The Most Underrated Player in NBA History... According to me

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  • A breakdown of why I believe David Robinson is now the most underrated player in the history of the league.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  Před 2 měsíci +65

    We’ll see if I change my mind again in a year. Lol. For me, Robinson is that guy who doesn’t get ranked nearly as high as I believe he should…. Who is that guy for you??

    • @chrisuncleahmad
      @chrisuncleahmad Před 2 měsíci +21

      Peja Stojakovic

    • @Teachingcasuals
      @Teachingcasuals Před 2 měsíci +1

      Can you help me promote this breaking news story? Lebron plagiarized kobe on the first question of his new podcast.

    • @fortnitejake850
      @fortnitejake850 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Steph Curry. Until everyone starts ranking him in the top 5 I wont stop sayin curry

    • @jrr3787
      @jrr3787 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Wilt. He's by far the best ever and no one else is even close. It should be WIlt and then someone else at number 108 or so.

    • @jrr3787
      @jrr3787 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@fortnitejake850Curry - or anyone else currently playing couldn't have made a starting roster in the 80s.

  • @PiGuy007
    @PiGuy007 Před 2 měsíci +44

    I agree. Instead of remembering how dominant Robinson was, people tend to only recall the series against Hakeem and him not winning a ring until Duncan came along.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Like that's a crime not winning a title when Jordan's Bulls and Olajuwon's Rockets are around.

    • @porcupinecraig
      @porcupinecraig Před 2 měsíci +1

      Facts suck. It's not just that he needed Duncan to win, but that Pop tanked an entire year on purpose to get Duncan. No respect for that.

    • @ImadogGarcia
      @ImadogGarcia Před 2 měsíci

      Robinson hadn’t a #2 guy (before Duncan) and no shooting around him like the Rockets did. He was elite

    • @ImadogGarcia
      @ImadogGarcia Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@porcupinecraigso how many free agents choose the Spurs? The draft is the only way to improve for them. Can’t blame them

  • @mastermindmartialarts
    @mastermindmartialarts Před 2 měsíci +18

    You literally described Robinson perfectly. Took all the words out of my mouth. Absolute monster in his prime who held his own with every big man in his era. And he accomplished all he did in a 13 season Career.

  • @Tomtainius
    @Tomtainius Před 2 měsíci +270

    Finally… Luis Scola is gonna get the respect he deserves.

    • @Tomtainius
      @Tomtainius Před 2 měsíci +28

      Damn. I guess The Admiral was alright too…

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 2 měsíci +67

      Lol, that is a good pick. Almost no one talks about Scola anymore.

    • @labiodentale
      @labiodentale Před 2 měsíci +5

      Who? I am clearly a newbie

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 2 měsíci +38

      @labiodentale Basically a tremendous overseas player, who then came to the NBA and was pretty good. He was a Rookie of the Year candidate and was a quality contributor to the Rockets in the late 2000s. I also think he had some of the most underrated footwork in NBA History. You wouldn't describe him as an NBA legend, but he's worth remembering.

    • @mikeflo4840
      @mikeflo4840 Před 2 měsíci +6

      I always wish the spurs had kept Scola

  • @MistaP13
    @MistaP13 Před 2 měsíci +53

    Thank you for giving the Admiral his props!

  • @catmandude2357
    @catmandude2357 Před 2 měsíci +48

    Not just a great basketball player, but a GREAT overall person. Was top of his class, never got in a single bit of trouble, and does a ton of charity. A true all-around role model for kids.

    • @Trevdawg48
      @Trevdawg48 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I met David Robinson in Aspen Colorado when I was 12. He was super nice, and talked to me and a couple other kids for a long time. He even signed a couple basketball cards I had of him.

    • @chrisbarnett5303
      @chrisbarnett5303 Před 2 měsíci +2

      7 foot tall Mr. Rogers

    • @judah6152
      @judah6152 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@chrisbarnett5303lol. True

  • @mackeysmith245
    @mackeysmith245 Před 2 měsíci +21

    Great to see Robinson get the love he deserves. His skill set and athleticism would transfer incredibly well into today's game!

  • @stizostedion1221
    @stizostedion1221 Před 2 měsíci +17

    He was not mentally weak as some claim, but he did not have the desire to "destroy" all his opponents either.
    If David Robinson had the same mentality as Olajuwon during his career, he would be in discussion for the GOAT.
    Hakeem and David are my 2 favorite centers all time.
    Both were deeply religious, but where Hakeem prayed to become stronger and take his team to the title, David prayed to one day be joined by a very strong teammate to win the title (I read that somewhere one day). Both were granted... but I find that this story sums up the difference in mentality between the two.

  • @andrewcook1246
    @andrewcook1246 Před 2 měsíci +122

    Mvp, dpoty, one of only 2 Centers to avg 4blks and 2stls in a season, scoring champ, blks champ and reb champ. Came into the league a 20/10/3blk guy and stayed that way all through his prime on a bad team.
    The fact that he got to league a little later than usual takes away from his longevity. But honestly he's an absolute monster. His loss to Hakeem got blown up too much and he's a victim of a bad narrative.

