Should Stephon Castle be on the Charlotte Hornets' "Do Not Draft" list?
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- Walker and Doug are back together again! The guys share their thoughts on the NBA draft combine and more on Stephon Castle's desire to play on-ball at the NBA level. Should the Hornets stay away? The guys transition into the trends of the NBA and discuss the Hornets winning the Gordon Hayward trade by a wide margin.
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#Hornets #LaMelo #LaMeloBall - Sport
Glad to see the parents back together 🥲
Hornets can Tall Ball with the best of them if they hit this year...
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Can't get on board with drafting a player whose scouting report leads off with "plays great defense" this is code for "offensively challenged" this falls in line with draft prospects like Michael Kidd Gilcrest and Nerlens Noel, we know what happened to them....HARD pass.
He was also a freshman
He plays a role valued a lot in the league. Even if you think the expectations of himself is exaggerated he’s still at this age have fundamental IQ and understanding of the game specially defensively. something that you can’t overlook.
It’s not like he’s Ben Simmons. He shoots!
Ignorant take lol. Your guys defense is bottom of the barrel and you have plenty of offense. I get it, hornets don’t know too much about what a winning team looks like. You need elite defensive defensive players in your lineup with how bad your defense is
You couldn't be more right. Defense isn't a skill, it's a choice. Great defense always loses to great offense.
He is much more than a defender his offense is good other than outside shooting but his shot is not broken like MKG not even close lol. Can’t be scared off of high upside prospects with offensive questions just because MKG was a bust lol that’s silly and such a Hornets mentality
@@cwhite4339 and great offense but horrific defense leads you to the lottery every single year
Don’t draft him. He already talking about wanting to be a point guard naw. We already have one of him in Cody Martin
He's a combo guard💯he can play PG/SG especially if melo running the point but choose to be more aggressive it's nothing wrong with a 6'5/6'6 top premier defender & secondary pass skill
@@pitoseavy4523 that’s not the problem, castle won’t even come workout for teams with a pg bc he wants to be the guy wherever he goes
Castle is clearly trying to improve his stock as an on-ball creator to be drafted 2, 3 or 4. If he falls to 6th, I don't think he would be as adamant about being on-ball and losing money doing so.
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Man , hornets fans have no idea what they’re talking about lmao. They don’t like potentially elite defensive players when their defense is awful. Make it make sense
Not saying he will be great which you need at 6 but he can fit and become a smaller iggy mcdaniels battier type player imo...every team winning team needs a glue guy like this..picking him at 6 is the issue
@@razkable you need those type of glue guys on winning teams . And he’s only 19, I think he can develop his offensive game over the years. You guys already have your bucket getters in lamelo and brandon miller. Time to get those great defenders. I also believe it’s the type of game where you need multiple ball handlers offensively which he can help with too
Any update on James Nnaji?
Hoping they get buzelis personally. high ceiling and good size
Wouldn't be mad at it. I'd be fine with any of in no real order Sarr, Rischashe (sp), Shepard, Holland, Castle, Clingan, Buzelis, Williams, Salaun, may be missing someone.....
And I don't think anybody knows who the hell's going to hit in this draft so I'm just excited to get one of the above names and roll!
Go Hornets
Cody Williams I would draft over castle
I'm starting like the idea of Williams a lot
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TIDJANE SALAUN ??? 🔥… His size and style of play jumps of the screen for me
Honestly considering Lamelos injury history I don’t think castles comments are a problem at all he’ll have plenty of opportunities. But in all seriousness Lamelo is so unselfish that it will work just fine.
It sounds like he wants to be a star player with the ‘I’m a point guard’ comment and I think hornets need players that’ll play their role
I think that's valuable though. He played his role despite disagreeing with it. This is important in the NBA, even for star players. I don't think it's a complete no. I still lean toward Holland at the 2 or Buzelis at the 3... I think Castle goes to San Antonio.
Normally agree with Doug, but this is a bad take, IMO. He's clearly just trying to dispel the idea that he can't play on ball, is going to be offensively challenged, etc. to improve his draft stock. They're all doing that in these interviews. It would be silly to pass on a great fit between Ball and Miller because of one comment that he made about wanting to play with the ball in his hands. He's going to interview with the team presumably, and in that interview when Peterson is gonna ask him: "How do you feel about playing SG, having plenty of offensive opportunity between Melo and Miller, being a secondary ball handler, hounding guys 1-3 on D, and sometimes backup PG?" I would be shocked if Castle doubled down then and said, "Nah, I gotta be the primary initiator to be happy. It's that or nothing."
If he said that, then yeah, don't draft him. But it's way to early to put him on a 'Do not draft' list based on this comment - c'mon now.
What bothers me most is that he's from UCON which gave us James Bouknight!
PJ shined for the Mavs
I dont really have a favorite yet but i will say if you like castles fit at the 2 or something i wouldn't use his comments against him. He's saying he can run an offense and that his offense is better than you saw in college. Nothing wrong with that he's not saying he couldn't fit with melo and Brandon. Honestly his size and we were 29th in defense i think he would be a great pick but this draft is so up and down i think we need more time to know more.
