I think that was the right call. First time the runner touched the plate was after he stepped over the plate with his left leg and then he reached back and touched the plate for the first time. You can see that at 0:51. The first time the catcher made the tag was when he swiped trying to tag and it hit the runners right shoe. You can see that at 1:31 and in the same spot you can see when the runner reaches back to make the first contact with the plate.
your absolutely correct, the umpire made a very detailed correct close call. All these people are looking at the final followup tag, that is not the swipe tage that reaches him before either foot touches the bag.
I have to say, even if John Tumpane blew that call, I respect him saying what he thought he saw. Lots of times you see umpires have the attitude like "He's out because I said so. Now go sit down". John Tumpane is a decent umpire with a good ratio of correct calls, somewhere in the high 80%, which is like in the top 10 for umpires.
I have to commend Maddon for getting out there as quickly as he did. He took the heat so Ruggiano could stay in the game. I’m a life-long #Cubs fan, and have only been familiar with Maddon for a year or two, but one of the things I love most about Maddon is that he REALLY sticks up for his players. I think he’s also a fair manager, in the sense that I remember him saying something earlier THIS season (2016) about how the Cubs would never start something, but once the other team starts something, the Cubs’ll definitely fight back and finish it. I think he also trusts his guys a lot more than some managers do when the crap hits the fan like it did here. Ruggiano knew he was safe, and Maddon trusted his player’s judgment enough to go out on the field and justifiably take the proverbial bullet for him.
The umpire "knows baseball." He just got the call wrong. Either he thought the first swipe got the runner or the runner's attempt to touch the plate failed. On a bang-bang play like this, once in a while the ump will get it wrong... he's human.
I cannot say definitively whether he was safe or out, and I don't know what the umpire saw....what I can say is everyone is putting focus on that left foot, and not enough on the right foot which was stuck on the catchers foot....There is no clear shot of whether the glove hit that right foot or not, but im willing to bet that that is what the umpire what looking at, and that he saw a tag on that foot.....clearly, if you just look at the left foot at the end he's safe, but I believe there was a tag on the right one, and the left foot tag was a second tag.
I like Maddon. He's a great manager. It's just funny watching him arguing and getting ejected because he always runs out of the dugout with his arms out like, "Whaaaaaaat?"
After watching the replay from all the different angles presented in the video, the big question is : Look at the replay on 1:43 - Was the swipe tag made on the runner's right foot, or not? On the other hand, on 1:09, it looks like the catcher's glove hits the dirt and misses.
You're right in that Ruggiano initially slid around the plate. Avila missed the swipe tag. However, Ruggiano reached back with his foot to touch the plate (you can see that the dirt has been wiped off of the plate where he touched it) before the tag was applied to his foot.
He completely missed him on the sweep tag. All you need to look at is the reaction of the catcher. If the catcher thought he got him, he wouldn't have gone back to tag him a "second" time.
Looked like he may have tagged his right heel with the swipe tag. Maybe not, but that's what the umpire was telling the runner. Two things are for sure...the umpire waited to see if the ball was retained by the catcher before he signaled, and he had the best view of the play. Even the replay is not 100% conclusive and people here are on both sides of the fence.
Just a comment about the commentators: An umpire takes his time to make calls because of the 100 things that can happen after a tag. lets say he tagged him and the umpire signals out right away and the ball comes rolling out. There is no rush to make an out call, he is out regardless of when you signal. I'm, not saying it was the right call in this case, but a delayed signal does not mean the umpire is automatically wrong.
+Jake Jones In my opinion, Maddon is ALWAYS mild-mannered until someone (usually an ump) does or says something stupid to him. Maddon seems to have a LOT of respect for the umps and other teams until the umps or other teams take a dump on him.
The runners right foot is blocked by the catcher and the left foot doesn't touch till after the catcher swipes the right foot. The video is too grainy and fast to definitively say he missed tagging the right foot, here on CZcams.
Safe by a mile. He slid over the base then he put it foot back on that doesn't mean he missed it intierly it just means the ump wasn't paying attention to the first part.
