEVER did Jordan, Bird or Thomas walk up to GM and wined and cried they need lots of help. They KNEW that was not dignified or professional but put faith in there team players and coatches to do what they could to win.
And Bulls & Pistons are teams that had carried a long history of FAILURES and losing. But then they both came around to change all that and through solid teambuilding and hard work both teams developed to become not only champions, but GREAT champions!
Honor to Hakeem Olajuwon who competed a whole career with a team with-out "help" and still they was a play-off contender team evrey season - yntil they managed to win back-to-back championships in 1994 & 1995.
Indeed. There are countless examples of all time greats who were able to take on the responsibility to do it the right way. And earn challenging titles. The only player who is routinely forced into GOAT conversations that always took the easy way out and stole cheap rings is Lebron James.
@@skap_attack Amen! Great works with your videos.
@@WarioSaysSo thank you!! And many thanks for tuning in 🙏❤️
Actually Jordan cried to the front office, that they needed to get pippin, and they did, so you don't know what you're talking about
@@hashmoncrief6965 No he bever did! But he defended a lot Pippen and made hard demands for Bulls to keep him there with him.
Not an import demand but a keep demand. Very different.
Video’s logic: “Sure, other teams added HOF players to win rings. But some of them were young. And some of them were old.” Dude, Bosh was just decent - LeBron joined Wade, his friend from the Redeem Team… big deal. The Celtics put together a clear Super Team with KG, Pierce and Allen before that. So did the Rockets with Olajuwon, Barkley, Pippen and Drexler. As did the Lakers when they added (old) Malone and Payton to Kobe and Shaq. LeBron joining the mediocre Heat wasn’t such a problem. The hype around it was annoying and caused people to be big mad. LBJ was ill-advised (likely by his agent) to do that - but still, the worst thing you can say about the guy is that he did a self-aggrandizing announcement interview … which happened to raise millions of dollars for charity. JFC. Man, some ppl’s reaction to The Decision and James as a person/player is emotional garbage.
You're actually serious??😂 Barkley, Olajuwon, teaming up in the 90s was a joke. WAY past their prime, banged up, old, just like Malone and Payton joining the Lakers, same scenario. Even after in depth, explanation in this video, you still don't see any difference. Wow!! It reminds me of every time, I've heard "experts" comments like"He's a former MVP" 10 years after a guy won the award, been injured, aged, but MUST still be MVP caliber, cuz hes got a dusty trophy, somewhere. Quit favoring your favorite players, and analyze, what's ACTUALLY being said here. I'm sure if it was about somebody you didn't care for, exact same circumstances, you'd be all for it.
the Cavs front office could not build anything around this man lebron bro💀💀
So go to the western conference. OR go to Chicago. Go to New York. Go to Atlanta. Go to Toronto. Go anywhere but to the ONLY other great player in the entire trash conference’s team in Wade LOL. There’s levels here. Ring chasing coward.
3:55 correction: both Parish and the draft pick that was used for McHale were traded from the Warriors for two first rounders, one being the first overall pick (Joe Barry Carroll)
while this trade was a fleecing in retrospect, it was a perfectly reasonable deal at the time with JBC projected to be the next dominate big man after an All-NCAA season at Purdue, while McHale was relatively unknown coming out of college. one of many shrewd trades by Red over the years.
Agree 95% Cause Mc Hale
Was #2 or at The Least #3
Best Player in USA National Team in 1979
When They Won The Pan-American Games in
P.R. that Year The Regular Point Guard of that Team suffer an injury a Month o So Before The Games Started and Bobby Knight the USA Head Coach Make the Call to Make the Substitution With His Own Point Guard at Indiana University a Guy That People Never Hear it. I Think Was a Sophomore That Year at Indiana his Name👉🏾ISAIAH THOMAS But He Stole The Show, and in Those Games He Elevate His Stock as a Player.Then in 80-81 Won The NCAA Title, and Enter the DRAFT that Same year in 81.. Mc Hale Enter the
Draft a Year Before, .
USA TEAM Boycott The 1980 Olimpic in Russia
They Planned Goin with the Same Team. But The
Cold War, but I Think The #1 Cause Was Russia invatión of Afghanistan.