Plus I'm not the best at evaluating talent but i did see miller was miles better than scoot i feel like you had to be blind do not see that last year
He's also obviously setting himself up to be an option for either Washington at 2 or San Antonio at 4 both of whom may take a point guard. This isn't that hard y'all his comments are a complete non issue.
No. And why would you all even bring this up? You had zero problem with them drafting a point guard last year in Scoot Henderson. The fact is we need someone who can play some point guard, because our point guard at present can't play point guard. In my mind it's a bonus if the person we pick can play point guard, because again we don't know if our point guard can play point guard.
I really think Castle is going 2 or 3 to Washington or Houston. Washington could use their PG of the future and I can imagine Udoka wanting him being a physical POA defender w/ championship pedigree.
The Hornets have a "star" point guard that is famous for shoes that lack ankle support, new tattoos, and old porn stars. I dont think the Hornets should shy away from drafting point guards.
They hated Cam Newton but love Melo.
This guy reminds me of a sg version of iggy who can be a sorta pg...if you look back at sophmore year iggy they play very similar...i would take him at 6
Don't think this is really hard to understand at all and unfortunately, the Charlotte fanbase won't enjoy the answer. Castle (and likely his reps) are trying to telegraph his draft spot to either San Antonio, who could really use him, or maybe Washington, where they need everything. If you're Castle, would you rather play with Pop, Wemby and Co. in San Antonio or in Charlotte? Think deep down, we all know the answer to that. When Rob Dillingham announced he was entering the NBA draft, he pretty much did the same thing. And in Washington, Castle would make more money and they're basically a blank slate in terms of their youth movement outside of Avidja and Coulibaly. So yeah, I don't think it's any secret what is going on and it's really hard to blame Castle considering Charlotte's track record up to this point.
Doug is absolutely right regarding Castle, I would not want him in my team, I trust the new management to make the best decision. I Liked Castle, but not after his comments, my preference will be Knecht, Risacher or Clingan. I don't trust anyone from the G-League (Buzelis or Holland).
Lmao draft scoot but don’t draft castle is crazy
Speaking of Castle and potentially not wanting to come to the Hornets, gotta remember the UCONN connection and we don’t know what Bouknight said about the organization.
This is a crazy take. I wouldn't take James Bouknight seriously
@@averiskonseptget where you’re coming from but also know those college circles run tight, which includes UCONN. With there being video evidence Bouk was back around the team after being waived and Hurley’s comments around that time, wouldn’t shock if some things weren’t said about us to upcoming draft prospects.
you guys need to pick up that kid from Serbia nickola D he [layed good at the combine 6/10
It's the off season, y'all take a little more time for yourselves. The season is a grind. I didn't think anything of it.
"You better hope Wemby wants you" lol for real
Complete non issue. Nothing to see here....
Knecht and edey are both under rated.
The dual point guard with luka and kyrie seems to be working out pretty well. But it’s this simple……. If castle doesn’t want to play for the hornets, then do not draft him.
His name is stephon should say it all
The center who has dominated college ball for the last 2-3 years is in this draft y'all.
We need to draft Cody Williams
Mark Williams and Nick Richard’s?
Ron Holland is the best fit for Charlotte Hornests. He has great potentials.
Unless we can flip Castle to another team that wouldn’t have otherwise been able to draft him….nah
Mitch didn't value size in the draft. Miles is a 6'6 PF, PJ is a 6'7 PF/C. They are both undersized small ball players. Then he traded away Jalen Duren on draft night. Mitch was a moron!
Andy Giselnick
I died, lol
We don’t know if they going sign or keep miles let’s see what charlotte going to do also he might sign for more money then what charlotte might give
Yes,
Let’s be honest Oklahoma starting to not know how to use all there roster
He wants to play point. So of course he’s not excited about going to the hornets.
When Walker isn't on, my ADHD kicks in and I stop listening.
Wat about the 6 foot 10 kid from Chicago n played n the g league
Tyler Smith would be a solid stretch 4 for the team. Also has defensive potential.
He's talking about Buzelis
@@averiskonsept ok, didn't know who was from Chicago, but Buzelis is the one who see as the greatest bust potential in this draft, not interested in a shooter who has shooting struggles in the g league and shies from contact. But on that note, go check out Tyler Smith.
@@VaporFox25 buzelis only 19 and has shown the ability to improve his jumper already”Improved 3PT shooting over his senior year, from 26.6% 3PT% on 3.4 3PT attempts per game over the Nike EYBL in 2022 to 42.2% 3PT% on 3.8 3PT attempts per game over the NIBC in 2022-23 “
@@prettyboynewton5957 how would you explain his regression within the GLeague? Also have you watched the mechanics of his shot? It is broken. The ball spins sideways on his release. I want the best for all draft hopefuls but when it comes to my pick I wouldn't waste it on him.
Dalton Knecht 21 ppg, 50% two's 40% three's
He a late lotto draft pick tbh 13-15
I like his heart tho hopefully HOR can.
23 years old...
