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00:00:24 Connor only wears purple shirts
00:00:50 CZcamsrs are ruining Japan
00:04:50 Japan is unhinged on the internet
00:06:49 Getting arrested in Japan
00:16:53 Social media platforms should do more
00:24:09 Should parents go back to older teaching methods
00:28:35 Appreciating your parents when you're older
00:34:41 Disappointment is worse than physical punishment
00:36:19 Taking the kids to the bridge
00:39:00 Garnt only had to give it his best
00:41:38 Bokksu
00:43:03 When did we discover that our parents were people
00:48:17 Are we more like our mom or dad
00:52:20 We have coffee experts instead of builders
00:56:37 Instant coffee
00:57:58 Scooped bagel
01:00:46 Trends that didn't exist when we were growing up
01:02:28 Vegas didn't have beer on tap
01:03:44 La Croix
01:05:27 Connor kept taking Ls during Twitchcon
01:15:50 Connor couldn't get his stream working
01:19:50 Twitch Rivals
01:24:05 Being on a list
01:26:08 Going clubbing
01:33:08 Twitchcon could be better
01:41:56 Joey shaved his beard for Halloween
01:42:39 Halloween in Shibuya
01:46:17 More and more people want to visit Japan
01:47:22 Connor made a short about an onigiri place
01:51:17 Respectful people
"My dad would punch me, but in a way that it wouldn't leave any marks as evidence" - Joey, Anime Man (2023)
perfect with that pfp 😂
that edgeworth pfp lmao
My dad's a doctor, so he definitely knew how to not make it show. First was the right place, upper thigh, spanks, and bop on the head. Second was the punishment: the worst is to sit on your knees(seiza) for a certain amount of time. 2 hours was my record
But I was 5 so the worst part of sitting on my knees is the boredom
i know he meant that his dad did it more to scare him rather than actually hurt him, but it's so funny how badly he phrased it lol
Joey before shaving: THE ANIME MAN
Joey after shaving: THE ANIME BOY
*Josh the manga lad
The "Anime" is not accurate anymore dude. For obvious reason.
I shaved today as well, got trolled by friends 💀😭
Joseph the aussie lad.
He should drop the anime and just be “The Man”
Garnt trying to walk back the hole of “you should abuse the FUCK out of your kids” Joey and Connor were digging only for the two of them to double down was hilarious to watch. Garnt was really giving it his all and they were having none of it😭
I think Connor was saying more so in the line of instilling fear of being punished into your kid, which doesn't necessarily require beating. Meanwhile Joey just kept destroying his dad's reputation
There was no hole being dug. Joey is absolutely right
If anything, Asian parenting is THE WAY to ensure your kid is disciplined. Being too lenient to your kids is detrimental towards their development, just look at how many entitled adults recording themselves ranting about the most minuscule of problem on tiktok and twitter.
@@varnix1006 it’s not really lenient parenting to blame for this, it’s absent parenting. They threw their kids on iPads and had Logan Paul, idubbz, Ricegum and leafy do the parenting for them.
It’s not that they weren’t wailing their kids with paddles frequently enough, they just weren’t interacting with them in any meaningful way whatsoever.
The amount of parents who are probably going to borderline abuse their kids for the sake of discipline because they were taught by their own parents that it’s the only way to discipline your children is really scary to me. It’s just the easiest way to ensure your kid listens to you without having to actually build a healthy, respectful relationship, because you’re actually just building one on a foundation of fear that only really goes away when the kid grows apart from their parents
Garnt being the level headed one calming down Connor and Joey’s rant is so funny to me
Age is getting him
@@alondjecktoman's aging like wine
Monk calming Monki
The way he spoke about his parents, I can tell he had the best parenting done to him out of the three, and I'm honestly jealous he had such mature, calm parents.
I feel bad for Joey and Connor's kids. Typically you learn from your parents, not copy them. They seem to want to copy them.
I love the way Garnt brought up that the way Joey thought that his parents parenting was great and worked for him is a fallacy cause there is no one-size-fits all. Some parenting works on others and others dont
which also means 'modern parenting' is also fallacy. Some kids need physical discipline to discipline them, some are not.
@muhammadsaduddin308
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Maybe that's true but statistically it simply doesn't work for most children. How would you know if it works for yours? It usually teaches how to hide the bad behaviour so you might think it worked but in the reality you're just raising a good liar
Statistically the children who get hit also tend to learn that violence is a good way of solving conflicts
@@muhammadsaduddin308this 👏👏👏
@@muhammadsaduddin308"Modern parenting" is more versatile though and has next to no issues for the average child while physical discipline fails to properly work on most children and almost always comes with some kind of traumatic stress. The problem lies in finding out what your child needs and modern parenting is a great start to find out what your child needs. What many people don't know is that physical discipline (light forms of it) is part of modern parenting as well
Garnt's maturity is showing in this episode
Ye but I am concerned given his adhd (bc I experienced the exact same thing) that the "disappointment/did you try your hardest" thing could be a trauma bc with undiagnosed adhd during childhood there's functionally no scenario where you get to feel like you "tried your hardest". The condition works in such a way that you just about have to procrastinate bc the effort to get up and work (even if you have great parents and are motivated by them) is just more than for most other kids, to the point where you yourself feel that it's your fault even though it's physiologically not. And yeah grindset and all that but what he describes as the fear of disappointing them and being dissatisfied with himself to me looks like it could be the internalized understanding that his brain makes him "less than" or that he's not good enough.
But I ain't one of those parasocial people or anything 😂
@@Caleb-zl4wk also many people with adhd have rejection sensitivity dysphoria
Yes, the part implying/supporting bringing back spanking was a bit much. Glad Mudan (with his fact check) and Garnt with his monk energy rectified the situation a bit and switched the topic to more balanced discipline strategies instead. You can clown about anime and bread, but about violence, this is a bit preoccupying.
@@ShadowSolariscomments like these kill honesty tho, they shared their sincere thoughts based on their own experience, you can discuss the efficiency of these methods bht Idk it's right to say they are too much. That's the reality for many children
@@hanuka3292 they straight up said "please beat your children" thats not experience
The Fact that Connor’s Wall at Twitchcon cost $100K is fucking crazy, that’s a mental amount of money for basically nothing, man was robbed
For real at this point sit before the building ask the city if you can rent a small area in the street for few hours and it should not costal you more than 10K!