Later in 1984. Was Russia that Boycott The USA
Olimpic in L.A
I think going from the 80s Lakers and Celtics straight to the 90s bulls and skipping the Detroit Pistons who made the finals three straight years and won back to back titles seems weird since they played a major part in MJ becoming the titan that he was after going against them turning him to the goat.
Agree there
Those piston teams were nasty good !
Anyone who was actually around in 2011 or 2008 will tell you the Celtics and Heat did not invent the concept of Big 3s or superteams. Those 2011 Mavs had like 5 players who had previously been part of "Big 3s".
Miami Heat were lucky to have won that 2013 nba finals. Otherwise, their record would have been 1-3 in NBA finals during Lebron's time there.
Yes they are very lucky that they outplayed the Spurs
Should have been 0-4 , the refs took the Thunder out the game starting at the end of game 2 when they allowed Lebron to hack Durant several times and it was downhill from there with the calls …. Cheap fouls and technicals to help the Heat overcome them
@@jeromerozier872 it was 4-1 Heat.
@@patjenkins1308 … either u can’t read or just stubborn, it was 1-0 about to be 2-0 when the refs started their mess
@@patjenkins1308 … but when I say 0-4 I meant the time with the Heat in the Finals … ‘13 Spurs a brain fart and ‘12 the refs took the Thunder out
You also could have mentioned Rodman wasn't liked at the Spurs for his off the court behavior and people were shocked the Bulls took the risk. Despite him being a known great reminder at San Antonio.
Exactly. Rodman was considered done, a bum with drug and mental problems.
One of my first basketball memories was seeing a headline of the Admiral (David Robinson) vs the Worm (Rodman). Worm was a well-earned nickname. On the other hand, the one good thing he did was defense. He got lots of rebounds and that let the others focus on offense.
None of this is true. Rodman was coming off two great DPOY level seasons. He called out Robinson and Pop for letting Hakeem have his way with them during the playoffs. San Antonio was tired of his justified criticism. The moment Rodman arrived in Chicago, I knew they were winning.
@shlidgn90 "justified criticism", how were they supposed to beat Hakeem, Clyde Drexler, Big Shot Rob (Horry) hitting game winners that very series vs spurs, Maxwell, Kenny the Jet, Cassel etc when all Spurs had was basically Robinson. Getting Rodman was a terrible decision. Spurs needed an offensive player to get the double and triple off of Robinson, Hakeem had that privilege, Robinson did not. Instead they got Rodman who can't score or do anything besides rebound. Rodman being trash on offense is a huge reason why spurs lost in playoffs. Funny thing is that they still would have probably won that series if not for Robert Horry being Mr. Clutch for Houston.
Bulls it worked out, since they didn't even really need Rodman anyways lol. Plus they had 2 big scorers instead of 1 so they could benefit by using rodmans rebounds.
@@shlidgn90 You're wrong. Rodman was a great rebounder and defender also in San Antonio but he had huge personality, temper, and mental problems. He went even missing and they were looking for him for days, lost in a vagon. There were rumours about him having suicidal tendencies, and everybody had heard about drugs and alcohol. The Bulls worked hard for keeping him relatively calm, with very heavy exercise to consume his energy and clear his mind, as Phil Jackson wrote, MJ himself hanging around with him, they hired his buddy as a player to sit in suit on the bench and cheer for him, and of course the clapping tactic to control his range in order to remain in the game. Then, in LA, Shaq said Rodman was the worst teammate he ever had, and nobody liked him in Dallas too. The Bulls needed a power forward after Horace Grant left, and that was the only reason they took that risk with the worm. Nobody knew they were winning. We all expected to see if that move could be succesful, and most importantly if Michael would be able to return to his previous condition, for the Bulls to have a shot at the title against Orlando, Houston and the others. What happened was beyond Bulls fans hopes and dreams.
Garnett was 100% considered "elite" when he went to Boston.
And the reason the Celtics didn't win more championships is because Garnett blew his knee out and they were coached by Doc Rivers.
As a Wolves fan my entire life, the "Love was putting up major numbers Pre Cavaliers" argument is missing necessary context: He was the ONLY not AWFUL player on that team. Seriously, he did that during the Wolves longest span of never making the playoffs in NBA history! Literally the worst dynasty in NBA history so of course his stats will be high. They had no one else to give the ball to.
So those numbers aren't what they seem, although he was a good player. I would not say elite though.