    • @vineelkesavarapu5736
      @vineelkesavarapu5736 Před 2 měsíci +13

      To be fair, Hakeem totally destroyed him in that series. Robinson did somewhat underperform at times in the playoffs. He would have never won 2 championships without Duncan. That doesn't take away from Robinson being a great player.

    • @kenbillings6560
      @kenbillings6560 Před 2 měsíci +4

      "stayed that way all through his prime on a bad team." Not sure if Robinson was ever on a bad team....

    • @andrewcook1246
      @andrewcook1246 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@vineelkesavarapu5736 Yeah that was Hakeem's cinderella run and to boot he did a repeat so I dont have him over Hakeem but its closer than ppl think.

    • @andrewcook1246
      @andrewcook1246 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@kenbillings6560 lets go with inconsiatent since his most famous teamate before Duncan was Rodman. I think those Spurs teams were only a threat I thinknin 1995 the rest were pretty meh. The swason before they tanked

    • @MJIZZEL
      @MJIZZEL Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@andrewcook1246 pretty obvious you wasn't around to watch basketball back then.
      Spurs a "bad" or "inconsistent" team??
      Lmao. They were one of the best in the west before Robinson injury and Duncan arrival
      I think the fewest games they won was like 47 which still had them easily in the top half of the playoff seeds.
      Then what does Robinson "most famous" teammate gotta do with anything.
      For one, Rodman has only gotten the amount of attention or acknowledgement in the past 10 years and I think that's got alot to do with younger fans or lbj fans need to try and diminish Jordan succes by promoting Rodman and therefore establishing that Jordan had more help.
      Second, Rodman wasn't looked at as an asset to any team in the league after Detroit. Anything he added in rebounding or defense, he normally gave back with his lack of self control and inability to be involved in off court, team meetings and practices. Phil Jackson knew he could"corral" Rodman is why the bulls got him and no bulls fans were happy at first. Media called it a stupid move and genius of the spurs to get rid of him.
      Third thing. Forget players "fame".
      Robinson had very good teammates early on in Rod Strickland and Terry Cummings.
      Then came Sean Elliot who ended up being an Allstar.
      Then Dale ellis, Avery Johnson, and Vinny del negro who were all great supporting cast. I'd even throw JR Reid in there as he was the spurs Rodman before Rodman.
      Just really can't see someone making such wrong statements and not try and correct. People these days read a comment and believe it. Spurs were a very good team. One of the best in the west from 89-90 onwards.

  • @Seahawks1115
    @Seahawks1115 Před 2 měsíci +33

    He may not be the Greatest because his career wasn’t very long but he’s for sure one of the best centers of all time

    • @mickeylee2624
      @mickeylee2624 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Absolutely! Only Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, and Shaq were better on offense (maybe Duncan), while only Olajuwon and Russell were his peers on defense. In short, Hakeem was the only better two-way center than Robinson.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese Před 2 měsíci +17

    As a Bulls fan from back in the day I remember the Spurs being one of the most uncomfortable teams to face in the entire league, one of the biggest reasons for that being Robinson. He was a beast and tenacious as hell.

    • @potentially__9445
      @potentially__9445 Před 2 měsíci +2

      YES, ABSOLUTELY!!! The Spurs and the Rockets gave Chicago fits.

    • @oronasundial
      @oronasundial Před 2 měsíci +2

      I remember those days...Jordan didn't like coming to Texas. He struggled against my SPURS and the rocket's also.

  • @ktapreswreckd921v9
    @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Completely agree with you Jonny. The Admiral could post up( something today's NBA players ever do) He could rebound and defend. Scoring, Rebound,Blocks titles and a MVP. Wow!

    • @JustAnAverageJoe12
      @JustAnAverageJoe12 Před 2 měsíci +1

      he also couldn’t shoot 3s at all (something today nba players do)

    • @manuelsalazar3938
      @manuelsalazar3938 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@JustAnAverageJoe12 Exactly one of the reasons this league is sh*t now. A boring 3 point contest.

    • @JustAnAverageJoe12
      @JustAnAverageJoe12 Před 2 měsíci

      @@manuelsalazar3938 watching Kobe shoot 40% and scores be 75-75 isn’t fun lil bro 🙏 😭

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 2 měsíci

      @@JustAnAverageJoe12 Not sure I understand your thoughts? You said that Robinson could not shoot three pointers. Back then centers were supposed to protect the paint, rebound and score down low.
      Besides, look at today's NBA with all the blasted three pointers being shot. Ridiculous!

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@manuelsalazar3938Thank you for that comment!

  • @hakeemolajuwon4352
    @hakeemolajuwon4352 Před 2 měsíci +31

    David Robinson is easily a top 10 center arguably top 5 all time! The size, skill, athleticism, range, and the defense Robinson has has very rarely been duplicated in the history of the NBA.

    • @ZincAddict
      @ZincAddict Před 2 měsíci

      Dream, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Malone..... definitely not a top 5 center, but I do agree he's quite unique and deserving to be in the top 10 convo

    • @hakeemolajuwon4352
      @hakeemolajuwon4352 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@ZincAddict buddy, David Robinson is better than Shaq and it's not really close.

