InMotion V13 Ride Review
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Man... your riding skills are just outrageous!
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Thanks dude! Would love to see you try one of those! :D
Lol you should check out chooch, he sends this thing offroad like it's a dirtbike at full send.
@@jaybomb5022 I'll check him out ✌😁
And do you ride your wheel like Mr. Wrong Way?
@Taba na rowerze I'm a bit aggressive on my V11, I love jumping off of things and going offroad. But I also appreciate leisure riding along the beach walk paths.
Riding seated on my way to work is by far my favorite activity.
@@jaybomb5022 Great to hear 💪
I just check the Chooch Tech and he was repeating the streets like a mad man 🤘😁
But in my opinion Adam ride style is more "in control". Like riding obstacles, sharp turns, riding backwards, climbing and stuff. I must check out more of the Chooch videos but for now I think WW is more "all around" rider ✌
Do you think a street tire would be better for city riding?
I highly recommend putting the accel and brake assist up and giving that a really good try. It was awkward for me riding at first with those settings turned up but once I got use to it, it made the wheel feel WAY more nimble and comfortable slinging it around in tight trail lines. Also, I am about 230-240 riding weight.
What's your breaking distance compared to other wheels though? I would be surprised if you come close to a wheel with good torque and smaller diameter, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure it's okay-ish but I don't like this trend of "safe" wheels getting slower and slower to stop due to being so big and tuned for top speed over torque. That's two steps in the unsafe direction if yo ask me.
also could u please advise on ur suspension settings? i'm 80 kilos and i've played with all different settings, but the suspension still feels harsh on my root and groove infested road. only riding it in florida on non hilly pavement. no stairs, no curbs, no injuries for me. i'm no youngster. just turned 69. riding the michelin pilot street 2 tire at 40 psi so it lives up to it's name, the challenger. great wind wheel, everything else the most challenging wheel i've ever purchased.
Considering cancel my batch 1 extreme pre order after two reported cutouts at 52 and 35mph, v13 is on sale for 3600ish and sherman s is still 4k, ex30 is 3600ish too, which one would you guys recommend? Mainly used for street and sidewalk commute, 25-35mph for 22 miles on daily base, hope to have slightly higher top end speed and more than 50 percent battery by end of commute, normally depends on how much I push the wheels my s22 and v11 both end with 44-49 percent battery
i wish u could try it with the michelin street pilot 2 tire like i have on mine. i would think the smaller outside diameter tire would be torquier.
When will you do a complete Begode T4 test?
great and professional review!
Maybe Inmotion elettronically limited the usable torque to have some reserve in order to try to prevent cutoffs?
Despite winter, nice review as usual. This V13 is mostly suitable for long trips on the tarmac. I am rural, and ride off road most time. Not for me, my goal is the S22 pro.
I'm getting the S22 Pro aswell, hope its nice
Don't overlook the Patton before you buy an S22
i live to send, im buying the gold edition s22
patton seems to handle jumps as well yet it seems like for ultimate sends and jumps like Mike Leahy does upgrading the s22 suspension with a stronger spring is the only option especially for people over 90kg
@@matf4505 if you want a all around wheel the patton is awesome, but if you want to go off road the s22 is far superior, 130mm of travel, a bigger wheel or obstacle clearance, and lhb it looks better too. im not sure how well the 16 wheel feel over 50 tbh as well when you hit a pot hole etc but if you want to go fast, longer rides and do a little offroad the paton is a good wheel, but yeah i wish the s22 pro went just a little faster on top end like 45-50 would have made me a bit happier at the 3200 price point
Another great review dude! Nice!
Thanks Matt!
does it have speakers built in?
Where are you mounting your mic to have such a clear sound? I have tryed so many things, but either the people hear me breathing like darth vader or they cant hear me at all... but the perfect sound of you seems unreachable for me 😂😅 would be great of you have a tipp... thanks so far... and as I sayed awesome video as always 🎉🎉❤
NICE!! he aprendido a amar los EUC (ando en scoorter)!!! serán mi próxima compra ahhaha, saludos desde Chile!!!
Amigo eres un fiera, haces un gran trabajo 👍
Didnt inmotion advertise 300nm of torque for the v13?
Do you use pinlock for your helmet? my seem to fog up without it when i ride.
