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- Episode 148 - Sometimes it sucks to be a gamer in North America as even Europe will get some games from Japan that we don't. Let's take a look at some of them here.
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A not in europe episode would have to be about 12hours long...
+LiveToby Especially if they go into the Dreamcast, Ps2 & Gamecube era
+LiveToby Indeed.
That's why they have multiple episodes on each subject. ;-P
+Adam Phillip
I don't think Europe has missed that much since the PS2-era, though? Maybe some niche JRPGs on PS2 that came out in NA, but not in EU. I'd actually argue that the PAL Dreamcast library is better than the NA's! Shenmue II, Headhunter, Rez...
Honestly, as far as Sega is concerned, I think Mega CD owners had it worst off in Europe. We got jack squat compared to the US.
Not that the CD had that extensive a library to begin with, but still...
I still can't believe Metal Wolf Chaos never came out in the US. It's got full English Voice Acting and is a game where you play as the President of the United States in a Mech Suit shooting doods!
"Mr President, believe in your own justice"
I love me some FROM SOFTWARE games! Crazy how expensive the game is, though :/
+Matthew J. Boone What is with From Software and mechs?
+howdareyou66 The game was a mockery of America, sir. That's why, lol.
@Lady Wanderer americs the best country ever
A list of Super Nintendo games not released in Europe would be pretty depressing to listen to. Final Fantasy II & III, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, E.V.O... the best RPG's never made it to Europe.
Yep, was going to point this out but you beat me to it. I love the SNES but it's crazy how few RPGs made it over here. Thank God for the virtual console.
Probably because they'd have to translate them into at least three different languages, not counting English. Doesn't make it any less sad, though.
+seanmyster6
Yes. I think that's the main reason. I grew up in the Netherlands, where games were mostly published in English (even some games targeted to younger children, like Pokémon Red/Blue). But most other countries were used to play fully translated games.
+Turrican4D Actually the Wii's Virtual Console isn't bad at all, I'm planning on getting FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG and Secret of Mana (never got it back in the day) off there before they shut if down, as well as Earthbound on the Wii U VC.
@@steefwildenbeest1987 It's not just the languages, home console games would also have to be converted to PAL. Demand for these would probably have been even lower than in the US, so it'd probably be pretty hard to justify the investment needed to localise a lot of these games.
Miyamoto with a "Genesis does" shirt! That made my day!!
Terranigma is still easily one of my top 5 favorite games and one that totally defined my childhood.
25:12 Quote: "Europe is dumb..."
Now we await the flaming responses.
Quoted out of context like that it sounds awful!
+Game Sack everyone knows it was a joke surely?
+John Hughes Even if it wasn't a joke, who is passionate about Europe?
Erm Europeans?
+John Hughes They are passionate about the specific country and not Europe. (I'm European too btw)
JUST WOKE UP!!!!
THANK YOU FOR SAVING MY SUNDAY MORNING FOR CLOSELY A YEAR NOW!!!!!
you guys are ust awesome, nothing says sunday morning like coffe and game sack ^^
+SKYRANDER the Swedish poketuber Thanks!
'These dolls were designed on the likeness of Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen'. Brilliant!
As a German, I would love to see a "Not in Europe!" episode. :)
+Highretrogamelord Basically every JRPG before the PS1 era, and then just half of them until the PS3 era.
+Reginmund So true. Especially Atlus games.
+Ryyyyyy You're right. Computer gaming was more popular than console games.
Well, I grew up with playing DOS games and Win 95/98 games...so yeah...
+Highretrogamelord But at least we Europeans had many legendary games for Commodore 64 that many Americans have never heard of. :)
+Pehmokettu ZX Spectrum was more popular, and Amiga was more popular at least in late 80s than C64
Best channel on CZcams
+J Russ Really liking FinalBosses as well, please do another Halloween episode!
Haha, that narration of Zero Wing was awesome! That should be in the game.
I'm always happy every weekend to see a Game Sack episode in my subscription feed. Love the format, commentary, and exposure to things I missed out on.
I luv waking up to a juicy Game Sack all over my eyeballs!