    • @andreisevostianov9525
      @andreisevostianov9525 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I have him at 6 in my top top-10 centers since merger. 1. Shaq 2. Hakeem 3. Ewing 4. Kareem 5. Moses

    • @hakeemolajuwon4352
      @hakeemolajuwon4352 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@andreisevostianov9525 Shaq over Olajuwon and Ewing over Robinson... Questionable

    • @Twowaycurry
      @Twowaycurry Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@andreisevostianov9525you good?
      Ewing over Kareem?

  • @northernlight1000
    @northernlight1000 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I agree!, and if you guys really want to see a detailed analysis of how legendary David Robinson is, watch thinking basketball's video on him in his greatest peaks series (perhaps the best basketball series of all time online lol) that changed my mind on him sooo much!

  • @donaldchase9250
    @donaldchase9250 Před 2 měsíci +4

    John Havlicek gets my vote for most underrated player ever because he played in Russell’s shadow. He averaged 20 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists in an era where assists were hard to come by. He was an 8 time champion, a finals MVP, a 13 time All Star and made 5 All NBA First Team Defense teams. He played before I was born, but he is an all time great that never gets talked about.

  • @coolname9458
    @coolname9458 Před 2 měsíci +34

    David Robinson, Elgin Baylor, and Moses Malone will always be the top 3 most underrated for me. If I had to pick, I'd lean Baylor since people always talk about how underrated he is and he STILL gets underrated

    • @marcdaddy33
      @marcdaddy33 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Baylor. Great choice. Oscar too

    • @lilpenny1982
      @lilpenny1982 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Moses Malone is definitely underrated but not the rest.

    • @eyghen8529
      @eyghen8529 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Bill Walton was nice as well

    • @lilpenny1982
      @lilpenny1982 Před 2 měsíci

      @@eyghen8529 Bill Walton is highly overrated in the pro's.

    • @toddhanley6982
      @toddhanley6982 Před 2 měsíci +2

      FACTS MACHINE - the man averaged TWENTY EIGHT POINTS A GAME !!! as a post up player!! I mean his teammate Jerry averaged 27 but Jerry was a sniper even if he never got credit (unfortunately) for his 3's. But Elgin scored 28 a game AT THE RIM!! And honestly, may be the most 'influential' dunker as far as incorporating it as an in game weapon (more so than Doc, Hawk, MJ, Dominique, or Vince) and if I'm not mistaken I think Chick Hern coined the phrase 'Slam Dunk' as a description of a young Elgin's game

  • @seananthony7494
    @seananthony7494 Před 2 měsíci +99

    He didn’t even choke when he went against the Rockets, it was just that Hakeem had one of the greatest playoff runs of all time.

    • @homerthompson416
      @homerthompson416 Před 2 měsíci +10

      And David's backcourt was Avery Johnson and Vinny Del Negro and Rodman got into a pissing match with the coach forcing his benching in two critical games. Also think that 95 Rockets team is the most criminally underrated team of all time. Not only was Hakeem in god mode, but they also had the hardest title run you'll ever see going through a 60 win Jazz team, a 59 win Suns team, a 62 win Spurs team, and a 57 win Magic team without homecourt in any series. I feel confident in saying we will never see another title run like that again where one team had to beat a legit contender in every round en route to a championship.

    • @timmyg831
      @timmyg831 Před 2 měsíci +8

      That is true, Hakeem would’ve beaten any center in history the way he played in those playoffs. He would’ve beaten prime Wilt, prime Russell, prime Kareem. Prime Robinson is the most athletic center I’ve ever seen and nearly equal to Olajuwon in defense.

    • @sssjjjttt
      @sssjjjttt Před 2 měsíci +7

      You'd think 1 bad series define a player for their entire career the way that people disrespect David Robinson. Wild.

    • @timmyg831
      @timmyg831 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@homerthompson416 …Duncan had a much better lineup with Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi, Bowen, and Robinson. It helps with great teammates.

    • @homerthompson416
      @homerthompson416 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@timmyg831 What sucks is the Spurs had built a really strong supporting cast around Robinson his rookie year, with Rod Strickland, Terry Cummings, Sean Elliott, Willie Anderson, and then Frank Brickowski and David Wingate off the bench, and were one turnover in OT away from beating Portland on the road in Game 7 and likely stamping a ticket to the Finals (though the Pistons would have beaten the Spurs in 5 or 6 that year I think). But the cheap ass billionaire owner Red McCombs wouldn't pay Strickland so he walked a couple of years later, Terry Cummings blew out his knee in a pickup game right after and went from allstar to tenth man scrub overnight because of it, Anderson's career flamed out, they moved Brickowski for scrub Paul Pressey, and they got Dale Ellis way too late. Rodman was a disaster too. A team with a competent owner would have won a title with Robinson the #1 option. Spurs didn't get one (Peter Holt) until 96 when David injured his back and wasn't the same player after.

  • @MrMaboto
    @MrMaboto Před 2 měsíci +12

    I have the admiral really high on my list, the man was a scoring champ and DPOY. Versatility at its finest

  • @sirbradfordofhousejones
    @sirbradfordofhousejones Před 2 měsíci +14

    He’s certainly up there! I’d say we can probably include Moses Malone and Rick Barry to this conversation as well. That era just isn’t respected.