No defense
@@TheHandytheman nba ready
@@papajohn7413he translates to a better defender in the nba. He had to carry the offense at TN
I really don't understand the Castle talk that much we need a solid stretch 4
He has a higher ceiling than any of the 4s in the draft besides Salaun who is 18 and a project player who might not work out. Risacher would be nice but if Castle’s shot ends up being solid of good he could be the best player in the entire class
Thank you, I don't know why people are looking to draft guards when we need a replacement for Thor and Bertans if they decide to cut em both
Castle next to ball and miller is perfect
@@bkelly625i would say 2nd best but that still is worth a top 6 pick...very iggy like
Castle is a poor, poor mans Ben Simmons. And thats saying a lot.
Just not sold on him. And weve already neen sick burned by that previous UConn draft pick. Remember Bouknight was also very bitter he was picked @11 feeling he should've gone higher.See how that turned.
Charlotte needs to do a sign and trade sending Bridges and a 2025 2nd Round Pick to Portland for Brogdon and their this year’s #14 pick. Brogdon will run the 2 and be the shooter and vet leader that is needed. With the 6th pick take the Knecht and at 14 take F Tyler Smith.
Draft Ron Holland, do a sign and trade Miles Bridges.
Knecht the Knechtor
Nikola Topic would be a great pick for the Hornets, Please no G-League players.
We have a lot of guards tho
You *CAN'T!* pass up on talent if we pass on Castle *BAD!* Organizational move💯😔
I don't get how people see Castle as a better player then Holland. Holland had 4 times where he scored over 30 points. Castle has never done that. Castle has less blks, stls and Castle has no flash to his game. Holland finish at the rim % is also better. Holland had a better season than Scoot and it seems alot of analysts keeps sending us question mark players. I don't even see alex sarr shhowed anything special with only avg 9 points and 4 rebounds as a 7 foot player. Draft the best role player in this draft that we can get. However if Ron Holland is there i would like the pick, he reminds me of Kawhi Leonard we he was playing for San Diego State. The funny thing is Holland has better numbers then Kawhi coming out of college.
I share this opinion. Ron Holland is the best fit for Hornests.
They played completely different roles. Holland was the main offensive focus on his team. Castle was the fifth offensive option on his. I'm not saying Castle is better than Holland but that is just not a good comparison
@@lloydfarmer there's the issue, teams can leave Castle because he's not a threat. Castle has a hitch at the top of his shot and his motor and athletic abilities doest stand out compare to Holland. If we only talking about defense, Holland avg 2 stls, 1 blk, 6.6 rebounds and his help side defense is very quick to the ball and his recovery is elite. Holland max vertical is also higher then Castle. Castle like you said was not the focus, so he had others to help him shield his weaknesses, knowing that you have a shot blocker and the offensive player knows not to go into the paint make it hard for me to say he is an elite one on one. But with Holland watch how if he does get beat of the dribble he recovers with a blk.
@tonydavis9472 I simply disagree. I don't think that we can say Castle is not a threat, he simply wasn't given a role to be an offensive threat throughout much of the season. However, when he was challenged to be a threat in the final four, which is a completely different competitive environment from g league ignite which play what amounts to a season full of practice games, he led his team with 21 points against Alabama and scored 15 against Purdue in the championship game---when it matters. Shoots 75% free throw. Great assist to turnover ratio. Universally regarded as a great defender.
I'm not saying that I like him more then Holland or some others, but I think much of the "he ain't got no offense" is simply inaccurate or unknown at this point.
And all Holland can consistently do at this point is drive the ball on offense. He is very limited at this stage, with star potential if his shot and creation become more consistent (very, very, very similar to......Stephon Castle).
@@lloydfarmer when did I say he doesn't have an offense. I compare him to Holland. Castle had other players and a hugh center to lob the ball to. Watching Castle play did not scream top 10 just like watching Scoot play did not scream generational talent. I agree that G league is a popular but the difference is that playing against grown men as a SF translates PG doesn't truly translate. Castle had a center that was a defensive stop, so Castle can play up on his opponents more often, however Castle did get beat but had help on the back end. Holland, motor is higher, and he was the go to guy, so he knows how to create. If Castle showed more stls, blks rebounds and assist then maybe I pick him in the top ten. But the Media alway push players to the hornets that are average and fans eat it up. Then these same fans say we always pick the wrong guy. There are 3 players I'll pick before Castle.
Charlotte has a way of wasting UConn players. Terrible organization.
You absolutely draft him, imo his stock went up. He's obviously trying to get up the draft board and has nothing to do with not wanting to come to Charlotte.
Get him here with a chip on his shoulder for the teams above him that didn't draft him and rozier got enough on ball time next to Lamelo that it shouldn't be a hard sell or even the fact we need to sell.
He's also already shown he's prepared to sacrifice to win. He's a competitor and he just wants to win
GET HIM IN!
Please stay away from Edey, hope you were joking sir
If we trade for Julius randle and draft castle or clingan this could be a very competitive team
great barbecue take Doug,none of that eastern crap
The Hornets need to sign Bismack Biombo