I think he might have been OUT. The catcher made two attempts at tagging the runner. The first attempt was on the runner's RIGHT foot, as the runner missed the plate. The second attempt was on the runner's LEFT foot, after he had already touched the plate. Appeared as if the first attempt was a success, therefore he is OUT!! However, it's not clear and conclusive, so the call on the field stands. :/
I think that may have been the right call the front leg is the distraction. It is the heal of the back foot that got swipe tagged before the plate is touched, the front leg misses the bag, yet the catchers foot blocks the back foot of the runner. The umpire confuses you by paying attention to the 3rd followup tag. watch very closely..
First swipe missed and then the runner misses the plate then the runner moves foot tags plate and THEN catcher tags runner but not till after he is safe.
Touching the catcher's leg does not constitute a tag. Under Rule 2.00 (bottom of page 21 in the MLB Rules PDF), a tag is the act of touching a base with his body while having possession and control of the ball (only on a force play), or touching the runner with the ball, or touching the runner with the hand or glove that has the ball. The catcher's first tag was to the runner's foot, while it was already in contact with home plate. Safe.
I looked closely. The foot the runner was leading with hadn't even touched the plate. It went around it and his other foot wasn't touching the plate as well.
Why no obstruction? It's the catchers leg being in the way that stops him getting clean over the base on the first attempt. He clearly impedes the runner.
Ump got the call right but not by what he was signaling as the reason. The catcher got the runner's right foot on the initial swipe tag while the left foot was above the plate. Sheer luck.
The slide was completely off centered, but the swipe tag missed the runner by at least an inch. The mitt never touched him. Then the runner tagged the plate with his back foot and the actual tag was applied while the runner was safe.
He clearly reached back with his foot and had his foot touching the plate prior to the tag. watch at 0:52 ....the foot is on the plate and the glove comes in after on top of the foot
After the baseman catches the ball, that must be a strikeout. After the strikeout and if the runner continues to run to the home plate, that should be safe when he slides off to the home plate. If the pitcher comes with his glove and does not receive the ball yet, that should be a limitation of length open play penalty. If the pitcher was at home plate and had the ball from a different pitcher with the catcher, that should be ejected. That makes the runner is safe. I think the call is wrong.
what the ump saw was that the catcher blocked the initial slide, but didn't see that he missed the tag. if he tagged him before he brought his other foot around to the plate, he would've been out. play & pause watch it frame by frame
Initially the runner did not touch the plate, and the catcher did not tag the runner; that's why the umpire made no call. The runner should have kept this foot on the plate until there was a call made by the umpire. In the end, the umpire got this one wrong, the runner was clearly safe. That umpire was very young, looked to be about 25...really young for an MLB umpire.
1:43 Original swipe tag from catcher misses BUT so does the original slide because of the catcher's foot blocking. However, still with no tag applied the runner's foot comes back and tags clearly at 1:45 with the catcher's glove close (about five inches away) but clearly not touching him until after the runner's foot has safely touched home plate. The runner is safe. As fast as this play happened though I can't say it was a bad call, the ump called what he saw. There are people still arguing safe or out in the comments although the call should be clear now being able to pause the video and see it clearly. Try making a correct call in a tenth of a second real time without youtube, give the umps credit for being surprisingly very accurate.
I'm sure that baseball gets the calls right more now with replay, but can't help but miss the old days of the argument and manager getting thrown out. Grew up watching baseball like that. Oh well, still, once in a while they still get nose to nose.
...and I pretty huch have to repeat my question. Why is it that you have to tag someone with your glove when there are times a catcher will cover home plate, get run into by the runner, but the runner is out if the catcher holds on to the ball (without tagging him with it). I guess this is why I'm only interested in baseball when hockey ends and before football begins.
This is why we should have replay reviews for all calls. Umpires are human and they only have two sets of eyeballs so they can only see the play from one angle and cannot review it by themselves.
Wow.. at first I thought the ump blew it completely. Then, with the better camera angles, you see clearly that the runner slid into the catcher's foot and didn't touch the plate on the way through. And THEN you realize that the catcher missed his first tag! The runner got back to the plate before the catcher found him. Blown call, but a damn tough one. Just think, we got multiple replays and can rewind. The plate ump has to make this call in a split second, on one look. Cut him some slack.
