Who Fits BEST With Wembanyama? Spurs 24 NBA Draft Big Board | Rob Trejo Jr
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- In this episode we are going to make a Spurs Big Board ranking the top prospects in the 2024 NBA Draft by best fit with the San Antonio Spurs and building around both Victor Wembanyama and Devin Vassell.
We will rank Alex Sarr, Rob Dillingham, Donovan Clingan, Cody Williams, Saccharie Risacher, Stephon Castle, Matas Buzelis, Jakobe Walter, Dalton Knecht, Reed Sheppard, Ron Holland, Nikola Topic and more insights on combinations of players that fit the Victor Wembanyama Timeline.
Im not big on player comparisons, so dont judge too hard. However I am very confident about our big board list. Let me know your thoughts down below!
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Curious why you think Dillingham gave good defensive effort when he admitted that he was pretty bad at giving effort on the defensive end
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Zaccharie Risacher is my favorite player in the draft. Quick, long, athletic, shoots, and there is the “French Connection.”
I am not a fan of Rob Dillingham. His 165-pound weight seems to be a problem, in my opinion. Also, Dillie does not strike me as much of a defensive threat. I like Stephon Castle more. He plays DEFENSE!
If the Spurs could get Castle and Risacher, I would be delighted!
Rolland Cody Williams
Castle is slow.
@@Jamar-lg9obNot at #4 , at 8.
@@SaySpawn both pop guys at positions of need
Would be an ideal scenario. However, i doubt these guys will be available at 4 and 8.
I like Castle the most he seems like he will be an instant upgrade compared to the other players that more ppl want
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If the Spurs could get Zaccharie and Castle. That would be a perfect draft for me. Also Holland, Dilly and Matas would be on my 2nd tier of players I would be fine with as well.
Cody Williams
I think they might go Tidjane Salaun at number 8. He's a risky pick, but has a very high upside.
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I see him being like Kris Middleton. Very intriguing prospect.
Dillingham is not a Spurs player. He would never make it with Pop. He does not play both sides of the ball. I do not understand why people think Dillingham is so good. He is a horrible defender. He is also very small.
Sounds like Tony Parker to me
You must not know know Rob he is an athletic defender who creates wide fast break opportunities for his team and himself his quick court is helps him intercept passes and take it straight to the rim when get the opportunity even if he is small.
Jalen Brunson🤣
Steph curry
Dillingham can score, pass, and drive. But he is a huge defensive deficit. He would drive a Coach like Popovich nuts!
This is why you’re not in the spurs front office 😂
Yeah, I wonder how many games rob watched this year. Idk why he’d think Clingan would be who we’d want at 4 or 8. We need shooting and a PG.
Well spurs need a better option than zack collins so clingan is not à bad idea
@@jack.charlesc4750 I think there’s better options in next year’s draft no need to rush and get a big man this year. I prefer they get more talent and shooting as opposed to drafting for a need that has more bust potential and missing out on someone next year because they don’t fit in terms of needs
I'm going clingan at 4 and hopefully castle at 8.
@@Daniel-gl1oe Clingan at 4? That’s reaching
Very good analysis, Rob. There are things that I could nitpick. The emergence of Devin Carter, the PG from Providence is intriguing to me. Also, I was surprised that Tidjane Sulaun didn't get mentioned.
Thank you! I Will have some new episodes coming out next week leading up to the draft.
Sulaun got on my radar late he is a top 20 guy for sure for me. I feel he is a post lottery pick as a 2/3 year project. Has good tools just need to see if he has the IQ to cut it on this level is my only gripe.