I’m sorry to disappoint you guys, but the “cinder block” edition of the super Nintendo was not exclusive to the United States. Down here in Brazil we also got the same awesome model. And the best part is, if you stack a bunch of those together, you can build a wall. Take that Europeans.
+lexas1911 I think Korea also got the cinder block edition.
+NamKakkua korea got the SFC design
+lexas1911 Here in Philippines got both editions :)
+lexas1911 That box desing was also used in Canada.
+NamKakkua nah my dude! the Koreans got that awesome ass Super Famicom design but they called theirs Super Nintendo (just like the European version) but the games run in NTSC just like the Japanese and American's systems.
but the legitimate giving name they gave it is really called Hyundai Super Comboy
That Zero Wing intro parody was amazing! :D
always happy to see a new episode of game sack on my feed:) keep up the great work guys!
Damn, anyone that complains about your "wooden delivery" needs to take a look at your brilliant reading of Zero Wing's intro.
If you guys do another "Not in North America" episode sometime, you should totally include Vib-Ribbon -- a rhythm game from Nana-on-Sha (the same guys who did PaRappa the Rapper) that came out in Japan and Europe on the PS1, but never saw the light of day in North America. It's a weird, weird game that uses black-and-white vector graphics and allows you to put in and play stages set to songs from your own music CDs -- and it does a shockingly nice job of generating stages for most songs I've tried with it, too! And the built-in soundtrack is... strange, to say the least. But really enjoyable.
Actually it finally got a U.S. Release. It was re-released on the PSN.
+HamtaroSonicHedgehog
does the psn version still have the feature to use your own CDs? I've been debating on buying it.
+jrzag yes it does
Stavekoff Dats Coolio.
totally agree, vib ribbon is a great game.
+Game Sack
Man I look forward to new episodes from you guys, much more than anything on TV, Netflix or Hulu.
Ikr. I got a subscription to Netflix and yet I keep coming back to CZcams to watch either Avgn or Gamesack.
LOVE this show. How you guys keep finding games is beyond me
All your memes are, after all, belong to Zero Wing.
I enjoy looking forward to watching these saturday nights! Keep it up guys!
+Zach Beiser its Sunday Night for me great way too start the week :)
+JayDee284 Sunday morning for me. It's literally the first CZcams video for me every Sunday.
Just what I needed tonight after getting off work. A new episode of Game Sack. Thanks guys.
I have been using game sack as late night watching fuel and something to listen to as I go to sleep. This show has become my favourite CZcams show as for retro gaming. You guys rock. And A+ for Joe's sweet Saturn shirt.
Was expecting deep fear for Sega Saturn on here. It was released in Japan and Europe only
I really love and appreciate what you guys do! Unique and massively entertaining. Truly something special.
I know it isn't your style, but do se modern reviews too! even if it's overly critical, I'd love to hear what you have to say.
thank you joe & dave for FINALLY talking about terranigma. i was waiting forever for you to talk about it!
Oh my god that voice over section was the fuckin bomb, im actually crying
I would love to see you guys play some of the classic DOS adventures...You should be able to play them with relative ease on Mac with DOSBox (that's what I do on Linux), and seeing your take on Alien Carnage, Commander Keen, System Shock, and the abundance of DOOM clones would be interesting.
For that matter, an episode based on DOOM clones wouldn't be too horrible either.
Terranigma is a masterpiece. Glad you guys covered it!
When he said troll dolls were designed to look like mary kate and ashley olson .... I lost it hahahahahhahahaahha
omg the voice over part of this video was incredible! thanks for the entertainment guys.
Will always support you guys
I preferred the Japanese/European design of the SNES. The model released in the Americas looks too blocky.
Each to their own, I suppose! ☺
Everyone does, most of all Joe and Dave 😉 That last segment is pure sarcasm.
Thank you both for another fun filled episode.
Thanks again for a great episode. You guys make my Sunday.
You should make a Not In Japan episode so you can cover games like Startropics and Secret of Evermore.
I know this is a late reply, but...
They already made a Not in Japan episode. Yes, they put Secret of Evermore, but no, they didn't put StarTropics.
This is something which I have wondering if you guys would do and looks like you finally did. I don't know why, but after watching this I want you guys to cover rip-off games. You know. games that pretty much imitate or take too much inspiration from other more popular games.
