Keep your subjective opinions on the side, young man. Not worth anymore of my time. Your debate of MJ & Lebronski has already been answered. Lebron comes of the bench & sits at the end of the game, because he cannot be trusted to make a free throw or win a game
You missed out Larry Bird ....... And LeBron is way too high ....... All those years studying the game since the age of 11, were clearly a waste of time.
Please tell me who bird is replacing on that list? & bird is 11. Steph passed him 2 years ago. & lebron is 2 high? Brother what😭 lebron has an avg placement on top 50 players of all times list of a 1.9 avg placement but he’s 2 high😭😭😭. Lebron & Jordan are universally known in the unbias & professional sports community to be 1 or 2. This lebron hate has to stop bro
@@uhhswifty I'd leave Duncan out of the Top10, and where I place LeBron depends upon the criteria. If we're talking individual contests in a one v one pick up game, then he's probably Top 5, but if we're talking building a team to win NBA championships, then he's in the 6,7,8 region.
Lol how old are you? After saying magic played against the greats and then saying mj played in the weakest era 🤯, james clutch?? Shaq came closest after saying karim could be no1??? How many players in James's era in your top 10 mr objective 😅😂😂😂
How tf is Shaq above Duncan or Kobe both have more rings , more all defensive teams , more all nba teams , Kobe has more all time points , Duncan has more mvps
Lost me in the intro when he said unbiased then every person he said in my opinion. If I wasn't washing dishes I would've switched the video off faster than I did
Kobe had 15 ppg in 2000 because jalen rose intentionally stepped on his ankle in game 3. Kobe played less than 5 mins in that game and had 2 points. Kobe also should’ve won at least 3 mvps but was black listed by the nba media after his rape allegations. I would argue Kobe was the best player in the nba from 2003 til 2010. Not delusional, just facts. You are probably younger than 25 so I will forgive you for your ignorance. Kobe is #2 all time behind only Jordan
Brother I’m sorry to tell you no one shares that opinion. The only people who put Kobe that high are bias people. Kobe was my HERO I LOVE KOBE BRYANT. & I’m sorry scoring 2 points in 1 game does not drop your avg 50000 pts bro😭 he jus had a terrible series he shot 35% from the field & got carried. it’s okay bro. I grew up watching Afro Kobe btw.
@@uhhswifty lol I’m the only one who shares that opinion? How about Allen iverson, KD, tmac, sga? I think I’d rather take the opinions of actual ballers over your opinion champ 👍 Charles Barkley also recently said Kobe is better than bron. You Bron fan boys are the most DELUSIONAL fan base, if ray Allen and Kyrie Irving don’t hit big shots Bron would be 2 and 8 in finals. You think switching teams every 4 years to chase superteams is admirable ? At least Kobe got 5 rings with 1 team. In the early 2000s Kobe had shaq but Kobe was still a top 5 player in the league at 22 years old, y’all talk about him like he was some bum when he was averaging 29ppg in the 2001 playoffs, in an era where teams actually played defence.
@papaproduction 1. Folks Who say that have bias opinions. Analyst are purely studiers of the game with no bias opinion. They can have bias opinions but most don’t. NBA players hVe bias opinions. & jus cause you play the game at a high lvl don’t mean you understand the game more then an analyst who strictly just focus on everything about the game. 2. Look up top 10 player list Kobe Is never ever ever ever ever ever ever on any professional list ever top 5 😭 it’s known on sports shows to be embarrassing to have Kobe top 5😭😭😭😭😭 you literally don’t even understand how delusional you sound😭 like dawg go on first take & say this you’ll never be allowed to show your face anywhere again😭 you’ll have to change your name or you’ll get clowned 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@uhhswifty pretty sure there’s a guy who invented first take by the name of skip bayless who puts Kobe over lebron. Not sure why my last comment got deleted maybe cos I swore but anyway, good luck building a fan base with your bias opinions. You barely have 2k views on this video 😉
Lol okay? Skip Bayless is a hater😭 he is literally the only person who puts Kobe above lebron & the only person with Kobe in his top 5😭😭😭😭 THE ONLY ONE😭 I WATCH EVERYSHOW😭 if anyone says Kobe is better then lebron everyone clowns them😭 & look at Lebrons #s in 2018 & he did that with a broken hand btw 😭😭 yea okay bubba 😭.
You said kobe was 8th but Lebron number 1? 🤣🤦♂️if bron the best how come he only has 4 rings in 21+years? If he’s the best why hasn’t he had 3peat? Kobe fans are delusional to put kobe at 2nd behind MJ. Was close to achieving his second 3peat btw and won with one other allstar while bron cant win with the most stacked teams that he puts together 🤣 bron is an alltime great, but sorry he aint no king unless u r counting turnovers and flopping lol he a duke or a noble; he’s definitely royalty but nowhere near the top. He hasnt played defense consistently in ten years🤣
@uhhswifty HaHa you don't know l was born n into the game my father worked for Celts in 60s you know nothing you started watching at 11 l started at birth I'm now 66 you have 0 knowledge, your podcast means nothing! I also worked an played with the Rockets from 79 to 97! Keep dreaming you have no game!
This era of basketball is the weakest and softes Era in Basketball History There Is No Defense thats why scoring is up and its by far the softest Era in sports History its ugly to watch at times most of yhe game is a 3-point contest and viewership is way down since the 80s and the 90s
Your wrong. 1 the no defense is a misconception. They don’t play defense in the regular season. They play playoff physical hard defense. You’d know that if you knew the game. 2 bench players would start on championchip teams back then brother 😂
Not only the basketball but also the fans that say lbj is the goat. No one on the first 9 says they are the goat except 4 this man wearing the jersey number of player he said his idol and his goat, he said it before until dumb fans pushes him to be better than mj.
Been a student of the game since mid-sixties, which may be a few more years than you. Watched everybody from Russell on. Comparing different positions is comparing apples and oranges. Different skill set and roles involved. Also, I evaluate based on individual performance, not team performance. Third, I heavily discount awards; since they are voted on and thus heavily subjective. The only exception is the 1st and 2nd all NBA defense teams, since there are relatively few metrics to go by. Your top ten list is plausible. But what constitutes greatness? Offense? Or offense plus defense? I try to consider both. I'd easily put Stockton or Chris Paul ahead of Curry at PG: Points generated (scoring + assists) per 36 minutes: Curry Stockton 39.5, Stockton 38.7, Paul 38.4 NBA 1st or 2nd team defense: Curry 0, Stockton 5x, Paul 9x As shooting guard, Kobe's offensive production is pretty far down the list, but he was one of the best on defense. So I'll give you that one. I'd also replace Shaq with Hakeem. Shaq's offensive number a little better and rebounds the same, but Hakeem was all-NBA defense 9x compared to 3x for Shaq. Plus Shaw couldn't shoot FTs. Of course, if Jockic, Doncic, and Giannis maintain their continue current pace, they could easily end up in the top ten.
1) Michael Jordan 2) Kareem Abdul Jabber 3) Magic Johnson 4) Kobe Bryant 5) LeBron James 6) Larry Bird 7) Bill Russell 8) Tim Duncan 9) Hakeem Olajuwon 10) Shaq ❤❤❤❤
Mj 1 get outta here with this list completely disrespectful LeBron played in the leastern conference finals then couldn't finish the job your goat is 4-6 in finals in appearances also your stats you say that lebum is more clutch is false they took a sample size for 1 game a year if you look at the totally lebum is 20% on clutchness MJ is 50% you obviously don't know what your talking about
LeBron the greatest? Look at his stats. 4 rings. Kobe, Duncan and Magic have 5, Kareem and MJ have 6 rings, and Russell 11. Kobe and MJ would tear LeBron up in a one and one battle. LeBron doesn't have that killer instinct like Kobe and MJ to win a game and a Championship. Kareem has higher scoring stats than LeBron. To me I don't think you have really seen the past generations of the NBA to determine who the greatest player really is!