Like bro in some countries you could buy land and build a big house for less than 100k $. (Not possible in France where I live, but in Senegal the country of my parents you totally could).
@@ousou78Hi fellow french, glad to see some of us watching this dispite the trash taste boys hating us for some reasons
@@mrswag2866 We are everywhere !
Après rien de neuf, le French bashing a toujours existé chez les anglo-saxons 😁
@@mrswag2866 What do you mean "for some reason"? Two thirds of the main faces of this show are British, that's one of their national pass-times, I don't know if they could operate without ribbing the French at every opportunity. Try not to hold it against them too much, that particular bit of those islands is very skilled at spite, and you're their neighbors.
@@YourWaywardDestiny Still, makes me sad. Especially as someone from Brittany, we're pretty much the same thing. Lots of rain, crippling alcoolism, pubs and bars everywhere, and angry at things for no real reasons except boredom (our food's better tho)
With Garnt's parents teaching method of "I won't be disappointed in any grade if I know you tried your best" and his reasoning of "they taught me to be disappointed in myself for not reaching my full potential" is poetic and all...
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON THIS GUY LOVES ISEKAI AND ANIME IN GENERAL.
I read this comment at the moment he said that.. so weird
Wait, how is that connected exactly?
@@redjux04I think cos isekai allows the mc who usually didnt reach their potential to have another chance to reach it
His parents literally raised a protagonist.
@@Salman-xw8cp oh yeah that makes a lot of sense thanks dude
I’m really glad they talked about this topic, because trash taste will actually give alot of exposure to the topic at hand. Especially cos these guys live in Japan
Penguin0 already talked about it
yeah because i don't know anything about these streamers/youtubers
i love and watch trash taste. but you're overestimating their reach. there's still a large part of the world who don't even know the boys exist.
Honestly I'm embarrassed to go to Japan because of stupid and rude foreigners.
Asmongold also covers it, but its more meaningful for trash taste since as you said they are based in Japan. And chris vid on the topic was great as well
Joey looks so young without his beard, it almost looks uncanny on him honestly.
He looks great
also i love how the first thing he say is "i was a suck"
and did your dad beat you
i know i was gonna say the same
Oh that's why he looks so different. I knew something was off lol.
Joey's inner Asian-Australian heritage really came out this episode.
Tbf it sounds like his white dad was the disciplinarian in that household.
it's kind of worrying. I mean yeah, he is doing fine financially, and overall well in life. But what he told how his dad treated him, kind of reminds me of my dad and I am an indian. The boys did talk about when they realized their parents were human but Indians and most south asians don't even realize sometimes all of their lives. They just think forever their parents are gods and obey them to their deathbed. Of course, there are cultural, societal, psychological and so many other reasons that they think this way but it doesn't work in making their mental health any better and they just pass on these toxic traits to their children without any awareness. Their children suffer like crazy when they realize that they did not have a normal childhood and it takes a lot of work and pushback from your peers and friends to be a little more individualistic and choose a life for yourself.
@@jatinchanchlani8982 That's you probably projecting. Though I'm sorry you had to experience that. I grew up with similar parenting. Joey seems cool with his dad though, they seem close from what we've seen in his videos with him. Overall, I think Joey just grew up very sheltered in Australia, with strict but supportive parents. They seem cool with him being a youtuber. I can't imagine my parents doing the same.
@@jatinchanchlani8982sounds like you just have super traditional parents or somth cos I know very few Indians with super strict parents outside of India especially now that there are 3rd generation kids being born
@@jatinchanchlani8982 well, his dad wasn't like a super threatening trauma-inducing force or anything from what i can tell with what joey said in this video and from what we've both seen and heard from their interactions. it just seems more like his dad was just strict enough to make sure his kids don't turn out a fool when they grow up. like the thing where his dad would push him with his fist reminded me of this thing my dad did sometimes where he would push our (me and my sister's) forehead with his finger tips for basically the same effect where you would feel the force but no pain.
Also garnt nailed this debate about punishment on kids. There IS a very fine line between discipline and abuses, and you don't want to make your kid fear you or hate you (that how you end up in nursing homes)
Yeah I was just afraid of everything as a child because anything could get you a beating. Only staying in my room and quietly reading was free from punishment. It affected my entire life negatively. I refuse to do that to my kid.
I once without really thinking, told my kids how my mom wouldn't allow my toys anywhere in the house except my room and they said "that's really sad mom". I never realized how bad it felt to not be able to do anything in my own home except play in my room- until my kids said that. I find legos inside my shoes sometimes, sure it can be annoying if im in a rush but man does it feel nice to know my kids are living happy!
Truly on Garnt. It's interesting to me also how so many come away from being parented like that and are good with it. I can only imagine it was because as kids they felt they deserved it because they truly were just being little assholes, and their parents at least were decent role models otherwise.
But for me, while my dad would often lay down the law and sometimes make physical threats, none of his disciplinary methods actually did anything for me because I was already a well-behaved kid. I realized early on that he himself lacked discipline, doing things like getting drunk and making us stay out late when I needed to go home since I had school the next day. His use of fear was often just so that he could get things *his* way as the man of the house. So while he used fear to control, as an adult now I have very little respect for him beyond appreciating his past monetary contributions. I have no desires to communicate with him further, which my mother sometimes says depresses him (I'm not the only child who feels similarly). Sadly, you make your bed, you lie in it.
@@mcd08idk that rule seems nice to me, in this case you won’t lose your toys and your parents don’t have to clean up your toys after you
@@vindifferencesame here, except he contributed with a few DYI things instead of money. I now treat him like a stranger and mom told me he blames her for turning me against him.
Garnt really should've just said "I want my kids to fear how much they love me" lmao
That insult by Connor at 10:31 is one of the, if not the best one I've never heard. Straight up obliterated the guy even without him giving their name😂
straight up LTG level of insult lmao
@@badnarrator62instantly thought of LTG when I heard him going off
@@badnarrator62LowTierDawg
Joey with big “your dad shaved his mustache and you don’t recognize him anymore” energy
Exactly spot on with the comment.
10:33 "You provide less to humanity than the barnacles on a shipping boat." Damn, such a good insult, I need to use it.