Catchers left leg blocked runners right leg from reaching home plate. Runner was aware, so the runner threw his left leg onto home plate. By that time the runners right leg MAY OR MAY NOT had already been tagged. Dirt was an obstacle. Its tricky. Were all winners...deep inside.
swipe tag got his right foot you can see the glove wobble from the hit. and then he touches the base and then the catcher touches him again. good call.
+mouseno4 It may not have been able to be “applied” in this particular play, but I’m glad that MLB is finally coming to their senses and is using IR now to settle some of these obviously blown calls.
not true. As an umpire you pause, you read, you react. This method prevents you from making a call too soon. So if there is a dropped ball you are not calling out when the ball is on the ground.
I don't really know how to respond to this...I pretty much have to repeat myself...He went into the catchers legs but by the time he tagged him with the ball, his foot was already in...He needs to tag him to get the out, not just make contact with the person...Must tag him with the ball that is either in his glove, or his hand..thats all there is to it
can you really blame him? with his angle, that swipe tag looks good.thats why we need the reviews today. so we can have multiple angles that umpires can look at if they don't know
*****, well, usually the only way we have to judge is whether someone looks safe. The umps primarily use their eyes. So, if someone looks safe, they usually are for all intents and purposes.
***** no, that analogy is flawed. Saying someone is out because the ball beat them is changing the rules of the game of baseball. You seem to be comfortable living in this nice theoretical plane of existence where you don't have to measure anything. But in the real world you know whether he was safe our out primarily through using your eyes. Instant replay is used to make it even easier to use your eyes - hence the reason umps are now using it.
If Joe Maddon is losing, he can argue. He was safe. John Tumpane should be fired. Let him have it, Joe. He blew the call. Delfin Colon knows that if you miss a call as a minor league umpire, you will probably get thrown out. John Tumpane needs to get glasses. I am sure Gerry Davis would not miss a call because he is a veteran umpire.
Horrible call. Ump may have thought he got tagged with the swipe tag. The catcher did a good job blocking the plate if he actually tagged him with his first attempt he may have been out.
First the people that think he is out! Bull crap look at it at the second angle! Yes he did miss the plate on the slide but the catcher missed him on the tag! And if you think he got him on the tag them why did he try to tag him on the second try and the runners foot was on the plate before the second tag! So yea safe!
stop the vid at 1:09 and tell me if you see the tag, thats what its all about...but if the ump only calls the second tag, then he really blown it up badly (umpire fan here)
I don't know why, all I know is that that's the rule...I cant give you a reason for it, its just in the rulebook, I guess that's my answer to you...In baseball, you gata tag with the ball, whether hes covering home plate or not it means nothing if you don't tag him
The bad call is one thing but the official like to be in the spotlight, thats why he is waiting so long. This is the big problem for me. Thats why I love the NFL more. In the NFL the officials understand their role in the game - in the MLB not! MLB you have a big problem
The only reason you would wait to make the call is if either the catcher has not tagged the runner or the runner has not tagged home. By hesitating on making the call, the umpire was saying neither of those two happened yet.
I sometimes hate announcers the umpire has to do so many things I would want them to try to be an umpire, they were like " they should be yelling at the umpire" like wat the hell
Okay, you obviously do not know the rules very well...You need to tag the runner with the BALL, when the catcher is holding the ball and the runner makes contact with his foot, he still needs to tag him in order to get the out, you don't get an out by making contact with any body part when holding the ball, you need to tag him..He was safe
Why would the runner have the ball? What in the world are you talking about? Yeah, that's the only time I'm interested in baseball. I'm not being passionate about it. I'm just telling it like it is.
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched Home Plate & The Runner Was Already Safe. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched The Runner. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
The runner's left foot slide in and touched the home plate he was safe I don't know what the home plate umpire was looking at he should have asked for help.
I think that was the right call. First time the runner touched the plate was after he stepped over the plate with his left leg and then he reached back and touched the plate for the first time. You can see that at 0:51. The first time the catcher made the tag was when he swiped trying to tag and it hit the runners right shoe. You can see that at 1:31 and in the same spot you can see when the runner reaches back to make the first contact with the plate.
your absolutely correct, the umpire made a very detailed correct close call. All these people are looking at the final followup tag, that is not the swipe tage that reaches him before either foot touches the bag.