It's not that deep at all. 21 years only 4 tittles,Only led the league in any catagory twice(once in scoring, once in assit) in 21 years mr.pass 1st only 1assit title😂10 scoring titles 3x steals leader
lol this man says the weakest era. LeBron is a pussy. Check the all time free throws record bro this generation of basketball is so overrated the 90s was a dog fight
@@uhhswifty they played a little thing called defense, your era gets a tech just for staring..soft as f**k 😂 by the way, did you see the All-Star game this year? Weak as f**k! Back in the 90’s, they were actually competitive, not lazy.
SORRY BUT YOUR LIST IS VERY WRONG: SHAQ OVER BRYANT? NO. MAGIC BEHIND WILT? NO. JORDAN BEHIND LEBRON IS BECAUSE YOU THINK AS A FAN. THAT'S GREAT BUT DONT PRETEND TO BE OBJECTIVE WITH A LIST. BETTER SAY MY PERSONAL LIST.
Bro this list is literally like almost very much accurate to every professional list there is 😂 your jus delusional lmao & Shaq is over Kobe what nobody thinks Kobe was better then shaq😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 no REAL person with an unbias opinion thinks Kobe is better then Shaq bubba😭
No Larry bird, no Hakeem Olajuwon just proved you haven’t watched enough basketball. Shaq? They had to sit him at the end of games because his free throw shooting was a liability.
I mean this list is close to like every professional analyst list ever so igs 😂 bird is 11 lol Steph passed em & um no Kobe is def 8-12😭 your jus delusional & don’t know the game clearly. Kobe on top 10 list on google has an avg placement of 8 & lebron has an avg placement of 1.9 lol but okay
Wilt Chamberlain Magic and Russell all played when everyone at their position was 3 to 4 inches smaller then them ! When ur 7 foot and u are rebounding against someone who is 6 foot 8 ur going to win!
Hey Swiftee, I have no problem with your top 10, hell, they are as solid as any put together.But Bruh, never call any players who played in this league a Bum. You and Gilbert Arenas for people who claim to know so much and are so knowledgeable about the history of this league should know better than to show such blatant disrespect to any of players who made it and played in it and helped shape it into what it is today, from any era. I don't know if you played ball, but you didn't make it to the league . Just because you watched a few games over the years doesn't give you the right or credibility to make such ill-mannerd and disrespectful remarks about anyone past or present or to judge any players from back in the day. That you never or had the opportunity to watch , so don't assume to know my era cause you don't, at least not well enough to show them such disrespect by calling them bums especially Gilbert Arenas who had his moment and blew it like a bum and feels he's qualified to throw shade on players he's not even worthy of holding their jockstraps. Yeah, they had their issues but the players in that era was the best and skilled of any era of the NBA ever had and could more than hold their own against any of today's rendition and every team had at least one or more allstars or future HOF'er on their roster and the league & games were competitive with defense, so much so they had to change the rules so the scorers of today could do so more easily like your goat LBJ uncontested. So much so that You as a export would've recognized and showen that respect, because it was earned not given a long time ago. Bruh,I'm old school, in my 60's and started watching the NBA and became a lifelong fan of the sport & league in 1970. You would think such a expert on the NBA would've done more research before choosing such a blatant slap in your face ass word to describe the players of that era. Respect Bruh, to you and any new school expert who thinks calling out any era of the NBA other than this present rendition needs to show more of when referring to the history of the league. Because it just didn't start in then2000's it's been around and you young bucks should put some well deserved respect on all the players name that made it more possible and easier for the players today including LBJ ya'll so openly worship simply because you can witness them in real time. And think they're the best thing since ice cream & cake.
How can you say that Curry is better than Isiah Thomas and Larry Bird? Steph Curry is easily tied with Bird. And Kobe should be in the top 5 at best. Your list is way off. I mean. I'm a huge Kobe fan. But he isn't THE best.
Boo boo boo. As in the MOST IDIOTIC choice of top 10 EVER... DON'T BOAST that you know basketball well. IT AIN'T DOODS! James maybe your goat. You're right actually. James is the 🐐 goat of: flopping, missed playoffs, mistakes, crying... Definitely 🐐 goat of boasting... Whoin the right mine would say I AM THE GOAT! When Jordan don't think he is.. Yet most players voted Jordan as the G.O.A.T... old and new generation alike like Curry, Durant, Rose, etc...
Jordan never flop on the basketball court LeBron James flop he cried he complained like a little girl if Jordan went to win the college and came straight to the NBA he would have probably play 20 years too come on now let's be real about it
@dg832 bro I’m tellin you right now idk where you got those numbers from brother but lebron is the clutchest nba player EVER in the playoffs lebron is 48% to Jordan’s 55% so imma gone nip that in the bud right there
I respect your list but you never seen mj play remember kobe, mj is a better version of kobe plus back then the NBA was much tougher not like today NBA the only reason lebron gotten to the finals so much because the east was garbage come on you need to do your research
So with your logic the buffalo bills is the greatest football ever they went to 4 straight super bowls but did not when one of dem so that mean they was better than the cowboys of the 90s
Dude you give Jordan dat heat I promise you they when will when da not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 but 7 rings Lebrun promise keep in mind Jordan first 3 peat team was not like da team Lebrun had and Jordan 2nd 3 peat team was not better than wat Lebrun had and he only one 2 😂😂 this is laughable my guy nice try
Really the cry baby himself? Look. Hes great. But he would not survive back when basketball was basketball. Someone touches him, hes on the ground. He is a fantastic player. But number 1? Idk
Imma be honest with you bro. The 80s & 90s era don’t wanna see lebron James😂 he would destroy them no diff😂 that man is 6’9 260 of pure muscle 😂 be real. & bro folks say the game isn’t physical that’s in the regular season in the playoffs they get busy
Curry is not better than Isaiah Thomas dude you crazy you just saying he better cause he shit more 3 the game back than wasn’t about shooting 3s cause if it was trust me he can shoot dem he was a better defender, he was better at assist he was a better floor general he set his team mates up better you don’t know wat you talking bout
Bird swept MJ in the playoffs. Beat Zeke, Rodman, Magic, Kareem, Hakeem, etc. and won 3 MVP’s and championships in what was the most competitive era of basketball. But he’s not on the list. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 stop watching basketball. You’re wasting your life. Bird would make Lebron literally cry actual tears for a triple team because the double isn’t working.