Great vid.. Thank you for pointing out the Differences between Historically Great teams that were Organically Built and Developed over time vs SUPERTEAMS that were Basically built over a Single Summer and have Multiple Great Players who just wanted to Stack the Deck and Collude in order to BUY Championships.
I'd lend more credence to this video if he didn't make excuses for a number of teams while stating that acquiring one mvp talent was unethical for the warriors. Yeah, the Durant trade was bad for the NBA but people only say it's worse than previous super team attempts because it worked.
@@rishirajbose2444Durant signed with the Warriors as a free agent.
@@rishirajbose2444your argument isn't even one. The Heat were a super team and only went 2-2. All that talent and LeBron was the PRIMARY reason they lost vs Dallas.
@@HighStakesBBall I'm not arguing about the heat or lebron. I'm talking about golden state. I think the heat big 3 was much much worse than what gsw did with Durant.
Lmao Four appearances 4 finals appearances in 4 years. Back to back wins. They were by far one of the greatest of their times and they're gonna go down in history as 1 of the greatest teams ever.
Loving your work! It is very appreciated and enjoyable. I think I can speak for most of those watching, we all look forward to notifications from your channel! 🙏
Yup I’m with ya brotha, just found lebrons biggest fan channel 😊
I don't...
Dude your channel and content is such a nice change . Very fun
I respect what Boston did with their big 3..3 stars who had respectable careers but never really won..getting older but still good..putting ego aside and winning it all. Good for them.
That’s correct. Not an unfairly stacked super pairing of ELITE top 5 players OR 3 top 15 players in their primes.
@@skap_attack the mid to late 90s rockets could of been them if not for barkley and hakeem injuries
@@skap_attackhis is false, Ray Allen and Garnett were still in their early 30s when they joined Boston and Paul Pierce was 29, they were all still elite players in 2007, hell Ray just averaged 26 points a game the season before in Seattle. You just have a problem with Lebron doing it because you already don’t like him.
@@jaydot4956 there’s not a single shred of information in that video that is inaccurate. And I stand behind it. Boston wasn’t a super team in my opinion.
@@skap_attack I agree with your video but with the Boston big 3, one of them made an all NBA first team the year before they joined up together, otherwise, amazing video.
11:51 Imagine having this accomplishments plus Both in their PRIMES Yet they Fumbled against an Aging Team💀
But then again maybe if they didnt Mock Dirk Sickness. Karma wont bit them
Watching Dirk and Dallas for the first time in those Finals and seeing that classless act by DWade and LBJ, I instantly hated the Miami Heat. I was pulling for Dallas afterward and so happy for their victory!!
The 2011 loss is the greatest gag job in all of pro sports history. Not just lebrons career. Not just the nba. All of professional, organized sports.
@@skap_attack Nah, I would say Tyson getting KO'ed by Buster Douglas is.
@@skap_attack Nah, 2016 Golden State and arguably 2004 LA were worse by a lot. And then you've got the Miracle on Ice which might be the actual number one. Then you got the 07 super bowl, the 2017 super bowl, 2011 isnt even CLOSE lol. Yankees blowing a 3-0 lead? NFL's "The Comeback"? "Wide Right"? Man, the Bruins just blew a 3-1 lead in the first round after setting the best record in NHL history. You got Tyson vs Buster Douglas, too.
2004 Kobe actually played wayyy worse than lebron. Lebron was still pretty efficient and made a few plays. Every time kobe got the ball in 2004, he got mad, put up a terrible shot, and missed. Dude shot 17% from three just because he got so selfish. Yikes.
Cowards way describes this era to a T. Thanks to Lebron. He and Silver changed the game to detriment of the game.
I love your channel and I really like your announcing style. Great stuff.
Thank you! I appreciate you saying so, and I appreciate you tuning in 🙏❤️
@@skap_attack I am a Laker for life so the past few seasons have been nasty to watch, even that bubble chip. Seriously. I have been watching purple and gold since 1970 (just turned the big 60 last week)
I saw Wilt and West, Showtime, Shaq and Kobe, Kobe and Gasol.... great champions all.
That bubble was the weakest shit I have ever seen sold as a chip.
I say LeBron's real record is 3-6 and *
The young generation will not understand this.
Very well explained.
Bro I am so happy. I found your channel. You're viewpoint is spot on. I agree with everything you Say in almost every video. I'm not sure if I disagree with anything but there you go. I went back and watched a bunch of videos. Great job man, it's all I can say.
