Ranking The Top 10 Power Forwards In The NBA Right Now... (Offseason 2023)
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- In this video we rank the top ten power forwards in the NBA as things currently stand during the 2023 NBA Offseason... Zion Williamson, Kevin Durant and more discussed
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You can’t have Zion at 3 on this list and then not have Kawhi at 3 on the small forwards list. Zion’s health is just as unreliable if not more.
Exactly... Zion has:
Played 114 Games
Missed 194 Games
He's only available 37% of the
time... Can't help the team when
you're on the sideline injured...
You can't really rank Kawhi who hasn't been relevant since 2019 over Jimmy who has played 2 finals and 1 Ecf over that time. Zion simply doesn't have the same competition on this list.
@@eranhasid7630 Exactly what I was going to say!
@@eranhasid7630You have a point about Leonard, but I'd definitely rank Siakim higher than Zion.
@@eranhasid7630 Zion has all the ability to be great but is closer to be a bust than #3 in the league at this rate, the guy hasn't been healthy enough to become relevant for a real amount of time in the first place.
I want to be wrong, he should be amazing based on when we do see him but he just doesn't seem sustainable with these injuries.
Ngl Lauri played SF majority of the season with Kelly olynyk playing the PF and Kessler at the 5
But he’s still a PF
You can be a “PF” and play “SF” if you have the skill set , or you can play “C” depending on what you’re capable of
The guy makes up his own
positions. Because if Lauri
can be used as PF, then LBJ
should be used as PF too...
His SG list didn't have SGA on
it... SGA is a combo guard...
Also, gimme Jaden McDaniels
at PF over a few of these guys...
Not true. Kessler didn’t start until later in the season. Kelly was the 5 and Lauri the 4. This year with John Collins, he should play the 3 with John at the 4.
@@kushpapikoolface4801Vanderbilt played the 5
Zion should have been an honorable mention I saw a comment that said he played 37 percent of his games or something around that can’t be top 3 he is extremely talented when he plays the pelicans we’re the one seed when he played but he didn’t play much
i rather have pascal than zion, i know i'm gonna get 65 games of good defense and offense from him a year, able to play 39 minutes a game at a crazy fast pace. I have no idea what i'm getting from zion. i rather have the 65 game average from pascal than the 30 games from zion
Real
This right here
and still not gonna make the playoffs
Zion only played 29 games. I
almost got into a Bar Fight for
saying give me:
Ant > Zion, Morant, Lamelo.
I'll take the player that suits up > an injured / suspended guy.
@@HoytKarl love the Ant respect 🤝🏾
Thanks for the video!
Draymond and Aaron Gordon are better than spots 8-10. Also KAT should be here, not on the centers list
was thinknig the same since he completely switched over last year
draymond not better than paolo thats def cap maybe aaron gordon
Kat and Zion dont belong in this list
Kat is a center playing out of position
I wouldn’t want Kat on my pickup team
Since when was KD a PF?
I'm surprised though because all along I know KD as a SF
Last year he was because okogie was the 3
Mobley was missing half those 5 footers.😊
I think khristaps porzingus should’ve at least been a honorable mention
Got him at center cause that’s where he played for. washington.
@@Reqzy10Porzingis is not no center he's a power forward
U absolutely right
They really put Jerami Grant over Aaron Gordan smh
U must don't watch basketball Grant actually carried teams Gordon didn't
@@theetruth8626 "Carried" is a stretch.
@@09lowkey when I lead u carry a team ain't no stretch
@@theetruth8626 Carrying a team to nothing aint impressive lol
@@GeneraIRex but averaging a single single is on a bad team
What’s the over/under on how many games Zion plays? I’m picking 34
36
I'd say 28
broooo that mobley clip 🤣🤣🤣
Oooo Kyle Kuzma as a honorary mention that’s awesome to see
Aaron Gordon disrespect is crazy
Dudes lists are 🗑
Not really, he’s not top 10 pf
He's not top 10.stop it
how is there any disrespect to aaron gordon in this vid
AG>Paolo
Dude, Aaron Gordon was essential in the Nuggets winning this season, way more than MPJ, and you dont even list him? He has to be in the top 5
Is u slow or something who cares about what he done on Denver these guys actually leads their teams Gordon doesn't and he ain't the sidekick to Jokic so he benefitting heavily as a role player
Obligatory markannen is a small forward and starts at sf every night
Lauri isn't a true small forward he's a power forward that played out of position
@theetruth8626
How can you say he plays out of position when he plays the position that suits his playstyle the best? If Bulls as his first team used him wrong that ain't good enough reason.