What is a bag? I'm serious.MJ could get anywhere on the court, and get to his spots without over dribbling. So a bag means cute. F*CK all that wasted dribbling. MJ got str8 to the bizness Kids say the darndest things 😂
Listen Jordan east was tough and the only reason why lebron is better is because when its crunch time Jordan keeps shooting middya while lebron is shooting Threes😂 and getting and one's
Larry Bird is the only player in NBA history to shoot better than 50-40-90 four straight years while averaging over 28 PPG. Only two other players in NBA history have ever shot better than 50-40-90 in a season even once and none four straight seasons. Had Larry's chronic injured back injury not occurred, there is no telling how many more years he would have kept that streak going. Three straight league MVP's. And that's not counting the double digit career rebounding average and being the best passing forward in history. Celts go from 29 wins before his rookie year to 61 wins his rookie year and there was no Parish, McKale, DJ, or Ainge on that team, just the same guys who won only 29 plus Larry Bird. Greatest one year win improvement by ANY team in NBA history and it came because of the addition of a rookie. It proved that Bird carrying a bunch of no-name players at Indiana State to a undefeated season, slaying one giant after another during March madness until that 1979 NCAA championship game was no fluke. What he did at sad sack Indiana State has never been repeated and what he did his rookie year at (then) sad sack Boston has never been repeated. There is a reason for that, a very precise reason...BECAUSE NO ONE SINCE HAS BEEN AS GOOD AS BIRD AND THEREFORE COULDN'T DO THOSE THINGS AND DIDN'T DO THOSE THINGS. You will never see another Larry Joe Bird. In fact, think about what an in pain, old, chronic back injured with a compressed nerve root in his back, 12 weeks away from his last NBA game, Larry Bird did on March 15, 1992. On March 15, 1992 the Western Conference leading Portland Trailblazers had a game in Boston on a Sunday in prime time. Bird didn't have many decent days that last couple years especially, but on this day, either he fought the pain especially hard or his back game him some small respite. That March 15, 1992 49 points scored that day by an old broken down Larry Bird was the most points with a triple double in the 1990's in the entire NBA. It wasn't until 2015 until anyone had a triple double with that many points or more. That's 23 years. In fact, you had to go back to 1975 where Kareem Abdul Jabbar had 50 and a triple double to find a previous triple double game that exceeded it. The 1980's? Nobody reached at least 49 points with a triple double in the 1980's. Two guys came close in the 1980's: In the 1980's a fellow named Michael Jordan had 48 and a triple double, and another fellow named Larry Bird had 47 and a triple double.😊 Bird also had a game against Portland in the mid 1980's where he scored 49, and he scored his first 26 points of that game LEFT HANDED, and he was a right handed shooter. Why did he do that? Because he could. There will never be another Larry Joe Bird.
I skimmed through. I’ll read it all in the morning. But what about the only all time great to have MULTIPLE all time HORRIBLE finals performances 🤣🤣😭😭 (Larry bird)
Some of these comments are disrespecting LeBron, to act like he isn't top 5 or even top 10 is insane. That said, I'm surprised that Larry Bird isn't in the top 10. In his peak he was widely considered better than Magic. He only had 9 healthy years but in that stretch he was 4th (as a rookie), 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd and 2nd in MVP voting. Was first team all nba every season and had multiple 50, 40, 90 seasons. I get that the longevity isn't as good as some other greats. But I think Bird had a top 4 peak along with MJ, Shaq and LeBron
I respect that opinion! But Larry chocked a lot as well! & I have bird 11. Steph passed him 2 years ago. But I respect it I jus don’t see who comes out. Maybe wilt for Larry because wilt is just subjective you know? You respect what he did or you don’t
@@uhhswifty That is true, Bird did have some dissapointing playoff performances. To make it clear I would never put Bird above MJ, LeBron or Kareem. But I would have to remove someone for Bird. And while it sucks to remove anyone because they all have good top 10 arguments, it would probably be Curry, Shaq or Kobe for me. If you look at Curry for example, he only has 4 first team all nba selections. Bird got 9 in just his 9 first peak seasons
@ZtarOZ I respect that! I can’t move curry tho! His last chip showed he was a winner! Bird also had stacked trams & curry wok twice with out Stacked teams! And the first unanimous mvp ! Bird vs curry is a great argument! Bird over Kobe is ehhhh bird over shaq no no way not at alll but I feel you
@@uhhswifty yeah 40 yrs old and still Disrespectfull, and btw they also saying hes 38 39 40 still doing things like in his prime, but when being LeWalkout ur reasoning is his age 🤣 i dont care about the dapping, it leaving while ur teammates is still playing 🤣 u dont anything to Justify that
1 Michael Jordan 2 Kobe Bryant 3 Bill Russell 4 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 Larry Bird 6 Magic Johnson 7 Wilt Chamberlain 8 Shaquille O'Neal 9 Hakeem Olajuwon 10 Tim Duncan 11 Stephen Curry
@@uhhswifty 100% real. More real than the false media narratives the public is shown everyday. Like you claim, I've been watching NBA basketball for 20+ years.
Espn had poll not long time ago who is the greats basketball player %75 vote for Mj and %25 vote for your number one Mr james everboy know who is the better you dont have to kill your self for nonsence reason. when he was playing in east who was front of him raptor new franchise and every body knew how weak is the east. when you come to west you just swept few times how many times you swept in final you are not for championship he just looking for something else he scores the most he play 20 seaon and so on champoinship is for greats people not him.
If Brons the goat, and surpassed MJs goat standard, tell me what is the new standard Bron set? You cannot tell anyone with a straight face that the bar Bron would set would be higher than what MJ set. Even KD is saying why he doesnt have a goat case. Hes really saying that because Brons getting his. In terms of greatness, MJ blows Bron away. However always enjoy watching vids of these topics.
Lebrons longevity & ability to adjust. & not only that the level of all around play is unmatched. & to come down 3-1 on the best team ever is crazy. Lebron is just a better player man. & scored 40k. It’s on a newer lvl
I dont think hes better than MJ, and I also think Brons accomplishments are not enough to put over MJs career. And thats blindly giving that Bron take full credit at face value without even going into the context of those things. Also I thought this list was about 10 greatest NBA players, which is why you had Curry below Magic on this list despite you saying Currys better. You bash MJs comp, but not Magics? Magic like Bron played in an easier conference. So if you put Lebron above MJ, how do you put Steph under Magic at the same time? And Magic had Kareem too. People bash Steph for having KD for 2 rings, which is rightly so but still. You say longevity for Lebron, but Stephs longevity blows Magics away. I mean his primes basically as long as Magics career. So why does Lebron get the benefits and excuses where others dont? Lebron gets all these narratives where its obvious they all dont add up. If hes the best the leagues ever seen, you simply dont fail with the help hes had during the time hes had such help. Failing a few times he could get let off the hook for, but 4-6 is unacceptable when in an easier conference and putting teams in your favor. Its not that hes lot 6 finals either. Its that he lost more than hes won in the brightest stage while putting teams in his favor. His leadership is weak to get over any opposition and thats one of his greatest flaws. He already needs the help around him rather than pushing lesser players to be the best they can be. I mean while getting dusted in the finals, his coach saw him on the bench filing his finger nails. I mean Lebrons got this new podcast, and so far it just seems like hes trying so hard to protect his legacy. Why if your the goat? He says he wants his respect too. Again, why say that if your the goat? I think Bron knows hes capable in terms of tangible things, but hes taken shortcuts, and knows hes never met MJs standard. Lebrons the perfect case of how important the intangible things are. Thats my take on it.