+Jeanmartin Freites That's a good idea. Any examples you'd like to see?
I do actually, here are my suggestions:
Holy Diver: a famicom game that is bound to give Castlevania vibes
Dante's inferno: A God of War clone
The Krion Conquest: A NES game that rips off Mgaman.
Sonic had quite a few clones back in the day
Also The Crusader of Senti, a game you guys have talked about that is basically a Zelda clone.
Those are all the ones I can think of at the moment.
Jeanmartin Freites
Excellent, thanks. We'll try to get to it as soon as we can but we have a lot on the table before then. Thanks for the suggestions!
Game Sack Good to be of help :)
If you actually do the episode please don't forget Run Saber on the SNES :D everybody says it's a strider rip-off, but I think it's even better.
'as much crack as possible' possibly the funniest moment of Game Sack and one of the greatest premises for a video game ever devised at the same time.
This was a super useful Game Sack episode for finding some new stuff to play. An episode focused on crazy boss battles would rock. See you guys at Portland!
Games that did not came to Europe: Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Final Fantasy 6... T_T
+Redempy And many more essentials from the 90's on multiple systems.
+Redempy It seems Europe heavily missed out mostly on the RPG's.
Maybe they thought Europe wasn't that into RPG's?
+Redempy Europe never got those? Got damn...I'm really sorry man.
+dynamo beard It took until the late 90's for an FF6 to see UK shores on the PS1 as part of the anniversary collection, 2008 for Chrono trigger to hit here on the DS (though many people apparently imported the US PS1 version) and it took earthbound allllll the way until 2013 where we got it as a virtual console release.
+Redempy ... Yes all of these... Mario RPG wasn't released either. What annoys me is when people get uppity when I say Final Fantasy 7 was my first RPG... Dude! We didn't get anything else!
Glad you all covered Terranigma. It's a great RPG with an interesting, twisty story and a fun action battle system. It's a bit plodding and obtuse at times and there's a good number of 'Guide damn it' moments, but I still love it to death. It's easily in my top ten favorite RPGs for the SNES.
At "Well sue me and I'll counter sue and we'll sue back and forth forever" I absolutely lost it, brilliant.
The hammering harry for the NES, is one of those games that you need to talk about.
Wow, you didn't have Kuru Kuru Kururin? It was pretty famous here in Europe as far as i remember...
Yep it was one of the launch titles for Gameboy Advance
Game Sack is my replacement for church on Sunday mornings.
Nice!
Kurukuru Kururin was a game I bought randomly when I went on a EU vacation. The GBA had just come out, I was in Paris, in the mall under the Louvre, and I saw this game in the top 10 sales at the "Virigin" megastore that was there. I picked it up and was so happy and surprised that I could NOT believe that it never came over to America. I still miss that game and want to pick it up again!
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glad I have legit copy of terranigma , but I was under the impression it was region locked for pal regions. I had to get the stupid datel pro action replay for pal games when I got my copy like 10+ years ago. Still one of my fav games of all time I love it and illusion of gaia to this day.
The info I looked up online said otherwise, but I admit I could be wrong. I didn't use any special ROM on my SNES that I know of.
+Game Sack heh not a big deal , I think the game is more accessible now with repro carts than the original release heh.
Maxim Index
Probably. I just hope the repro makers keep the prices reasonable.
+Maxim Index : Repro cards basically remove the region check so it works on a USA SNES. You would need to use a cheat device to disable the region check on an original cartridge.
+RadioTails Yeah I have the datel programmable univesal adapter it has to piggyback off a ntsc cart to check for region in the back of the cart and you put your pal terranigma on top. I guess these were made cause europeans never got as many cool snes rpgs in their region the datel works on both pal and ntsc vice versa. Its useful if I want to play any other pal exclusives with region lockout.
awesome a new gamesack you guys are awsome i learn alot and always have to find new games
ha ha ha lmfao OMG those voice overs you did during the Zero Wing intro ha ha, spit out my coffee all over the place. Great job guys, really enjoyed the vid as always
people keep hating on how the U.S super nintendo looks like but im glad we got it because that means we got end labels, and no one else did so i feel like that should shut tye argument up right there
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That is actually a good counter-argument. Not really for the console itself but for the carts.