    • @rockysalvatore435
      @rockysalvatore435 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Moses joined a stacked team. Barry has the goat ring. Even sauron would join the NBA to chase after that one instead of his

    • @sirbradfordofhousejones
      @sirbradfordofhousejones Před 2 měsíci

      @@rockysalvatore435 haha, that’s fair from people who know. But I think most fans forget about Barry entirely. He was lethal. Regarding Moses, that’s just a few years of his career, though. He was incredible for more than just his Sixers years.

    • @rockysalvatore435
      @rockysalvatore435 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sirbradfordofhousejones how many rings did he get w Philly tho. He did a kd. Also he was a stat padder. Not good in the post passing or double teams. Very dated. Barry is the goat warrior. No one in their history would do what he did

  • @Fernando-vg4ym
    @Fernando-vg4ym Před 2 měsíci +8

    Totally agreed. He was a monster on the court and a gentleman off of it.

  • @scottwinn5043
    @scottwinn5043 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Not old enough to have watched DRob play but man are his highlights fun to watch. He’s one of my favorite legends, definitely worthy of top 25.

  • @realsciencerhythm
    @realsciencerhythm Před 2 měsíci +5

    Kudos, my favourite player when I was watching the NBA in the 90' , made moi a Spurs fan for life! Thanks Man!

    • @adamwells9352
      @adamwells9352 Před 2 měsíci

      Same here. To me, Spurs were Robinson's team first.

  • @Ben-pf9sw
    @Ben-pf9sw Před 2 měsíci +8

    He was definitely one of the most versatile and well rounded big men of all time

  • @thomash8501
    @thomash8501 Před 2 měsíci +6

    100% agree with you, Jonny! I was a huge fan of the Admiral from day one. His Spurs and Jordan's Bulls were my two favorite teams during the 90's.

  • @august6281
    @august6281 Před 2 měsíci +17

    _"According to me"_ is the most important criteria on this video. And the context to make it sensible of course.

  • @Sinreher
    @Sinreher Před 2 měsíci +37

    One of only two players (Jordan) to win both a scoring title and a DPOY award during their careers. One of four players to officially record a quadruple double and one of 10 to score 70+ in a game; only one to do both.

    • @Davivd2
      @Davivd2 Před 2 měsíci +7

      He scored 70 when 70 meant something, Now it's just something that happens on a Tuesday because you can't be guarded shooting a 3 and you get to take 2 steps on a step back so that none of your jumpers can ever be blocked

    • @Trevdawg48
      @Trevdawg48 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Wilt had a quintuple double, and scored over 70 more than everyone else combined (prior to the last year when 4 more players have done it)

    • @Eat-Z-Bugs
      @Eat-Z-Bugs Před 2 měsíci

      @@Davivd2 Wow.

    • @bananalegend194
      @bananalegend194 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Trevdawg48 yes but sadly for wilt his quintuple double isnt official, like his 100 point game, couldve happened but you cant be 100% sure

    • @Trevdawg48
      @Trevdawg48 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@bananalegend194 True about the quintuple double, but the 100 point game unquestionably happened. There is no reasonable doubt.

  • @Noin007
    @Noin007 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I think a massive part of why David Robinson is not ranked higher for most people is that not just the series where Hakeem had Robinson looking like a clown but also when playing against Shaq, Robinson got bullied. Outfinessed by Hakeem and outmuscled by ONeill. To go along with the fact that he just doesn’t really have that shining series that everyone remembers where he was head & shoulders, the best player on the court.

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That's a very good way to describe the reason. Still however The Admiral was a great player.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Then again, in that era, which center wasn't oufinessed by Hakeem and outmuscled by Shaq? And there were a whole bunch of great centers back then

    • @psalmerperena4120
      @psalmerperena4120 Před 2 měsíci +4

      He was pretty even with Shaq. He got out muscled more often when Robinson was past his prime suffering injuries. It was a game against Shaq when Robinson scored 71 points. Robinson doesn't have Shaq's longevity because the former started playing in the NBA at an older age to finish his service in the Navy. Every center during that period got outfinessed by Hakeem though.

    • @dusttaker
      @dusttaker Před 2 měsíci

      @@patanouketgersiflet9486 Manute Bol?

    • @Noin007
      @Noin007 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ktapreswreckd921v9 Absolutely, David Robinson is one of the greatest centers of all time. Just outside of the top five ever. It is truly unfortunate that the two most lasting images of him are Hakeem putting him on skates and Shaq running him over. 🫠

  • @RyeAkai
    @RyeAkai Před 2 měsíci +3

    I remember I once did a poll on who's the better Malone and Karl won the poll over Moses with something like 85% of the votes. This was a poll with around 3k votes (this was done about 10 years ago).
    So yeah, I know it's a "popular" most underrated pick, but I will always say Moses. There was a good chunk of the 80s in which he was considered the best player in the league by many, he had a long career and his offensive rebound numbers are just out of this world. His career is just amazing, even without considering the time spent in the ABA.