Love your scouting
If, by some miracle, Risacher is available at 4, I would like to pick Topic at 8. Topic looks like he has a very high basketball IQ and is the best at passing in this draft by a mile. I feel like having a good shooter like Risacher would give one more option to distribute the ball; and that could make all the difference. He also has good size so he might develop his defense better than other undersized PGs 🤔
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I'm starting to like the idea of Spurs taking Castle at #4 and Clingan at #8
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I got a feeling the spurs gonna piss me off with this years draft! Watch 😫😫
Confounding board but it’s always good to see variety. Castle is my fav at 4 though
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Risacher and dillingham at 4 and 8 for offensive team
Ron Holland and Castle at 4 and 8 for defensive team
I’m curious if Kel’el Ware would pair amazing with Wemby. For a strong 4/5 combo. It might be a reach at pick 8 but the idea is tantalizing. Two super athletic shot blockers who can both shoot 3s. Kel’el Ware gives Karl Anthony towns vibes.
Get Risacher at 4,
then trade for Jonathan Isaac.
This season Wemby is often defending two or more guys at same time, he needs some help.
Isaac can defend 1 to 5,
we will play swishing defense on front court sooooo well.
Plus, we can also avoid Wemby losing stamina quickly.
Isaac is not free agent this summer
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Oh, that's my bad.
Isaac can't shoot. It won't work. They will double WEMBY every play.
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Castle said he sees himself as more of a PG, and didn’t get to show off all of his skills in college.
I like that he can play the 1 or the 3.
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@@robtrejojrnba Thanks! Appreciate the good word, Rob. :)
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I mostly agree with your player tiering but disagree with how you got there. You made an awesome point that we’re not interested in guards that arent point guards but then Stephon Castle pops in the upper echelon. Ik he wants to be a Point Guard but his game tape is that of a connective SG combo guard (not unlike the DV, Malaki, BW) Then you have a similar discussion with Matas and Cody Will where you’re saying lets not draft a project but I feel Cody is on the same tier of project that is a few years away. All that being said I’m enjoying the content Rob 😊
I dont see the weird want for wanting to move Wemby back to the 4. It would be reverting Wemby to a position where he struggled. The spacing is much better for wemby at the 5. And if you out Clingan and Sochan on the floor together, your asking to be blown out by 30 every game. 2 guys who cannot shoot. The spacing would be horrible.
He struggled there because Collins wasn't good at C and there was no PG... plus Sochan, Vassell and Keldon didn't play with him at this moment. With a real PG, a better C and a team which accepts him as the franchise player, things could be much better. The "Sochan experiment" time was a mess for everyone, even if it was useful.
@@Ebriel0000000 obviously starting Tre helped, but what really helped was him moving to center, getting Zach out of the lineup. With Zach in there, there were 2 non-shooters on the floor, him and Sochan. The spacing was horrible, teams could essentially triple wemby and jot have any bad consequences. If the spurs drafted Clingan, the same would happen, the spacing would be bad. You can't run a lineup with multiple non-shooters
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I like your color ranking, but your green players puzzle me. SA doesn’t need a guard, they need a PG. You acknowledged that in your critique of Reed Shepard who is not a PG. Of the commonly acknowledged top tier players in this draft, there are 2 PGs: Dillingham and Topic. Yet you leave Topic out of your green band, but put a SG (Castle) in the green band as a better fit for SA. I don’t get it. SA has a SG, they need a PG!
If you are picking in the top 10, you are looking for players who can step in and contribute immediately. I’m far from convinced that Cody or Zach can do this. They may have a big upside, but SA has needs today and they need players who can fill those needs now, not later.
Don’t understand why Starr is not green; he could be a monster 4 along side Wemby. But you put Clingham in green despite the experiment SA using Wemby as a 4 and not a 5. If you recall, it didn’t work. How does Clingham change that??? Also, in terms of fit, I think you have to think of putting pieces around Wemby as the 5 and that mean Clingham is yellow or red.
In terms of fit, SA needs a PG and a wing. PG means either Dillingham or Topic. Castle may be a great SG, but he does not address your need at PG. I like Reed, but he never played PG. If Dillingham is not available at 4 and SA has reservations about Topic (particularly a second injury to the same knee) then SA needs to seriously look for a vet PG.