@@magicofshootingstar5825 because he plays out of position that's why he can't guard no small forwards because he's a power forward that a stretch 3
My man is sleeping on Aaron Gordon and Draymond Green.
Can’t wait to see Alperen as an “Honorable mention” tomorrow 🤞🏾
Yeah he deserves a spot in the top 10 no question
What is Evan Mobley doing at practice in that clip 😅😅
Take Zion off and move either Kuzma or Gordon to #10. The best ability is availability
It ain't the best available. It's who's the better player
@@theetruth8626 but he put kawhi out the top 3 on SF bcz of availability
@@mikefun7482 that's crazy to me to I'm only talking on the power forwards if he don't stick to the same guidelines of what make these players top quality players then u already know he's doing this off his own Bias opinions
dfq is mobley bricking all these layups :D:D:D
You could have picked a different video for Mobley. He was bricking those floaters 😂
A few ppl I question.
But KD, Lauri and even Greek Freak are really big 3's playing the 4 due to their size. They all play SF40-50% of the time exclusively.
No they don't Giannis can play every position but he's mainly the power forward
KD & Lauri are more SFs. Giannis is a legit PF tho. Just because he handles the rock at times doesn't mean he doesn't handle all the traditional PF roles, rim protection, screen setting, interior finishing, post-ups, fill the lane on the break. Giannis does all the tradition PF stuff.
@@09lowkey all of them does just because they label something doesn't mean that's what they is
@@09lowkey the rest just can't do it at a Giannis level that's why he's the best player in the game
@@09lowkey from the time he was drafted he was a forward guard that was convert over due to a growth spurt. He only became a pf, because most 4's can't keep up with and he got muscular. He was doing all the same things as a wing, but at 6'9. He grew 2 inches and gained 50+lbs. He's just unique.
Lauri is a small forward
So is KD
Aron Gordon.... Bro... Disrespect is crazy
Zion is the new Victor Oladipo whom I dub the Avatar. Because when his team needs him most he's gone
Na Randle at 7 is crazy. He was playing through an ankle injury in the playoffs
Except the other time he made playoffs he shot under 30%
@@alexescutia4805 not giving him a pass for that. But that was 2 years ago, we talkin about right now
Idc how talented, how can u put Zion above player who actually play
So you’d rather have an average role player than an all nba caliber player?
im taking Zion cuz even when Pascal did play he still aint make the playoffs
@@christophershelby5485 I'd take a healthy 🏆 A.Gordon > Injured Zion (29 Games)
Gordon was more important in
his role while playing, than Zion
was sitting on the sidelines...
@@HoytKarlzion was clapping cheeks, bro
That's gotta be good for his game 😏🤭
Zion is better those guys that actually played that's why everytime he comes back from injury nobody can stop him
Only thing I don’t understand is not having KAT on this list. I know he’s a Center. But with Gobert he’ll be playing PF.
Lauri is SF
At the start of the season they start vando as PF and olynyk at C
After the trade they move Olynyk at 4 and kessler at 5
I thought kd was a sf
Josh Okogie and Torrey Craig played SF in their lineups
I can't justify leaving Aaron Gordon off this list, he was the champ's 2nd best player the majority of the season and the 3rd best throughout the playoffs. Yet you put Mobley, Randle, Zion (who doesn't play games), and Paulo above him. He just proved he's a force to be reckoned with and you left him off the list. smh. Also, Lauri & KD are more SF than PF.
He was not the 2nd best option this season. That was Murray.
Gotta be that consistent in the regular season to
@@alexgoldflame445 He wasn't their 2nd option, he was their 2nd best player based on what he provided for the team. There's alot more to basketball than scoring and shot attempts. What we saw from Murray in the playoffs was not the same player we saw during the regular season. Gordon was guarding the other team's best player most nights if they weren't a guard. He did everything that was asked of him, the epitome of a utility player. Murray & MPJ weren't as reliable as they were in the playoffs, Gordon picked up the slack, same as he did when they were injured.