My only disagreement was how he categorized the 2016 cavs as a superteam. I don't think they qualify. Irving was drafted to cavs, lebron was drafted to cavs, it was his hometown team. And love is not a superstar
Pippen wasn’t drafted by the Bulls, he was drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics. It was a draft day trade the landed Pippen on the Bulls.
it shows how much talent Lebron has if ANY team he joins automatically becomes a superteam after the Heat
These stories are truly remarkable in the sense that it is in harmony with what we actually see and witnessed with our very eyes. That’s why it’s confusing watching the media push out LeBrons false narrative because they declare things that didn’t happen. Or manipulate the actions that took place.
You have to recognize false info and hate when you see it brotha. Lebron isn’t a saint don’t get me wrong but think about from the player perspective. Fan opinion doesn’t matter at the end of the day and it’s really the players. If the legends don’t think Lebron is POS for his decision that shows there’s a deeper understanding and not ass kissing going on. But I wish you a blessed dss as T brotha, sorry for the book
They have to bc Jordan’s been retired for 20 years and this is the best they can do to save the nba
Media pushed a false narrative that Jordan didn't create a Superteam when he signed off on the Rodman trade.
Media pushed a false narrative that Dirk won 2011 FMVP --while we all looked a Shawn Marion have an EPIC defensive showcase on Lebron and that is MAINLY why the Mavs won.
Media pushes a false narrative about Steph's Legend since 2015 --did you EVER denounce any of those false narratives????
If not? Then you risk appearing like a lunatic for using those words concerning Lebron
@@MegaMjjordanexcept you are wrong in using an absolute to claim “the legends” dont think anything is wrong. At the end of the day, most NBA stars of the past will go along with the NBA’s agenda as the league been good to them. They don’t out right say but they tell you they wouldn’t do it. Giannis, Joker are two modern players that feel the same way and won chips the hard/right way.
However, there are a few past legends that are outspoken about the lack of competitive nature of the current NBA. Barkley, for one, called out Lebron several times on his team hopping and only wanting to stack the deck and win easy chips, that is until the league shut him up or Klutch money got his tongue allegedly. Nowadays, he seems to be talking like everyone now. No integrity anymore, just shillary.
Btw love how you attempted to invalidate the fans perspective on these cheap rings simply because, in your mind, only players opinion, past or present, that go along with this mess, are valid. That’s the problem with today. You give up your right to think for yourself and let the analyst and media in general think for you.
I used to love the nba now I can't stand it, and you nailed exactly why
I feel the same way. My favorites growing up were Lew Alcindor and Oscar Robertson. Can't stand to watch a minute of it now. Traveling all over the place, refs call whatever they want when it suits them (and the league...), people just tossing up bomb after bomb, and Lebron basically has a hall pass to do whatever he wants. Add in the politics and no thanks...
@@a1kid Didn't Kareem demand a trade to leave the Bucks?
@@xaviervega468 that’s referenced in the videos. He went to the lakers who were 30-52 the year before he arrived and Magic was still high school. Not really a “team up”. Also Kareem won a title for the bucks before he left them.
@@a1kid I loved the NBA up until Kobe ruptured his Achilles. We were already into the super team era at that point. I could barely watch it myself for much of the decade of 2011-2020. I have hopes with Giannis and Jokic we might be heading back into the light.
Same here
I just can't forget how Dirk
destroyed Lebron,Wade and Bosh in the 2011 finals,
causing Lebron to have a
literal meltdown.
Even , Curry , who is a helluva shooter tried to reconstitute a superteam by trying to get Jokic to come to the Warriors , Jokic would have none of it
Criticism, facts, well narrated and edited, straight to the point, no theories. More content like this is needed nowadays for educational purposes. Maybe such criticism will encourage young folks to do some research into previous decades of bball. They have no base for comparison, know only how the orange tastes, never enjoyed an apple.
No. The criticism is illogical, the facts are fleeced plus gutted, and it is all poorly-narrated with gobbledygook edits. Altho Skap's jealousy and covet are overt & straight to the point, no theories about that for sure LOL.
It makes you wonder if Skap must've finally found Lebron's rookie metal FLEER card in his wife's wallet or something.
More content like Skap's is needed --to be silenced nowadays! Yes, due to the contents' satanic element and its demonic quotient.
