REVIEW: Vevor MIG-270 3-in-1 Welder (Then I Gave It To a Student)
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- It MIGs, TIGs, and Sticks, but is it any good? Is it worth it? I'll play with it and see what it does! (Update: Whip uses a "euro" style connection)
Welder was given to a student heading into the welding program at the college.
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0:24 Unboxing
3:13 Looking inside
4:21 TESTING: Flux-Core Wire-Feed 110V
9:08 TESTING: MIG 110V 0.023" wire
10:28 TESTING: MIG 220V 0.023" wire
13:20 TESTING: MIG 220V 0.035" wire
14:28 TESTING: TIG 220V
19:37 TESTING: STICK 110V 1/8" rod
20:34 TESTING: STICK 220V 1/8" rod
21:36 Conclusion
Interested?
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A BIG BLACK EYE FOR HARBOR FREIGHT
I have a Harbor freight TITANIUM FLUX 125 WELDER purchased from Harbor Freight a couple years ago. I am a retired plumbing contractor and backyard hobbyist. I love to build things in my spare time and help friends and neighbors that need something repaired. When I retired and closed my business, I had a stick welding machine but had no convenient place to connect it at my home! It would require an upgrade to my electrical service not worth the trouble and expense! When I saw a couple reviews on CZcams for this Titanium 125 welder, I thought that would be the way to go. I already had a 110 Volt 30 Amp circuit to my workshop!
It took me a while to get adjusted to the flux wire welding. I built a minibike from scrap pipe I had left over from the plumbing shop. The welder allowed me to make other things and make repairs for others I wouldn’t be able to do without it.
In the middle of my last project, I cut a couple pieces of metal and got ready to weld them and when I pushed the button on the welder, nothing happened! It was dead! The fan did not come on but the light on the ON/OFF indicated there was power to the welder. I checked the manual for a reset button or a fuse and found no mention of either.
So, I called the Harbor Freight 800 number and was told there was no repair for this welder. Harbor Freight has no repair facility, and no support is available. I was told by two different tech reps there is no schematics or parts list available from the factory where this is manufactured. “It is not worth getting it repaired and cheaper to go purchase a new one!” If you purchase this welder or many other things from Harbor Freight You only have 3 Months Warranty. It is considered disposable after that!
All the reviews and discussion I have read about HARBOR FREIGHT I have never seen anything about their total lack of support for their products! I didn’t even get an “I’m sorry” or any offer for a discount on a new welding machine!
I am retired, was an electronics technician in the Navy, active Ham Radio operator and electronics hobbyist. I feel like the electronics in this welding machine is straight forward non computer controlled and any decent electronics tech should be able to repair this given reasonable support. I removed the circuit board from the welder and found where a small component burned of course not knowing the component value or purpose will make it difficult to replace. Providing a schematic and parts list is a very inexpensive form of support that should be a minimum requirement. Their claim to revenue of 7 Billion Dollars tells me they could afford it!
Leland Cox
Don’t understand how you can’t like stick welding. I love it. It’s not sensitive to wind, it can reach in tight spots, and you can easily change consumables for different metals.
I know it has its advantages and has its place. And I tell the kiddies that stick can do things that other types of welding can't, and that in heavy industry and outdoors it's pretty much all stick. I just don't enjoy it.
I have a VEVOR fluidized hopper, powder coating setup that I have yet to use due to having my left shoulder joint replaced recently. The price was about 10%-20% of a GEMA and only twice that of Eastwood. This welder seems quite capable for what it is. I'm actually impressed with VEVOR so far. BTW, I'm a retired Industrial Design Engineer and currently a fabricator/painter/powder coater. New shop and equipment about 80% complete when shoulder gave out. 6-9 months of recovery to go!👍
Just got mine today and laughed just as hard when I saw the glasses.😂
Excellent tutorial you explained everything really well. I am a flux core welder..lol (grinder) and looking to get a 220 gas welder. I think this will be the one. Thanks
Cheap or not it is clean crisp and steady. All you need to stick two pieces of metal together.
Well after watching your video I ordered one of these. Very informative and honest review. When I get it operational and If I can't weld like you, I'm telling mom.....LOL
For lift tig when you are gonna stop snap out fast but keep your torch close for post flow. No reason to run away. Hard on the tungsten pulling away that hard to even with the gas on because it allows oxygen in. Looks good just don’t overthink it. I have ran quite a few hours lift arc but mostly foot pedal control. Can’t beat high frequency start !