Yes I do! Works ok!
the tourque issue is enough for me to stop caring about this one
dear mr wrongway, could u explain exactly what u were doing at 8:40 of ur video showing the wheel tipping forward? i almost faceplanted not expecting a dip forward from a standing start and up against an one inch shoulder of my road. i'm no rider like u, but i've put 1167km on this wheel on my half km long private road up and back, which is 2,334 starts and stops, and i think ur review is dead on accurate. it seems the wheel pulls strong once it spools up, but weak off the line. i've never overpowered a wheel since starting riding 6 years ago. gave me nightmares!
What’s the main reason your bearings are going on the Max? Rain/water or just bad bearings?
Wait what? The new SherMax he just got a couple months ago?
It’s currently at Seth’s workshop. I’ll post info once I know :)
@@mr_wrongway please do Adam. I’m just about to buy one myself because of your purchase and the recent price drop that hit with the Patton.
Thanks very much 👍
Jakiś filmik o Veteran Patton będziesz robił jak tylko będzie dostępny? ;-)
Takkkkk
@@mr_wrongway To czekam, bo to koło, na które najbardziej z nowości liczę ;-)
I would love to try this but I don’t know how to swim.
Bardzo, bardzo fajna recezja. Tak trzymaj 👍
Everything in this video is exactly how i expect when they release spec sheet about V13 and for me like 120kg(260lbs) full gear rider just Nooo Waaay!. 🧸
Be very careful with Sherman S🛑 because have masive problem in FW or hall sensor in jump(in air) when you tire start rotating backwards Sherman S cant handle this and instant cut out after you land and need front rotation.
This is afected in veteran Patton too be carefull all EUC riders! 🐍
You don’t want a v13 because you’re heavy? Isn’t that the reason to get a big powerful wheel?
@@darkstar4494 V13 is Low torque WEAK every other actual 3500Eur /USD EUC on market is more powerfull. My max speed is around 26 MPH 40 km/h i no need V13 high speed motor. Tire diameter is bigest factor in low speed torque and big size TIRE on V13 is logicaly weak spot. Most important is TORQUE = BRAKE POWER.
@@egrseec For lightweight riders under 80kg maybee. V13 is amazing machine but tire diameter is big factor against low end torque (simply small whell is easy to rotate compare to biger diameter wheel) This is applied in cars bikes motorcycles ETC is just physics. And becasue V13 have bigest tire diameter in EUCs logicaly low end torque is punished. Again V13 is brilinat amazing great manufactured euc an i belive many riders this machine make happy. Good luck and thx for reply.
nice video, appreciate the review. concerning inmotions dev team, i think they have every thing under control. especially with the recent posting from forwardnbak, it looks like its going to be an interesting few months coming up. and of course, more stuff for you to review too !
Obsessed with your nails!
Finally the king 👑 of the wheels 🤩
I went from v12ht to this. 2500k no issues on it. Less then 25k on the v13. I got wobbles and crashed. I tried to go too fast without much experience on the new wheel. While using the stock pads. Silly me. I have the nylonov kinetic 2.0 pads on order and a sore bum.
i like the idea of a 16 inch v13 version, and kudos to vetran for moving in the right direction with the patton
I've seen this near my job and it's a thing of beauty. I wonder if it's too tall for me as a 5' tall woman. Thinking of waiting to see what a future V15 will look like though.
That sucks that it won't even balance at 4%. How are you supposed to walk it?
Top notch video Adam. You are the best wheel ride reviewer out there for sure :-). Inmotion definatelly should create HT version of this wheel (same rim, different motor). 140km freespin is craaazy overkill.
I weigh 270 pounds, but limit is 265. Am I too heavy to consider purchasing this? At most I might be able to lose 5 pounds to be at max weight capacity, but realistically I will be closer to 275 on the average.
They should have option for 18"or20" wheel/motor module to swap out the 22" wheel/ motor.
A G R E E !!!
Why do you have blue painted nails?
you need to test the EX30 even you said that won't work anymore with begode wheels until they improve quality, the EX30 seems like much better quality than previous ones
more because you have tested the master and master pro, so you would be the best person to compare them
I think the breaking is a deal (breaker). And that should be highlighted heavily in reviews, especially for wheels by companies that market themselves for safety supposedly. So maybe we can push some change for future wheels. We need to have a breaking distance standard I think to keep manufacturers honest and maybe curb some of this silly top speed and out of control wheel weight trend that we are seeing.
