InMotion V13 Review: The Best Quality EUC Left Us Wanting...
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
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The Inmotion V13 EUC (Electric Unicycle) has become a popular choice among EUC enthusiasts who prioritize safety and quality. The overall design of the V13 makes it the most refined EUC we have reviewed on the channel.
In this review, we’ll take a closer look at what we love and hate about the Inmotion V13 Challenger, and examine why it’s considered one of the safest wheels on the market.
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quick and easy disassembly. while at times a little more time consuming than other particular wheels, the additional time spent is from the engineering and build quality that reflects on it.. it's not hard to take apart and very intuitive to take apart.. even without the mass of InMotion videos that have been published. lol.
balls to the walls, I haven't seen under 30 miles of range. I can get maybe 38 or so miles hauling my 200lb butt.. still waiting to go even faster. lol.
thanks for the shoutout! 🥰
@Begodecrashtestdummy no one knows until it happens. not like the EX30 gets much range maintaining high speeds either. 🤷
I got the V13 and am loving it. I'm a 240-lb guy who rode it for 50+ miles in a rain/snow storm this past weekend. I do wish it had a seat and more disposable/modular bumpers, but Clarkpads has an awesome system available for both. Coming from a V12 and Mten4, it's a big adjustment - like riding a horse. But I love it, and it's definitely my new commuter wheel in Boston.
What speeds you travelled doing your 50+ miles
Another very thorough job, Jimmy you guys did great. Thanks for all your input.
I was so stoked for the v13 and sure it's a solid wheel. Underwhelmed by the range? yes, are other wheels a better buy... I think so. I do love that Orange!!!
What would you say is better? Because as of now I'm sold on this one
just watched the first minute and it seems like a movie. really well done cutting, filming ..... just everything.
Thanks Bruce!
I really enjoyed your review of the V13. Excellent video.
Hi guys, there is a seat and kickstand for V13. It depends on your dealer. Some are providing seat and kickstand included. The seat is nice, just the perfect size, and is does not cover the handle. Instead the handle fold over a central notch on the seat. The kickstand is good too. Not the foldable system but fixed. I had my fears about it because I do not like these foot too low, exposing to be hit by rocks etc. This is just right. Solid, easy to install, stable and high to prevent interfering. Then, inevitably the vehicle has to leans back a lot, making harder to get to the charging ports (unless connecting the charger before tilting back). My V13 has in-built spikes on the pedals, not screws. The lower section of the suspension slider, has four threaded holes where to easily attach 3D printed pieces or even metal fenders if desired. The rebound adjustment is easy once knowing how to. Just screw it gently to the end and on turn back (counterclockwise) one turn for cruising, two for multipurpose and three for frequent obstacles (rally/offroading). No clics, so you can set in between levels as desired. The tool, just a 5mm drill on the front of the seat and there you can insert it to keep it handy when needed.
What I have noticed is that many are using it with >35PSI on the tire "as usual" and no surprise they experience wobbles. It is a similar tire than Cordial for V12HT. It is not a common tire, but made to be used with very low pressure (maximum 40PSI for 180kg on top). I wish you could tell us your opinion about how it behaves when changing the pedal's height and angle. I prefer middle height and stock side angle. What about your the settings? I like it with pedal sensitivity at 20%, power assist with accelerate at 75% and brake at 30%. Well calibrated, I set it at 1º forward. Your video shows a V13 with the tire being swapped; was is worth and would you recommend to do it? What I do miss for V13 is a 12A portable charger. Adjustable chargers Battis-style, are too big and heavy. V13 is fast even at low battery levels, but it does not mean we have to ride it a these high speeds (decreasing range and exposing us to severe injuries).
It is nice to see mature and responsible riders. We need you guys. Thanks so much for sharing.
Nice review. I like how you talk about riding it seated.
Thanks for your thoughts fellas! All good points. I'm expecting my range to be on the higher end due to my riding environment. Not a lot of places that I can really open it up for extended periods of time. Here in Australia the place I ordered my V13 from (E-Riderz) was kind enough to include the official stand and seat with my order for free. The seat is great! The stand however, even though it's stable, solid and does the job, interferes with the mudguard when in use. Good to have nonetheless. Thanks for the content!
Just imagine an inmotion v13 plus with more battery (3600wh), not to say the battery on it is bad for average riding, I see them doing something like this done the road! 😊
Thanks Jimmy and Andrew! Most of the riders I know that have ridden the V13 and EX30 have picked the EX30. I am also leaning on adding the EX30 later this year for my longer range street cruiser. I like the Master Pro but don't want something quite that large.