I have to say, even if John Tumpane blew that call, I respect him saying what he thought he saw. Lots of times you see umpires have the attitude like "He's out because I said so. Now go sit down". John Tumpane is a decent umpire with a good ratio of correct calls, somewhere in the high 80%, which is like in the top 10 for umpires.
How the hell did he miss that call? He was in a perfect position
I have to commend Maddon for getting out there as quickly as he did. He took the heat so Ruggiano could stay in the game. I’m a life-long #Cubs fan, and have only been familiar with Maddon for a year or two, but one of the things I love most about Maddon is that he REALLY sticks up for his players.
I think he’s also a fair manager, in the sense that I remember him saying something earlier THIS season (2016) about how the Cubs would never start something, but once the other team starts something, the Cubs’ll definitely fight back and finish it. I think he also trusts his guys a lot more than some managers do when the crap hits the fan like it did here. Ruggiano knew he was safe, and Maddon trusted his player’s judgment enough to go out on the field and justifiably take the proverbial bullet for him.
The umpire "knows baseball." He just got the call wrong. Either he thought the first swipe got the runner or the runner's attempt to touch the plate failed. On a bang-bang play like this, once in a while the ump will get it wrong... he's human.
I cannot say definitively whether he was safe or out, and I don't know what the umpire saw....what I can say is everyone is putting focus on that left foot, and not enough on the right foot which was stuck on the catchers foot....There is no clear shot of whether the glove hit that right foot or not, but im willing to bet that that is what the umpire what looking at, and that he saw a tag on that foot.....clearly, if you just look at the left foot at the end he's safe, but I believe there was a tag on the right one, and the left foot tag was a second tag.
I like Maddon. He's a great manager. It's just funny watching him arguing and getting ejected because he always runs out of the dugout with his arms out like, "Whaaaaaaat?"
After watching the replay from all the different angles presented in the video, the big question is : Look at the replay on 1:43 - Was the swipe tag made on the runner's right foot, or not? On the other hand, on 1:09, it looks like the catcher's glove hits the dirt and misses.
You're right in that Ruggiano initially slid around the plate. Avila missed the swipe tag. However, Ruggiano reached back with his foot to touch the plate (you can see that the dirt has been wiped off of the plate where he touched it) before the tag was applied to his foot.
That was a terrible call.
Strap on the gear Sam. If not shut up!!!!!
He completely missed him on the sweep tag. All you need to look at is the reaction of the catcher. If the catcher thought he got him, he wouldn't have gone back to tag him a "second" time.
Looked like he may have tagged his right heel with the swipe tag. Maybe not, but that's what the umpire was telling the runner. Two things are for sure...the umpire waited to see if the ball was retained by the catcher before he signaled, and he had the best view of the play. Even the replay is not 100% conclusive and people here are on both sides of the fence.
Just a comment about the commentators: An umpire takes his time to make calls because of the 100 things that can happen after a tag. lets say he tagged him and the umpire signals out right away and the ball comes rolling out. There is no rush to make an out call, he is out regardless of when you signal. I'm, not saying it was the right call in this case, but a delayed signal does not mean the umpire is automatically wrong.
Wow, what a horrible call. I'd say considering how bad that call was, Maddon was downright mild-mannered.
+Jake Jones In my opinion, Maddon is ALWAYS mild-mannered until someone (usually an ump) does or says something stupid to him. Maddon seems to have a LOT of respect for the umps and other teams until the umps or other teams take a dump on him.
The runners right foot is blocked by the catcher and the left foot doesn't touch till after the catcher swipes the right foot. The video is too grainy and fast to definitively say he missed tagging the right foot, here on CZcams.
"you're fucking wrong! You're fucking wrong! You're fucking wrong!"
Safe by a mile. He slid over the base then he put it foot back on that doesn't mean he missed it intierly it just means the ump wasn't paying attention to the first part.
Thank goodness Today we have instant replay.