Thanks for the video
They offered it to you? That's awesome, man! I've had the same thing happen, but it's been kitchen stuff. lol
my smaller welder from harbor freight wont even weld 1/8 very well with .o25 weld wire. I have that one too it welds better with .023 than my harbor freight titanium. I hate switching wire and mostly do sheet metal. I have this welder too and it welds much better than the HF titanium especially on thick 1/4 metal.
The Mig gun nozzle looks similar other Chinese welders I find difficulty to lose or adjust it
101% rating on your review!
(Vevor MIG-270, 3 in 1). I purchased this a little over a year ago. I have used it maybe 5 to 6 times. I have never done anything more than mig welding, and have truly never put it through the paces. Actually nothing more than ga. sheet metal. After about 5 to 6 uses, and just tacking my floor pan into my classic car, (20 ga.) it just shut off. Of course I checked the breaker, the fuse...etc. I went over and turned the switch off. Let it sit for about 5 minutes. Turned it back on, it turned on, up until I struck an arc. Shut off again, and now will not turn on at all. Trying to find a possible new power supply, but to no avail I'm not finding it. Fairly disappointed in the longevity of this welder. Of course it's passed warranty, so I'm pretty screwed, and out $279
If you're willing to open it up, check the connections of the power cord into the machine, the continuity of the power cord to the plug, and the continuity of the switch itself. If there's an easy fix, that will be it. Beyond that, I don't know. Don't touch the capacitors. Best of luck.
My main concern with the machine would be location of storage none of the boards are potted meaning moisture would quickly ruin them if you have temp controlled work shop might be less of an issue
Fair enough. Think I'll save up for a Miller.
With stick higher voltage "arc blow" is critical you can run lower amps more stable with higher voltage
that is good penetration for a 270 A inverter. 1/8 inch full penetration is about all you get. to do more than that you need to muliti pass
You are likely getting half the indicated power on 110 as opposed to 220. This would explain the stick issue and probably should be in the manual but manuals are VEVOR's biggest drawback from what I've seen.
Looks like burnback is at 10, should be lower like 1-2 and the will help with the .023. Great vid
3:40 "Most of the components in here seem to be chinese components..." Sadly or luckily, mostly everything around us is chinese "components". 😆 Thank you for this in depth review.
Try using c-8 gas with. 035 and will bet it'll do 1/2" material pretty well
Following my dreams!
I notice you started the video using MIG using one polarity and then changed later in the video when still MIG welding. What is this? Was one backward? The manual is less.than helpful.
With gas, electrode positive. With flux, electrode negative.
Is there a good setup chart recommendation or available for this welder?
The welder did not come with one; you'd have to play with it and figure one out that works for the way you like to weld.
If you need parts for the euro style mig gun send a pic to htp and they will fix you up. Even if you need a new torch.
In Canada where you dont have harbor freight tools it is a great option. and honestly that welder rips all over the Titanium anyway. I have them both.
@Mike Fn Garage
I like your comment since I bought this welder couple.of weeks ago. Didn't have time to use it yet, but it will get its share for sure!
Princess Tools is similar to HF
@@akbychoice OH cool I will check them out next time I am up there. Are they in Toronto GTA area?
@@akbychoice Hey another thing to think about is the Canadian content law. A lot of your stuff is much higher priced because the Government requires Canadian first. once they see there are no other options they will allow a company to sell from outside source. So it makes Canadian companies RICH.....If they have little or no competition. Not very good for exports either. because they have an unfair price advantage. This is why target stores failed. they didnt know how to play the game. Walmart did and they just said....No we wont carry your product unless you give it to us for xxx price and held their guns. Big company more power and money. This law seems like it would be good for Canada but it creates corruption and price fixing. Does nothing for jobs. Makes fat cat business owners RICH....
@@akbychoice It's Princess Auto, not Princess Tools. :)
I'm wondering how well these Vevor 270's are holding up? Has anyone out there have longer term experience? Any warranty claims?
I bought a Vevor mig-250 3 in 1 duel voltage. Used the flux core and the Arc functions, works well so far. About 20 minutes of welding, instructions are sad!!