I would get ex30 too. I heard its easier to control.
Thanks Jimmy chang!
@Freshly Charged
Can you guys show the the pedals height comparison like you do on this video? side by side 10:20
Hey Jimmy and Andrew, hope I’m not pushing buttons but I wanted to ask why y’all haven’t done a review on the Sherman S. If you have done one, hope I didn’t miss it. Thank you
The trolley handle hinge broke on my V12-HT I think because in a tumble the trolley handle can catch on something and torque against the metal frame and break the hinges off. Does the V13 rollbar look like it could prevent the trolley handle from breaking off in a tumble?
OH, at least it looks like the trolley handle hinge plate on the V13 can screw off and easily be replaced when damaged, design looks improved to me! Damn, I wish my V12 had the handle design like that. Now I have to spend a lot of money to replace the whole top part of the EUC. >.>
I am an owner of a v12ht. I always see the ultra speeds and quick ridings. But what is the range on a normal speed?
Also I am afraid that the « speed demons » running at 50+mph past pedestrians will get euc banned as this is a stupid and dangerous move. As you guys said: a smart euc dies not replace your brain.
The v12ht has currently no issues for me. Ihad an issue. But I have figured out that when I plug it in immediately after riding, it gives a battery error sometimes as it is not ready. Waiting 1 minute from my ride, no errors.
How does the touchscreen react to light rain tapping on it? Is there a rain cover?
The electronics have an IPX6 water resistance rating so you should be good to ride it in light rain.
Maybe I missed it but what is the other euc you guys are riding in the video?
It's the Sherman Max
Inmotion never said that it won’t have cutoffs, they want to achieve it from the hardware side of things, like putting 42 fets, 18 caps, 2 halls, etc. so from this side the margin of parts failing gets narrower, but the cutoff most of the times is because user fault or overpowering the device and all of euc’s will cutoff because of this, we don’t have and will never have unlimited battery power.
If you can't tell this is a biased probably sponsored review by their competitors, they're making up reasons to not like this unit.
HELP! I'm looking for my first EUC or one wheel. My longest rides on it will likely be 10 miles and I only weigh 170lbs. I'm looking new or used at something like the MTen4 or other budget models as I'm not sure if I'll love it for long. Please give me some suggestions! it will be likely used 99% on road
mten4 isn't something I would recommend for road use.. especially for a 10 mile ride. get something bigger and more comfortable. 16" wheel at the minimum.
@begodecrashtestdummy Kingsong 16x or 18xl, Inmotion v11 (suspension) or v12 (non-susp.)... I have (2) 16x models and love them. If it's your first wheel, buy the cheapest working "used" wheel you can find.
@begodecrashtestdummy I know that there are a select number of determined individuals that can learn and thrive on an advanced/heavier wheel but far more people try EUCs and end up quitting from frustration. In the downhill skiing industry, more than 90% of newcomers quit skiing for a lifetime after trying only once... and the industry has suffered and is almost inaccessible to the average person as a result.
In order to organically grow as a sport or viable transportation substitute, the EUC industry must attract a retain as many individuals as possible; to me, this means guiding people into the best options for beginning their lifetime addiction to EUCs, which means small reliable learning wheels that have a broad performance range yet are more easily adopted. For this reason I tend to encourage inexperienced newcomers to learn on the smallest wheel that is viable for their mission or perceived goal. 10" to 14" wheels are great to learn on but people tend to upgrade within the year to a 16" to 18" intermediate level wheel, so I'd encourage a newcomer to learn on the smallest option possible, as the increasing weight of the EUC can make the learning cure insurmountable to many.
I've watched plenty of enthusiastic people go for an oversized wheel only to have considerable regrets, even if they are determined to pick up the skill at any cost. But. for me, I think that the community is practically self-sabotaging the growth rate of this PEV segment when we don't explicitly say that new users should "slow their roll" and forego those sexy new wheels and focus on learning on a smaller/lighter unit. I'm not saying that learning to ride cannot be done on a heavy wheel but the attrition rate is undesirable to both manufacturers and the broader community.
Inmotion has recognized this problem and is now focusing on improving their small wheel offerings by developing 14" & 16" suspension, just like LeaperKim who is bringing the Patton model to market soon. I hope that Kingsong will upgrade the 16x to suspension soon too, but I haven't heard rumors to that effect yet.
What ramp are you using, Jimmy?
Link in description
Nice
whats the most water resistant EUC / PEV?
