How To Lean With No Fear
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- How to overcome fear when leaning a lot? Big lean angles indeed can be intimidating, but there are some ways to overcome the fear and make yourself pretty comfortable when leaning the bike, even on pretty big lean angles. We’ll go with a pretty straightforward method, by doing a special exercise for lean angles. It’ll allow us go from this state to this in several steps.
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A little info about me. My name is Andrei Bodrov, originally I'm from Moscow, Russia, and now I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Back in Moscow I was a motorcycle instructor and creator of Moto Control Beginner & Advanced motorcycle rider courses, which quickly became the most popular courses in Moscow (well, at least the advanced one😁). My advanced training course makes emphasis on slow speed riding techniques at first (such as good clutch and throttle control, proper riding posture, proper use of vision, etc.), then proceeds to more advanced techniques (such as aggressive braking, trail braking, maximal lean angle). The course incorporates a lot of exercises from DOSAF slow speed riding (similar to police rodeo like motorcycle training in USA), braking and cornering exercises and motogymkhana style riding. And now, since I actively learn English - I decided to post some useful videos for both your and mine practice!😉
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Since everyone writes this, it's necessary, I suppose 🤷, so here we go. Disclaimer: Ride at your own risk, you are responsible for your own safety. Me, Andrey Bodrov and my channel, Moto Control disclaim any liability incurred in connection with the use of riding techniques from this channel. Use common sense, wear full protective gear and ride in a safe and predictable manner!
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When practicing lean angels, most importantly, use someone else's bike.
Yep😆
Around here there are advanced riding classes to improve your riding. I did one last year regarding lean angle/cornering and altough i am riding since 2015 i felt much more confident after it.
The training is done on a bike with alloy wings to prevent any damage on the bike and the rider when having lowsiders and with this safety in mind i got to scrape footpegs and enginecover and learned how to get it up again once it starts sliding away (in knew in theory but theory and real life are way different).
As someone once said: you don't have "x" amount of years in riding experience, you have one year of experience "x" times.
Very helpful 🤣🤣
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'At first to stop fearing big lean angles, we need to understand that they are possible to do'
Yesterday, I have practiced lean angle. After first 10 circles continuously, i was dizzy and nearly dropped my bikes. Lol. But after that session, I felt so much more confident in leaning. The experience is so satisfying that makes me feel like I am Valentino Rossi, except from the cornering speed, lol. Thank you a lot for your course. It helped me tremendously.
It's the vision. Normally you stare deep into the corner, but since this is so tight you will get dizzy, but then you can turn around and go the other way or take a moment. I can do footpeg and knee down for a while now but I still practice whenever I can, and yes I also I get dizzy. Keep it up bro :)
@@dadwillfixit thank you very much!
@@patrolduty8715 I managed to scrub my brake pedal this way on my MT, without wanting....so the exercise is amazing, we just have to remember that just because we can lean now deep, that doesn't mean we should on public roads :D
@@dadwillfixit Yeah, Thank you for your notice. I will remember to lean only 50% max angle on the public roads as they are full of supprise factors :D I even want to use offroad cornering techniques on the normal road because I assume that they have almost no traction at all, hahaha. And it applies quite great when I try to "off road" in the parking basement of my building (the floor surface is smooth and slippery) :v So much fun :v
@@patrolduty8715 What bike are you riding?
I need to thank CZcams algorithms for showing your videos on recommendations list. I am a new rider, 38yo, quite “used” in other aspects, but new as a rider 😂, and your videos are helping me a lot gaining enough knowledge to experience the beauty of riding. Riding bikes was one of my childhood dreams, but life had different plans for me and I was not able to own a motorcycle until now. Good part is that over these years I have managed to accumulate a lot of useful information from different sources and now is time to apply it in practice. Your channel is of the best ones for advice’s and tips for riders and I have found a lot of very useful information in here. So thank you for your these videos and I hope I can apply as much as I can from them in the future, without any serious crashes 😄.
Thanks Bro, I am happy I have found your site. You have the best explanations. I have already improved the handling of my bike by practicing your advises. Cheers 😉
Thanks brother,will try this.Great content always,you deserve all the subscribes you get
man i love the way this guy describes stuff. funny yet gets the point across (speaking about the slider part). keep up the videos man
Always the best explanation and commentary of riding skills.
