Bad Gear - Roland GAIA SH-01

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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland GAIA SH-01. This slightly dated synthesizer keyboard and home studio centerpiece is still available new. Is it virtual analog or are we dealing with a case of oscillator scam? Is it nothing but a plastic rompler?
    Thanks to Klangfarbe for letting me use their dusty floor model;)
    www.klangfarbe.com/
    / klangfarbew. .
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro tune
    00:57 Overview Roland GAIA SH-01
    04:52 Is it a scam???
    05:41 Hate
    06:02 Jam 1
    06:56 Jam 2
    07:54 Finale
    08:28 Verdict
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  • @AudioPilz
    @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +65

    Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
    Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz

    • @vvvictoriav5958
      @vvvictoriav5958 Před 2 lety

      the dnb supersaw jam is a belter!

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 Před 2 lety

      Jackson Pollocks -- is that Cockney Rhyming Slang?!

    • @jupitermarx
      @jupitermarx Před 2 lety +3

      I know one thing for sure! If nothing else it's a fantastic training and learning tool! Learning simple subtractive synthesis!;) can't beat it for it's price and availability

  • @myNoiseDotNet
    @myNoiseDotNet Před 2 lety +802

    Former Gaia factory sound designer here. Yes, being sample-based was an information that couldn't be disclosed... for 10 years. I can now confirm ;-)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +150

      Thank you for the clarification!!! Great to have you around!

    • @dancingmandy4208
      @dancingmandy4208 Před 2 lety +225

      Former Roland PR Manager here -- BRO!!! Seriously??!! 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +129

      @@dancingmandy4208 maybe we should all get a drink together;)

    • @GuyGamer1
      @GuyGamer1 Před 2 lety +30

      hey, mynoise! crazy to see you here. Longtime subscriber to your website. You help me sleep every night.

    • @dancingmandy4208
      @dancingmandy4208 Před 2 lety +28

      @@AudioPilz 😂 lol well I definitely need a drink that’s for sure.

  • @Rompler_Rocco
    @Rompler_Rocco Před 2 lety +207

    That we only just reached GAIA today is a reassuring testament to how many disappointing synthesizers are left for Florian to dominate 😌👍

  • @sheffielddave4117
    @sheffielddave4117 Před 2 lety +89

    Show: *is called Bad Gear and is about gear most synth geeks probably wouldn't want*
    The host: *casually demonstrates the gear and its capabilities beautifully and makes me personally want to buy the aforementioned gear*
    Great job as usual,Florian! You did it again! Now I want a Roland GAIA on my computer desk!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +7

      Thank you so much!

    • @ventoilin5938
      @ventoilin5938 Před 2 lety

      welp I thought the same and then I bought the MPC 500 and now I can't get rid of it 😂

    • @zzzwy777
      @zzzwy777 Před 2 lety +1

      no the instrument still sucks lol

    • @noth606
      @noth606 Před rokem +1

      I have one, I rather like it. It can be made to sound great, but it took some fiddling around before I got out something that didn't sound in some way wrong. I use the input on it to link in 3 chained pocket operators. I got my Gaia used, I wouldn't pay 600+ for it, but 400 will get you a totally pristine one, less if you are lucky.

    • @auntjenifer7774
      @auntjenifer7774 Před rokem

      I like all the synths that are on this show, especially the ones that I have.

  • @BigBadWolf..............
    @BigBadWolf.............. Před 2 lety +42

    Imagine if all the boutiques had been in this case/layout for $799.
    Roland nailed the layout of this keyboard. The sound was what let it down.
    They nailed the sound of the boutiques. The layout is what lets them down.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +6

      I'd buy that in a heartbeat!!!

    • @m23u23
      @m23u23 Před rokem +5

      I was just wondering this too, why is this so hard to do? A smaller Juno/Jupiter replica that isn't 2k... There's a huge market there they're just ignoring

  • @gandolphcarter
    @gandolphcarter Před 2 lety +14

    My first synth, learned all the essentials with it. It's the most intuitive synth I've ever used for patch sculpting and for that it will always have a special place in my heart and I will never sell it.