@NSavvy17 I respect the top part. If you think mjs better/ greater that’s fine. As long as lebron is 2. & yea this is the top 10 greatest. But this list takes in account your greatness + who’s better. & you can make can argument based on just greatness that lebron is greater. He’s breaking records every other day. Not even jus longevity records. Single game records, season records. All type of crap in year 21. You say “4-6 is unacceptable” brother name the finals that you swap him out & put in mj (or any other player who ever lived) they change the outcome of those losses besides 2011 I give you that one. But 2007 cmon bro it was lebron vs the spurs. No help. 2014 again lebron vs the spurs. No help d wade & bosh were hurt & everyone else was horrible. 2015 lebron vs the warriors. 2017 & 18 played the best team ever & played em in 2018 with no help. Bro stop being delusional & saying 4-6 bro. You know good n well every other player in history would be at LEAST 5-5 in all Lebrons finals. You know that for a FACT. & tbh maybe still 4-6 because of the 2016 warriors a lot of people aren’t beating that team or the 2013 spurs. & saying lebron dosnt make teammates better is so crazy that’s insane. Literally eveyrone who’s played with him talks about how he makes them better it’s just the pressure they feel with playing with an all time great. And performing is what they don’t like. Stop that bro
These are how many times these players led the league in a statistical category. Also back in the day certain things like blocks werent recorded than. (Steals, points, assists, rebounds, blocks) Wilt- 19 times MJ- 13 times Kareem- 6 times Lebron- twice So youd take Longevity records over this? And Lebrons not even top 10 in this compartement either. If someone is labeled as faster stronger better, this is alarming. Is it not Lebrons CASE practically? Somethings not adding up. And this dudes clouded with PED investigations as well. However, innocent until guilty. And about the 4-6 thing, why do you think MJ fans talk about the 6 rings? Its because the how. How MJ got his 6 vs how Lebron got his any of his are vastly different. Why? because its 2 different paths and standards. 1 stuck it out, while another stacked the deck and hopped. And whats bad is that the deck stacking one, is that it has less rings.. The 6 losses are just insult to injury. AND losing more than you won is the cherry on top. This is why its unacceptable to try and say hes greater. Hes simply not. The guy your supporting even has his doubts. The dudes doing a podcast rn to protect his legacy. Its why he "wants his respect to." Hes got insecurity on the subject no question.
I mean how could you say MJ played without competition? Weakest era? Come on now. Dont get me wrong, Lebron is great but definitely not the greatest. The greatest thing about Lebron which in my opinion will never be eclipsed by anyone else is his longevity. But other than that, he's just second fiddle to the GOAT. Why do you think he's still playing until now? Because he has not caught up yet with the ghost he's chasing😂
I turn 22 in June 1. 2. Umm that’s like saying your smarter at math then me because you studied it first😂 when I was one of the smartest math students in north Alabama history 😂 but sure bro. I guess your age some how matters 😂 Ik it has some weight because you understand how iconic of an impact these people had on a level I don’t. Still dosnt take away the film, still dosnt take away the stats, still dosnt take away the my understanding of how basketball works. At all
@@uhhswifty yeah I heard you. Lebron fans need to accept that for some people - the top 2 guys are MJ/Bron - and for some fans 6-0 will always trump 4-6. Just as MJ fans need to accept that for some Lebron fans - Lebron’s best ever longevity will be the deciding factor. The 6-0 goes for MJ v Lebron - not MJ v Russell. That’s because Lebron is in MJ’s class as an individual player/talent - Bill Russell is not. If MJ/Lebron had 11 rings the goat debate would be finished forever - forever goat they’d be. Russell - individually - isn’t in that class. Sorry. Having said all that - I actually think your list is really good. Nothing that can’t really be justified. Nothing too mental. Very solid list. I suspect mine would look something like yours.
@@uhhswifty no, it didn't. because you can't erase that stain from his resume. he gave up on himself and his team. and it wasn't the first time in his career it's happened. he also had some head scratching performances the year before that, against Boston. he's great, but MJ tops him in virtually every category.
Your top 10 is wack. Everything is out of order. Go back to basketball school
Well bud what’s yours
Keep your subjective opinions on the side, young man. Not worth anymore of my time. Your debate of MJ & Lebronski has already been answered. Lebron comes of the bench & sits at the end of the game, because he cannot be trusted to make a free throw or win a game
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@uhhswifty This is his opinion, kid. Don't like it? Tough. Mature up kid.
Lebron is barely in the top 10. Go back to your history lessons. Cheeks
You missed out Larry Bird ....... And LeBron is way too high ....... All those years studying the game since the age of 11, were clearly a waste of time.
Please tell me who bird is replacing on that list? & bird is 11. Steph passed him 2 years ago. & lebron is 2 high? Brother what😭 lebron has an avg placement on top 50 players of all times list of a 1.9 avg placement but he’s 2 high😭😭😭. Lebron & Jordan are universally known in the unbias & professional sports community to be 1 or 2. This lebron hate has to stop bro
@@uhhswifty I'd leave Duncan out of the Top10, and where I place LeBron depends upon the criteria. If we're talking individual contests in a one v one pick up game, then he's probably Top 5, but if we're talking building a team to win NBA championships, then he's in the 6,7,8 region.
Dude please stop stop stop😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭if you said this on TV you would be banned 😭😭😭😭😭😭 brother please stop 😭😭😭
now that he's 13 i think he's he's still screwing his time off
He not looking at white players.
Wilt is much better than Shaq. .
Lol how old are you? After saying magic played against the greats and then saying mj played in the weakest era 🤯, james clutch?? Shaq came closest after saying karim could be no1??? How many players in James's era in your top 10 mr objective 😅😂😂😂
How tf is Shaq above Duncan or Kobe both have more rings , more all defensive teams , more all nba teams , Kobe has more all time points , Duncan has more mvps
Um because for like 5 years Shaq was the most unguardable player ever. & his playoff numbers were unheard of besides wilt
Every gm ever would pick prime Shaq over both of them
Everyone would have picked Shaq over Duncan when they were both in the league. Pretty simple.
don't forget THE MAILMAN
Lost me in the intro when he said unbiased then every person he said in my opinion. If I wasn't washing dishes I would've switched the video off faster than I did
lebron was really good at winning bronze medals against bums who didn't even make the nba. and losing more times than anyone else with super teams
Smh your delusional man
Awesome & Hilarious. Cannot agree more. Great off the bench
Kobe had 15 ppg in 2000 because jalen rose intentionally stepped on his ankle in game 3. Kobe played less than 5 mins in that game and had 2 points. Kobe also should’ve won at least 3 mvps but was black listed by the nba media after his rape allegations. I would argue Kobe was the best player in the nba from 2003 til 2010. Not delusional, just facts. You are probably younger than 25 so I will forgive you for your ignorance. Kobe is #2 all time behind only Jordan
Brother I’m sorry to tell you no one shares that opinion. The only people who put Kobe that high are bias people. Kobe was my HERO I LOVE KOBE BRYANT. & I’m sorry scoring 2 points in 1 game does not drop your avg 50000 pts bro😭 he jus had a terrible series he shot 35% from the field & got carried. it’s okay bro. I grew up watching Afro Kobe btw.
@@uhhswifty lol I’m the only one who shares that opinion? How about Allen iverson, KD, tmac, sga? I think I’d rather take the opinions of actual ballers over your opinion champ 👍 Charles Barkley also recently said Kobe is better than bron. You Bron fan boys are the most DELUSIONAL fan base, if ray Allen and Kyrie Irving don’t hit big shots Bron would be 2 and 8 in finals. You think switching teams every 4 years to chase superteams is admirable ? At least Kobe got 5 rings with 1 team. In the early 2000s Kobe had shaq but Kobe was still a top 5 player in the league at 22 years old, y’all talk about him like he was some bum when he was averaging 29ppg in the 2001 playoffs, in an era where teams actually played defence.