@@EllenFromCaseOhGrocery I don't get what you're saying. Gordon was consistent in the regular season, just because he's not a top option on offense shouldn't diminish his value. He's a utility player, he does what the circumstances require of him. He guards the other team's best player (minus PGs) pretty much every night. There's more to basketball than scoring and taking shots.
@@09lowkey same w everyone one else on the list who deserves to be ahead of him
Zion would be an honorable mention imo
This Paolo slander in the comments will not be forgotten after next season.
Ain’t no slander. He hasn’t proven he’s an elite player yet. His rookie year was good but you are confusing that with actually being capable of helping a contending playoff team which he isn’t ready for. Franz might be as good or better then Gordon already if that makes you feel any better
Glad to see some apreciation to Paolo ,he still has to improve,but he is already a solid player at the 4 ,🔥
Idc where aaron gordon is on this list, but he just needs to be on here smfh
KD and Lauri Markkanan are Small Forwards
Paolo at 10 is outrageous, everyone in honorable mentions is better than him
thats a fact
Naw yall sleep and the potential is crazy
paolo been in the league for one season thats not enough to prove hes better than any of the players in the honorable mentions let alone a top 10 pf in the nba
@@mikhaelsingletary its based off right now and next year I bet he is
@@YoungIllyMusic1 regardless if its based off right now or even next year he is still not better than any honorable mentioned players let alone a top 10 pf in the league. Even if you go based off potential the players in the honorable mentions are all championship winning pfs; so you telling me based off your idea of his "potential" he's a top 10 pf and better than kuzma, green and gordan? No way. He has proven nothing
Jokic that good at passing he got ppl thinking Aaron Gordon top 5 PF
So bring up the back injury when it comes to Giannis, but not the ankle injury when it comes to Randle. Nice.
Played on a fucked up ankle that required surgery. But yet Zion is the 3rd best pf in the league ?
giannis still dropped like 30 a game on that bad back when he came back during the heat series despite the injury he still got buckets randle did not so its not even a disccusion
@Chromixxxx this is about context, not comparison. Nobody in their right mind would suggest they're on equal footing in the league.
Bruh I know we not dare comparing Giannis to Randle everybody knew if Giannis was healthy Milwaukee wins that series everybody knew if Randle was healthy New York still loses that series that's the difference
@@Chromixxxx didn’t he miss 3 straight games and they lost in 5?
“30 a game”, you mean the two games that he played in the series? Lmao come on now
Stop shilling Zion. He can’t be 3 when he’s not even playing. You can’t rank someone 3 solely on potential. You even said it…you rank players every 6 months or so, because it can change. Zion is not top 10. I’d put green there instead. Anyways, great vid bro love your analysis
Exactly. I can understand an honorable mention for Z, but top 3?!😮😱🤯😵💫😵
Solely on potential?? He’s already reached a level that most players in the league will never touch.
Its not really potential, when he's played he's really interchangeable between 1-3. Potential wise he could be 1.
Lauri markkanen actually plays small forward
I don’t understand how Zion is too 3 but not kawhi
Me yesterday: Damn no KD or Kuzma
Me today: 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
He had KD #2
For me randle, Markkanen, jaren Jackson, and Siakam are all so close
Any playoff team is taking Aaron Gordon over Paolo rn
Loll for a rookie he played very well
@@zoemafia7360 I didn’t say that he didn’t but his 18.8ppg on 41/28/72 shooting splits the 2nd half of the season and poor defense and advanced stats in comparison to Gordon shows it’s not even a question who playoff teams would want rn
Bruh stop lying
Did Orlando take Gordon over Paolo
@@theetruth8626 Lol Gordon has been on the Nuggets for two and a half years Paolo just got drafted last year. I’m not saying Paolo won’t become better but rn he’s not and Franz is the Magic’s best player atm
For Mobley why show 2 bricks off rip
Aron Gordon isn't one of this list, there is something wrong with your ranking
Cannot put Zion on this list based off potential or “when he’s healthy” crazy lol
The Lauri Markennen not sure if he deservrs to be on the list
ZION AT 3 WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
I know... B.S. dude doesn't play enough...
Lauri play more lika a SF than PF for sure...
Bball paul disrespect is crazy
Laurie Morgan
I consider Lauri Markkanen a SF
Zion right where he should be if he was healthy he would be #1
Where is BAM ???? This is crazy !!!!