How many people do actually want to go 80, 90,100 kph+ on these things? It is good to have the overhead sure but imo not at the cost of trading so much torque that you can't break safely and quickly. The sooner everyone realizes that these things aren't motorcycles the better imo.
" The faster you go the more fun the V13 is ". I don't know why the "safe" company makes wheels with that design personally 😅
I don't think they could justify the price without being able to cruise at 40 mph with headroom. It seems like they've been alternating btw the suspension halo product and the biggest mass market appeal.
I would love if their next wheel is a T4 killer rather than non-suspension, but I guess we'll see what direction they go.
Seems like it's a good idea to speed up before hills off road with that wheel.
Definetely! The inertia of the heavy wheel helps too!
I don't think removing the rim will make it much lighter. A lot more nimble though.
I got the overpriced seat and I love it. Seated riding is another great way of having EUC fumn, also you can ride longer trips if you sit some of the time.
You don’t like your feet melting off the pedals?
"the overpriced seat" 😂😂😂😂
Really? Even the V11 has more torque than the V13? These two motors are massively different!
At low speed i could climb the 40° incline on V11, not on V13
It's fun to watch the evolution of the Wheel - a 2nd time! Trial and Error - better, faster, stronger. Wait until A.I. - that will be interesting.
It clearly doesn't have 300Nm of torque as far as I can see
Definetely not at low speeds
Thanks, Adam. With the caveat of never having ridden it, I'll say 'not thanks'. At 68kg, it's too big and too expensive. But who knows, my tune might change if I tried it. I'm partial to my Sherman Max. It's stable and responsive enough for me.
You’re welcome! It’s 54kg! Or you mean your weight? :) the Shermax is great but actually I’m getting second thoughts 🙈
@@mr_wrongway Yes, 68 is me.
what's up with the nail polish?
The nail polish looks dope, that's what's up.
😅😅😅 if you are a lighter rider 😅😅😅 love that 😅😅 I experience every day that lighter riders (I have around 60kg) have it easier to do hillclimb and stuff but at breaking it can get really tricky really fast... thanks for all your perfect videos where you really show pro and cons and all that... 🎉🎉🎉 You are just awesome... ride hard stay safe gruuuzzz
even when not riding, the motor sucks power just to balance the machine itself, which leads to voltage drop, and maybe the way InMotion programmed their BMS to have a slightly higher cutoff, which leads to the wheel die at 4%. (Consider how much copper is there in the motor, there's gonna be a decent amount of electricity flowing in it)
Sure. You can calculate that and decide that 4% is 0%. It’s hard to plan a journey when you don’t know that at 5% you can’t ride. I think you should be able to ride until 0% (with same range, just displayed information to be more accurate)
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Hi i came on a different topic. I will wish you review begod Ex30 i predict the wheel can do 100 or 105kmh before hearing the beeps. Other reviewers i have watched on other channels only had balls to reach 80 to 90kmh and they never heared a beep. I think you can put the beep at highest volume so you can possibly hear it beep at such speed.
Master pro has higher free spin than ex30 and it start beeping at 95-96kph. I don't see ex30 faster than master pro
@@alexutlang videos i have watched i do see ex30 start beeping at 100 or 105kmh at free spin. I would like to see it beep with a load or human on it at full battery to know what speed it will start beeping.
@Chibuike Mbah have you experienced riding on euc at 90kph? I did many times my monster pro and sherman s. i don't think it's safe to do that on ex30 first the wind is too strong at 100kph 2nd no grab bars to hold on to.
@@alexutlang well am hoping daredevils like Adam will achieve a speed record on Ex30 aerodynamically
@Chibuike Mbah my friend cut out on master pro over 100kph with 4800wh battery. The battery sag on ex30 will be insane at that speed. Maybe a 60kgs rider can hit it for few seconds. I heard V13 can safely hit 110kph for few seconds when full power is unleash
Uuuhhh at the beginning the wheel sayed hyyy 😂😂😂😂
We want V13 S!
YAS !!!