@papaproduction 1. Folks
Who say that have bias opinions. Analyst are purely studiers of the game with no bias opinion. They can have bias opinions but most don’t. NBA players hVe bias opinions. & jus cause you play the game at a high lvl don’t mean you understand the game more then an analyst who strictly just focus on everything about the game. 2. Look up top 10 player list Kobe Is never ever ever ever ever ever ever on any professional list ever top 5 😭 it’s known on sports shows to be embarrassing to have Kobe top 5😭😭😭😭😭 you literally don’t even understand how delusional you sound😭 like dawg go on first take & say this you’ll never be allowed to show your face anywhere again😭 you’ll have to change your name or you’ll get clowned 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@uhhswifty pretty sure there’s a guy who invented first take by the name of skip bayless who puts Kobe over lebron. Not sure why my last comment got deleted maybe cos I swore but anyway, good luck building a fan base with your bias opinions. You barely have 2k views on this video 😉
Lol okay? Skip Bayless is a hater😭 he is literally the only person who puts Kobe above lebron & the only person with Kobe in his top 5😭😭😭😭 THE ONLY ONE😭 I WATCH EVERYSHOW😭 if anyone says Kobe is better then lebron everyone clowns them😭 & look at Lebrons #s in 2018 & he did that with a broken hand btw 😭😭 yea okay bubba 😭.
You said kobe was 8th but Lebron number 1? 🤣🤦♂️if bron the best how come he only has 4 rings in 21+years? If he’s the best why hasn’t he had 3peat? Kobe fans are delusional to put kobe at 2nd behind MJ. Was close to achieving his second 3peat btw and won with one other allstar while bron cant win with the most stacked teams that he puts together 🤣 bron is an alltime great, but sorry he aint no king unless u r counting turnovers and flopping lol he a duke or a noble; he’s definitely royalty but nowhere near the top. He hasnt played defense consistently in ten years🤣
Top 3 are MJ, KAREEM (6 mvp, 6 rings )the Lebron.
Honestly LeBron comes at top 10. This is just my opinion.
not everyone can make it as a youtuber
What?
My favorite comment of all time
Hell yeah! No brains
You are extremely bright
If The king of alphabet or a todays players in your smoking crack l have 7 decades of ball an played 40 youf list sucks!
Bro you jus wrong
@uhhswifty HaHa you don't know l was born n into the game my father worked for Celts in 60s you know nothing you started watching at 11 l started at birth I'm now 66 you have 0 knowledge, your podcast means nothing! I also worked an played with the Rockets from 79 to 97! Keep dreaming you have no game!
Blocking my reply your a joke!
@@uhhswifty what a list from a moron!
Lols magic Johnson better than kobe and shaq and bill Russell your insane man..😂
Again best & greatness is 2 different things he had a better career YES that is jus a FACT everyone ever ever on every list ever has him 4 or 5
yes he's beter than Kobe and shaq, you have a problem with that? Kobe's 44,7% fg is weak as hell.
Actually Magic Johnson should be in the top 5 because he was the one that saved the NBA.
This era of basketball is the weakest and softes Era in Basketball History There Is No Defense thats why scoring is up and its by far the softest Era in sports History its ugly to watch at times most of yhe game is a 3-point contest and viewership is way down since the 80s and the 90s
Your wrong. 1 the no defense is a misconception. They don’t play defense in the regular season. They play playoff physical hard defense. You’d know that if you knew the game. 2 bench players would start on championchip teams back then brother 😂
Not only the basketball but also the fans that say lbj is the goat. No one on the first 9 says they are the goat except 4 this man wearing the jersey number of player he said his idol and his goat, he said it before until dumb fans pushes him to be better than mj.
@@harot6579 bro everyone talks about how mj says it behind closed doors but okay lol
@@uhhswiftyHe's actually somewhat right. The NBA has gotten a lot more strict than it was back then.
This kid gotta be 18 or younger
Been a student of the game since mid-sixties, which may be a few more years than you. Watched everybody from Russell on.
Comparing different positions is comparing apples and oranges. Different skill set and roles involved. Also, I evaluate based on individual performance, not team performance. Third, I heavily discount awards; since they are voted on and thus heavily subjective. The only exception is the 1st and 2nd all NBA defense teams, since there are relatively few metrics to go by.
Your top ten list is plausible. But what constitutes greatness? Offense? Or offense plus defense? I try to consider both.
I'd easily put Stockton or Chris Paul ahead of Curry at PG:
Points generated (scoring + assists) per 36 minutes: Curry Stockton 39.5, Stockton 38.7, Paul 38.4
NBA 1st or 2nd team defense: Curry 0, Stockton 5x, Paul 9x
As shooting guard, Kobe's offensive production is pretty far down the list, but he was one of the best on defense. So I'll give you that one.
I'd also replace Shaq with Hakeem. Shaq's offensive number a little better and rebounds the same, but Hakeem was all-NBA defense 9x compared to 3x for Shaq. Plus Shaw couldn't shoot FTs.
Of course, if Jockic, Doncic, and Giannis maintain their continue current pace, they could easily end up in the top ten.
1) Michael Jordan 2) Kareem Abdul Jabber 3) Magic Johnson 4) Kobe Bryant 5) LeBron James 6) Larry Bird 7) Bill Russell 8) Tim Duncan 9) Hakeem Olajuwon 10) Shaq ❤❤❤❤
I get it you got your own opinion & I respect it! But this list is horrible dawg 🤣
Mj 1 get outta here with this list completely disrespectful LeBron played in the leastern conference finals then couldn't finish the job your goat is 4-6 in finals in appearances also your stats you say that lebum is more clutch is false they took a sample size for 1 game a year if you look at the totally lebum is 20% on clutchness MJ is 50% you obviously don't know what your talking about
LeBron the greatest? Look at his stats. 4 rings. Kobe, Duncan and Magic have 5, Kareem and MJ have 6 rings, and Russell 11. Kobe and MJ would tear LeBron up in a one and one battle. LeBron doesn't have that killer instinct like Kobe and MJ to win a game and a Championship. Kareem has higher scoring stats than LeBron. To me I don't think you have really seen the past generations of the NBA to determine who the greatest player really is!
He'll Robert Horry has more rings than that dude 😆
Yeah. You’re a kid who really doesn’t know the game with this list. Waste of time watching this.
It's not that deep at all. 21 years only 4 tittles,Only led the league in any catagory twice(once in scoring, once in assit) in 21 years mr.pass 1st only 1assit title😂10 scoring titles 3x steals leader
MJ COULD HAVE EASILY WON 8 CHAMPIONSHIPS
In the weakest era😭
@@uhhswiftyleastern conference lebum LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
lol this man says the weakest era. LeBron is a pussy. Check the all time free throws record bro this generation of basketball is so overrated the 90s was a dog fight
9 is easy actually, probably the 4th and 5th is the 94&95 And the easy 9th ring is the 99 when the bulls continue together
@@uhhswifty they played a little thing called defense, your era gets a tech just for staring..soft as f**k 😂 by the way, did you see the All-Star game this year? Weak as f**k! Back in the 90’s, they were actually competitive, not lazy.
YOU CRAZY 😂😂😂
Russell, Chamberlain, Jabar, Jordan, Curry, Duncan, Bryant, Magic,, James, after this I've got nothing
SORRY BUT YOUR LIST IS VERY WRONG: SHAQ OVER BRYANT? NO. MAGIC BEHIND WILT? NO. JORDAN BEHIND LEBRON IS BECAUSE YOU THINK AS A FAN. THAT'S GREAT BUT DONT PRETEND TO BE OBJECTIVE WITH A LIST. BETTER SAY MY PERSONAL LIST.
Bro this list is literally like almost very much accurate to every professional list there is 😂 your jus delusional lmao & Shaq is over Kobe what nobody thinks Kobe was better then shaq😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 no REAL person with an unbias opinion thinks Kobe is better then Shaq bubba😭
Wilt over magic? Na your done 😭😭🤣🤣🤣😭😭
@@uhhswifty Sure accurate according to you maybe. Can you be any more of a moron?