  • @Lania37
    @Lania37 Před 2 lety +18

    So many people don't like this synth... I don't care about that! This thing is one of my favorite synths! It's the one I always turn on in my (home) studio. There is a sound designer software available. It runs fine on Windows but is completely unknown for Mac OS newer than Mavericks...
    Thank you for your review! I asked for it some time ago and you did it! Nicely done!
    👍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +5

      Didn't know about the software, thanks for posting!

    • @Niko-ds6wi
      @Niko-ds6wi Před 2 lety

      @@AudioPilz Yes, you can buy for a certain amount. this adds you a number of virtual instruments and reveals some of the instruments only available with it

    • @Niko-ds6wi
      @Niko-ds6wi Před 2 lety +1

      People who don't know how to play don't like it. to be honest, at first I didn’t underestimate it myself and I wanted to sell it all the time, but I realized that this is an excellent synthesizer for solos

    • @Mind_Idiot
      @Mind_Idiot Před rokem

      Apparently Roland said they're out of the SOUND DESIGNER CDs and can't rip them because of the copy protection :(

  • @ScottsSynthStuff
    @ScottsSynthStuff Před 2 lety +41

    I have one of these. It's my go-to live synth. It can do organs, EP's, and decent synth/string sounds, as well as some good cut-through-the-mix leads. You could even use its horrible sampled piano in an emergency. It's small, light and easy to carry, and it has full-size keys, so it's actually playable. I've even used its sounds in a recording before. The worst thing about it is the preponderance of multi-function shift keys (some of them are double shift keys - three button presses) in order to change settings, because there is no menu system. None of those shift key functions are labelled, so they have to be memorized - or create a cheat sheet, which is what I did.
    I couldn't care less about the fact that it creates sounds from samples rather than true modeling. I care more about the sound that comes out of it, and the user interface. If it utilized a frying bacon-powered sound engine inside and still sounded good, then that's perfectly OK with me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +9

      Frying bacon-powered sound engine??? I'm in!!!

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff Před 2 lety +3

      @@AudioPilz I expect to see it on next week's show :)

    • @dg1178
      @dg1178 Před 2 lety +3

      I got one years ago as the keys player in a band for the same reasons. It seems versatile (piano, organ, strings, etc.) and has full-sized keys, so it already ticks a lot boxes there. I eventually had to get rid of it because of its atrocious sound though. It is one of the worst sounding synths I've ever heard. It sounds like all of the sounds go through a "fake" filter before the main output. I thought I would end up liking that unique aspect of it, but I just couldn't take it anymore.

    • @saheltaja
      @saheltaja Před 2 lety +1

      Frying bacon does sound warm and greasy though.
      …I’ll get me coat…

    • @yes0genesis
      @yes0genesis Před 2 lety +3

      Saw your video today about the top 10 synths for beginners. I'm pretty high on the gaia also. Is it the greatest sounding synth on the planet? No. But it is far from as bad as others make it seem. I think it sounds good enough, the interface great with no menu diving, and the 3 independent synth engines very useful. If it's any area the gaia shines imo it's in creating very lush and epic pad sounds.

  • @djlocodoc
    @djlocodoc Před 2 lety +64

    Got My Gaia for $100 used...never regretted it once. It is a great synth and easy to use. Roland released a TON of presets for this and its bang for the buck is really good. Is anything ever dated in the synth world? Sounds always come around again in different genres. I love this little synth and I often pair it with my microkorg for synth wave .Nonetheless, great show as always sir!!! No better way to start the weekend, Bad Gear for Life!!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +16

      That's a great price! Thanks! We live for Bad Gear!!!

    • @Jobotubular
      @Jobotubular Před 2 lety +10

      I don't think anyone would disagree that it (or anything else) was a bargain at 1/7th the retail price.

    • @haze_productions9715
      @haze_productions9715 Před 2 lety +4

      For under 150 secondhand, I think that's a good price for this. You even get a D-Beam!