Very well said, thought out an demonstrated! I think new riders need to be told how IMPORTAT the part about being light on the handlebars is. This was a great video!
The best rule of cornering is: the slower you enter the fastest you can get out 😎
Yeah understood 😀☺️
Every single video is absoutely perfect. Thank you for everything you do!
Bravo. Excellent in both delivery as well as content. I love the jazz trombone in the lead out jingle too.
My favourite "how to" channel on utube.. keep up my friend
First of all, thank you. I ride for nearly 30 years now and I'm still learning and recycling my piloting technics by whatching your videos. I also appreciate very much your sense of humor.
I have one suggestion.
As much as every technical tip taught on your channel can be applied to a wide range of motorcycles, from standard UJMs, to Supermotards, like yours, there is always some specific "idiosyncrasies" of each type of bike.
It would be great if you could do some series of videos regarding the best piloting technics to specific genres of motorcycles like cruisers, big trails, sport bikes and so on.
All the best from Brazil. ✌
Hi! Glad to be helpful🙂 I'll try to figure something out about showing stuff on different bikes, here they are not readily available 😁
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Thank you for your response.
I'm totally aware that my suggestion is not an easy task because it depends on having access to multiple kinds of bikes.
It was just an idea that could enrich your already good video contents.
Nonetheless, I'm already grateful for what you have being delivering for us.
Hope you have a happy stay in Latin America.
Best regards from Brazil. ✌
Churning out quality content. Thanks mate!
Man your videos are super useful to me. I just bought my first bike last week and i'm learning way more from you than i did from the instructors at the driving school. One five minute video of yours is easily more informative than two hours on the road with the instructor.
I hope somewhere you learned to drag the rear brake. That was not mentioned here
Very useful My friend. Thanks for the tips
Hey Moto Control! Im a fairly new rider and lean angles have spooked me so far. Working on this. Would you be willing to do a video on common reasons why people crash on turn? I know theres several reasons (such as rear break, bad engine breaking) but would love to see you discuss it and things to do / avoid to do.
A wonderful video. Thank you for the content.
Great Tipp so easy way to do it! No one else tells you that way!!!
Great videos , really helpful
I really enjoy the slow speed technical stuff!
Great video very helpful
Fantastic! You're an excellent teacher. Cheers! 🍺
Looking where you want to go and throttle controll are really key when it comes to riding a bike. If you manage that, the rest will follow.
Also, thumbs up for wearing safety gear!
Great and informative and fun video, thank you!!!@
Hey just wanted to say thank you, today I was able to pass my MSF course
Congratulations!🥳
It's good to learn this, if you can get some form of frame sliders just Incase you drop the bike
Thank you!!
Great video
Andrey, you rock
I’m always learn something I don’t think about when watching your videos, thank you for your channel. One thing I don’t agree with is that you’re taking your right foot off of the pegs while turning at a slow rate, and I’m afraid someone Will think it’s okay to do this at high speeds, while traversing curvy mountain roads, which is very dangerous way to ride your motorcycle. Your skill, supersedes mine by 1000% and I’m jealous, but enjoy your videos so keep them coming and think about that one rider who thinks he can do what you do at a slow speed going 100 km an hour.
BSafe and blessings
Yes my foot peg sliders are worn out a lot. I should replace. Good idea.
It's perfect when give diameters of practice zone ;) now I know how to set it by myself;) good job... 👍
Thank you :)
I first rode dirtbikes on the beach, farm and mountains and i really hurt myself on a regular but those terrains taught me how to shift my weight accordingly, i couldnt do cool stunts but i could race like hell, my reflexes were on point and i was so nimble it was asif the bike and i were one, i practiced so much i got really comfortable hitting small jumps and berms and naturally i learnt to lean and countersteer. But bikes are very sketch you must never be chilled about it always have constant awareness and your throttle and brakes ready
Man, is that Argentina? Close to the Tecnópolis expo? I used to live 10 blocks away from there, 5 years ago, and used to go every weekend to make 8s. Good memories.
Greetings from Germany!
Man your Beta is awesome! I have a XT600 I wish it had sumo wheels!
Amazing
Prety helpfoul video. What model is the stripped down bike?
hey dude thanks for video, how about sportbikes? for example yamaha r6s? how to practice?