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y Před 2 měsíci +17

    The Admiral was awesome! Played for Naval Academy, served couple years in the Navy, then came into the NBA. He was 7’ tall. Also, if you ever watched a Spurs game when the National Anthem played he always stood at attention. Oh yeah he helped the Spurs win 2 NBA championships and played for the USA Olympic team winning gold twice. Salute Mr. Robinson!

  • @konasavage
    @konasavage Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm 49 and was a NBA fanatic in the 90s, Robinson was amazing

  • @i.m.takkinen
    @i.m.takkinen Před 2 měsíci +26

    I give Hakeem his props for his head to head with Robinson, career and titles. That said Robinson was easily one of the very best players of that Era and quite frankly of all time. One of the greatest combos of offensive skill, speed and athleticism we have seen.

  • @yezzir8929
    @yezzir8929 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Preach! Robinson was the 3rd most valuable player of the 90s behind Jordan and Hakeem!

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 2 měsíci +1

      you can put BARKLEY and K.MALONE and they are the TOP 5 players of the 90s..

  • @exiledknight3961
    @exiledknight3961 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Dont forget as a rookie he lead the Spurs to win 35 more games then the pervious year. Something the hyper hyped Wembanyama, didnt do any may not for a couple more seasons. Also to me David Robinson had the best build of any Center ever.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Před 2 měsíci +2

      One and done is the biggest reason why we don't get guys who come in and immediately dominate in the NBA anymore. All these guys taken high in the draft today are still growing both their games and bodies at nineteen years old.

  • @nvm9040
    @nvm9040 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Robinson is one of those players that is ranked or lower than what he is
    Robinson was a top 5-10 center in his era and he had the size and skill to compete with the best centers like Hakeem plus his MVP season was a highlight of this excellence throughout the 90's
    Plus the introduction of Duncan helped Robinson in many ways leading to two chips

    • @MyYTwatcher
      @MyYTwatcher Před 2 měsíci

      Robinson was higher then 5-10. Honestly Olajuwon is probably only one who people wont argue about.
      Shaq was only too strong and heavy. He did not have anything close to Robinson´s skils.
      Ewing, Morning were worse. Mutombo was only good defender. Who else was there? Nobody.

    • @nvm9040
      @nvm9040 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MyYTwatcher thx for your opinion

  • @chrisuncleahmad
    @chrisuncleahmad Před 2 měsíci +8

    The Admiral!

  • @oronasundial
    @oronasundial Před 2 měsíci +4

    Every TRUE Spurs Fan Knows David Robinson in his prime is the Real reason and the foundation to why my SPURS became a dynasty and was part of the '92 dream team the greatest team ever. Dave before his injury was unstoppable btw the jordans bulls wouldn't had been able to stop that '95 rocket's team either, so dave needs to stop getting criticized for that, they just had a better team over-all during that time once we got Duncun they couldn't touch us after that. David should be in everyone's top 15 at minimum he's in my top 10 over-all and number one in my personal favorite list next to MANU.

  • @alex4833
    @alex4833 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Superb video, Jonny! You make a solid case for Robinson being the most underrated player. He was a great player and his accolades are great - MVP, 2 rings, 2 gold medals, and, as you said, led the league in PPG, RPG, and BPG (and it is incredible how he had many steals too - perhaps Hakeem might be the only center better than him at steals). I don't hear about him often today, but he is definitely one of my favorites.
    Have a great day 😊.

  • @UsedShovel
    @UsedShovel Před 2 měsíci +5

    im glad you made this video because i remember thinking he was a little high on your 30 best players list but hey the Admiral was pretty damn good so if you have him ranked higher than i do then i cant argue with it

  • @nemecaias
    @nemecaias Před 2 měsíci +3

    i am european but i wtach nba since 1991 i am 45 what u said about the admiral was all true two times olympic champion also a realy great guy down to earth and with out narcissist issues

  • @significantnobody823
    @significantnobody823 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Love the respect for The Admiral. I think Elvin Hayes is one of the most underrated players of all time.

  • @tangerinedream106
    @tangerinedream106 Před 2 měsíci +4

    David Robinson is 100% one of the mose underrated all time greats, me personally I say Moses Malone is the most underrated all time great. Also guys like Rick Barry, Bob McAdoo, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy, Alex English, and Clyde Drexler belong in the underrated convo as well.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 2 měsíci

      Barry for sure...people also forget BAYLOR WORTHY and ENGLISH i think he was more like a scorer like WILKINS.

  • @louielyons9365
    @louielyons9365 Před 2 měsíci +3

    We often disagree my man, but this is an appropriate take

  • @user-cn8nu6lq4w
    @user-cn8nu6lq4w Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nice to see this. i've thought this for quite a while myself- while it's always hard to pick the "most underrated" player, he's always been up there for me. His rookie season alone is just mind boggling. I was disappointed last time he wasn't slightly higher than #22. Man had a hell of a peak.
    Genuine shame he got injured the way he did. Would have loved to see his game improve over time.