+Game Sack yeah, strange in how all my the years I've never heard that point come up not even once
I envy your end labels but I really love the design of our European snes. The north american one isn't bad but it looks really boxy and bulky
+Game Sack
I didn't get Fatal frame IV to be released in Europe, even if put end labels to the FF III case :(
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3 actually. I'm a speed reader!
+Game Sack ... a speader... JUDGES!!!!!! (we're going to allow it.)
Game Sack Well played Game Sack well played.
+OfficialNinjaSkillz And this is a wasted reply.
+OfficialNinjaSkillz .02 speed reader MLG
Lol I love the sarcasm at the end of every episode and this one is funny
This episode was really interesting. Thanks guys.
I grabbed a repro cart of Terranigma a few years ago. Glad I did. What a great experience, and the music is fantastic, especially the ending theme.
Kururin has three speeds - hold A + B + direction to go faster. Don't imagine that really helps, but there it is!
Thanks guys! You make my sundays better !!! :)
You guys are going ham on these vids! Keep em comin!
+Blast Mode Processing FX 7 I love ham!!
The dialogue of the excellently translated game was the absolute high point of the video. I wish there was more of it.
...I wish there was a movie.
Terranigna definitely deserves more credit for its soundtrack than its getting here. One of my all time favourites. Glad I owned it from back in the day as I wouldn't want to buy at current prices .
The European version of Twinbee Rainbow Bell Adventures uses password instead of battery save unfortunately, and the password system doesn't keep track of certain data that DO get kept with the built in save of the Japanese version. The best of both worlds is playing the fan translation of the Japanese version :P.
Terranigma was released over here in late 1996 (even early 1997 in French speaking territories where we had to wait a couple more weeks), so I believe the localisation work (by Nintendo themselves if memory serves right) was badly rushed since the N64 was either already out or very close to be.
Anyway, other games released over here but not in North America that I would recommend are the Pop n' Twinbee and Parodius Non-Sense Fantasy, both for the SNES. Good cute 'em ups :).
love the Miyamoto (however you spell it) in a genesis shirt picture, and the Olsen twins likeness used for the troll inspiration jokes. Made my day!
SUPER FANTASY ZONE !!!!
- And Wonderboy in Monster Lair, Twin Hawk. And Dragon Ball Z was released in France while Yu Yu Hakusho was released in Brazil (and Portugal IIRC).
Looks like you had a lot of fun with this episode as there are a lot of good games here.
Good selection of games too, I knew of the Famicom Hammerin Harry but I had no idea there was a Game Boy sequel.
Sweet feeling of getting a notification for a new Game Sack episode
7:53 This video came out in 2015, and kurukuru kururin recently came to North America on the Nintendo Switch Online service more than 7 years later, in 2023. Dave you did it.
That voice over for Zero Wing was the best voice acting I've heard in a video game. Way better than the excellent theatrics from the original Resident Evil.
You guys (Joe and Dave) should do Dr. Chaos for the next Halloween video. Be sure to include the black kitteh in the intro. It sets the mood.
I'd like to see a "Not in Europe!" episode sometime in the future.Like you said, many games never came to Europe and i bet you can make more than one episode judging from the number of games that missed our shores.
I'm not savvy to all the games that came out here in the USA that didn't come out any where else. I think that an episode based around that would be pretty awesome to see. keep up the great work guys
A nice coincidance that you mention Over Horizon. I am in Germany, I plugged that PAL OVER HORIZON into my NTSC System. Oh my, it just ran too fast. When I searched eBay for the ntsc Cart I realized it was one that didn't come out in the US. You should be playing Super Turrican. A nice NES Port programmed by one MAN! Manfred Trenz himself. Incredible precise programming on the NES.
I have been searching for Doki Doki Yuenchi forever, couldn't remember the name of the game since I saw it in arcades here when I was very young. Thanks GameSack!
Truly some of the greatest voice acting I've ever heard.