Hahaha _not disappoint to manufacturers guys_ excellent Video!!
Master skills ADV is Your passion
It's great
you are a very good instructor мой друг
Hi, I love your Beginer Riding course as I completed half of the excercises. Could you please provide a pdf that list full content of the video with timestamp so we can track and find lessions easier? Thank you
Hi! Yes, good idea! I'll try to make timestamps.
@@MotoControlEn Thank you for listening to your students. Can't wait to receive the update PDF as I watch your video on the phone while practicing at parking lot.
I'm a simple man. I hear a Slavic accent, I like and subscribe.
I used the countersteer a lot. Support on the outside pedal and lie down. It's too cool.
Its nice to know Im not the only one who sticks out my leg when I am leaning far at low speed.
for me its not so I can scrape the pegs more, its because i dont want to crush my ankle if I mess up.
Please do a tutorial for knee draging
Where you can inscribe to your courses in Argentina?
Accurate
Hello, I bought a FZ1 1000cc recently, it is a heavy bike and I'm will not lie, I'm fearful of that bike because of the weight, I do have full safety gear and I enjoy doing low speed stuff, what I fear more is dropping the bike and breaking it, I dropped twice on the first days thankfully it have some dropping protection, didn't dropped it anymore theses days, I also have a 150cc bike and in that I can do a lot of stuff but it is so light compared to the 1000cc, really feels I'm relearning how to ride all over again.
Just surprised you used feet and not meters ngl. Good info man, thanks!
How do you keep leaning more? To you keep applying more and more counter steer? So if you are at a lean angle and want to lean more you use more counter steering.
04:30 could you tell me how to hold the throttle while turning? I always open the throttle by mistake while turning left, thank you
I like this relaxed guy. Sharp contrast to that Motojitsu-guy.
0:32 you sure in this state I wouldn’t be falling off the bike?
The foot bar already on the ground 😂
When will you release the advanced course?
I'm working on it!
This weekend I went for my CBT and I was really afraid of tipping the bike over if I leaned even a slight amount, so I failed. I know I will be fine if I fall, I don't know why I'm afraid..! Not sure how I will overcome this
I wish my bike had some crash pad options. If i drop it I'm gonna fuck up my fairing and my signals even at slow pace
3:15 What if I have longer bike and fukcd up geometry (chopper, about 1780mm wheelbase, high mid pegs roughly same level as wheel axles) what diameter? 😁
At first clock wise or anti clock wise which is better for beginners?
Anybody could tell me when the bike is reaching its limit of leaning, almost falling, what would you feel from the bike. Thanks a lot
When he mentioned full riding gears, i missed my riding pants and boots which i never had. But i have the upper half😂
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Can I do that with Sportbike V2?
Are you staying in a neutral body position in this exercise or trying to counter lean? Thanks for the videos this is something I gotta work on!
Counter lean here is just for demonstration purpose, to show that the bike can lean a lot and nothing bad happens. Staying neutral is the way😁
You wind up doing the lean that you need to get everything to balance out. You probably wouldn't counterlean or lean this far at that speed under normal circumstances unless you need the absolute tightest turn possible and don't have the speed to make a neutral lean work.
That being said, you pretty much always maintain a neutral lean unless you have some reason to do something else. Neutral is easiest to transition from turning one way to the other and leaves you some ability to stand the bike up a bit if you've pushed it too far.
I've never really tried an exercise like this but I've noticed I definitely do not lean the bike the its limits during my street riding. I feel like this is due to me being cautious in the areas I like to ride in and not carrying enough speed to NEED to lean that far. I can't wait to do a track day this year and really see what it feels like to push my bike though.
I think its stupid to ride AT the exact limit of your bike on the street, tbh. Risk for little benefit (1 second faster through the corner, who cares?).
I think the main takeaway from practicing this is to know what your bike CAN do, if needed.
For example if you have a semitruck moving into your lane on the highway, you KNOW your bike can handle a very sharp high lean turn to avoid it, compared to if you didnt know, you might try to brake instead and end up hitting the corner of the truck (since braking uses friction that could be used to turn out of the way)
@@Baleur yeah 100% agree. There's no reason to ride st the limit on the street but yeah it's definitely good to at least know the limits. I plan on really doing that at the track this year anyways
@@Baleur yeah I'm just always nervous of possible loose gravel or sand in turns, making me take them at a cautious speed
@@justinnelson1 Good that you're cautious. I wasn't in college and literally lost my bike from under me taking a turn to fast with gravel. Be safe!