I think he might have been OUT. The catcher made two attempts at tagging the runner. The first attempt was on the runner's RIGHT foot, as the runner missed the plate. The second attempt was on the runner's LEFT foot, after he had already touched the plate. Appeared as if the first attempt was a success, therefore he is OUT!! However, it's not clear and conclusive, so the call on the field stands. :/
I think that may have been the right call the front leg is the distraction. It is the heal of the back foot that got swipe tagged before the plate is touched, the front leg misses the bag, yet the catchers foot blocks the back foot of the runner. The umpire confuses you by paying attention to the 3rd followup tag. watch very closely..
Maddon:"Your fucking wrong!"
He is clearly out; the catchers foot blocked the runners foot and then he applied the tag. Runner never touched home until he was tagged out.
are you blind? yes the catcher foot block him at first but then his other foot drop and touch the home plate before the tag. Safe
Le tuan linh Never happened. He NEVER touched the plate whatsoever
Justin Ricci Eh, he touched home plate with his left foot, but only after his right foot (the foot stuck on the catcher) had been tagged.
Justin Ricci 1:07 there's a timestamp for ya
First swipe missed and then the runner misses the plate then the runner moves foot tags plate and THEN catcher tags runner but not till after he is safe.
His foot went under the glove and he slid on the base before he tagged him so he was SAFE!!
Touching the catcher's leg does not constitute a tag. Under Rule 2.00 (bottom of page 21 in the MLB Rules PDF), a tag is the act of touching a base with his body while having possession and control of the ball (only on a force play), or touching the runner with the ball, or touching the runner with the hand or glove that has the ball. The catcher's first tag was to the runner's foot, while it was already in contact with home plate. Safe.
man I sure do miss maddon
You mean the same exact tag you can see at 1:30 ish where he misses the tag?
thought so.
I looked closely. The foot the runner was leading with hadn't even touched the plate. It went around it and his other foot wasn't touching the plate as well.
His foot was DEFINITELY touching the plate at one point, no question about that. The only question is when the tag was first applied.
Why no obstruction? It's the catchers leg being in the way that stops him getting clean over the base on the first attempt. He clearly impedes the runner.
damninfieldfly A catcher in possession of the ball has freedom to be in the runners pathway.
Ump got the call right but not by what he was signaling as the reason. The catcher got the runner's right foot on the initial swipe tag while the left foot was above the plate. Sheer luck.
OUT!!! Clearly he tag him in the foot, you can see it in minute 1:43 before Ruggiano touched the plate. Goog call by the ump.
The slide was completely off centered, but the swipe tag missed the runner by at least an inch. The mitt never touched him. Then the runner tagged the plate with his back foot and the actual tag was applied while the runner was safe.
That ump really did blow that call. The runner touched plate before the tag.
If Maddon felt the call was wrong, why didn't he signal for video review? Can this not be reviewed? I thought safe/out can be reviewed.
He NEVER touched the plate. This was a good call.
He clearly reached back with his foot and had his foot touching the plate prior to the tag. watch at 0:52 ....the foot is on the plate and the glove comes in after on top of the foot
After the baseman catches the ball, that must be a strikeout. After the strikeout and if the runner continues to run to the home plate, that should be safe when he slides off to the home plate. If the pitcher comes with his glove and does not receive the ball yet, that should be a limitation of length open play penalty. If the pitcher was at home plate and had the ball from a different pitcher with the catcher, that should be ejected. That makes the runner is safe. I think the call is wrong.
what the ump saw was that the catcher blocked the initial slide, but didn't see that he missed the tag. if he tagged him before he brought his other foot around to the plate, he would've been out. play & pause watch it frame by frame
Initially the runner did not touch the plate, and the catcher did not tag the runner; that's why the umpire made no call. The runner should have kept this foot on the plate until there was a call made by the umpire. In the end, the umpire got this one wrong, the runner was clearly safe. That umpire was very young, looked to be about 25...really young for an MLB umpire.
I remember this game, it was the Tigers who won in 10 innings, 2-1.
He was out, pause at 0:52 you can se the catcher tag him before he touches home plate.
it is not catching the foot we are looking at it is the swipe tag on the back heal before either foot touches the bag. the slide was off centered.
1:43 Original swipe tag from catcher misses BUT so does the original slide because of the catcher's foot blocking. However, still with no tag applied the runner's foot comes back and tags clearly at 1:45 with the catcher's glove close (about five inches away) but clearly not touching him until after the runner's foot has safely touched home plate. The runner is safe.