Guy at 5:31 looked like he seen a ghost.🤣
You're simply not the target customer for 100+lbs wheels, just like the Abrams and Master Pro. All of them are easily rideable by riders around 100kg and above.
So, It does some things really well but disappointing in others. Braking , torque level and handling are the necessary. The EUC world plus it is nice to have convenience and this thing is heavy but that is not so bad as I don’t lift my EUC but once or twice a month max . This V13 is different as it is stable but doesn’t stop as fast as wanted. I have found that emergency stops are rare for me having thousands of miles on my Sherman so I plan for what might come up ahead but it used to be scary when I started out. The mind set changes as you get more miles of experience the EUC rider adapts plans ahead so hard braking is rare. I have gotten accolades from bystanders because in the normal mode of riding it looks really impressive to turn and avoid a sudden traffic choke like things can come together and you just have to find this magic escape route or crash ( it must to the bystander look pretty impressive). This wheel is an open road wheel comparatively but over time it can probably be figured out and be made to work. Maybe It just doesn’t have that playfulness and I would miss my Sherman. I just haven’t found a replacement that tantalizes enough to purchase YET.
If you put acceleration and braking assist all the way up it's the best EUC in the market for both acceleration and brakes
Clear fingernail polish is best. Looking for a pole 😂
Parts of Los Angeles city roads are *not* safe at even 20kmh. Suspension is required. 😅
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Nice review and all but damn...Poland has really upped the ante in terms of infrastructure: bike lanes, the quality of road surface (here we get recycled asphalt that needs cold patching before winter has ended), lane markings, greenery. here in USA/CAN all we got is crumbling infrastructure, potholes you can swim in, car-laden culture with no dedicated lanes for bicycles (forget bike paths even), dirty, dangerous and full of f@#$s in lifted f150 garbage. I ride all of my 3 EUCs A LOT (work commute) and Wroclaw, Warsaw, Cracow, Poznan, Szczecin and many mid sized cities put the garbage we have here to shame. Keep on riding!
It's not the first video like that, but could you please tell us the story of your nails?)
Haha it’s my self expression :) wanted to do that since a while! Also a opportunity to “nail polish” puns :)
If someone watching you first time maybe he will think its good wheel but I personally feel that you sfuffered riding V13 😂
It’s not bad at all! I enjoy riding on it! It’s heavy but enjoyable :)
@@mr_wrongway I was considering v13 and sherman S and my prediction was correct. After this move I confirmed my thoughts that it's not a wheel for me. It's very modern with a lot of nice features buts its a heavy wheel to ride confortable but only straight. Anything more require a lot of effort
Nice! Pozdrowionka!
Dzięki! Pozdrówki! ;)
Is this a paid promotion?
No but many YT content creators get a small commission kickback for each wheel they help sell from any one of several regional EUC retailers. While these fees help support each provider's channel respectively, the commission is on basically per wheel sold, so that the incentive to over-sell one brand versus another is minimized, which keeps the moral hazards of manipulation at a minimum. It's not a perfect incentivization program but it seems more biased toward the consumers (like us). Rather than being biased to promote the latest and greatest gizmo, EUC YTers get paid by proving the quality fidelity in their reviews over time.
There are other factors that influence bias that create mildly wonky content decisions, like personality, likability, access, location, viewer count, etc... but these problems relate more to the inefficiencies of marketing and sales in general.
If you watch enough EUC content, you'll come to want to use the discount code of your favorite YTer. Much of the rewards for deceptive content gets minimized over time, as you get to know the community but if you're new to the sport and impulsive, then YOU might end up choosing to reward a YTer based on your own lack of due diligence, in which case you might use someone else's code for your next wheel purchase. Most YTers are paid for consistency of message over time, and this is in the consumers favor.
Does that help?
I was in between v13 and ex30 for my next wheel with more incline towards v13 due to the enhanced security measures yet the use of redundant yet weak mosfet configuration clearly kills the torque in this wheel. Shame to waste a wheel like this by putting such a weak controller
Oh my god he’s on one now no way 😂 no torque? Fix your settings maybe 🤔
meh not for me..living in hilly area with 10-25 inclines.with my 100 kg weight and constant 50 kmh speeds.probably i would drain in very quick in my city.