I got the 250 3 in one also its really good for everything I have used it for so far but it's still fairly new to me I'll keep you posted on how it holds up
Is it worth the money
Rookie question... never weld before and i always wonder.. do you clamp the positive to the metal youre going to weld? Or can it be any good ground? Like i said never weld before
Clamp as close as you can to where you are welding.
Weld shops didn't know what a euro plug was??? Its the most common plug you will find on amazon. I actually prefer them because they are all the same and you can easily wire the trigger to fit your specific machine's plug. I bought a 25' off amazon.
I thought it used to be named binzel
Review a Canaweld Machine if you can sometime...... Thx
I read on some threads from the EU that in England this machine was rejected at the port because the fuse had a jumper wire on it. I didn't see when you was inside the box.
I've bought one of these in the UK and confirm the fuse has a jumper wire across it. But that doesn't seem to have stopped them being imported!
what does that mean? fuse is no good? dangerous? english isn't my native language.
You might want to look at this.. - www.gov.uk/product-safety-alerts-reports-recalls/product-safety-report-vevor-welding-machine-mig-200d3-2203-0470
Not to be a jerk but i notice your right hand shakes some just wondering does that affect your welding? Just curios i have some numbness issues with my one arm im just curios.
"Essential Tremors" runs in the family - I was hoping to dodge that bullet but it seems I will not. It does make welding more of a challenge; I cannot maintain the precision that I used to - and it's when I am concentrating, when I _need_ my hands, that I shake more.
@@GregWellwood im sorry to hear that. You keep doing what your doing,you make very information vids fun to watch.
Thanks!
You must live a sheltered life, the Mig whip is Euro style. I bought one and it's great, the only question is how long will it last.
Absolutely! As do the guys at the welding shops where I took the whip. I'm so sheltered I haven't actually left this shop in 16 years. Same clothes. Could use a shower, I think.
It's hydrochloric HCL "Muriatic" or sulfuric "Battery acid" or drain cleaner.
All welding machines do not have a ground or some call it a earth. The term which I think is the correct term to me is welding return lead .one tip when mig welding and the filler wire jams in the contact tip due to the tip getting overheated use the next size up tip . Could go on but it would bore tits of your subscribers , am a Old old school welder from the UK. PS you Nealy got the mig on spray transfer..
Red button absence, on your other welder ~ Why can’t you advance the wire with the gas off ?
He just needs to close the bottle but hes too lazy so he wastes gas
@@jakemustian99
I thought there might have been another reason- 👍
I'm not too lazy to turn off the gas; I am exceedingly cheap. I'm irritated that I have to close the tank. I WANT to be lazy. I want a "lazy button."
@@GregWellwood appologies. I do have this welder and the lazy button is nice. Did you figure on how to rig one up?
I have not looked into it yet for my Lincoln, but I'm sure it's not rocket surgery (grin).
I got mine on sale directly from vevor $250 us. 333 cad
My 2 bits ... always look at the used market before splashing cash on new chinesium.
I could not find any used good machines for that price or even a bit more. also the old ones do wear out I have a Century (lincoln) that does not weld near as good as my Vevor.
Abicor-Benzel mig gun
I had this welder and it seemed to work pretty good but was not 270 amp as they said. I question them on and they gave me return with full refund. It is a 220 amp and it says so on the back label. They said the 270 was the model number not the amps. I got the HBM2280 and it seems to weld better for the price. HBM2280 didn't come with tig wand but has digital display and spool gun capability and inductance settings. Either is good. HBM2280 is 200amp+ . Heres a video czcams.com/video/QJIWM8J3Vpo/video.html
The industery call mig pliers Welpers
No duty cycle time
yea but for 259 not bad. I am using one and they work great. Much better than the 140 HF titanium.
60%
@@wansolve289 I will never hit that either. good for automotive work at home not a good welder for commercial use. I think most people know that.
@Mike Fn Garage, oh. Agree. I think 60% is awesome. I’ve got a Harbor Freight 270 amp mig welder rated at 20%, and I’ve only ever hit that once.
@@wansolve289 Yea that is at full power....like am I going to do that for any length of time. The harbor freigh has gone way up in price. So when Vevor offered me one to try I said.....Sure. Have the HF mig 140....and I am giving it to a freind and keeping the Vevor.