@@justinsugay1149 👌
Can you lean as far with offroad wheels??
Eso es Tecnopolis!
First of all, thanks so much for your videos. How can I buy your method?
I figured it out and I bought it. Thanks
Hi! Thank you, sorry I couldn't answer fast enough 😊
@@MotoControlEn thanks so much for your videos. I watched your course for beginners and i liked so much!
How to handle massive potholes?
Just had a lowsider today
Now to bring the fear equation back into it... On the street (lean angle = risk) 😋
Thanks Gary. 😂😂❤
high Lean angle on the street is 50/50 function or just aesthetics. I laugh in my helmet when the guy in front of me is hanging off the seat and I'm keeping up just shifting my upper body a little.
Hello. How can we fight dizziness when performing so many 360° turns?
Another one, what is your opinion on delaying the head turn? This is, to turn first, the turn your head, like so many gymkhana pros do?
Hi! I usually keep my head up and look very far, it helps a lot. If i look at the asphalt, I'm becoming dizzy pretty quickly. About "delayed" head turn I'll tell in the next video 😁
LoL I thought I was the only one who get dizzy when circling many times. I tried to look at the cone. So, as he suggest, we must look even further.
@@patrolduty8715 yes. I guess using the peripheral vision to get around cones
@@Elscroftz Yeah. Let's practice more and improve. Leaning excercise is so fun. I feel like I am racing head to head with a virtual Valentino Rossi, hahaha
Might be a stupid question but how do you get the bike back upright after you're done turning/ leaning
It's not a stupid question, it's a normal one🙂 You get the bike upright with counter steering: turn the handlebars more into the turn, and your bike will stand up. You can find the whole process in detail in the video about countersteering on my channel.
@@MotoControlEn thanks man, that's what I was thinking but I wasn't too sure. I'm getting a 2024 zx6r as my first street bike after years of only riding and jumping around on dirt bikes but we don't lean with the bike we do the opposite so it's a learning curve for sure
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So you say when it feels like my bike's gonna drop, it's actually not going to? The thing that prevents me from leaning even further is that feeling inside that "OMG, I'm faaaaaalling down". The actual moment of the bike leaning is very scary. Does this feeling just go away when you practice doing this?
Yes, your confidence will gradually grow if you practice little by little, like smart people do. Or you can do it my way - lean until it slides, this way you'll learn the limit much faster😁 Jokes aside - don't hurry, though this exercise looks very easy, it usually takes some time to master.
@@MotoControlEn I have a 390 duke same as you did before. I have powerparts crash bars installed. Any recommendations on what else to add to protect the handlebars and the rear half? Some fixed passenger pegs? How did you protect your 390 back when you had it?
I had crash bars and aluminum handguards. Mostly it was enough. The only problem that can happen if you drop with a lot of force - bars can dent the fuel tank a little. But mostly the duke is quite crashproof.
@@MotoControlEn cheers! Thanks a lot for finding time to reply.
I am a new rider. I learnt riding very quickly (in about 1 hour but took a week to have my hand set in it) but I lack in a area which is clutch ( I ride royal Enfield classic 250 80's edition ) . Since I learnt in heavy bike I don't have problem in controlling but I don't really have nice grip in clutch skill because I have seen people ride bike with whole clutch open in slow speed I tried doing it but my bike makes sound in it ,so is there any trick off to release it slow or what I don't know 😅
Practice, practice practice, that is the trick. Learn the clutch, but practicing starting from a dead stop, take off slowly, Stop, repeat. Then once you mastered where the friction zone is, then you practice making slow speed moves.This will probably take quite a few practice sessions.
@@spartanx169x I don't have problem in shifting and turning (polishing my turning skills still😅). My problem is that I can't ride the bike with my left hand off the Handel because if relase the clutch fully in slow speed then my engine make noise but when I ride normally it's doesn't make that sound so is it my bikes fault or is there a specific way of releasing the clutch to ride the bike in slow speed with full clutch open and even without giving gas
@@relaxgameing8395 The trick is to give it just a little gas and practice not accidentally moving the throttle while turning.
dude, how tall are you? 6'4"?