@@uhhswifty That is old data, history and all stats tells you Shaq is not even Top Ten list
😭😭ur done
No Larry bird, no Hakeem Olajuwon just proved you haven’t watched enough basketball. Shaq? They had to sit him at the end of games because his free throw shooting was a liability.
Kobe is way too low and LeBron is way too high. And where the hell is Larry Bird? This sounds like a list a 10 year old would make like come on.
I mean this list is close to like every professional analyst list ever so igs 😂 bird is 11 lol Steph passed em & um no Kobe is def 8-12😭 your jus delusional & don’t know the game clearly. Kobe on top 10 list on google has an avg placement of 8 & lebron has an avg placement of 1.9 lol but okay
Absolutely crazy. It's Mike and not close
Saying it’s not close is insane
To think it's not is by far worst. MJ's abilities are far superior to Lebron's
Wilt Chamberlain Magic and Russell all played when everyone at their position was 3 to 4 inches smaller then them ! When ur 7 foot and u are rebounding against someone who is 6 foot 8 ur going to win!
Bro u smoking on MJ @ #2 MJ played in the hardest Era. What team did LBJ beat like Bad Boy Pistons. U delusional
What's the difference between best, and greatest?
you call someone delusional ??
Starters:
Payton, Jordan, James, Garnett, O'Neal
Reserves:
DJ, Kobe, Pippen, Antetokounmpo, Gilmore
Hey Swiftee, I have no problem with your top 10, hell, they are as solid as any put together.But Bruh, never call any players who played in this league a Bum. You and Gilbert Arenas for people who claim to know so much and are so knowledgeable about the history of this league should know better than to show such blatant disrespect to any of players who made it and played in it and helped shape it into what it is today, from any era. I don't know if you played ball, but you didn't make it to the league . Just because you watched a few games over the years doesn't give you the right or credibility to make such ill-mannerd and disrespectful remarks about anyone past or present or to judge any players from back in the day. That you never or had the opportunity to watch , so don't assume to know my era cause you don't, at least not well enough to show them such disrespect by calling them bums especially Gilbert Arenas who had his moment and blew it like a bum and feels he's qualified to throw shade on players he's not even worthy of holding their jockstraps. Yeah, they had their issues but the players in that era was the best and skilled of any era of the NBA ever had and could more than hold their own against any of today's rendition and every team had at least one or more allstars or future HOF'er on their roster and the league & games were competitive with defense, so much so they had to change the rules so the scorers of today could do so more easily like your goat LBJ uncontested. So much so that You as a export would've recognized and showen that respect, because it was earned not given a long time ago. Bruh,I'm old school, in my 60's and started watching the NBA and became a lifelong fan of the sport & league in 1970. You would think such a expert on the NBA would've done more research before choosing such a blatant slap in your face ass word to describe the players of that era. Respect Bruh, to you and any new school expert who thinks calling out any era of the NBA other than this present rendition needs to show more of when referring to the history of the league. Because it just didn't start in then2000's it's been around and you young bucks should put some well deserved respect on all the players name that made it more possible and easier for the players today including LBJ ya'll so openly worship simply because you can witness them in real time. And think they're the best thing since ice cream & cake.
Kobe should be in top 5
1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Kobe
5. Bird
6. Magic
7. Russ
8. Duncan
9. Lebron
10. Hakeem
11. Shaq
12. Curry
13. KD
14. Big O
15. Dr J
Goat
Kobe fans are delusional? And Ledope fans are not?
MJ, Kobe, Jabbar, Bird, Magic, Russel, Wilt, Shaq, the Dream....Ledope notbeven top ten.
kobe's overrated now coz he died.
If they are the worst team how did they get to the finals
Not even one white guy? Really? Not even Bird or West at 9 or 10? What a waste of time.
How can you say that Curry is better than Isiah Thomas and Larry Bird? Steph Curry is easily tied with Bird. And Kobe should be in the top 5 at best. Your list is way off. I mean. I'm a huge Kobe fan. But he isn't THE best.
When I are "MICHAEL JORDAN #2"..... wutcha talkin bout youngbuck.....GLAD U GAVE A LIL..... respect to ACTUAL greats..... RESPECT THE BLACK MAMBA THO
Starts video saying Steph is better PG than Magic......viewer ends video
"I'm not your average Joe's" my ass
I jus stated unbias objective facts lol but okay. Lebron or mj is subjective because objectively they’re pretty equal.
@@uhhswifty i just loved on what you said about the kobe fans being delusional and ignorant fan base, My question is what about the lebron fan base?
@@uhhswifty well gonna accept the fact right, it's a informative video, I'm not even gonna argue with it, keep up the good work man
Love the video man lebron is too good
Goat & a king
At whinning,and flopping, and getting coaches fired, lebron's #1😂
When did you watch bill play😂😂😂?
Boo boo boo. As in the MOST IDIOTIC choice of top 10 EVER... DON'T BOAST that you know basketball well. IT AIN'T DOODS! James maybe your goat. You're right actually. James is the 🐐 goat of: flopping, missed playoffs, mistakes, crying... Definitely 🐐 goat of boasting... Whoin the right mine would say I AM THE GOAT! When Jordan don't think he is.. Yet most players voted Jordan as the G.O.A.T... old and new generation alike like Curry, Durant, Rose, etc...
Larry Bird?
Russell played with 6 Hall of famers
Jordan never flop on the basketball court LeBron James flop he cried he complained like a little girl if Jordan went to win the college and came straight to the NBA he would have probably play 20 years too come on now let's be real about it
KD has 2B N on that above Curry
You are a funny guy 😂
It’s jus objective man
It's not even close!
LeBron 20 % in the clutch
Mj 50%!
@dg832 bro I’m tellin you right now idk where you got those numbers from brother but lebron is the clutchest nba player EVER in the playoffs lebron is 48% to Jordan’s 55% so imma gone nip that in the bud right there
Magic is not a better basketball player then Jordan but he is still all time great he is magic
I respect your list but you never seen mj play remember kobe, mj is a better version of kobe plus back then the NBA was much tougher not like today NBA the only reason lebron gotten to the finals so much because the east was garbage come on you need to do your research
What time u didn't even put the first of the game players in the vote not even close
So with your logic the buffalo bills is the greatest football ever they went to 4 straight super bowls but did not when one of dem so that mean they was better than the cowboys of the 90s
Dude you give Jordan dat heat I promise you they when will when da not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 but 7 rings Lebrun promise keep in mind Jordan first 3 peat team was not like da team Lebrun had and Jordan 2nd 3 peat team was not better than wat Lebrun had and he only one 2 😂😂 this is laughable my guy nice try
Really the cry baby himself? Look. Hes great. But he would not survive back when basketball was basketball. Someone touches him, hes on the ground. He is a fantastic player. But number 1? Idk
Imma be honest with you bro. The 80s & 90s era don’t wanna see lebron James😂 he would destroy them no diff😂 that man is 6’9 260 of pure muscle 😂 be real. & bro folks say the game isn’t physical that’s in the regular season in the playoffs they get busy
And okay sure you can say Jordan’s better but Lebron is no question 1 or 2 that’s literally a fact no one else can be over him but Jordan. Objectively
No DJ please😢
Curry is not better than Isaiah Thomas dude you crazy you just saying he better cause he shit more 3 the game back than wasn’t about shooting 3s cause if it was trust me he can shoot dem he was a better defender, he was better at assist he was a better floor general he set his team mates up better you don’t know wat you talking bout
are you talking about " GENERAL JOKER" AND HIS 4 STAR GROUP ? THAT ARE SOLID GOLD (NUGGETS)
Bird swept MJ in the playoffs. Beat Zeke, Rodman, Magic, Kareem, Hakeem, etc. and won 3 MVP’s and championships in what was the most competitive era of basketball. But he’s not on the list. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 stop watching basketball. You’re wasting your life. Bird would make Lebron literally cry actual tears for a triple team because the double isn’t working.