  • @byltraining
    @byltraining Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this video. The admiral was my favorite player growing up

  • @kenbillings6560
    @kenbillings6560 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love the Admiral. Thank you for setting the record straight...
    Now, I have a question. Who the heck is #24 in the picture at the 3:59 mark? I am a life-long Spurs fan, but I have no memory of this dude.... LOL

  • @chrisbarnett5303
    @chrisbarnett5303 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm a Spurs fan since 97 and even I have underrated D-Rob. His best seasons were when I had just started following basketball and I didn't really pay attention to him then

  • @user-bk5qi1kx8p
    @user-bk5qi1kx8p Před 2 měsíci +1

    Anyone who watched David knew his excellence. Great footwork,strong,powerful both sides. How I miss the days of Patrick, Akeem,Moses,Smits,Shaq,etc. Robinson also a great person and Patriot! 🇺🇲

  • @evettewloch1202
    @evettewloch1202 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thanks Johnny these videos are my favorite, and I am always looking forward to more. There are so many great players that don't get talked about like bob pettit,dave cowens,robert parish,walt bellamy, nate tiny archibald, neil johnston, and artis gilmore and I can't wait for videos on how good are they really.

  • @godthesonhasilluminatedme
    @godthesonhasilluminatedme Před 2 měsíci +2

    Excellent excellent video…David is slept on big time

  • @xman1519
    @xman1519 Před 2 měsíci +2

    200% I agree with you. Also I have Admiral ranked #21 all time

  • @eegrul1
    @eegrul1 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Great video. Looking forward your next top 50 update!

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thanks! I'll probably wait until the end of this season, that way we get all the awards and rings handed out, and see how everyone did in the postseason.

  • @rongiefaustino8867
    @rongiefaustino8867 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Mr. Robinson is (still) my favorite Spur of all time. I was too young to have a grasp of how special he was stastically in the 90s. But he was my primary defender on NBA Live games back then.

  • @baller23ist
    @baller23ist Před 2 měsíci

    Very good video as always Jonny Arnett!
    I think it would be a very cool idea if you made a video like this, but for each position.

  • @eljefe6161
    @eljefe6161 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Not a bad pick, for me its Moses Malone, but mad respect to the admiral

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Great pick. I believe I once said Moses Malone on this channel too, but the recent backlash towards my ranking of Robinson is what changed my mind. lol.

    • @dusttaker
      @dusttaker Před 2 měsíci

      if you had to pick between Moses or Robinson who would you take?

  • @wc4201
    @wc4201 Před 2 měsíci +7

    David is definitely in that conversation. Getting dunked on my Shaq in the all star game and Hakeem schooling him in the WCF then getting Tim and winning immediately really destroyed his reputation. David used to own Shaq until after he injured his back as he wasn’t the same player any longer. That said I think Moses Malone is the most underrated as people today don’t even know he existed or how good his 76ers teams were in the early 80’s.

  • @maartenvz
    @maartenvz Před 2 měsíci +3

    The Western Conference, graveyard of legends! Robinson in the 90s had to battle hakeems rockets, stockton&malones Jazz, Barkleys Suns, Payton&Kemps SuperSonics and when he got Duncan on his squad two other Goliaths (pun intended) stood up: Shaq & Kobes Lakers and the super deep Blazers (who should have won it all in 2000).

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 2 měsíci

      Or as Jonny called them, the Jailblazers. Horrible! That team was championship qualified. I agree with you.

    • @JustLikeHeaven77
      @JustLikeHeaven77 Před 2 měsíci

      In the 95 playoffs, Hakeem's Rockets beat...
      Stockton and Malone Jazz
      Barkley Suns
      Robinson Spurs
      Shaq and Penny Magic.

  • @benjaminguzmanuribe7680
    @benjaminguzmanuribe7680 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Finally I hear you talking about him!!!

  • @johnbarkley925
    @johnbarkley925 Před 2 měsíci +1

    David Robinson was really amazing. Arguably the best regular season center of the 90s, similarly to Embiid is today.
    His skillset was way ahead of its time and is still great in hindsight. He is like a blend of Giannis and AD. He has the freakish athleticism and transition prowess of Giannis with a similar offensive skillset to AD (great lob threat and good short range shooter). On the defensive end he is like a mirror image of AD being an exceptional rim protector and switch defender. What gives Robinson the edge, however, is his larger and stronger build which is more matchup proof than either Giannis or Anthony Davis.

  • @elementsofphysicalreality
    @elementsofphysicalreality Před 2 měsíci

    Got me on this one. You’re killing it with those videos.

  • @gf5050
    @gf5050 Před měsícem

    thx for that video. and you are spot on. i got into bball in 91 and the admiral was my fav player and i became hardcore spurs fan coz of him....a great character too. extremely underrated despite the many accolades, HOF etc....he was an absolute beast, just missed the killer instinct and brash personality

  • @rolieg81
    @rolieg81 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Not to mention that it would almost be impossible to be a better person off the court.. 1 of the 🐐's

  • @josephlee6470
    @josephlee6470 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Honestly, another reason he is so underrated is because everytime any one mentions him, they always talk about his character and off the court greatness. Nobody talks about him on the court.

  • @MasterRoshi8974
    @MasterRoshi8974 Před 2 měsíci

    I love Jonny Arnett! Great video

  • @pepejr10king
    @pepejr10king Před 2 měsíci +1

    hi! the other day i commented on a ig post stating that david robinson is better than duncan. and now this apeears on my youtube recomendations.
    great work jonny!