Maybe such criticism like Skap's will encourage young folks to do some research into previous decades of hoops then go criticize MJ for signing off on a Superteam in 1995's trade for Rodman. Yep, or go complain about how Charles Barkley pulled a J.Harden move/manipulated his way out of PHX to eventually create a Superteam with Pippen & Olajuwon... Hey, or how about when GP & K.Malone joined Shaq & Kobe for a Superteam in 2003-04 Laker land?
See? How They would have a great base for comparison, if they disregard horrid hypocrisy like yours and Skap's???
Skap is deceitful for not chronicling why Lebron took that leap ---because of how Team owners threw loyalty out the window within the 1999 CBA! Yes, so it takes only *our fatuity* to wrongly blame 2010 Lebron for following the frontier the owners laid out.
Cavs' owner wouldn't spend money on elite veterans to join Lebron, he just left Lebron to know only how the orange tastes/never enjoyed a sweet apple.
So Lebron went to MIA to taste that sweet apple 😎 then he VEHEMENTLY shared it with CLE in June 2016 when he lead Cavs to the greatest championship in NBA history.
If that's a COWARD's WAY then I'll be glad to go live a cowardice lifestyle like that ---ANYTIME!
I want to see an analysis of how much of a team's future value is given up in order to build around Lebron's super teams in order for them to win while he is there.
Also it would be good to see how much player movement is made to tailor fit a team each time Lebron joins them.
Looking plainly, it seems Lebron has had an overwhelming advantage over other players in having a chance at championships simply because of these two things.
That needs to be pointed out more often. Also, what are the numbers of those he plays with when they’re on his team vs not?
He’s a great athlete but he’s not a leader. They make him the leader because of his athleticism but he’s not a good leader which is why, despite 4 rings, he’s underperformed his whole career.
To be in GOAT consideration you have to be a leader. He’s a great athlete, but he can’t lead his team like almost every other GOAT candidate could. The best role for him would actually be one like Pippen or Stockton, where he could do his thing without worrying about how to lead his team.
Facts!!!
@@chamuuemura5314thank you!!!
Actually, a more significant analysis would be to calculate the locust effect of how decimated each team became after Lebron left.
@@sleepyheadz That's already covered by how much of a team's future value is given up for Lebron. I guess you're too dumb to understand.
showing dat dance from stephen curry im convinced he is gay 😂
The super teams were always there.
Celtics- pierce, garnet, Allen
Houston - bardley, decker, Olajuwon.
The 2nd bulls team was absolutely a super team. Rodman was acquired for defense and rebounding and fans knew they were going to win.
The only difference is that players today are selfish. They got paid and now they’re elite. We’re privileged to watch them so be happy with what we got. Thats everywhere now though. Kids today are raised to be entitled.
FALSE..The way yall just blatantly lie and make up ridiculous narratives just to defend LeBron is pathetic...The Bull's 2nd championship most definitely was NOT a superteam. The Bulls were a 5th seed that loss in the 2nd round in 1995 and added Dennis Rodman, who was a player that had a disastrous ending in San Antonio and no other team wanted..NOBODY just knew the Bulls were gonna win 72 games and a championship so stop lying..Comparing Dennis Rodman (who wasn't an all star) to the players that LeBron joined (and still LOST TWICE with) in Miami is pure stupidity...
It's not really consequential to your point but I think you are downplaying Pau Gasol's impact on the Lakers. He wasn't just a fringe all star with them, he was arguably the best offensive PF at the time and very good on defense
Stop lying, he was at best an average defender at best and a below average post defender. He wasn’t better then Duncan or dirk offensively and was only higher because guys like webber, Wallace, garnett were getting older
@@chitownkidd33 I didn't say he was the best, he was a top PF in the league and that's not a lie. Dirk was better at shooting, Pau was better inside. Duncan was better inside and Pau was better at shooting. If the other guys were getting older and producing less than that would mean Gasol was better at the time.
I disagree, Gasol was good but he’s no Dirk, Duncan, or Chris Bosh. Gasol was also a liability on defense, people believe Gasol was better than what he was when he joined the Lakers. But in all honesty Gasol shined more on the Lakers due to Kobe and Phil Jackson pushing him to new heights in his game. They also ran the triangle through him and Kobe, so he was forced to be a scorer. Aside from that Gasol is a all-star that peaked late and washed after he reached a certain level. I can’t say that for a player like Tim Duncan or even Dirk to an extent. Those guys lead teams to the finals themselves, Pau didn’t reach the finals until he was paired with Kobe.