With IP rating in euc v11 v12 and v13 have IP rating in e-scooters the nami burn-e and the new kaboo mantis king i think all have ipx5
They need to put in a second battery that is only to keep upright if it is going to cut.
I have a conundrum... I live in Seattle where hills and weather can be a major problem for electric things, and I'm looking for a better "grocery getter." I would be 100% down to get a EUC, but I'm really concerned they will be made illegal soon. Have you guys looked into the long term legality of these vs ebikes? My thought is that ebikes can be "hidden" while in use better than EUC's so as a long term investment they are a safer bet.
Once things become illegal, they also become harder to get so the street price goes up. But in general, I can’t worry myself about what could POSSIBLY happen in the future. Life’s too short for that.
Calculated risk with e-bike 7 years ago, calculated risk 2 ys ago with EUC. If the powers that be make it illegal, i am will politely disagree. I mean the current system for getting a drivers liscense is a joke, literally thousands of people, in enormous vehicles, who cannot drive.... all across N.A. currently.....so do your thing.
If EUCs are targeted for enforcement, then I'll simply leave for a more free country. Vote with your passport. E-bikes are a poor substitute for EUCs.
@@grb1969 Agreed. No comparison. EUC is another level of transport. Period.
i have usually thought that these single wheel electric vehicles are kinda dumb but i have to say that i kinda like how minimalistic these are. :)
Minimalistic? Thing looks like something out of a sci-fi film... and it does have more paint and tech than most scoots.. even a fan.. And the module design is pretty new.. upright scooters that cost 2, 3 grand don't off that.. makes the idea of pneumatic and vacuum sealed or tubeless tires more viable.
ride one, then say stuff
It does not have passive cell balancing on the battery packs , which is really bad.
I posted this in another comment, but I'll post it again, because I think a well presented counterargument to this rumour is only fair. Take from it what you want:
czcams.com/video/Z6BbrjI8iX8/video.html
Top speed 55MPH with cutout headroom. Warning: This Ewheel can be overpowered with no prior cutout warning. Range for it's weight class is Limited to it's sustained speed @ travel. ( This wheel is Not for Beginners.😜)
I have V12HT, that wheel is perfect. Geat size and amazing built quality. The same awesome display. It has great kickstand, so very disapointing that V13 has none. V13 built quality must be top notch, but the weight i just too much. For high performance suspension wheel Sherman-S or even EX30 are much better choices.
Thanks for sharing
Did you prefer it to the hs?
@@andrewbakker7640 HT for sure, better power and durability, speed is enough for me and still at 15% battery it can go 40km/h.
@Andrew Bakker based on Wrong Ways recent post, it seems like there isn't a difference between the HS and HT V12.
Sherm S needs to increase voltage!
V13 is good but too heavy! V14 is coming soon!
00:01 sounds like a bag of bricks being dragged down some stairs 👀
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Good review 👍
Apparently not a smart bms!
A good wheel, yes. For the price it should be a great wheel. Another over hyped wheel kinda like the KS S20?, time will reveal 😁.
Cheers
Fair enough
I have to somewhat disagree. I was one of the first to receive the production s22. I was expecting a better end result due to the fact they canceled the original release and did a live prototype test with riders around the world for feedback to make improvements before manufacturing. The release was rocky it did piss me off beyond belief. I had to send it back 2 days later due to errors all over the place right out of the box. Then, I sent it back for temperature sensor failure, and a motor swap was available. The downtime was frustrating. I doubt I will buy another kingsong again.
However, after the motor swap and repairs 3k km's and just last week I installed the Hou Ningning 8 ceramic bearing kit, and I got to say there is no gyrowheel on the market that comes anywhere in the same neighborhood as the s22. For this reason, it is hands down the most fun to ride, extremely plush it gives you endless confidence to take stairs, jumps, trails, and it does well on the streets.
I wouldn't say it was overhyped, but rather, our expectations were high. You have to realize it was also the first 126 volt wheel to this was seen as progress to the industry. Nearly one year later, with ironman pedals and the suspension upgrade, it provides an amazing experience better than I expected, provided if you wish to ride as I described above. However , if your thing is long-range cruising and on the streets, then get a Sherman-S.
In closing, imo this industry needs to be better for what we pay for these devices. Like we shouldn't have to spend additional money on ferrings, pads, suspension upgrades, and most of all good pedals, Sherman-S is a perfect example, gross, burn the mold for those peddles and piss on the ashes.
I rode the v13 a few days ago, it's a big boy and I agree not for a beginner lol.
"overhyped" uh, no.
The kickstand on the wheel is better than the V12.