The wing is tough because you either have a shooter with questionable defense or a defensive player who need to work on his shot. So here is the nuance your board lacks. Dillingham or Topic is likely to be there at 4 and let’s assume SA is OK with either one. If SA gets Dillingham, then drafting a wing with solid defensive and a shot that could develop is acceptable. If Topic is selected, you need a wing who can score now and has at least adequate defense and might even be good with work
There are a lot of boards that have Castle higher because of Topic having two knee injuries
@@Kenny-bj2zq Two injuries to the same knee. Definitely cause for concern, but Castle still isn’t a PG and that is what SA needs
Castle mentioned he prefers to play the point in a reason video.
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Great job,.... On this video. And this is my opinion only. Clingan would be great pickup for the Spurs , but when I watched the matchup it looked like he really hated guarding EDEY cause he couldn't handle his strength.... But both did great against each other. But what about the combine and Everytime the see each other in events... EDEY shoots better mid shots . There's and free throws... Ok ok. But what about speed ...ooh no EDEY is faster how can that be. Ok IQ , EDEY has been over looked and wants to be a gym rat...mmmm better shooter rebounder and Speed ....You can't teach 7'4 . All I have to say . EDEY is the best center in this draft bar none. Alien in the Mask 👽
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Nikola topic fits with the spurs the best i think, he has some tony parker in his game.
I mostly agree with your picks, the only guy I don't trust that much is Dillingham, I am not sure he will translate that well at the NBA level.
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I dont like the idea of moving wemby to the 4 i rather get a true pf who can strech the flor and give vassel and wemby some good spacing. Clingan is not a good fit i would take either risacher or Williams at 4 and dili or reed at 8
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Honestly, these playoffs have shown that you need athletic rangy players who shoot the 3, and could switch on defense. We have the chance to get two of those guys.
Who?
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Agree that Cody Williams is a good pick at 8 and slightly better than Knecht because of upside and most of all defensive skills. Strongly disagree that Wemby could be moved to 4. Wemby should dunk more often than shooting 3s and defensively he is a top 2 center/rim protector. If the Spurs draft Clingan it would be as a cheaper and better Zollins replacement,, that is, a backup center.
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Bro you're making all these dudes sound like future dating prospects. She's very pretty, funny, high IQ, but I just feel like the whole Religion thing would be too much of a divide for us to overcome 😩
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If Buzelis is there at 8, Spurs will take him.
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Wow, first time I have seen anyone not say Williams is three years away.....Wow!
I think everyone is this draft is a couple of years away TBH. Thanks for the perspective! I appreciate your input!
Cody Williams didn't shoot enough volume of 3's for that % to matter, even though it looks good on paper. I like him, but he's more interesting for other reasons that are more bankable.
Clingan isn't a good idea with Wemby and a downgrade from Collins. Drafting a career non starter that you can't play in the last 5 minutes #8 is a mistake.
Topic injuries are a concern as are his shooting and defense making Castle the much better option with the hopes he develops a jumper. Unless Shepherd is Curry 2.0, you can't take him. If he's 6'6, maybe. Dillingham is great if you don't mind giving Pop a stroke next fall. He's a poor man's Kyrie at best and adjusting to NBA defense will be an issue and he's not ready to defend any starter in NBA at 165 lbs. Castle still better option defensively and physically
I think you missed the playmaking opportunity from the kid from Baylor - he can do it but another good player at Baylor had that role.
Zach and Wemby as a French Connection is interesting in an inverted pick and roll. If he's available at #4. League is trending big at the point guard, which is why we lived thru "The JS Experiment" this year.
Need another good proven pro this off season somehow beyond the draft but not sure who with a team this young unless you can get the second fiddle out of Cleveland but not sure he's a spurs guy.
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@@robtrejojrnba Nikola Djurisic should be on your Radar. I'm wondering if he could also be used as a point guard with Wemby in a pick and roll. At 6-8 I'm not sure how you'd stop their unique combination provided his jumper translates to the NBA, which it seems it should. High basketball IQ with a fascinating rise after the draft combine scrimmages. I'll be curious your thoughts.