  • @andredornelles8014
    @andredornelles8014 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Absolutely love your content and agree with most of your arguments. But I still beleive that, in terms of all time underrated big men, Moses Fo Fo Fo Malone is ahead of the Admiral. Many yongsters (and yes casuals) nowadays don't have much idea at all of his impact in the game, but some do remember the Admiral from playing with Timmy D and the Dream Team

  • @RVered
    @RVered Před 2 měsíci +28

    David's reputation can be explained by the phrase, "No one cares about the second fastest gun in the West." Of course, "no one" is a gross and disrespectful overstatement, but you get my point; playing at the same time as Hakeem, Shaq, and Duncan, he was never VIEWED as the best C in the league by a majority of fans (even if he was, in your opinion.)

    • @chrisbarnett5303
      @chrisbarnett5303 Před 2 měsíci +11

      If David Robinson is reading this, I care about you big guy. I care.

    • @viktorianas
      @viktorianas Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well... it depends, The Admiral had a VERY short peak, but he was better than anyone during his peak. He just never had his second high caliber star, no Kobe, no Wade, no Drexler, one man show until Duncan joined him.

  • @lukepayne7225
    @lukepayne7225 Před 2 měsíci

    Robinsons was a beast based on the eye test alone, and even more of a beast according to advanced stats like BPM and EPM. Thanks for giving The Admiral some love! One of my favorite players of the 80s, and criminally underrated.

  • @andredossantosalonsopereir6009
    @andredossantosalonsopereir6009 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I agree completly with this take, the Admiral rarely gets the recognition he deserves... I'd also say he influenced a lot the way Dunca played and how to behave as an NBA star. His influence on the whole Spurs culture in the Pop-Duncan age is fundamental
    Neverthless, I feel like Jamal Murray is still underrated a lot. Maybe people consider him to be under Jokic's shadow, but he is clutch as fuck and the Nuggets only managed to win once he got healthy. Maybe a good topic for a future video could be current players that are underrated

  • @davimm0220
    @davimm0220 Před 2 měsíci +1

    i thought it would be a moses malone video at first. many don’t recognize his greatness. but robinson is a good pick as well.

  • @oxthegentlemangentleman4100
    @oxthegentlemangentleman4100 Před 2 měsíci

    Spot on !!!

  • @yellyhayce9612
    @yellyhayce9612 Před 2 měsíci +1

    i think it would be awesome for you to do this type of video but for other positions as well. whenever someone mentions underrated, I think of dwyane wade. most non-casual fans would have him as the third best sg of all time, only behind MJ and kobe. however, it hurts to see casuals say that harden, ai, klay all rank higher than wade in an all time sg list

  • @yukondeighton8075
    @yukondeighton8075 Před 2 měsíci

    I definitely agree with this. I wasn’t following basketball during his career, so I never really watched him play. But the more I study the game and look at stats and what not, he is way way up there on a lot of efficiency stats. Number three all time in win shares per 48 for example.

  • @tpsam
    @tpsam Před 2 měsíci +2

    Just the spurs in general I would argue TD is also underrated most people think he is barely top 10 when he is actually easily top 7 and can be argued right next to Kobe and Shaq
    As a matter of fact most casuals put Curry over TD when there's really no reason at all

  • @user-qp6gr9xv7c
    @user-qp6gr9xv7c Před 2 měsíci +2

    Putting him in the Top 25 should be a no brainer. A strong argument could be made for Top 15.

  • @2KDUDE22
    @2KDUDE22 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would add Ewing to this list of underrated. He was a good scoring option and great defender and rebounder. He played with no one and yet always gave Jordan a run for his money in the playoffs.

  • @vernonleewarren280
    @vernonleewarren280 Před 2 měsíci

    I 100% agree with you on this one

  • @ONEDACASH
    @ONEDACASH Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks bro,,,my favourite player ever,,, ADMIRAL 💯

  • @khale4nia
    @khale4nia Před 2 měsíci +1

    Best David Robinson video on CZcams. Thank you #FiveOh

  • @cncaliguy09
    @cncaliguy09 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fact he took second role setup the dynasty, because he couldve complained, demand a trade. He was a leader and class act and in his prime served military. No player ever will make that sacrifice AGAIN. Admiral, we salute you.

  • @petriberndtson153
    @petriberndtson153 Před 2 měsíci +1

    John Stockton is one of the most underrated players of all time. He is the all-time assist and steals leader.

  • @davidmartinez52420
    @davidmartinez52420 Před 2 měsíci +2

    There is not a single center in the NBA today that is more athletic than The Admiral was in his prime

  • @jakemurphy3352
    @jakemurphy3352 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I agree but also Sydney moncreif John Stockton mark price Walt Frazier and I can think of quite a few others

  • @lawsnewton
    @lawsnewton Před 2 měsíci

    D Rob was Incredible! Love that dude!

  • @PuhiPureBloOdYT
    @PuhiPureBloOdYT Před 2 měsíci

    The Nike Robinson Force Pumps were sick af kicks too btw

  • @j-short5431
    @j-short5431 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What is left out of this is that the San Antonio Spurs were notoriously cheap during David Robinson‘s prime. They would often bring in, pass their prime over the hill veterans as his supporting cast. Players like Chuck person, Doc Rivers, Moses, Malone, or other players from the CBA.