It’s honestly a genuinely poetic insult and completely apt.
Garnt really helped save these conversations from going too far south down the abuse/being abused/trauma hole.
24:20 Yeah I kinda agree with that. One of the kids literally said "I'll get out in 30 days" there was no remorse, no sense of guilt, or anything. They were giggling and flipping the bird to the victims families it's insane how cold-hearted these kids were. I think another thing we still need to work on is honestly accountability. There was no morals, there was no remorse anything from these children just entitlement arrogance, and callous.
I'm pretty sure they're going to be charged as adults. We thankfully do have that in the U.S. when the crime is heinous enough and this most certainly applies.
Yes under Nevada law, criminals 13 or older can be charged as adults for murder/attempted murder - however the max penalty is 20 years in jail instead of the death penalty, which Nevada still has.
This definitely has to do with the message social media is driving into the youth and rather than a lack of beating more so a lack of parenting as a whole I am almost certain those kids rarely get to see both parents in the same room
Nobody deserves to be wrongfully imprisoned. No matter what
Jail should not be used out of malice.
@@arthurramirez5665 this is not talking about the guys in Japan this is in reference to a different story about the kids who filmed themselves doing hit n runs resulting in a death.
But also they aren’t being wrongfully imprisoned they committed the crimes and EXPECTED to get off easy
Thank you Mudan for instantly correcting the boys. 😆😂
The unsung hero of this episode
Garnt is gonna be a great dad.
to his wife's son
@@22I22uh yeah obviously he's going to be a great dad to their kid
@@22I22 not the NTR 😭😭
As a teacher, I can't exactly condone punishing children, but there has to be consequences to their actions to motivate them to do better.
the thing is by today standard what consequences can be consider not a punishment ?
Uh I mean punishment is literally just a human thing. It's where shame comes from, we have to enforce laws of social cohesion and punish antisocial behaviour (meaning abrasive behaviour, not when one is being shy or whatever) or things get very tricky. But physical punishment and anything non physical that rises to the level of abuse is not okay.
yep totally agree. Also Joey made a great point that punishment/discipline doesnt need to ever happen as long as the fear of discipline is instilled
Punishing children is exactly how human learns, they learn not to touch fire because it is punished by being burn.
Pain is the greatest educator of humanity in our entire history.
@@nurzaim6365 Jesus christ, I hope you never have children.
The parenting discussion was very interesting, and I loved Garnt's insight. The line between respect and and hatred is as paper thin as that line between discipline and abuse. And that's what makes parenting so hard, because you don't want to make your child hate you, but you also don't want them to end up as a bad person. It's also important to remember that some people are just innately are born a certain way, as well as the way people respond to each circumstances are heterogeneous. There are plenty of people who grow up in harsh and abusive households, who make their way into society as respectable human beings themselves (albeit a lot of emotional trauma and need for therapy), whereas others that grow up pampered all their life end up harming those around them.
The perfect comment doesn’t exi-
Joey casually incriminating his dad lmao
Time
I love how 10:00 Connor sat up straight held the mic and started looking into the camera trying to make sure if the dudes watching he knows how much of a pos he is lmao I felt the rage and disappointment
When they finally had kids this episode would either aged well or aged poorly
These last few episodes being late on Spotify have slowly converted me back to a CZcams watcher lmao.
the ads mid podcast are killing me
Same
@@jacknguyen2780I know right
@@jacknguyen2780True
@@jacknguyen2780 why they put so many sane repetitive ads through the whole episode every time on Spotify?
@26:15
it's sad because each of us remembers how we experienced the "physical" abuse. You remember a belt, I remember the smell of gasoline being poured on me or the impact of the back of an axe.
There is a better way to teach your kids, but the real issue is how much work demands from parents.
I'm so sorry you went through that.
Ya, I didn not like their take on this at all. You can discipline a kid without using violence and fear ffs
Agreed. I'm sorry this ever happened to you. The thing with most people is that they want kids to automatically start acting like adults, and so they punish children for being children. You can teach a child what's right from wrong without ever having to lay a hand on them.
I remember when my stepdad hit me the same way Joey’s dad apparently did. Not enough to leave a bruise but you could still feel the force. And idk, maybe Joey was used to it, and all the good moments he had outweighs any negatives, but for me that still hurt emotionally because I never expected it and it was just upsetting that my stepdad would get angry enough to hit me at all, even if it was lightly. I’m sorry what you went through though.
I don't know how I feel- I want to hope you're joking so this didn't happen to you but it would mean you're making up such a serious story. At the same time, I don't want to think that this happened to you, but I think it did and I'm sorry you had to go through that.
I have to say Garnt seems to be the most sensible amongst the three of them...
Not hard when you're the only one going "uhh, don't hit your kids" and the other 2 are going "beat them more!"
He was a monk
Can't believe they got Josh the Manga Lad to be a guest in this episode.
It’s funny how Mudan was like “fuck that” when they were talking about spanking lol
I also saw a vid of someone screaming about beating their wife when they misbehave or disrespect him and the twist at the end was when he said “that’s what yall sound like justifying beating children”
I'm glad he put that card up
@@DG-gx8pn There is a huge difference between those 2 scenarios. One involves 2 adults who should know better. The other involves kids who behave badly because they don't know better. If one goes unpunished, the consequences are bigger. All adults should know how to act when..., well, they become adults! Also, when people say beating a kid, they do not mean beating them to a pulp. That is just making a bad faith argument. It is about spanking. I cannot believe I have to explain that LOL.
@@elvisvasquez7553 Any sort of physical punishment towards a child is abuse, it doesn't matter if you're beating them black and blue or giving them a spanking.