Fascinating episode. Some of these games look really good, it's a shame they never made it stateside. These episodes are always great, cause there's always games I've never heard of. Keep up the awesome work Game Sack! \,,/
when i saw that twinbee plataform game i wonder how much happier my childhood had been if i had that game instead of bubsy 2
Blasting off actually really does a lot in that Twinbee game. You have to fly to the bounds of space as well as right in the corners.
By doing that you can get every powerup available and be able to play the rest of the level full powered.
I love you guys. you even put X2 music. the best part of the game!!!!
Omg, All your base... classic... lol. Wasn't expecting that in this video. Amazing.
Loving that Sega Saturn shirt! I've always enjoyed knowing about what games didn't come out in different places around the world, I know that in the UK we got all sorts of random guff, I was born in the early 90's so sadly the Playstation and N64 were just coming out as I was learning the concept of lifting my own head up so I never got the chance to play a lot of older games, but I did play a lot of NES and Gameboy! There we some weird things on there that nobody ever seems to know! My Grandmother had a case full of random games that seemed to be from all over the world.
The ending skits are awesome, guys!
Loved the voice over Joe. Almost thought it was part of the game at first. Loved the humor in this episode. 😃👍
That ending skit...Simply glorious!
Excellent episode, thank you!
loving the weekly sack!
nothing like a good ol' game sack video to end the night
What I like about Over Horizon is the amount of customization. You can set the possition of your options yourself. I always liked that feature and wish other shooters had it.
Hey guys, have either of you come across a PS2 game called 'The Red Star'?
It combines arcade beat 'em up and shooter gameplay with bullet hell style boss battles. It was delayed for years (I've heard) and eventually snuck out without fanfare at a budget price.
It's lack of cutscenes and old-school gameplay focus made it pretty unpopular at the time (early 2000's), but it's just so fun and super addictive!
Anyway, love the show guys.
+bar barian I've heard of it but have never played it. I hope to find it some day.
Panzer Bandit is a really fun side-scrolling beat-'em-up that came out on PlayStation, but only in Japan. I had to play it at my friends house in High School because he was the only one with a modified system. I don't think you have ever talked about this one, but I highly recommend it.
thank you game sack your video are amazing keep up , i sub
game sack: my favourite sack! .. aside from my own sack.
Super Mario RPG was sorely missed over here. Imported a cartridge and modified it by lifting a pin on the SA1 chip so it could play on a PAL console. It felt awful having to "destroy" it like that, but you do what you have to do!
+Samuel Johansson How-to: www.mmmonkey.co.uk/super-mario-rpg-on-a-pal-snes/
Oh my gosh, that Over Horizon game looks so impressive for NES! Look at it, it has such cool-looking and animated BGs! And the gameplay is similar to Side Arms on the Turbografx 16 and that I approve!
Next time you guys do a Not in North America episode, make sure to include Pop'n Twinbee for the Super Nintendo!
Forbidden Siren 2 on the PS2 gets my vote. The first game was just called Siren in the US. It's a really cool stealth survival horror game with some really creative mechanics and storytelling. Really scary too.
Great episode guys. I played Terranigma when years ago but it was a Spanish translation. One of the Best SNES games out there in my opinion.
Love eps like these. It fascinates me to see the quality games we missed out on way back when. It still happens to sadly enough. The wii has a game called captain rainbow that supposedly is nintendo making fun of its self. Treasure of the Rudras is an excellent japan only game that needs more love
The last one, the SNES RPG looked like the best game you guys covered.
Aw man, I remember the first time I played Zero Wing back in high school after the translated rom made it online. So classic. I recently got a repro of Terranigma and am really anticipating playing it. Soon. Very soon.
One interesting topic would be "weird" release regions. Like Gimmick, that was only brought to the Scandinavian regions, or Banana Prince, only in Germany or the Dragonball games for France or the Shin Shan games in Spain. I find stuff like that interesting.
I'd still advocate another Left in Europa episode. Especially one that also covers arcade games like Radical Bikers or Biomechanical Toy. The PS1 is also a very good place to look for games. Terracon and Little Big Adventure are terrific.
Glad you showed and enjoyed Ghoust Buidling Company. One of my favorite GB titles. Wish the other games on GB/C had made it here. At least everybody got the PSP game.