There's two all stars in every draft at a minimum. Perhaps the Spurs can find them even though the draft may not have any all pro locks
Every time I do a mock draft simulator for the Spurs, Sarr and Risacher are gone at 1&2 and the Rockets go either Clingon, Shepperd or Castle, which always leaves me to take mostly Buzelis at #4 then Castle or Topic and which ever way 5,6&7 plays out, #8 mostly Salaun then Holland or Williams. I just can't see the Spurs taking Dillingham at all, at 6"1 165lbs. He just too small and a defensive liability at his size and getting to the rim and lob game is just not in his game. I say the Spurs gamble on two big wings in Buzelis and Salaun and wait next year for our point guard of the future in Nolan Traore or Dylan Harper or Hugo Gonzalez. We have 4 potential 1st round picks in 2025 and can trade up for any of these points guards who the Spurs may love. Unless the Spurs see Castle or Topic as their point guard of the future, I just don't see the need for a point guard yet. TP didn't come to Duncan right away and I think the talent at guard in 2025 is way better than this year.
Great comparison on Topic and Nando de Colo
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Reed shepherd has one of the highest athleticism scores in the combine. Not a bad ranking though.
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Some of your comps are bad. Williams has no game similar to Giannis. Shepherd is a SF trapped in a PG body. Ron Holland cannot shoot worth a lick and should be compared to Bruce Bowen. Dillingham could be a Brunson if he had a consistent jumper.
This drafting for need mentality is for contenders only, if at all. Drafting for need when you have Clyde Drexler in 1984 gets you Sam Bowie instead of Michael Jordan. drafting for shooters in 2011 gets you anything but Kawhi.
B-P-A, all day, every day, twice on draft day.
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Respectfully I don't agree with Clingan, he is slow, he doesn't open the field and Wemby has looked better as a center, I wouldn't spend a lottery pick for a Walker Kessler prototype. I think that what Wemby needs most are shooters and this season they didn't have any.
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We need a player that is good at more than just scoring, we have scorers but we lack great passers and players with court vision , we also need some guards that play great defense, to give wemby a break
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Look, the Spurs can get Isiah Hartinstien and Bol Bol in free agency. If you recognize skillset, athletic ability and length as well as affordability they would be a GREAT fit.
In terms of the draft I'd pick a 6'8-6'10 SF/SG with the #4 pick with very good 3pt range and athleticism. I'd trade the #8 pick along with 3 young players a 2nd rounder and the lesser of the 2025 1st pick for Chicago s #11 and Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso.
The team then becomes potentially an elite defensive team
Eddy is the 2nd best center in the draft! Look at his work and combine results. Just sayin
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Dillingham should be available at 8. All of the teams drafting ahead of 8 don't need a point guard as their first fill (Atl, Wsh, Hou, Det, Cha, Por.....unless trades happen.
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Dillingham likely would be available at #12 or #13.
Dont listen to the negative comments. Everyone has their own opinions, whether it's good or not. I can agree with about 70% of the video, so overall good video.
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Bro, Wemby is Better at 5 with Spacing around him. I am ok fot a good Back up Center and some wemby's minute at PF...But no more...So dont pick Clingan...Pick Wings !
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I was sold more on Risacher than Castle but I'm warming up to the idea of it. Castle has a ton of tools, but he wants to be be a PG. Cody Williams is a project, plenty of upside, but when/how will he develop for SA? I'm not to keen on clogging the paint with a big paired next to Wemby. But we do need a long term legit backup big at very least. Dillingham is one I would look at. His PnR with Wemby would decimate opposing teams. Dillingham's Def. needs to get better. Risasher is less of a project than Cody Williams, but he'll have to build one more big feature to be truly effective (i.e. rebounder, clutch performer, great help defender, etc.)
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I have the same first 2 guys on my board. Then cody.