Draymond is better than half this list
draymond is ass he hasnt given value in the last 3 years
Mr triple single? Hell no. Not hard to average 6 assists when you’ve got Steph and Klay spotting up
At talking out his @$!
Hell naw that plainly ridiculous
Agreed
KAT played power forward all of this past season… no chance he’s not better than Randle
Bro Paolo over draymond is hilarious
No it's not he actually can carry a team anybody can petty pat around the actually leader
I’m sorry, but for 2023 I’d take Aaron Gordon over Paolo, Jerami Grant, and Julius Randle. I’d even be tempted to put him above Mobley, but I believe in Mobley growing into a big time player next year.
But AG is absolutely no joke. He does benefit from Jokic, but he is utterly essential to the Nugget’s success.
Giannis is not betting than KD smh. Never saw kd run from the ball in any point in his playoff let alone in his prime. Giannis has done it 3 times in the postseason. 2019, 2020, & 2023.
Aaron Gordon should've been 8-10
No he shouldn't this list off guys who actually carried teams as the number 1 guy not benefitting playing off a superstar
The disrespect to Randle. He have injury last playoffs
As Finn, i know i'm as biased as it gets, but there are 0 teams that would take Zion over Lauri. And that hasn't anything to with him maybe one best contracts in the league either.
Lauri might be more of a SF these days, but doesn't bare any significance on this as they're both considered PF's here.
Porzingis and Davis as centers???
Yes they have played center for there teams it will probably change for porzingis since they will probably bench Al instead of Robert
nah AG need to be in the top 10. it's too early for Mobley
Paskal Siakam, KAT??
Disrespect to Draymond
No way bro said paolo and grant is better than draymond💀
Lauri is a SF not a PF
pwill gonna be top 5 in 2 years, book it.
Zion is a phenomenal talent without a doubt but availability also matter to be ranked in this lot Zion is definitely not suited. He should be in an honorable mention list. They are many others who have shown more dedication and performance than Zion and they deserve to be higher than him.
Good list.
So no draymond or ag
Markkanen is only 26. Next MVP.
Paolo over Aaron, insanity
How can you put zion on this list but not KAT?!!!
Zion hasn't played enough to be considered for any NBA awards but he makes at #3 Above all these other reliable players on ur list. 🙄🤔
Tobias dont even get an honorable mention 😂
Who?😂
is KAT a center?
Yes
Randle should be higher than Lauri and JJJ. This past season he played on an ankle that needed surgery and was rushed back twice during the postseason. Underrated talent
Julius Randle disappears in the playoffs yet at the number 3 spot you have someone who has never been healthy enough to help his team reach the playoffs. Wild how over rated Zion is
Draymond and Gordon are better than 10-7.
No they not these guys actually leads they teams Draymond and Gordon doesn't and benefits off the superstars they play with that's common sense
Agree on the Draymond part without his assists and play making Curry and Thompson might not be extra efficient, and despite his antics at times he's still a solid though slowly declining playmaker and defender. Of course, that's just my personal opinion.@2stepjoey
for the same argument you use for Zion at #3 then Butler should be higher...
JAREN JACKSON JR???????
Where is Draymond GREEN?. He has 4 rings
Randle's below Dray and Mobley imo
Stop it we all seen Draymond in the leader role a single single he's disqualified and Evan Mobely can't even carry his team on his back
I support Zion. This gonna be his year.