Abuse is abuse, period. (not saying one isn't clearly worse than the other, but the point I'm making is if you have to lay your hand on your child and cause them physical pain intentionally, then you are being abusive whether you mean it or not)
@@elvisvasquez7553 To clarify I am pretty neutral on this topic but this “they do/don’t know better” argument is kinda a bad one. So you would hit someone who doesn’t know better instead of verbally communicating with them? I don’t think potentially marring innocence with physical contact when you could easily use your brain and communicate is the better option tbh. And there’s good a bad people who have been beat as kids so it’s not a 100% foolproof thing to do. Bad argument imo
The moment I realise that my parents were normal humans was when I started to realise how money worked and the sacrifices my Dad had to make to get me and my brother all the stuff we needed or wanted and that my mum eventually started working in order to help him out too. I also feel really bad knowing all that now, because as a kid, you just think they have infinite money. My parents joke that their best friend was VISA. I make sure to treat them whenever I can though. They wanted to go on a holiday but their pensions couldn't comfortably help them so I just booked it and got them a 5* hotel for good measure. It is something I can finally do for them.
good job dude, very respectable
"did I turn out ok because of my parents or in spite of them?" is so real. I wanna say I don't believe any child can be a crappy person without some outside influence but I turned out the complete opposite of my parents despite them being very self centered and homophobic and closed minded lol. nah but really I don't think a child can be evil, just traumatized. my nephew was diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder but it's SO clear to me that he's just acting out because he has a lot going on in his mind due to ptsd (diagnosed) and his single mother neglecting him. everyone calls him a brat and it makes me so upset because he's literally just a kid. his mom barely acknowledges his existence half the time and the other half the time she's yelling at him and spanking him to get him to behave. I rarely saw her showing affection to her kids when I was living with my family. her daughter is a bit older and seems a lot better at least, but it feels like she switches between being really shy and kind of having an attitude and I'm worried about her too, can't be healthy for her living in that environment. I thought about contacting CPS about my sister's treatment of her kids but I can't guarantee they would have a better life with a foster parent because they can be pretty bad too and probably wouldn't know how to deal with a kid with ODD. I think my sister likely has some undiagnosed mental disorder that causes her mood swings and I like to believe that if she just got help she could learn to be a better parent for her children. I strongly believe that anyone can get better, it just takes the willingness to do so. can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves, unfortunately.
growing up I so firmly believed that my parents were good people. I'm the youngest of 5 and as a kid I saw my teen sisters go through a rebellious phase and fight with our parents because they took away CDs that were "too unchristian" (it was just pop punk music) and a lot of other probably messed up scenarios I can't remember. I remember my parents taking away my sisters' doors when they really misbehaved. 2 of my sisters dropped out of school and the other never went to college after promising she would for the longest time, all of them got pregnant before marriage which my parents believe is sinful lol. I swore as like a 10 year old that I would never be like them, that I would behave and always listen to my parents... that didn't work out LOL. I went from being the unusually quiet obedient kid to not doing any of my school work (undiagnosed adhd made me unable to focus and it just got worse over time for some reason) and sneaking on the internet to get groomed by strangers, getting into self harm and trying to kms a few times, went thru a phase of hating my parents, now I'm queer and don't exactly hate them but don't want anything to do with them either. they're just not the kind of people I vibe with. my brother absolutely loves our parents and it shows, and I feel so bad that I just don't feel the same way at all. but like, it took me SO LONG to accept that it wasn't me that was the problem. I legitimately believed I was "born broken" or that I failed my own parents somehow? like mf you are a CHILD how is raising yourself YOUR responsibility and not your parents' lmfao. I kind of resent them for the trauma they gave me but I know they're just entirely unaware of how bad of parents they really are, and they're old and I've moved states so at this point it's like, well I'll just let them continue living in denial. I won't gain anything by telling them how they've hurt me, I don't hate them or wish any harm on them or anything, but I don't love them either. I just want to live my own life and heal on my own and I have been doing so since I moved out a couple years ago and it's just so nice being on my own (well, I live with my bf, but I mean away from my family). like I can finally be at peace. I'm just glad I didn't turn out to be a carbon copy of them repressing my trauma for the rest of my life and repeating the cycle by abusing my own children, and that I have the chance to heal from my trauma and all the mental crap I have going on and just be my weird silly self :)
It's mostly Kick streamers. A streaming site so vile, it was only created for its parent company to promote gambling. Literally for people that would do anything for money.
Lol Lil bro virtue signalling as if Amazon is some moral paragon of a company. Either you’re 12 or just dumb imagine running defence for a multi billion dollar company
Let's not pretend Kick is the only vile streaming site. There's always an evil in the way any of them handle anything either for funding, human rights violations of parent companies, sheltering criminals, or making things a nightmare for content creators.
eh, it has happened on all social media sites - drama is the best way to drive clicks and pretty much all governments around the world at the moment are trying to grapple with the impact it has had on society. IMO legislation needs to be made which punishes social media sites for driving this type of content
@@luvhair255But to be on national news and trending negatively on twitter on months consecutive? Only Kick streamers are doing it
@@luvhair255I don't get this type of response. It's like someone saying, "cancer is a horrible disease" and then replying to that person with "let's not pretend cancer is the only disease that can kill people". Like yes, thank you for the perspective shift, but that doesn't change the fact that cancer is still a horrible disease.
So yes, it's technically true that Kick isn't the only problematic social media site, but it's the only one that actively promotes and condones problematic content. The whole point Kick was trying to promote is that it's less strict than other streaming sites like twitch, when it comes to the content they host, which includes gambling. Not to mention they openly sign content creators that already got banned from other sites due to already problematic behavior on their previous site. Heck, the face of their platform is Adin Ross and xQc, I feel like that alone is a red flag.
I'm from Singapore and Before going to japan, i did my best to learn japanese. A few of the restaurants owners in Tokyo and Yokohama are impressed and thank me for respecting their culture. I'm a strong believer of Japanese culture
I'm so glad Mudan or whoever was editing put that disclaimer in, because all physical discipline is is literally positive punishment (presenting a negative stimulus), my question is then why not use a stimulus that doesn't involve pain and violence? Or use negative punishment, taking away something they like. You could also see it as classical conditioning, in training your kids to associate bad behaviour with pain. But just like the editor said this is harmful as it doesn't seek to understand where the bad behaviour is stemming from (is there a problem at school, are they being bullied etc) and doesn't train the child to actually understand their behaviour, why it was bad and why it's morally wrong to do it. It's also important to realise that kids are not mini adults, they perceive things and have totally different logic systems to adults. You have to think like them, you can't expect that what you think makes sense will make sense for them. You might say I'm overreacting but imo it's that societal normalisation and blurring of lines that genuinely leads to abuse in some households.