  • @barnett0025
    @barnett0025 Před 2 měsíci

    Hey Jonny, could you do a video series on ABA teams and their history such as the Kentucky Colonels?

  • @Havoc0606
    @Havoc0606 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Jkidd (2 back to back trips to finals with a lottery team roster) klay thompson (4 time champion, two way player with a top 5 jump shot who somehow missed the top 75 list) and as crazy as it sounds Tim Duncan who is one Ray Allen shot away from being 6-0 in the finals.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 2 měsíci

      on the WEAK EAST COAST..those NETS wouldnt even make the play-offs in the WEST...

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 2 měsíci

      DUNCAN is overrated.

  • @stevelegreid
    @stevelegreid Před 2 měsíci

    He also is one of just a handful of players to average 2 blocks and 2 steals in the same season and he had a quadruple double. He also has some of the most underrated signature shoes, the Nike Pumps Woody Harrelson wears in White Men Can’t Jump

  • @purplejaek
    @purplejaek Před 2 měsíci +1

    He had it harder in the playoffs because he was the only great player on the team. Sean was a good player, but he wasn't going to take the offensive load. His highest season for points was a 20.0 pt average. Great teammate, but not enough when they are trying to make sure David couldn't dominate. Shaq had Kobe, Kareem had Magic (and other great players), Jordan had Scottie, etc. So when he finally had Tim, it was finally time for him to dominate, but sadly we only got Tim because David got hurt.
    David was one of the best, but because he was so good so fast, the spurs never really were able to add great teammates to join him. Plus that SA was even smaller of a market then than it is today. He had a 43.5 in vertical! The spurs learned from their organizational mistakes with essentially wasting David's talent (as far as winning championships goes) and they are ready to maximize Wemby with all the draft picks that they have.

  • @145rural
    @145rural Před 2 měsíci

    great great video! You could have also mentioned that the entire Spurs dynasty doesn't happen, with out him mentoring Timmy, and setting the standards and practices that lasted two decades after he retired. He showed every player how to act like a winner, and how to act like a decent human. Here's to you admiral, and to the few years we got of the twin towers of duncan and robinson.

  • @guru_basketball_kiero
    @guru_basketball_kiero Před 2 měsíci +1

    #GuruBasketballKieroSays Respect to you for you for acknowledging that you changed your mind a lot on whos your most underrated player of all time

  • @Eat-Z-Bugs
    @Eat-Z-Bugs Před 2 měsíci

    I went to one Basketball game in my entire life, (I'm over 50) and I watched Mr. Robinson (#50) score 50 on our T-Wolves @ the Target Center in Feb of 1994 I looked it up, and he then got 71 against the Clippers two months later.

  • @jd3thegreattm380
    @jd3thegreattm380 Před 2 měsíci +1

    He had arguably the second or third best regular season of all time

  • @alexlanza79
    @alexlanza79 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video for one of the best and most exciting center in the 90s. I remember him very well and contrary to he popular believe that today's players are way more athletic, David was it, I think that after Shaq in his early career, David is the most athletic center in the 90s I remember, just a notch above Alozo Mouring in my opinion.
    I don't know if he is the most underrated player ever, I think the more times passes the more many greats are just recognized by the rings and some not even than, but for sure David is on the top 5 most underrated to me at least for the late 80s and 90s like Larry Johnson or Shawn Kemp

  • @mr.longjohn0014
    @mr.longjohn0014 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Drob is one of my favorite players, easily top 10. but i see why so many people overlook him. as much as it pains me to say he’s easily one of the biggest playoff under performers from a superstar player. Constantly bounced early and has an inexcusable amount of under 50% shooting series despite being a center. still one of my favorite though lol.

  • @dannybachner899
    @dannybachner899 Před 2 měsíci +1

    He had a amazing prime, but a shortened career. Still he managed some crazy all time stats.

  • @bryantkapono420
    @bryantkapono420 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm from the Detroit area and people around here have always had respect for him
    I had no clue he was underrated because he's not here
    I guess it might just be different regions of the country look at players differently

  • @sidwalker4194
    @sidwalker4194 Před 2 měsíci

    Agree with everything you said about The Admiral. Additional points I'd like to make pertain to his maturity, unselfishness, & self-security. Very few NBA players who were first-option future Hall of Famers are willing to "turn over the reigns" to another player. Even when it's best for the team & they are pass their apex. Think A.I., 'Melo, Ewing, & Shaq just to name a few. His years as an officer in the Navy truly helped his development as a team first player. As impressive as his stats were, they still don't say enough about just how good he was. His top 25 all-time ranking is legit. I also have him ranked 6th best center all-time, only behind Kareem, Wilt, Olajuwon, Shaq, & Russell. And just ahead of Moses. Now if the Joker wins a 2nd title, I'll probably have to revisit this... 🙂

  • @ianmason2003
    @ianmason2003 Před 2 měsíci

    Agree completely.

  • @InternationalNico
    @InternationalNico Před 2 měsíci

    The Admiral…use to call myself Captain Swat when I blocked people shots because of this guy💯