A lot of Power Forwards back then putting up similar stats as Gasol not saying he wasn’t better then some of them but Z Randolph D Lee Aldridge Al Jefferson D West A Jamison C Boozer E Brand A Stoudimare that’s not counting the better ones like Bosh Duncan Garnett Dirk
@@thestrengthreport7517 that's my point though he was good on the Lakers and he wasnt a liability on defense until he left the lakers and got older
Dude your content is absolutely slapping so hard right now. Production value, voiceover, everything is stellar!
Within 25 seconds i subscribed 🔥🔥....this guy and his presentation made this epic 💯
Thank you!! And welcome on board to the channel 🙏❤️
The guy narrating this is a Lebron hater. The cavs team with Lebron and Kyrie were not a super team and Love was always injured. Before Lebron came back they were terrible and when he left they became bad again.
This guy preaches the truth and exposes the weakness of basketball players
There is no truth when he picks and chooses what to talk about
He ain't saying shit about Garnett's big 3 in Boston
@@Seroccohe did and said specially why not a big 30 cause all in the 30’s. Unlike all mid 25’s
@@markthespark2909 Celtics Big 3 were still considered in the prime.
@@atlanta1290 as the video said, “prime” but still not in the prime in which Bron Wade & Bosh we’re. Teaming up with a player you’re supposed to be proving to yourself & the world you’re better than him. Bron going to Wade’s team is one of the p*ssiest moves in NBA at that time
To add to the facts about Rodman and the Bulls and challenge some fans' perception that Dennis was a superstar, by that point in his career, despite his continued rebounding and defensive prowess, Rodman was considered such a liability that the Spurs happily traded him for Will Perdue, a career backup center. No draft picks, no future options, just a straight trade.
Do superstars really get traded for low production backup centers?
To be fair “The Decision” help raise over $2 million dollars for the Boys & Girls club… But for sure it did destroy the competitiveness 😂
"the possible shift from the era of the super team"
The editing of showing of Giannis and Jokic during this line was sublime.
80s Lakers fan here. Found myself rooting for the homegrown nuggets rather than LBJs free agent Lakers this past year.
Miss the days of drafted players learning to gel together over time and play team basketball, like the old Lakers/Celtics and current Nuggets.
Jokic is a magic/bird hybrid who puts team above self.
Lakers haven't been homegrown in decades lmao
@@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326 And that’s why I haven’t rooted for them in decades.
@@soulpatrolhawaii5409 that's dumb ass fuck then your front office can't make trades or sign players?
@@soulpatrolhawaii5409 can you call a sports radio show or make a podcast I would love to hear your......."interesting" thoughts
@@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326hes right
If you think these LeBron vids are excessive then try watching any common media sports show discuss the nba at anytime since 2011
Exactly 🛎️💯
Saying LeFlop as GOAT is the most excessive 😂
Lakers had 4 first overall picks at one point: Magic, Worthy, Alcinder, & Thompson.
Annnnnnd Magic went to 9 finals in 12 years and won 5 against other MONSTER teams being concurrently still roaming around that east. The STACKED ass Sixers, the Celtics, the pistons. All of those teams had 3-4 hall of famers. THIS era actually HAD competitive balance until one LOSER couldn’t cut it.
@@skap_attack Agreed, have much more respect for the teams who draft most of their players.
Wilt's main focus in the '72 season was on the defensive end. His primary role during his tenure as a Laker was to be the defensive anchor of the team. West and Goodrich were the main scoring options for the team. Though he did decline after the knee injury he wasn't washed up.
this dude exposes LeBron like no other 😂😂
Great video! I hate that we need to have videos like this made, but they are so necessary for the integrity of league history. It’s important in the years to gmc one to keep elevating Kobe and Duncan.
"These 3 cowards would rise up out of the ground together....." Rofl
and that is why I was really happy with Bucks and Denver's championships
Denver i was happy with. Giannis had to injure Kyrie to get past the Nets to get his chip, so i cant respect it. He's a dirty player, Jokic isnt.