    • @Empirism
      @Empirism Před 2 lety +2

      Same here, womens cost more money than this thing, absolutely good sounding synth and always can use it in compositions, to what role? you name it!

    • @Empirism
      @Empirism Před 2 lety

      @ghost mall Just to make things to perspective xD

  • @indirektdjs
    @indirektdjs Před 2 lety +15

    Nailed it again! Great review. As an unapologetic GAIA owner I agree on all points - one thing I would add: The GAIA is near perfect for live gigs where you just need a right hand solo or something lightweight to stand in for your big heavy preferred brass/bass gear. The main reason I got it was to have something inexpensive to use in the club where spills are common. Far easier than lugging a full workstation synth and very playable compared to a microkorg/mininova.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks! Given my tiny hands I would have opted for the Microkorg;)

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, excellent point from a real live musician:you don't wanna use your best expensive gear in a beer filled environment...

    • @brianwolle2509
      @brianwolle2509 Před 2 lety

      mininova is CHEAPER as you know and a fantastic little synth but shorter and smaller keyboard.

  • @keyboardtek
    @keyboardtek Před 2 lety +4

    I was a keyboard tech for 36 years and played a ton of keyboards. I bought one of these just to have a compact synth with an analog feel, meaning all the sliders and pots to play with. The concept for this is to emulate a dual layer Juno 106 with a third sub oscillator. Knowing full well it was not an analog oscillator, I have found it fun to play. But the digital effects sound rather harsh. I was surprised when I connected the USB to my computer and opened up Cubase that this keyboard is also a great audio output device for a computer. The synth's audio is directly recorded through the USB connection as well as MIDI. No need to route the analog line output jacks through your mixer and then your audio interface to get it recorded into your DAW. You can play back audio from your computer and listen with headphones connected to the SH-01. My other complaint is the keyboard is an octave too short to do much.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      That sums it up nicely

    • @neonblack211
      @neonblack211 Před 10 dny

      How is the latency/timing over usb Though?

    • @keyboardtek
      @keyboardtek Před 10 dny

      @@neonblack211 I only used it one time. But I do not recall any latency issues. I recorded four tracks onto Cubase and it worked OK.

  • @astralstate
    @astralstate Před 2 lety +36

    That proud feeling of having one of your old synth memes make a bad gear episode 2:03🖖

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +7

      Thanks! Especially liked that one!

    • @thechadbuddha
      @thechadbuddha Před 2 lety +3

      thank you for your service fren

    • @kildogery
      @kildogery Před 2 lety

      Is this a "community"?

    • @reysandoval5075
      @reysandoval5075 Před 2 lety

      Not a bad synth at all. When I see a video clip of a Jeff Lorber tutorial and he has it sitting on top of a Yamaha Montage, and he is a Grammy winning old school jazz, funk artist that is known world wide for years, I’m sold on the fact that this little synth is a beast for its price.

  • @stretchbrah5627
    @stretchbrah5627 Před 2 lety +32

    MY FIRST SYNTH MADE IT ON BAD GEAR 😄 FINALLY! I'm so happy that you roasted so thoroughly, it was my entry point into this world without knowing what anything was. As a learning tool it helped me figure out subtractive synthesis so much, and as a starting point was honestly great

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for your patience!

    • @ChasedRabbit
      @ChasedRabbit Před rokem +1

      Would you still recommend it as a starting synth? I’m torn between something like this and a microfreak

    • @iixorb
      @iixorb Před rokem

      @@ChasedRabbit I would say so. It will help you to understand Oscillators, filtering, LFO’s, ADSR envelopes, layering, and still enjoy massive polyphony. A good beginner synth to see if you’re ready for this journey! (and not just for beginners either. Plenty of fun and usability for more experienced owners, too).

    • @kmarcum7832
      @kmarcum7832 Před rokem +1

      @@ChasedRabbit Its almost the perfect synth for a beginner.

    • @charlescohen1536
      @charlescohen1536 Před 9 měsíci

      I bought mine about two years ago, as a learning tool. I'm still learning. I'm considering a microfreak, but in that, a _lot_ of complexity is hidden away. With a Gaia, just about everything important is out in the open (or one "SHIFT" level down). With 3 oscillators per tone, with independent filters and envelopes, you can do some interesting stuff.