If zacchaire is there at 4 draft him then rob at 8. If he’s not draft rob then Cody
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Dillingham is 160 lbs soaking wet..nope
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I highly disagree with 3 and 4, point guard/small forward should be a priority and Cody Williams is a bust who needs to fall to OKC at 12
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Timberwolves are proving that multiple bigs can work! They should pick up edey, or Clingan, grab a wing stopper, probably castle. And trade for a point guard, I like the idea of having the Jones brothers together.
That won't work because of floor spacing, you would be removing WEMBY from the basket area guarding stretch 4's. It won't work.
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I see Topic similar to Beno Udrich...
Thank you for saying what I have been seeing in Topic. He is not the right guy at least not right now. A little too slow and unathletic for a starting PG in the NBA
Come on, Wemby did it most effectively at 5, OBVIOUSLY. If you'd watched the first few games this season, he struggled at 4. So please DON'T take another 7-foot guy next to him, alright? Besides, there's Zach Collins already, i don't think it's necessary to select a back-up center with lottery picks...
He struggled at 4 because the 5 was bad and the PG wasn't a PG. Plus Vassell, Keldon and Sochan didn't want to play with him, giving only late or rotten balls. Wemby had just begun in NBA : the rules, the 3 pts line, the ground were different from what he knew before and he needed time to adjust. Everything we saw during the 30 first games of the season is meaningless. Wemby could play with another tower like Duncan did with Robinson.
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What about pick Risacher at 4 and Cody Williams at 8 if is possible ??Wings are so important to play 3/4 and defend all position.
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Umm, Dillingham is NOT 6’3. Combine measurements he is 6’1 164 lbs. Good luck when he gets switched on Luka. Your list was great until this selection smh
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Nr.4 to the spurs is Matas Buzelis
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I have no idea why you think SGA is a good comp for Stephon Castle lol. He so far from being a consistent scorer and three point shooter. He’s closer to a poor man’s Jimmy Butler, since his offensive game is raw and his defense is stout and definitely translatable, making his floor high.
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Really, Against the best in the West? Wow...Could not disagree more.
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This is great analysis👍🏿
Now you are crazy......RD is short and cannot play D. The last thing they need. No promise he will make with the big boys.. He against Donic?
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Bro you can’t say Cody Williams has the potential to be Giannis in transition are u nuts 😂. IF that was his potential then he would be going number 1 without question
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@@robtrejojrnba sorry if that was aggressive I do like Cody but obviously not as high as u on the potential. I for sure want him at 8 if he’s there as he can be a good off the bench guy, clearly needs to improve on his shooting but his length is enticing as a perimeter defender who can push for a starting spot eventually
Maaaaaaan I'm excited. This is what we need to become immediate champions!...
#4 Zach Edey
#8 Stephon Castle (size, athleticism, shooting, & defense!) or Topic (size, passing, and pace)
And/or should pick up Dalano Banton (size, athleticism, shooting, & defense!) as backup pg and we'd be great because of how much promise he showed with petals Portland this season.
Also, should trade Keldon for a 3&D guy like Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, DeAndre Hunter. Or even to get Dejonte Murray back!!!
Think about these lineups (with shoes on)...
5 - Zach Edey 7'5
4 - Wembyama 7'6
3 - Keldon Johnson 6'6 / Herb Jones 6'9
2 - Devin Vassel 6'7
1- Stephon Castle 6'7 / Nikola Topic 6'6 / Dejonte Murray 6'7
6 - Dalano Banton 6'9 (backup pg)
Would literally have the tallest team in history and would cause havoc on perimeter and interior!!! We need this ‼️
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Good general board
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The Spurs don't need a center. Wembys defense and offense shot up when he moved to the 5. Ge is the leagues best rim protector now. I'd be shocked if the Spurs drafter a center in the lottery, when what they need is a backup center, because Collins ain't it.
They need a center, not necessarily a starter center.
@Ebriel0000000 a backup center doesn't warrant a lottery pick. They can address that in the 2nd round or signing a vet.
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Cody Williams And trade for d Murray back
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I all in 4th for stephon castle, because he not gona pass hornets at 6th.
All in ucon 4th castle and 8th clingon.