Parents resort to physical discipline probably because they're too tired or busy to use other methods, that are by far healthier and more constructive. But this isn't a good thing and shouldn't be normalised. There are also plenty of ways to be authoritative and make your kids respect you without hitting them...maybe find a better way to parent or just use a damn condom. The most common arguement I see is 'well it worked for me', but not everyone is you. People are different is so many ways and just because some of you turned out reasonably well adjusted doesn't wave away the countless who didn't. And people love to bring up stories about kids doing bad things, but don't want to acknowledge how violence in childhood leads to some of this behaviour as well? It's a double edged sword. Again I'm not saying you should be soft with your kids, just that there needs to be balance.
Come back to us after your kids step over your head and become absolute cunts in society just because you don't wanna discipline them.
I feel so bad for Connor. I work at a hardware store. He got scammed on his booth.
Kudos to diy’ers lol there’s his sign to do it!
Bro that line by Joey about radiation = GOATED!!!
It never really clicked that all three of the boys grew up in an environment with both parents until the "seeing parents as superhumans" conversation. Growing up, I never really had that outlook of seeing either parent that way. Whether this was a positive or negative, personally I honestly cannot say.
Were you in the kind of environment where you had to take care of your parents/be the responsible one?
@@screamtheteam12345 I was the youngest, and only son. I was raise somewhat strict and had to be the responsible one. That being said I didnt have to take care of others. To sum up childhood one thing my mother said on my 10th birthday still sticks with me. "You're 10 years old. You're not a kid anymore. Act like it".
Emotional neglect....
I could go on a whole rant about this but I agree, never special to me and lately I pray for whatever kids out there have the same kind of family cause fucking dammit I know other people do not have the mental fortitude for this shit.
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the part where joey saying that his dad punched him as a child and describing him as a "force to be reckoned with" is low key kinda disturbing
I think fostering compassion and empathy in children so they don't do bad things is the optimal method but even I admit that doesn't always work and kids can blow that off and not get it like I did. So when that fails you go the discipline route of enforcing consequences to them being a shithead. So losing certain privileges or being made to make up for what they did. Stuff like that seems sensible.
Yeah. I mean, I think if you raise your kids right they shouldn't *want* to run people over. Even if they don't have to worry about consequences.
You can tell Connor is fucking pissed 🤣
he is a drama queen.
@@MrNajibrazakoff course
Being upset about having foreign youtubers trashing your riputation as a whole in a country where they start saying the most racist shit when a foreign does stupid stuff is unjustifiable.
I bet you're a fиcking American who never left his hometown
Though I get the idea of Connor and others to administer laws which makes perfect sense which is not discriminatory and filled with prejudices but they should not forget that foreigners must follow and respect the local laws. The Japanese local law is ideally made while keeping Japanese culture and Japanese people in mind. So foreigners should not bring in their unnecessary foreign values which may jeopardize the local culture. If a foreigner doesn't like it they should not visit and live in Japan.
Yeah if I spent years cleaning my house then out of nowhere some big idiot shit all over it I'll be fucking pissed too
Foreigner gonna have real bad reputation after this fiasco I imagine.
@@pimplejuice Respecting culture and history is not the same as curating a passive view of a first and second class based on arbitrary things that can not be changed.
Very unfortunate that the bad apples are making life harder for the CZcamsrs/streamers that are respectful and not disruptive.
I'm Japanese, and sooo glad that boys talked about this topic😢
Connor could've probably paid his dad and he would've done a much better job for that booth
Always love the 2 hour podcast, great way to kill time at the job
Same lol
Mee too man
Which jobs do you all have? 😄
@@natalian.1320office desk jobs can be a lot of sitting around. Most of the time you could get the work done in a few hours but they insist on you filling the whole day
@@natalian.1320 draftsman (architectural stuff) 😁
I love that half of this episode was just inside info from Connor about TwitchCon. It was really awesome getting a full hour of his opinions, I loved it.
Spanking did nothing for me and my mam. She just learned to be sneaky about disobeying her parents. I learned that I really didn't like family touching anywhere near my butt and bits, and distrusted them for using physical discipline, for a short while afterwards. My mam says talking to me was more effective.
As for the difference between respect and fear, it is not a fine line. It's a pretty big difference. Respect is when you don't want to do something because you value someone's opinion. Fear is when you do anything and worry about how they'll react.
One can beget the other, but they are very different. I controlled my peers through fear, and when I let them see that good behavior got someone who can be joked around with, they began to respect me as a human being. And I was able to respect them as people who are conscious of the people outside of them and their friends.
That sounds like it was a bit more than just spanking to me.
@@bandohjfusion4885 This might be a little TMI, but I think I needed to clarify, because OoPs. That can be interpreted as pretty baaad!
*TL;DR:* No, it was just spanking. My parents tried it, it failed, and I had weird thoughts about it.
*The Long AF version:*
The weird thing is, it _was_ just spanks. The reason I didn't trust afterwards was not because of _that kind_ of child abuse. Both my parents have experiences with SA, and my father taught me to kick adults in the crotch if they tried to harm me. I don't think either of them would have done anything like that, and I have no memories that would imply they did.
I'm trying to think of why I was particularly perturbed. I think it just pissed me off, because I've always gotten angry after I get a little hurt. So them using that as a discipline made me think less of them?? I guess???
Which is hypocritical, because _I_ used pinches to get my classmates to behave, even if it was an arrangement we agreed upon beforehand. And I don't know where I came up with that, because my parents almost never used physical punishment on me. I literally only remember getting spanked once. Maybe that was enough for my brain to use controlled violence as discipline.
And I overall just didn't like family touching my torso and lips. I was aware of that stuff from a pretty young age (asked how babies were made at 4, had a swimming class, and barbies), so it was kinda like if your parents spanked you as a teenager. It's not the pain that bothers you, but the humiliation and weirdness, because _that stuff_ is uncontrollably haunting your brain.
I hated if a kiss on the cheek nearly got too close to lips, because incest is a very gross concept. I think that must've been it. My brain really didn't want to accidentally get anywhere near incest.
...Maybe it was because my parents told me our dog might've been sired by her half-brother, and I was really skeeved out by that. That must've been when I learned about incest.
Sorry this is so, so long, I just want to make it clear, I'm not a victim of _that,_ and I was literally trying to figure out why I was so weird about it as I was typing. No need to worry about me.