And GS' win they didn't need KD and that proves it
@@thepubknight6144 true that. KD's just a passenger
@@thepubknight6144 GS didn't need KD to beat the Celtics or an injured Cavs team. They weren't getting thru LeBron to get a championship without KD though. As you can see, they just lost to a 38 year old LeBron, that's how much he owns them.
Great work as always! I believe Wilt had surgeries on both his knees by the time he went to the Lakers(?). I believe Kareem demanded a trade to the Lakers or Knicks b/c Milwaukee wasn't his cup of tea. He missed the playoffs year 1, then got swept by Walton. Then they got Wilkes, Nixon and Dantley. So from there had a good team. Lost in the 1st round to Sikma, Gus and DJ Sonics. Added Cooper-lost again to the Sonics. Then the rest is history after Magic saves his career. Kareem and Bron's careers parallel very well in how they had big stats, but couldn't do anything without a stacked team.
iiinteresting
Their both not franchise players like that myth that lebron makes teams better is false he needs stars alongside him to win😂
Lebron does and did NOT need a star to win. He made all his teammates better than there had been. So, he is the goat.
I’m going to play Devil’s advocate here. There was no way LeBron was going to win a championship with the Cavaliers during his first stint. Not with the talent and management he had there. Had he stayed, he would’ve been going through what Damian Lillard is going through right now. So I definitely don’t blame him for leaving. I still think he shouldn’t have done that TV special though.
Exactly the way I feel about the situation
Bro he definitely had enough and was good enough himself to win. 07 finals were all close games and he averaged 22 on 35% shooting. 2009 he played amazing, I admit they got outplayed by a team that just matched up well and was shooting lights out. 2010 he flat out quit and gave up after being up 2-1 and playing very well. That’s the thing with Lebron, he just seems like at times he doesn’t want it enough or folds.
Lebron's legacy is going to age like his Space Jam movie.
It’s already at that point for me 😉
The GOAT doesn’t have a losing record in the NBA Finals.
The Skap is back, and he's about to attack! 🔥
The bulls were a super team even when Isaiah Thomas is complaining about Scottie Pippen, a nobody, not wanting him on the dream team?
As LeBron goes to the Lakers and LeBron is the only Laker to ever beg for respect, the biggest disappointment ever in Laker Nation😢😢😢😢
Great video, the best I have seen on this matter. ESPN should be ashamed to fall beneath this analysis. Great editing, excellent.
Thank you very much for the kind words, and many thanks for watching 🙏❤️
I love how Bron stans turn Bosh and Love into trash role players while saying Bill Cartwright and BJ Armstrong were star players 😂😂
I legit need a link to this everyone lebron plays with gets credit
@@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326 link to what? So you never seen Bosh and Love get trashed? Particularly after 2014 loss and 2018 loss.
As to the1960s celtic team, don't forget about the late great john havlicek. By the end of the dynasty, he was the best player on the team. And was probably the best player on the celtics 1970s 2 championship teams.
Ill never 4get 2009 NBA was running commercials 4 the Finals, Kobe vs Lebron but he couldnt answer the bell
And then Lebron failed AGAIN in the 2010 playoffs. AND then crawled his ass to south beach HAHA.
My bias is gonna say Warriors need to be in a category of their own. The 2017-2019 teams had 3 home grown talents before the addition of KD. It's still a super team but they drafted all their key starters.
so kd wasn't a key starter?
@@laz0ramaThe Warriors were pretty much a super team before KD smart one. The team before KD was essentially homegrown
Jokic and Giannis doing it the right way!
thats slow and stupid way. Lebron's instant noodle way is the best.
They’re proving that y’all Americans ain’t shit and basketball now belongs to the world none of y’all young American super stars can even touch Luka or jokic
@@napoleong9418Jokic got first ring in 8th year.
Giannis got first ring in 8th year
LeBron got first ring in 9th year.
@@napoleong9418Brah, are you slow?
Because their teama are loyal to them.
What LeBron started was not 3+ top players coming together, it was players conspiring to get together at some franchise as if they were going out for dinner before either winning the championship or demanding ridiculous trades 1-2 seasons later. GMs and coaches basically became meaningless, mere instruments to fulfill the stars' wishes. You could argue that Bill Russell never won a championship by himself, but that team was built by the Celtics' GM and coached by the Celtics' coach. LeBron's superteams were built by LeBron and (largely) coached by him too.