Pg castle
Sg devin
Sf wemby
Pf sochan
C clingan
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Castle fit Spurs!! Ya!
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Dilly’s comps are WILD… hes not close to their ht and wt. He’s more IT2 and Lou Willam’s ..
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Castle and Sochan cannot start together unless you wanna be blown off the floor 😂
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Cody Williams is not a "sharpshooter"
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I wanna get Risacher or Matas Buzelis at 4 and Castle, Cody Williams or Tidjane Salaun with the 8.
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Cody Williams hype!!!
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Collier or Castle
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Topic..
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I think Clingan wouldn’t fit with Wemby offensively, so I wouldn’t draft him. I think we have bigger needs at pg and wing and plenty of options there, as you listed. I’m curious about Castle. He seems to think he could be a pg, and while shooting isn’t his strength I like the idea of another plus defender.
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I like the idea of Clingan and having a new version of the twin towers. I just don't know if he would be a liability on defense in the NBA. It would be great to have a score first point guard but with a generational talent with Wemby, I think he needs to be the primary source of our offense and everyone else just work out from him. We need that facilitator that can get Wemby the ball. I think Castle or Topic would fit that pretty well. I've been reading some things that say Risacher is more of a catch and shoot type guy which doesn't scare me if he can play defense. If I was in the front office I'd go with a Risacher at 4 and then if a Topic or Castle was at 8 one of them. Dillingham would get Spurs fans excited but he's so small and look at who is left in the West this year. Who could he guard? Great video loved your ideas. Keep it up
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I like risacher but he's likely gone before 4
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If u are paying attention to the western conference playoffs Clingan is the pick at 4
Edey is better...
Without a doubt
The Spurs want to run and gun. Clingan can’t get up and down the court quickly enough.
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Wemby is a 5. Clingan is too slow in drop coverage just like Edy. It won't work.
Athletic limitations lmao reed has a 42 inch vert research before you pop up a vid
It’s understood he has athleticism he is pretty jacked too. However he is 6’3 with about a 6’3 wingspan. Only 8 other players had shorter wingspans at the combine. He has bounce he is strong no doubt. But in the NBA it’s tough to be able to compete with those measurements when u have 6’5 pgs with 6’8-9 wingspans. You really have to be an exceptional basketball player, which he is, to have a long nba career.
Now for all I know he is still going to grow out on a few inches on his wingspan. I just believe that in the Brian Wright era, physical stuff like that matters.
I love him as a player tho no doubt.
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Dalton tested off the charts at the combine athletically
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This doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He needs to stop doing Spurs content. Stephon Castle is a better fit than Rob Dillingham. Spurs value defense, not undersized, shoot first guards.
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Just for a second think about them getting edy and putting we by at the 4 holy hell
Edey is the steal of this draft!!
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I don't think you watch college basketball.
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DC is slow!
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Zach Edey blew it up at combine,best big in the draft,take him at 8!!!! Mark my words,you'll wish u did later!!
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This by far your worse video 😂
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Best big is Eddy by far imagine a twin towers only bigger ppl would not score on us then best avail at 8
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Clingan!!! We need a tree. The bigs own us on the glass. OKC vs Dallas was VERY telling in this regard too. OKC was bodied. Clingan #4 bc he is the most unique and fits a nerd. Then best pg at 8
Great point. OKC did get bodied. Plus Minnesota and Denver have a lot of size. I'm a little worried about how Wemby would adjust to going back to PF but I think he's so talented he could make it work.
Zach Edey is bigger, faster, longer, shoots better and is simply the more skilled player, some of which he showed during his college career and the rest at the 2024 NBA combine.
Draft him!
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Why don’t any of these guys ever invite guests that actually know a thing or two instead of just running their ignorant mouths into a camera?
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Stephon Castle top 3, are you out of your mind??
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best fit for the championship san antonio spurs is donovan clingan
Zach Edey is bigger, faster, longer, shoots better and is simply the more skilled player!
Could be a Jokic stopper.
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Except for the fact that Clingan can’t run.