What is a bag? I'm serious.MJ could get anywhere on the court, and get to his spots without over dribbling. So a bag means cute. F*CK all that wasted dribbling. MJ got str8 to the bizness Kids say the darndest things 😂
Listen Jordan east was tough and the only reason why lebron is better is because when its crunch time Jordan keeps shooting middya while lebron is shooting Threes😂 and getting and one's
Orrrrrr lebron is jus better 😂 no knock on mj
No, knock it off
Look man as long as you understand lebron is 1 or 2 and that’s the only 2 places we can be I’m fine with your opinion
It like listening to Klutch Sports bs.
You can't say best NBA player of all time, because the league still exist,all time means all time! 🤨🤔😮💨
Nobody is passing MJ though
You are saying you are objective where is the defense in lebron time?? Is that objective or palin bias? Ha ha think man think
Well Everyone has Their Own Opinions Right 😂
This was painful to watch, I shall never do that to myself again.
Well you can be delusional & bias. You bein uneducated isn’t my problem
@@uhhswifty that's disrespectful and it's not cute, I'm happy to report you.
Larry Bird is the only player in NBA history to shoot better than 50-40-90 four straight years while averaging over 28 PPG.
Only two other players in NBA history have ever shot better than 50-40-90 in a season even once and none four straight seasons. Had Larry's chronic injured back injury not occurred, there is no telling how many more years he would have kept that streak going.
Three straight league MVP's.
And that's not counting the double digit career rebounding average and being the best passing forward in history.
Celts go from 29 wins before his rookie year to 61 wins his rookie year and there was no Parish, McKale, DJ, or Ainge on that team, just the same guys who won only 29 plus Larry Bird.
Greatest one year win improvement by ANY team in NBA history and it came because of the addition of a rookie.
It proved that Bird carrying a bunch of no-name players at Indiana State to a undefeated season, slaying one giant after another during March madness until that 1979 NCAA championship game was no fluke.
What he did at sad sack Indiana State has never been repeated and what he did his rookie year at (then) sad sack Boston has never been repeated.
There is a reason for that, a very precise reason...BECAUSE NO ONE SINCE HAS BEEN AS GOOD AS BIRD AND THEREFORE COULDN'T DO THOSE THINGS AND DIDN'T DO THOSE THINGS.
You will never see another Larry Joe Bird.
In fact, think about what an in pain, old, chronic back injured with a compressed nerve root in his back, 12 weeks away from his last NBA game, Larry Bird did on March 15, 1992.
On March 15, 1992 the Western Conference leading Portland Trailblazers had a game in Boston on a Sunday in prime time.
Bird didn't have many decent days that last couple years especially, but on this day, either he fought the pain especially hard or his back game him some small respite.
That March 15, 1992 49 points scored that day by an old broken down Larry Bird was the most points with a triple double in the 1990's in the entire NBA. It wasn't until 2015 until anyone had a triple double with that many points or more. That's 23 years.
In fact, you had to go back to 1975 where Kareem Abdul Jabbar had 50 and a triple double to find a previous triple double game that exceeded it.
The 1980's?
Nobody reached at least 49 points with a triple double in the 1980's.
Two guys came close in the 1980's: In the 1980's a fellow named Michael Jordan had 48 and a triple double, and another fellow named Larry Bird had 47 and a triple double.😊
Bird also had a game against Portland in the mid 1980's where he scored 49, and he scored his first 26 points of that game LEFT HANDED, and he was a right handed shooter. Why did he do that?
Because he could.
There will never be another Larry Joe Bird.
I skimmed through. I’ll read it all in the morning. But what about the only all time great to have MULTIPLE all time HORRIBLE finals performances 🤣🤣😭😭 (Larry bird)
shaq and curry better than magic? In what?
Kobe & Duncan both were greater than bron, not to mention Bird
Delete this comment bro
I'll give it to you tried young man you took a shot and air balled that being said the video was decent but the list was terrible
Some of these comments are disrespecting LeBron, to act like he isn't top 5 or even top 10 is insane. That said, I'm surprised that Larry Bird isn't in the top 10. In his peak he was widely considered better than Magic. He only had 9 healthy years but in that stretch he was 4th (as a rookie), 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd and 2nd in MVP voting. Was first team all nba every season and had multiple 50, 40, 90 seasons. I get that the longevity isn't as good as some other greats. But I think Bird had a top 4 peak along with MJ, Shaq and LeBron
I respect that opinion! But Larry chocked a lot as well! & I have bird 11. Steph passed him 2 years ago. But I respect it I jus don’t see who comes out. Maybe wilt for Larry because wilt is just subjective you know? You respect what he did or you don’t
@@uhhswifty That is true, Bird did have some dissapointing playoff performances. To make it clear I would never put Bird above MJ, LeBron or Kareem. But I would have to remove someone for Bird. And while it sucks to remove anyone because they all have good top 10 arguments, it would probably be Curry, Shaq or Kobe for me.
If you look at Curry for example, he only has 4 first team all nba selections. Bird got 9 in just his 9 first peak seasons
@ZtarOZ I respect that! I can’t move curry tho! His last chip showed he was a winner! Bird also had stacked trams & curry wok twice with out Stacked teams! And the first unanimous mvp ! Bird vs curry is a great argument! Bird over Kobe is ehhhh bird over shaq no no way not at alll but I feel you
LeBron is good but he not better then Kobe at least from what I have seen from him he is an all time great
the goat has 6 rings not 6 lose
KAREEM 6 RINGS 6 MVPS SAME AS MJ
ur no 1 is walking out of the game mins left in the GAME, when losing DISRESPECTFUL
He’s 40. And he’s lebron. If anyone who ever lived could do that it’s him and it’s regular season they rarely dap it up in the regular season.
@@uhhswifty yeah 40 yrs old and still Disrespectfull, and btw they also saying hes 38 39 40 still doing things like in his prime, but when being LeWalkout ur reasoning is his age 🤣 i dont care about the dapping, it leaving while ur teammates is still playing 🤣 u dont anything to Justify that
@butchapolinar2305 I’m sorry man when you’ve done what he’s done you have that right. I’ve never heard anyone have a problem with that
You don't know what you are talking about. You know nothing about NBA History. This ers is so SISSIFIED.
I’m guessing this might be a spoof …funny mind
1 Michael Jordan
2 Kobe Bryant
3 Bill Russell
4 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
5 Larry Bird
6 Magic Johnson
7 Wilt Chamberlain
8 Shaquille O'Neal
9 Hakeem Olajuwon
10 Tim Duncan
11 Stephen Curry
Dope list
😭😭😭😭 your not real
This is the worst list I’ve ever seen😭 if you went on tv & said this was your list dude you would be banned from speakin about sports ever again 😭
@@uhhswifty Provide some actual arguments as to why the list is bad? I'll wait
@@uhhswifty 100% real. More real than the false media narratives the public is shown everyday. Like you claim, I've been watching NBA basketball for 20+ years.
make it make sense
Espn had poll not long time ago who is the greats basketball player %75 vote for Mj and %25 vote for your number one Mr james everboy know who is the better you dont have to kill your self for nonsence reason. when he was playing in east who was front of him raptor new franchise and every body knew how weak is the east. when you come to west you just swept few times how many times you swept in final you are not for championship he just looking for something else he scores the most he play 20 seaon and so on champoinship is for greats people not him.