I would get a bigger wheel, but the police are more interested in stopping riders than catching real criminals.
Breaking it is possibly easier than braking it - ask U-stride! 😂
I don't really care what u-stride says. Wasn't he the guy who burned down his therapist's office building?
@@mostpassiveuser8904 burned down a building? :O what happened??
@@mostpassiveuser8904 I haven't heard that but if he did, I'm sure they deserved it. 😂 A rumor like that really deserves a link, otherwise it reflects badly on the messenger. U-stride has impeccable integrity for the years I've been following him.
@@mostpassiveuser8904 not that guy
Gonna have to disagree with you. The wheel has a lot of torque. Try it without suspension. You feel it right away. The suspension takes a bit of the torque off.
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… you touched briefly on rider weight, so there seems to B a mktg issue. This sport is gaining more popularity in the US… where sales volume would be affected more, by “ body mass” . Also, affordability…( tiptoeing on that nasty - opulent fat issue). Seems like we’re at the beginnings of manufacturing wars; ( would you rather have an “ EVO or a Dodge Ram P/U ?)… Wazzzup w/ nail polish?,.,.,.
Ummm nail polish, bro? 😮 I’m confused.
Hmm. You keep saying "Sherman Max".
Your incline test is NOT valid - looks like you set your hardness to 100%, on this wheel it needs to be set at 0% to be hard (opposite setting of all other wheels). Check your Brake Assist and Accelerate Assist settings also - lower = harder. With the peddles set to their hardest setting - lean as hard as you can forward/back, you wont be able to pitch the wheel forward/back like you did you your video. The V13 will climb any hill that the tire can stick to (deflated street tire helps a lot - Michelin Pilot Street 2 Tire 80/90-16)
I always feel like inmotion is the Apple of EUCs. Not the fastest, not the highest stats, but everything is high quality and done carefully.
You would think but actually not always the case...they're almost there but Inmotion is definitely still really sloppy and I can say this after having multiple V11s.
Exactly like Apple: we perceive high quality of products despite imperfections. 😅
You are correct in some way. Basically you are paying for the illusion of safety (which was never proven in real life scenarios, even opposite), and orange painting scheme aka apple logo 🤣🤣 and like apple, when you really need to get work done with good performance you get a pc, here you get a begode, sherman, or extreem bull 🤣
@@MrPoliarinis Apple products are just fine when you need to get work done. Whether it's video editing, software development, etc. What Apple excels at is taking your work from one device to another seamlessly.
@@LaMereACaniche unfortunately no. Pto Video editing..still apple is not an option, Engineering software also no... apple is good to have at home as home PC, maybe for artists or so.. but not professional work. Migrating from device to device ( ipad, iphone, macbook) is not a feature usefull for professionals... it's feature for home users... prores and lighting port is good sample of that
Strange you let serg paint your nails, weird man.... look forward to the review. I rode one a few weeks ago its a bit heavy
I got them painted on a date with a girl :D fun times :) thanks for looking forward! I’m curious how it’ll stack up after 1000km :)
@mr_wrongway I do enjoy your sense of humor, and yes, one needs at least 1000km to get a good feel for the wheel. 👍
Yoooooooooooo
Too big too Heavy.
And the 5 percent battery is true for every litium ion battery. Even when u see 0 percent it's still have 5 percent left that u cant utilize
Inmotion sucks, my completely new V12 HS disintegrated itself after 200km, I don't expect to experience anything different from V13. I bought V12 after hyped Wrong Way!'s review and now I regret that decision: the wheel appeared to be unreliable, insecure, hard to service and made from low quality parts (first the lights and then the bearings went off really quick).
Stay away from the latest IM products, V10 or V10F it's completely different, higher league of quality
INMOTION rocks! Have had my v12 HT for a year and put close to 3500 km on it. Zippy, reliable and well built. My Sherman is used only on longer rides
I hate this wheel and i have never ridden it.
Nice fingernails.
Jakies takies te negatywne wideo robisz . Ale z drugiej strony wyrażasz swoją opinie
Too much travel when braking....dangerous
WERY BIG. NO GUD.
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those nails don't match your outfit, white nail polish would have looked so much better.
wish they'd make a useful wheel and stop cloning the boring ass sherman