As fast as this play happened though I can't say it was a bad call, the ump called what he saw. There are people still arguing safe or out in the comments although the call should be clear now being able to pause the video and see it clearly. Try making a correct call in a tenth of a second real time without youtube, give the umps credit for being surprisingly very accurate.
I'm sure that baseball gets the calls right more now with replay, but can't help but miss the old days of the argument and manager getting thrown out. Grew up watching baseball like that. Oh well, still, once in a while they still get nose to nose.
HE WAS OUT! LOOK AT RUNNER RIGHT LEG. THE RIGHT LEG!!! TUCKED UNDER HIS BODY, IT WAS TOUCHING THE CATCHER'S FOOT AFTER CATCHER CAUGHT BALL...OUT!!
This here is a clear reason for replays. They may have their own problems but this would have been overturned and the rays would have had a run.
...and I pretty huch have to repeat my question. Why is it that you have to tag someone with your glove when there are times a catcher will cover home plate, get run into by the runner, but the runner is out if the catcher holds on to the ball (without tagging him with it).
I guess this is why I'm only interested in baseball when hockey ends and before football begins.
This is why we should have replay reviews for all calls. Umpires are human and they only have two sets of eyeballs so they can only see the play from one angle and cannot review it by themselves.
Wow.. at first I thought the ump blew it completely. Then, with the better camera angles, you see clearly that the runner slid into the catcher's foot and didn't touch the plate on the way through. And THEN you realize that the catcher missed his first tag! The runner got back to the plate before the catcher found him. Blown call, but a damn tough one. Just think, we got multiple replays and can rewind. The plate ump has to make this call in a split second, on one look. Cut him some slack.
Catchers left leg blocked runners right leg from reaching home plate. Runner was aware, so the runner threw his left leg onto home plate. By that time the runners right leg MAY OR MAY NOT had already been tagged. Dirt was an obstacle.
Its tricky. Were all winners...deep inside.
it does look like he is tagged on his right foot as he is sliding.
swipe tag got his right foot you can see the glove wobble from the hit. and then he touches the base and then the catcher touches him again. good call.
That was terrible! He safe.
Its awesome to see these young umpires getting involved. Not backing down.
The home plate umpire looks so young
Avila's just like fuck yeah I had him.
Slow the video down to 0.25 and you can plainly see the umpire blew the call. BUT keep in mind, WE can slow it down, those umpires cant!
+mouseno4 It may not have been able to be “applied” in this particular play, but I’m glad that MLB is finally coming to their senses and is using IR now to settle some of these obviously blown calls.
He gets the foot on the initial swip tag. They even admit it later in this game when they look again. He was legit out.
Actually, the runner clearly had the ball. Replay shows it numerous time. People just try swaying with the "popular call" of him being safe.
not true. As an umpire you pause, you read, you react. This method prevents you from making a call too soon. So if there is a dropped ball you are not calling out when the ball is on the ground.
Good call
WHAT
Actually, the catcher had his foot in front of the plate, and the runner hit his foot when he had there ball. Therefore, he was out.
I don't really know how to respond to this...I pretty much have to repeat myself...He went into the catchers legs but by the time he tagged him with the ball, his foot was already in...He needs to tag him to get the out, not just make contact with the person...Must tag him with the ball that is either in his glove, or his hand..thats all there is to it
He's a young umpire, cut him some slack.
This isn't him out but the ump couldn't see the tag from that spot
And that's one of the reasons why blocking the plate is ban before you had the ball
can you really blame him? with his angle, that swipe tag looks good.thats why we need the reviews today. so we can have multiple angles that umpires can look at if they don't know
+matt Atherton, he looked clearly safe to me the first time I saw it and every time after that.
+Jake Jones clearly means nothing just cause something looks safe doesn't mean he is
*****, well, usually the only way we have to judge is whether someone looks safe. The umps primarily use their eyes. So, if someone looks safe, they usually are for all intents and purposes.
not really that be like assuming since the ball beat a runner he is out Jake that not true either
***** no, that analogy is flawed. Saying someone is out because the ball beat them is changing the rules of the game of baseball.