Where is Larry Bird? And you have Jordon Second? . Ignorance... just ignorance.
Bird vs Steph is your personal preference but I’m sorry Steph is jus better. & bud Jordan vs Lebron is super close. It can go either way.
“Lebron is clutch” 😂🤣 How did he do against the nuggets this year? Missed a wide open three that could’ve gave them the win?! 🗑️ 🗑️ 🗑️
If Brons the goat, and surpassed MJs goat standard, tell me what is the new standard Bron set? You cannot tell anyone with a straight face that the bar Bron would set would be higher than what MJ set. Even KD is saying why he doesnt have a goat case. Hes really saying that because Brons getting his. In terms of greatness, MJ blows Bron away. However always enjoy watching vids of these topics.
Lebrons longevity & ability to adjust. & not only that the level of all around play is unmatched. & to come down 3-1 on the best team ever is crazy. Lebron is just a better player man. & scored 40k. It’s on a newer lvl
I dont think hes better than MJ, and I also think Brons accomplishments are not enough to put over MJs career. And thats blindly giving that Bron take full credit at face value without even going into the context of those things. Also I thought this list was about 10 greatest NBA players, which is why you had Curry below Magic on this list despite you saying Currys better. You bash MJs comp, but not Magics? Magic like Bron played in an easier conference. So if you put Lebron above MJ, how do you put Steph under Magic at the same time? And Magic had Kareem too. People bash Steph for having KD for 2 rings, which is rightly so but still. You say longevity for Lebron, but Stephs longevity blows Magics away. I mean his primes basically as long as Magics career. So why does Lebron get the benefits and excuses where others dont? Lebron gets all these narratives where its obvious they all dont add up. If hes the best the leagues ever seen, you simply dont fail with the help hes had during the time hes had such help. Failing a few times he could get let off the hook for, but 4-6 is unacceptable when in an easier conference and putting teams in your favor. Its not that hes lot 6 finals either. Its that he lost more than hes won in the brightest stage while putting teams in his favor. His leadership is weak to get over any opposition and thats one of his greatest flaws. He already needs the help around him rather than pushing lesser players to be the best they can be. I mean while getting dusted in the finals, his coach saw him on the bench filing his finger nails. I mean Lebrons got this new podcast, and so far it just seems like hes trying so hard to protect his legacy. Why if your the goat? He says he wants his respect too. Again, why say that if your the goat? I think Bron knows hes capable in terms of tangible things, but hes taken shortcuts, and knows hes never met MJs standard. Lebrons the perfect case of how important the intangible things are. Thats my take on it.
@NSavvy17 I respect the top part. If you think mjs better/ greater that’s fine. As long as lebron is 2. & yea this is the top 10 greatest. But this list takes in account your greatness + who’s better. & you can make can argument based on just greatness that lebron is greater. He’s breaking records every other day. Not even jus longevity records. Single game records, season records. All type of crap in year 21. You say “4-6 is unacceptable” brother name the finals that you swap him out & put in mj (or any other player who ever lived) they change the outcome of those losses besides 2011 I give you that one. But 2007 cmon bro it was lebron vs the spurs. No help. 2014 again lebron vs the spurs. No help d wade & bosh were hurt & everyone else was horrible. 2015 lebron vs the warriors. 2017 & 18 played the best team ever & played em in 2018 with no help. Bro stop being delusional & saying 4-6 bro. You know good n well every other player in history would be at LEAST 5-5 in all Lebrons finals. You know that for a FACT. & tbh maybe still 4-6 because of the 2016 warriors a lot of people aren’t beating that team or the 2013 spurs. & saying lebron dosnt make teammates better is so crazy that’s insane. Literally eveyrone who’s played with him talks about how he makes them better it’s just the pressure they feel with playing with an all time great. And performing is what they don’t like. Stop that bro
These are how many times these players led the league in a statistical category. Also back in the day certain things like blocks werent recorded than. (Steals, points, assists, rebounds, blocks)
Wilt- 19 times
MJ- 13 times
Kareem- 6 times
Lebron- twice
So youd take Longevity records over this? And Lebrons not even top 10 in this compartement either. If someone is labeled as faster stronger better, this is alarming. Is it not Lebrons CASE practically? Somethings not adding up. And this dudes clouded with PED investigations as well. However, innocent until guilty.
And about the 4-6 thing, why do you think MJ fans talk about the 6 rings? Its because the how. How MJ got his 6 vs how Lebron got his any of his are vastly different. Why? because its 2 different paths and standards. 1 stuck it out, while another stacked the deck and hopped. And whats bad is that the deck stacking one, is that it has less rings.. The 6 losses are just insult to injury. AND losing more than you won is the cherry on top. This is why its unacceptable to try and say hes greater. Hes simply not. The guy your supporting even has his doubts. The dudes doing a podcast rn to protect his legacy. Its why he "wants his respect to." Hes got insecurity on the subject no question.
You even don't know how to play basketball.... Where you get the guts to post this list... hahaha
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For the sake of content
Based on your freakin opinion
Not on stats, iq, leadership...
You must not kno how the playoffs work lol
Yes,, good job bro,, lebron James the real goat,,❤❤❤
I mean how could you say MJ played without competition? Weakest era? Come on now. Dont get me wrong, Lebron is great but definitely not the greatest. The greatest thing about Lebron which in my opinion will never be eclipsed by anyone else is his longevity. But other than that, he's just second fiddle to the GOAT. Why do you think he's still playing until now? Because he has not caught up yet with the ghost he's chasing😂
Name an era weaker that’s not the 60s
You talk a good game but he is not the goat
I love it when 12 year olds think they know basketball better than anyone else.
I turn 22 in June 1. 2. Umm that’s like saying your smarter at math then me because you studied it first😂 when I was one of the smartest math students in north Alabama history 😂 but sure bro. I guess your age some how matters 😂 Ik it has some weight because you understand how iconic of an impact these people had on a level I don’t. Still dosnt take away the film, still dosnt take away the stats, still dosnt take away the my understanding of how basketball works. At all
8:01 stop
I said by mj fans logic
@@uhhswifty yeah I heard you. Lebron fans need to accept that for some people - the top 2 guys are MJ/Bron - and for some fans 6-0 will always trump 4-6. Just as MJ fans need to accept that for some Lebron fans - Lebron’s best ever longevity will be the deciding factor. The 6-0 goes for MJ v Lebron - not MJ v Russell. That’s because Lebron is in MJ’s class as an individual player/talent - Bill Russell is not. If MJ/Lebron had 11 rings the goat debate would be finished forever - forever goat they’d be. Russell - individually - isn’t in that class. Sorry. Having said all that - I actually think your list is really good. Nothing that can’t really be justified. Nothing too mental. Very solid list. I suspect mine would look something like yours.
Bron is a great player. but you can't choke in the finals and be the GOAT. you just can't.
He chocked 1 time . & that made him become the goat
@@uhhswifty no, it didn't. because you can't erase that stain from his resume. he gave up on himself and his team. and it wasn't the first time in his career it's happened. he also had some head scratching performances the year before that, against Boston. he's great, but MJ tops him in virtually every category.
Weakest era?
Your credibility is gone
No your jus delusional & don’t know the game clearly
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Kobe is better then Jordan and Shaq is greater then Jordan
Lebron fan. Not basketball fan
My boy I have watched like every game played in the last 15 years. Stop that.
LBJ number 1 is a joke, at least number 3. MJ and Wilt much better than him. No Larry here?? And Kobe number 8?? Go back to school boy.
Is it because he's white?
You are paid, its disgusting, how much😂