😂
It's never gonna be his year as long as Giannis Jokic and Embiid playing that just pipe dreams
@@theetruth8626 He will be right up there with those names. Big man will dominate the game for the foreseeable future
@@Shortballa11 bruh stop it Big man has always dominated the game u must be lost in the golden state era where it lacked elite bigs Giannis and Jokic was a pup and Embiid was injured
@@Shortballa11 he's 6 foot 6 and over weight with a lack of endurance naw he won't be up there in those boys trier the top 3 best players in the league
Don’t understand how Randle isn’t a top 5 PF in the league. He’s one of the only dudes in the league that averages 25/10/4 (the others are Jokic, Gianni’s, and Embiid). 2021, he had zero offensive support and this year, he was playing on an injured ankle. Yet Zion is a top 3 pf in the league?? I swear, y’all don’t actually watch the games. Nba fans are the biggest casuals in all of sports
Lmao you’re saying we’re casuals but your only argument to randle being top 5 is him averaging 25/10/4, his efficiency is shit and he collapses when it matters
@@user-jx6bu8fr7vI didn’t think I’d need to say more than that ? He has the numbers on his side. He’s an all star and all nba, one of the top iso scorers in the league, had one of the highest usages in the league. How exactly is he not efficient when he has a 59%TS and 5.89 RPM (top 18 out of every player in the league). He also had the 8th most 3PM in the league last season. Idk man, he’s looking pretty efficient to me
@@samuelg1172 You absolutely need to say more if you think he is top5 with Markkanen being 5th, Lauri averages 25,6 and 8,6 on miles better efficiency and is actually a solid defender unlike Randle. You cant make an argument for Randles playmaking either because he is in no way good at playmaking, his higher assist numbers compared to Lauri is thanks to him being on ball more and we can see that from his very inefficient 1,3assist per turnover ratio. Also how can you say that he is efficient when he is a 6'8 250 guy shooting 46% from the field lol, his efficiency is passable while lauris is elite.
@@Mmmm-lx9vb he has one of the highest usages in the league, one of the highest RPM’s in the league, top 10 in 3PM last season, and a TS% of 59%. I’ll give you that Randle is not a great defender but his defensive rating is actually higher than Markannan (108 compared to Markannan’s 112.2). And idk where you got your info on ast:TO bcuz Randle’s is 1.7 while Markannan’s is ZERO- yes, he averaged 1.9 ast and 1.9 TO per game. You can make excuses for his high assist but numbers don’t lie. And I’m not sure what being 6’9 250lbs has to do with his fg%, but he def takesWAY more three pointers than Markannan. Matter of fact, he’s the only big man in the league that’s top 10 in 3PM last season. I feel like when ppl say he’s not “efficient”, they don’t really know what they’re saying bcuz according to the numbers, he is. He’s VERY efficient- how can you be inefficient and make All NBA?
Hope this was enough for you.
@@samuelg1172Bro gets tunnel vision quite often. Quite a bad defender. Below average 3pt shooter.
Btw comparing Randle to Markkanen is just stupid. Lauri is wayyy better and more efficient scorer. Only reason why Randle has better DRTG is because Knicks were a much better defensive team. Lauri is decent defender and you'd know he's a much better defender than Randle if you actually watched their games. Only thing Randle has over him is passing and maybe rebounding (though very slightly).
You literally lost me with Randle being on this list over Aaron Gordon
Because Randle leads the Knicks he's the captain. Gordon ain't even the side kick
@@theetruth8626 stfu jalen is that teams best player
@@theetruth8626bro a casual lol
Lauri is a 3
Paul George didn’t make a list ???
I rather have Paskal, JJJ and Lauri than Zion on my team
Well if Zion is on this list especially top 3 then we're is Ben Simmons? His body of work is more than Zion so seriously he should at least be on here.
Yes, Simmons is by far the best in the NBA among all players who averaged a triple single last season.
Gordon better than grant, where kat?
Aaron Gordon is top 5
Draymond should be number one because he has 4 rings
No Karl Anthony Towns?
He's a center truly that's playing out of position
Shouldn't even rank zion till he plays most of the season
I think I’d rather have randle and Jackson over lauri. He just had one good year and I do think he will still be good but he’s not better
Lauri is literally a number one option, the only thing Jackson better at is defense and he highly overrated
@@Coldass that a casual take. The Grizzlies always have a better record when Ja is out the lineup and JJJ and Desmond go back and forth being the number 1. And there is a huge gap on defense
@@Ericrawnsley and JJJ is the best. Soooo....
@@Shortballa11 i agree. jjj does lots of things on the court, not just defense. hes one of the best defenders and also a good floor spacer, hes getting better at playmaking as well. ja is the grizzlies franchise player but jjj is the grizzlies franchise number two/three
Randle’s performance in the playoffs is overstated. 2021 was the first time he ever made the playoffs and had ZERO offensive support, and this year he was playing on an injured ankle that required surgery. Honestly I don’t get how Randle isn’t a top 5 PF- he’s 1/4 dudes in the league that averages 25/10/4 (the others being Jokic, Embiid and Giannis)