Hello, please help me. I am having problem learning how to drive my motorcylce. I have never ridden a motorcycle before, I previously just bought my first ever bike, it's a 200cc bike. I was mistaken, I should've gotten a smaller one for my first time. Anyways, it's there. I need to learn from it.
I always have a hard time leaning left and I always fall
Hi! I would love to help you with that, though it's pretty difficult to do without being there in person. But ask any questions, I'll try to answer them!
@@MotoControlEn What's the most efficient way to turn without occupying too much space? if I don't occupy too much space when turning I end up falling.
Anyways thank you so much for replying, it means a lot to me. You're literally one of my biggest inspiration in learning how to ride.
bro leaned so low he needed to remove his feet from his pegs. DEMON!
The most frequent cause of falls is not due to the position but because you don't know your bike and its limits
2:46 how true is this.
Love from INDIA bro 😎😎
mate, asado, dulce de leche, che, boludo. hacelo en español que es muy buena info y tus coterraneos se lo pierden por no saber inglés :(
muy buenas las speed demon! y alto curro el del curso online. Aca el que no hace plata es porque no quiere. saludos genio!
About the thumbnail it doesn't do well when i tried it to my ninja. My friends even called it the cringes bank I've ever done & it feels uncomfortable, maybe it only does well in normal motorcycles
If I drag a peg feeler around where I live it's likely to enter a pothole xD
And now, stunt tutorial videos!
My expertise ends up on wheelies and rolling burnouts, I can't do much else😁
@@MotoControlEn "Learning new things with motocontrol" lol, i think your videos are great man!
Even with touring tyres and bad body position at least 45 degrees should be safely possible
Train hard. Fight easy.
Amazing riding, just need to take a brave pill!
That's what those little nubs are on my foot pegs. I kind of thought that's what they were, but I've not touched them to the asphalt yet.
На превью спортивные слики на идеальном асфальте. Не делайте так никогда пожалуйста.
Всем здоровья.
Thanks to this technique I broke my legs in 2020 without crashing
That doesn't make any sense, to be honest. How could you broke both legs without crashing?
I misplaced my leg in a too tight turn and I broke it. I started screaming in pain while still on the motorcycle. When I stopped, I realized I couldn't put my leg down and had to throw myself to the other side.
I wouldn't have fear if my city had clean roads 😢, I've already slipped doing a U turn
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How do you break when practicing circles?
Dont unless its an emergency. Seriously, just ease off the throttle a little and let the bike slow itself.
One rider technique to shed speed while leaned in a corner is to twist the throttle open just a little more and at the same time use 1 finger to very lightly apply just a bit of front brake. You are trying to get the engine and front brake to struggle against each other just a little without shifting, increasing or decreasing the weight that is on the front forks.
@@pb222221thank you, this is very insightful. I appreciate the extreme practice requirements.
Now, as of the corner scenario. Lets say, you are on a long blind fast corner. As you come out into the apex you see an obtactle. How would you emergency break in that scenario?
@@temwananinkana3419 Depends on the situation but my generic answer is pull in the clutch while straightening the bike, downshift, apply front and rear brakes while letting the clutch out.
Emergency braking in a corner is a last resort. When people forget to straighten then they end up on the ground.
@@pb222221 very scarely but insightful.
From the thumbnail I'm saying that's not how you lean at all🤣 the leaning from the thumb nail is Motorcross (off-road) a complete different ball game. Road leaning is very different and alot more technical since you don't have ruts to work with.
The challenge I have is that my throttle is very sensitive. Even the slightest move will cause the bike to lunge forward to I'm constantly in the friction zone.
That's what the throttle control exercise is for🙂
@@MotoControlEn Oh I get it, but it is not easy. :)
Try gripping the throttle like you would an ice cream cone. It seems to help me have a smoother throttle response.
At low speeds, we moderate the speed with 1. keeping throttle a little above idle and 2. CLUTCH!
I didnt see anyone mention it but you can ignore 1st gear and start off in 2nd.
I could go into a million details about gear ratios and power curves but it would just be words on a screen. Just try it and you will notice an immediate difference.