I bought 130 for 117 USA dollars . I taken 80 hours welding in past want play more .
Really? You don't like stick?
I get that MIG and flux-core are way easier, and TIG can give you pretty results, but stick just plain works and it also looks badass.
Like, there's nothing to hate about stick, it's simple and it works.
I also don't like camping, fishing, athletics, pencils, odd numbers, brussel sprouts, cake, raisins, polyester, shirt tags, sanding, and Christmas. Not necessarily in that order.
And feet. I hate feet the worst.
@@GregWellwood Yeah, I'm not keen on Christmas either. The brussel sprouts, I can live with.
Start off the filler rod touching parent metal
I would urge anyone contemplating buying anything from this company to just do a search on the reviews, wish I did. I bought this welder and it's not about the product it's about the customer support should you need it (and buying cheaper products there is always a chance you'll need it). Read the reviews and you will see what I mean. It was without doubt the worst customer experience in my entire life. They may have refund and warranty policies listed on their web site but they certainly don't honour any of them. Don't make the same mistake I and many other people made.
Certainly something to be aware of. I always recommend researching a company's reviews to help inform your decision. Often, with things really cheap, there is a risk with "when things go wrong" that you may not be able to find recourse. If I'm spending a LOT of money, I buy from reputable companies with a proven track record. If it's really cheap, I accept a certain amount of risk. But yeah, good points!
I agree! I purchased the orange version of this welder. After half a dozen uses it blew up (literally....huge explosion of sparks from the internals when I pulled the trigger to start welding). It took nearly a month of back and forth with their customer service to get them to finally agree to send me a replacement unit. When the unit works, it works great. When it fails....good luck getting the issue resolved!
lots of through hole on the pcbs
Old school is stick.
Only buy from this "company" something that you can easily throw away afterwards. Because they refuse to tell me where to return the defective product after 2 weeks. Send me a video of the error - I sent it. To this again and again - Send me a video of the error, I reply that I sent it - and so I cannot return the defective machine. Never again anything from Vevor!
Absolutely! I bought a flex hose from them a year ago. Wanted to get another one. Nope, they have no record of the purchase and I can't even buy any hose anymore. They're all high price items now. The link to that stick welder, now, takes you to a welder for $250. What happened to $79 bucks. They've turned the corner. Don't bother with them.
It had to happen. It was too good to be true.
Hmmm, how can you review something that you just opened, got for free, and have barely used? I know you’re just showing us the welder, but these companies are just wasting people’s time. Also, inverters actually have more crap inside because transformer machines are usually just two transformers, a shunt, and a diode bridge if it’s AC and DC, and obviously the wiring to connect those components.
I have no words
Well bloke who got one last year and uses it on building canal boats daily says he's fairly impressed he's had to replace a couple things like the mig gun isn't rated for 220amp the earth cable clap the connection to the wire melted off but he's really impressed for the price he had a more expensive one and he said comparing it to that with price in mind it blows it out the water for now and has paid for itself multiple times 🤷 so yes good for hobbyist but wouldn't say it rtr for a full time welder 🤷 I'm awaiting mine to be delivered this week after mig me dad's had for over 20years.. just can't get a constant seam it looks good but when grind it down there air pockets 🤦🤦🤣😂
When he takes half the video to bother ising .023 roller not meant for this welder time to move on.
you guys got stop buying junks son.
I am sick of watching people open boxes.
The video doesn't end there.
I'm wondering how well these Vevor 270's are holding up? Has anyone out there have longer term experience? Any warranty claims?
I've had the 250 version for two years. I've burned about 20 lbs of wire with no issues.
I've had my vevor mig 270 less than a year and burned less than a roll of wire in it and already had issues with the welder. I noticed one day the control panel screens flashing off and on while trying to weld and the arc was going out, turned out to be break in the power plug somewhere with no visible issues (found no continuity with my multimeter on one wire).
Next issue was I didn't use the tig welder for about 2 months while buying a gas bottle, when I finally got my bottle I instantly found a gas leak inside the tig torch and the hose kept popping off the hose barb so I had to wire tie it on which there is barely room to do. I contacted vevor and their solution was I purchase a new tig torch and they will discount me 25%, I complained and they said best they can do is 60%, I shouldnt have to buy new parts because their crap is faulty.