For how much it costs? How much does it cost?
Not one person talks about the cost it must be ridiculously high😂
$4k for a wheel that weighs more than some adults that I know sounds about right though lol
I would hate to fall on one of those
that's waht gear is for. same application for a motorcycle.
That comment about how “as technology gets smarter we use that as a license to get dumber” is a conversation about ‘moral hazard’. It not about religion or anything and is the relationship between safety measures and dangerous behavior.
It’s often referred to how much better safety equipment for football has gotten where players full sprint full body tackle now because of how they believe the equipment will protect them.
Good analogy
I can do 75 miles on my V13, cause I don’t ride fast. My comfortable speed is 25mph
What’s your weight?
if you knee or ankle is bad enough that stepping off a v13 pedal is a problem, i’d say you shouldnt be riding euc 🤷♂️
Shouldn’t this thing have a number plate, insurance etc ?
a vehicle with one wheel ca't legally be registered. screw the laws anyway. can bikes, then ebikes, and e scooters be registered are are? nope, and they've been around for ages. funny part is EUCs actually came to be well before e-scooters, some of the first being solowheel in 2014. e scooters gained WAY more media traction around 2016 - 2018 (2018 especially), because of the simple, original concept of a scooter, just motorized. on top of that, a lot of cities started to create and rent out scooters too. I wouldn't count in the older, cheapie department store ones like Razor and all that, they're for kids
I love my v11, but the v13 needs more range to justify that price
it does plenty to justify the price and they made it clear it wasn't for range
Matter of opinion, but I wouldn’t spend 4k or more, on something that can’t go over 50 miles! I’m not knocking it, at 3.5k it would be in my consideration for purchasing. But at 4k or more, it ranks 3rd at best, if not 4th or 5th currently (since ex30’s are coming in)
@@stevescott5858 true but imo i wouldn't buy a wheel that's 4k and doesn't even have communication between the bms and motherboard
Watch WrongWay vid on their lack of cell balancing, and why it usually doesn’t charge to the full 126v
@@stevescott5858 the v13 has passive cell balancing and doesn't charge to 126v for the sake of battery longevity because of what the manufacturer recommends
Terrifying. I want one.
Thing looks fun but the way you bend your back like that would put my old man back out m, it's a machine for the young I suppose. 😅
I rather have the Sherman S, more range, lighter, better suspension...
Get a seat youll love it.
Let's remember bearings are not waterproof or rust proof.
Thirst
too heavy, sherman s suspension way better. Cant wait for the lighter veteran patton i like the portability.
Sherman s for me. This is tooo big
It makes the veteran Sherman look like a toy yet the range is only a FRACTION? And low speed cutouts? Why would anyone buy this? Just get a Sherman.
To bad these things cost almost as much as a car!
Quality? Where? Range? Where? Lol
the electrical system is great. the size, weight, battery capacity and suspension miss the mark.
you can't blame inmotion for stupid riders going 50 on a side walk or the cutout because that cutout had nothing to do with the wheel and had everything to do with a bad rider
I've seen 3 low speed cutouts on CZcams and reddit so far. All hit a bump going fairly slow and it cutout kinda like the v11s were doing
@@matf4505 were they the pre production wheels? if so that doesn't really matter
@@matf4505 I haven't seen the low speed cutouts on the V13 but the V11 was plagued with them.
Low speed cutouts and bolts are failing like crazy. Also the range was much worse than expected. Kinda disappointed
bolt issue ON DEMO wheels was corrected immediately by Inmotion. And new bolts were either installed prior to shipping or sent to customers who received their wheels. And zero low speed cutouts lol the ONE guy who CRASHED his v13 was because of stupidity and inexperience. He f*cked around, and found out. Wanted to be a hero pushing the wheel wayyyy too hard...yes, EVERY single wheel ever made has limits. You win most ignorant comment award.
bolts are not failing like crazy.....just made that up.
Link to low speed cutouts please
@@hobocat33 inmotion is sending new motor bolts out to any retailer who purchased the v13. How can I make that up? Easily fact checked. Ask your dealer...
@@hereallyfast v13 cut out on youtube or reddit should show at least 3 different cutouts. 2 were non production models and 1 was. I'm not doing your homework, look it up. I'm sure there's more
with such type of suspension, its the best? seriously? i would say THE WORST
it's rubbish. 54 Kg for less than 80km of range.
Balls to the walls will kill any euc range. Riding moderately helps quite a bit.
for over 2k and not to have a seat is pretty stingy. Like getting a car without cup holders.
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I love these death machines!
Trikes are available.