Jeezuz fucking christ, I wrote a goddamn essay.
@@bluelfsumasimply (and not that simply) a child's mind is very malleable. One slip up leads to events, behaviours, phrases, reactions being imprinted on them. I have VERY vivid memories of impactful stuff my parents did, the firsts of ALL the shit that changed my view of them and I bet you do too. They do not think much of it and yet it almost irredeemably shifts the dynamics in the family. They accept it as the new norm and do not realise that it is very easy to slip into a spiral of negativity by following this path. The only thing I'm grateful for is that they showed me how it works and I'm grateful that I had the presence of mind and the maturity of understanding it. But that's besides the point cause it'll lead to more wall texts 😂
For the record: its bad to hit your kids when they do something wrong. It doesn't help, it can only make the problem worse and can leave the kid with lingering trauma that they will have basically for the rest of their life. A trauma that they will pass on to their kids if they don't unpack it. This isn't me speculating, this is an accepted conclusion within the fields of psychology and childhood development. Don't hit your kids. Be a responsible but firm parent.
You can punish without hurting. It just takes a bit more effort then most parents are willing to put forward and it requires them to not be emotional.
And honestly, I'm not convinced that this is really a epidemic of bad behavior. Aside from a small spike during covid, crime as a whole has been on the decline. I think the problem is a few people who exhibit antisocial tendencies being gassed up by people on the internet. Then you get a sampling bias where the most egregious examples get the most attention (because they are egregious) and then because everyone is talking about them, the incidents feel far more common then they really are. To make matters worse, the people who have antisocial tendencies see others with those same tendencies acting badly and getting attention so they are more likely to become copy cats.
Ultimately, I think its a mental health issue. We need to take the mental health of kids more seriously (which means specifically _not_ hitting them) as well as the mental health of everyone. We need to be on the look out for behavioral red flags and focus on the people with those flags. We need more teachers and smaller class sizes so that teachers can make one on one connections with their students and students can do the same with other students. We also need to socially support people in our communities because things like poverty exacerbate societal problems (there's a lot of research that suggests that economic disparity has a large causative effect on crime rates and that poverty has a causative effect on criminality).
Everyone also needs to get out more. That means less time on Twitter and Tiktok and more time engaging with your local community. Talk to people who are real and physically in front of you. The majority of people are normal people who are just trying to get through their lives. Our modern society is very atomized right now, a lot of people are disconnected from those around them and as a result a lot of people have a hard time empathizing with others. No one has friends, everyone is lonely, third places practically don't exist anymore or have been heavily commercialized. Meet your neighbors, go to community events, get involved in your local politics, talk to your coworkers, hang out with people in person, chat with your waiter/cashier. I know its hard, but it gets easier as you get used to it, trust me. Don't worry about saying something stupid or awkward because chances are they won't even remember in a day. If they do remember and they're a dick about it then you probably don't want to talk to them anyway.
Not that I disagree with you, but you never gonna get any of that in a capitalist society
Agreed. What kids need is clear communication. They need to be taught that actions have consequences, yes, but hitting them is never the answer. If anything, that will only either make them more reluctant to be honest with their parents, or make them even more rebellious.
As someone that works in public transport, i firmly believe there is an epidemic of bad behavior going on.
People (usually aged between 14 - early 20s) have 0 respect for the rules and my colleagues, the moment they get caught breaking the rules they get verbally and sometimes physically abusive.
And these aren't rare occurrences, this happens to me and my colleagues multiple times a day.
It was never this bad until a few years ago.
I was with you until the last paragraph, I feel like every time I leave the house I nearly get run over by someone
Have you ever heard of 'Mean World Syndrome'? It's an effect where people think the world is more dangerous than it it due to frequent exposure to disturbing stories in the media. The level of media we consume these days is astounding. They say that the average person in 1987 consumed about 42 newspapers worth of information, by 2007, the number had risen to 127 newspapers worth; more than ten years on I can only surmise that that number has risen. Among all this information, negative information rises to the top. Negative stories get more exposure, because people are evolved to always stay on guard for any threats to themselves or their communities.
One effect of Mean World Syndrome is the rise of overprotective parenting, ( particularly in the 90s as sensationalist media and tabloids rose, thanks to Ronald Reagan deregulating the media in various ways) as parents were inundated with stories of kidnappers and pedophiles, seemingly ever increasing, even though, statistically, such crimes were on the decrease.
Overprotective parenting, far from keeping kids safe, can make their lives worse and make it harder for them to deal with adult life, and even lead to or exacerbate certain mental health issues. There is a book I read (Stolen Focus b Johann Harri), that went into this quite well. He was focused on the effect that overprotective parenting and a lack of unsupervised play may have on children's attention spans, but I believe you can extrapolate it to other areas in life.
"What skills are kids learning there, as they play freely with each other? For starters, if you're a kid and you're on your own with other kids, 'You figure out how to make something happen,' Lenore says. You must use your creativity to create a game. You must then convince other children that your game is the best to play. Then 'you figure out how to read people enough so that the game keeps going.'. You have to learn to negotiate when it's your turn and when it's their turn-- so you have to learn about other people's needs and desires, and how to meet them. You learn how to cope with being disappointed, or frustrated. You learn all this 'through being excluded, through coming up with a new game, through getting lost, through climbing the tree, and then somebody says, "Climb higher!" and you can't decide if you will or you won't. Then you do, an it's exhillirating, and then you climb a little higher the next time-- or you climb a little higher and it's so scary that you cry... And yet: now you're on top. These are all crucial forms of attention."
"One of Lenore's intellectual mentors, Dr Isabel Behncke, told me that the scientific evidence so far says that 'there are three main areas of child development where free-play has a major impact.'"
"'One is creativity and imagination--it is how you learn to think about problems and solve them. The second is 'social bonds'--its how you learn to interact with other people and socialize. And the third is 'aliveness' it's how you learn to experience joy and pleasure. What is learned during play is not a trivial add-on to becoming a functioning human being, it is the core of it. To be a person who can pay attention fully, you need a base of free-play."
"But suddenly we have been taking this out of kid's lives. Today when kids do get to play, it is mainly under adult supervision, who set rules and tell them what to do. On Lenore's street when she was a kid, everyone played softball and policed the rules themselves. Today, they go to organized activities where adults intervene all the time and to tell them what the rules are. Free play has turned into supervised play, and so-- like processed food--has been drained of most of its value."