You seem to be comfortable living in this nice theoretical plane of existence where you don't have to measure anything. But in the real world you know whether he was safe our out primarily through using your eyes. Instant replay is used to make it even easier to use your eyes - hence the reason umps are now using it.
Joe Maddon is the Bill Billichick of Baseball managers.
If Joe Maddon is losing, he can argue. He was safe. John Tumpane should be fired. Let him have it, Joe. He blew the call. Delfin Colon knows that if you miss a call as a minor league umpire, you will probably get thrown out. John Tumpane needs to get glasses. I am sure Gerry Davis would not miss a call because he is a veteran umpire.
What a fucking idiotic comment. Because you think he missed a call, he should be fired. Who's going to umpire your games, moron?
I'm a huge tigers fan and tbh Ruggiano was safe, his right foot touched homeplate first
If the batter hits the ball to the basemen with a popover fly ball to the baseman, that should be a strikeout penalty or getting a strikeout. 0:09
I'm not clicking back, but I will take your word for it. "Mah bad", I meant to say the catcher had the ball.
I thought you were being crazy, LOL.
Horrible call. Ump may have thought he got tagged with the swipe tag. The catcher did a good job blocking the plate if he actually tagged him with his first attempt he may have been out.
Wow. Blew that one
The home plate umpire was(#74 John Tumpane)
First the people that think he is out! Bull crap look at it at the second angle! Yes he did miss the plate on the slide but the catcher missed him on the tag! And if you think he got him on the tag them why did he try to tag him on the second try and the runners foot was on the plate before the second tag! So yea safe!
stop the vid at 1:09 and tell me if you see the tag, thats what its all about...but if the ump only calls the second tag, then he really blown it up badly (umpire fan here)
pause at 1:11....you can clearly see his foot touching the plate BEFORE he was tagged....
I don't know why, all I know is that that's the rule...I cant give you a reason for it, its just in the rulebook, I guess that's my answer to you...In baseball, you gata tag with the ball, whether hes covering home plate or not it means nothing if you don't tag him
The bad call is one thing but the official like to be in the spotlight, thats why he is waiting so long. This is the big problem for me. Thats why I love the NFL more. In the NFL the officials understand their role in the game - in the MLB not!
MLB you have a big problem
he waited to make the call. oh no, he did his job right.
I would like to sue that ump because he was RESTING on the dish when he tagged him
Why we need replay!
He got his foot on before the tag. The catcher missed the swipe tag.
The only reason you would wait to make the call is if either the catcher has not tagged the runner or the runner has not tagged home. By hesitating on making the call, the umpire was saying neither of those two happened yet.
Lol, no way is he out
I agree that the ump was in a horrible position but the swipe tag missed him and then the runner touched the plate again the got tagged in the foot.
I sometimes hate announcers the umpire has to do so many things I would want them to try to be an umpire, they were like " they should be yelling at the umpire" like wat the hell
I'm making an ejections playlist
Wheres it at?
He is safe,but the umpire just messed up
The rays won the game right?
I think the catcher knew he missed the swipe tag, that is why he went after him again. If that is the case, runner was safe, IMHO.
Tag on the back of the right heel, I think. Close
Okay, you obviously do not know the rules very well...You need to tag the runner with the BALL, when the catcher is holding the ball and the runner makes contact with his foot, he still needs to tag him in order to get the out, you don't get an out by making contact with any body part when holding the ball, you need to tag him..He was safe
Why would the runner have the ball? What in the world are you talking about?
Yeah, that's the only time I'm interested in baseball. I'm not being passionate about it. I'm just telling it like it is.
Safe by a mile no questions asked hands down.
He missed the plate when he slid, then put his foot on it when the tag was made.
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched Home Plate & The Runner Was Already Safe. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
u gotta give him safe there, he clearly beat the ball to the plate, you gotta give him that.
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched The Runner. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
The runner's left foot slide in and touched the home plate he was safe I don't know what the home plate umpire was looking at he should have asked for help.
Looking at the replay, he was safe. I hate when umpires make ridiculous calls.
Become an umpire then. Show us how it's done.
Scott Holder “okay bud”