"This means that now, as a kid, Lenore said, 'you're not getting that chance to develop these skills--because you're in a car being driven to a game where somebody tells you what position you're playing, and when to catch the ball, and when it's your time to hit, and who's bringing the snack, and you can't bring grapes because they have to be cut into quarters and it's your mom's job to do that... That's a very different childhood, because you haven't experienced the give-and-take of life that's going to prepare you for adulthood.' As a result, kids are not having the problems and exhilaration of getting there on their own.
One day, Barbara Sarnecka, an associate professor of cognitive sciences at the University of California, told Lenore that today 'adults are saying: 'Here's the environment. I've already mapped it. Stop exploring" But that's the opposite of what childhood is.'"
I'm saddened by the lack of "Hey son" comments from Joey's "dad"
Sorry to hear that your twitch con experience had so much troubles Connor but had alot of fun drawing at your booth! would love to do it again and glad to hear you had fun in vegas
0:32:48 I so appreciate Garnt pointing this out because it is so true. What works for one person, won't necessarily work for someone else. Everyone is different and it's something parents need to think long and hard about when it comes to discipline of their kid.
With all things considered Connor spent over 100k for the board setup at Twitch con??? That's actually absurd
Glad to see classic Joey again.
Joey's dad only showed 1% of his power
I guess joey is staying on the bridge tonight.
It’s good the guys talked about it as it is unfortunately happening in these countries that ppl do heinous crimes
I’m glad to see many people speaking out about this
This episode was WAY more about our boys showing their age and developing maturity than any of the other topics covered.
Never been to twitchcon or any con, but this was quite the insightful episode. Learned quite the lot.
24:15 that part I have been agreeing with this since around 2017 there is a HUGE difference between "beat ya kids" if they do something very wrong and "child" abuse which is a beating for literally no reason.
The bridge story made me realize Joey and his sister's bedtime stories would've been a mix of German and Japanese ones
Yep, they definitely were well-behaved kids alright XD
That story combination just feels terrifying. Just imagining Suppenkasper but the soup itself has some horror element in it like it being a yokai or something, *shivers*.
@@ssjrana7342some junji ito shit 😂
This was a really solid episode! Thanks, guys.
Haven't watched the video form in a while - the little fact checking pop ups are really cool! Great precedent to set, I hope more video podcasts will include this.
i really disagree about using fear to discipline children, no child should be afraid of thier parents, they should respect them (which goes both ways) not fear them. im not a psychiatrist, but i think its an unhealthy dynamic to have and can cause trauma and mental health problems down the line.
agreed. you can't have fear in any safe or loving environment. they just don't go together. you can teach boundaries and how to respect people without having to resort to fear.
disagree*
I think so aswell. Fear is not good. Your children should be able to come to you when something bad happens or they need help. They won't do that, when they're afraid of you.
Agreed. I was so afraid of my parents that I didn't tell them shit about my life. They know almost nothing about me.
they should fear punishment though. Punishment should be as harsh as the act maybe slightly more so to get them used to stopping themselves.
This episode felt like 'Men will do anything to not go to therapy' - the experience
The perfect analogy for what Garnt was trying to describe about dissapointing your parents is the Simpsons episode were Bart get caught stealing a videogame and Marge give him the "cold threatment"
Perfect time for them to talk about on going topics which needs to be addressed at. And what's perfect than listening from the boys views directly. Would be a fun and one.
Connor I am a Las Vegas local I am saddened to hear that you couldn't find a good beer while you were here for twitch-con. We have a huge beer scene here in Vegas but it is located off the strip. Next time any of you trash taste guys are in Vegas try venturing off the strip to The arts district, and Summerlin. The arts district hold a multitude of craft brewery's! Love what you all do glad to see you coming to the US. (PS: The best things in the US are the small things ask the locals what to look at.)
17:43 "In a country like Asia" is the most American thing to hear from an Australian.
It's just a Freudian Slip
I think he meant “country in Asia” so he said it wrong but that is what he meant. Because after that he went on to name some Asian countries as examples
I’m less than 30 minutes into the episode and I already know 1) this episode is gonna go over like a fart in church and the internet is gonna have a field day with this, 2) There’s gonna be a lot of out of context clips from this episode at the next Trash Taste Awardw, and 3) I love this episode 😂
Worst episode yet
Soo true
The absolute state of connor's wardrobe
I'm pretty sure that harassment is straightforwardly illegal.
Man it feels nice hearing y’all talk about current events.
I would be careful with making your kids afraid to disappoint you, I was really abused by a partner in highschool for like 3 years and had some fucked up shit happen to me, and I didnt tell my parents for 3 years because I didnt want to disappoint my dad and I honestly had been gaslit into believing it was my fault
To make it clear to those who think it was just about breaking up or something, by abused, I mean abused. We only dated for 6 months or so, and the worst of what happened came after.
"partner in highschool" 💀
Sorry to hear that. Hope you got the help you needed. :>
@@whitygooseoh my god what is it with you people. You know what they meant.
@@whitygooseDo you... think high schoolers don't date? Or do you think high schoolers are incapable of being abusive assholes? Because I kind of thought both of those things were well known phenomenons
Grow up@@whitygoose
Can confirm, it feels so good to build your own table
This is a great topic really inspiring how i can be the best parent I can be. Its weird to see your guys perspective on how much respect and fear you had for your parents them being perfect and what not. I feel like i only had fear for my parents and very little respect for them now i have more respect for them as I now have more parenting experience realizing how hard it is to be a parent.
The whole parenting issue especially in the US is a mix of parents defending the child’s behavior and as well as the weight of the crime, most crimes are really just a slap on the wrist and it will keep being a slap in the wrist until like those kids who killed that guy on the bike and everyone wondering what it led up to this, nobody taking responsibility and the punishment being a couple hundred dollars or a few weeks in jail with no real consequences until it’s too late
You get beat in your childhood and when you become a parent you think "I don't want my kids to go through that" so you don't beat your kids for anything. Then those kids grow up into assholes who either get beat up till they die or end up in jail, or beat their own children because they never got beat.
It doesnt help that certain people are lowering punishments for certain crimes and certain demographics in certain places
@@jsi1091 I am convinced and will change my beliefs and opinions. Thank you.
@@jsi1091then you are part of the problem
@@silbury2325 i think you skipped a big part about kids growing up into assholes? how does that happen, and does that really have any sort of correlation between not getting physically punished as a kid and growing up into good for nothing assholes?
I realized my parents were human beings when they started asking me to fix their computer whenever it broke, because they had no clue how technology works.
Some really great conversations in this episode
great episode really chill
Feel like Joey’s values regarding the idea of parenting highlight exactly why you should never lay your hands on your children. That generational trauma runs deep and affects each generation after the last until someone breaks the cycle. Just because it can work out doesn’t mean you should ever do it
This is so true. I have a friend whose dad was an absentee father, used to do a lot of drugs, then come home and yell. One time even threw my friend's guitar to the ground. My friend hated his dad and said he would be different when he has kids.
Now he's grown up, and just like Joey he thinks his father was right for hitting him, thinks it made him turn out a proper man. He also smokes copious amounts of weed and cigarettes. And the last time we talked about parenting, my friend said his would-be wife would do all the parenting and he wouldn't' waste his life on his kids.
Massively disappointing development, he's becoming like his father and his kids will see a repeat of the cycle. People like him or Joey don't even realize the trauma, they've internally normalized it and think none of this is fucked up. They say they turned out okay and it's not trauma, but then they beat their kids too.
The fact that Joey and dozens of people raised like him turned out great proves that its a good parenting method. It gets the child to think, be responsible and be matured.
@@greyfox4838Your friend's dad was abusive and irresponsible, Joey's dad disciplined him responsibly. They are not the same.
The sad part for the CZcamsr who made that Japan trip for free video was that I first saw him in the MrBeast video with Lamborghini, and it looked genuine that he won and hugged Jimmy since he wanted to be like him. Then later, he did sh*t like this and that horrible thumbnail (also not to mention trying to hug Elon Musk)
I just love having you guys to listen to in the background
My Mother physically and psychologically beat me till I was 18.
Now she has no friends, no husband, and her kids (including me) don't speak to her.
She'll die alone, and now she's a lot older she knows it and keeps trying to crawl back into peoples lives (but never apologizing).
That is what is waiting for you if you hit your kids - they will lose respect for you as a human being.
16:54 answer to Garnt’s question is it depends what happens to Johnny Somali, if he actually gets a hard punish then it’ll deter future people from doing these acts but if he’s let go, Japan will look like a playground for these “influencers”
Yea it's really important that they do prosecute him this time although most crimes committed by foreigners in Japan were hardly charged as a crime. Bad news is only their arrests make news but most of them get released right away and media don't even cover nor the police don't even disclose the reason why they weren't prosecuted. Even some Kurds stabbing each other (between two big families) and 100 Kurds flocked together at hospital at night and riot police were dispatched, seven guys were arrested, yet none of them were prosecuted and let out free. But this time it got so much attention by general public and important for the future consequences, so they will try to prosecute or probably make another arrest
Except that punishment has basically no effect on deterrence.
My incredibly smart mom who was a (I forget what type but it was a specific type) chemistry major. She was incredibly smart. She only told me after I graduated high school that in middle school she got horrible grades. WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL ME THAT WHILE I WAS STRUGGLING BACK IN MIDDLE SCHOOL! I assumed she was a complete straight A student back then. I love her though. Just wish I knew that back then so I didn’t feel like such a failure. I’ve never mentioned that to her but honest even back then I don’t know how she would have brought it up to me. Also she worked hard to get into college. Doing a lot of jobs. It was a different time though so college was so much cheaper back then. Through that work all of my aunts and uncles went to college.
49:10 speaking of that I looked exactly like my mom as a kid. I had a photo of my mom as a kid on a beach (probably like elementary age) and I actually thought it was a photo of me. We have the same hair texture and color. Like I’m not joking I thought this photo was of me. I like randomly found it somewhere… probably fell from a old photo album.
The other side of it is we have a pastel portrait of my grandma on my dad’s side and she looked EXACTLY like my twin when she was younger. Like I assumed that was a portrait of her. Her hair didn’t stay blonde just like my brother and dad but still!
As a parent, I respect Garnt a lot more now. He says a lot of good things that resonate with me and my husband’s parenting approach. I was physically disciplined as a child and it’s followed me in a negative way as an adult. My husband on the other hand was only popped once on the butt as a child and even though it was that one time, he remembered it. Don’t get me wrong, there needs to be a clear boundary between a parent and a child and a level of respect on both sides. But touching your child that way should not be a means to discipline. The lack of patience is what drives someone to not think it through and choose the easiest path of violence.
I was literally thinking of this topic definitely needed
Nah, I was beat as a kid and it messed me up big time. Sure I don’t do anything bad but I barely do anything at all for fear of being in trouble. Anxiety was through the roof for years until therapy. I refused to make my kid feel like that.
My understanding is that the streamer who went to Fukushima (Joeykaotyk) wasn't trespassing on purpose, his guide fucked up. And he was released without any charges brought against him.
I love how once in a while we get to see the most genuine side of fhem and it makes me happy that i realt to some stuff too.
I really enjoyed the IRL canvas, it was also really fun to meet you Connor!
"These CZcamsrs are destroying Japan"
*Put Joey and Connor on the thumbnail
It's funny out of context lol
They should make a Trash Taste Special: Parents with them sitting with their parents. That would be such a wholesome episode.
It would be crazy to see Joey's Dad as a guest
As someone who had to pass by Shibuya to meet some friends, it didn't seem like nothing happened really. They just had people keep moving, so you could go and stuff but you couldn't just stay in one place for too long. That's all I noticed at least.
I laughed so much when they mentioned the level of detail and research that coffee enthusiasts go into because I have thought the same thing lmao
As somebody who has pretty imperfect parents I can't really relate to a lot of this talk lol
Neither does Garnt lol
Let's go another episode with the boys
When Conor said his dads from the generation that can fix anything, and it makes me feel like where did you invest in these skill trees. Mad relatable. 52:20
The interest has grown because of the growth of the anime industry overseas and also the amount of unique delicious dishes promoted from Tiktokers, Instagramers and off course CZcamsrs.
24:55 not the correction card sliding up lmaooo 💀