  • @pianoyam
    @pianoyam Před 2 lety +8

    Another reason I heart Bad Gear: I can't name any other synth channel where I watch the videos repeatedly, as if they're reruns of The Simpsons or something; not only is it informative, but it's straight up quality comedic entertainment. Animated comedy for adults is also a good comparison because of how densely packed the information/gags is/are; there's always some little nugget in there that you've missed in prior viewings.
    p.s. - Also, as a USA native, I'm astounded at the strength of your meme game, Florian. You got SKILLS!

  • @rafaelsantiago1170
    @rafaelsantiago1170 Před 2 lety +48

    Bro. ALL of the music you make for this show is INCREDIBLE !!!! Imagine if you used “good” gear? Holy heck. I want a CD of all these jams please. I would even pay money for it!! Novel idea I know!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +24

      Thank you so much! Full tracks are available as hi res wavs on my Patreon.

    • @K.Dor.888
      @K.Dor.888 Před 2 lety +2

      .... I want a cassette of all these jams....

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper Před 2 lety +16

      Spoiler: The musician matters more than the gear. Having good gear doesn't usually produce a dramatic increase in musical quality. For someone like Florian who makes bangers on almost anything, good gear makes it bang harder, but only a little. And, probably more to the point of the show, when someone hasn't developed their skills, buying expensive gear won't really help all that much.

    • @Jenavee26
      @Jenavee26 Před 2 lety +1

      0:13 I'm only up to here and yet I subscribed because of this comment. Let's hear those bangers lol

    • @towtracksoftware5963
      @towtracksoftware5963 Před rokem +1

      @@AudioPilz The videos at the end are amazing too! If you're doing all of that yourself you are amazingly talented and also clearly an insomniac. (that's sooooooo much work!!)

  • @midnightmix2692
    @midnightmix2692 Před 2 lety +69

    I have one of these. It's amazing for live gigs. It nails all trance/2010s edm sounds. The knob per function interface is hella useful when I just need to change something in the middle of a song. The resonance in the filter is really good on big speakers because it is sooo damn smooth. Keybed is very nice to play on. Doesn't sound analogue. That doesn't really bother me though. When I'm playing through 2000W of PA you cant really notice anything.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +23

      It's practically 2010 in a box!

    • @vectrexboy5605
      @vectrexboy5605 Před 2 lety +7

      true, perfect for Psytrance, so called «Gaia Goa» Trance ;-)

    • @atomicafro
      @atomicafro Před 2 lety +12

      True. I think there's something to be said for stable live gear. Might sound like absolute crap on a record, but if it takes a beating on the road and is easy to find replacements, it may be awesome in its own right.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee Před 2 lety +3

      @@atomicafro Easy to find a replacement, sure. But have you ever held one? It's the reason I couldn't complain about the Wavestate's build quality. It's no Nord, but if the other options are the Mininova or Microkorg, I'd just as soon get a JD-Xi or reface. But you can gig with one, sure. People gig with a mellotron, so as long as you take care of your stuff, sure. If you have back problems and are hard of hearing, it's about the perfect synth.

    • @berkut6313
      @berkut6313 Před 2 lety +4

      Fully agree ! Been playing live with it for about ten years. Great addition as an upper keyboard for soloing or bassing with properly sized keys. After a failed attempt to go back into music in the early 2000 with a menu-diving Korg Workstation (n364 kinda beefed-up M1), it showed me I could actually understand substractive synthesis. PLUS, with its dedicated hardened carry bag, it is quite lightweight and didn’t break my back. The fact that there is no screen makes it a breeze under dimmed or too bright lightings, although LEDs are a bit too flashy. Cool to tweak llive, although faders and knobs obviously do not reflect the actual layer of any given sound at any moment (no motorized faders and/ or infinite-course knobs). Way too pricey today, and useless as an audio interface, for its usb is too noisy and leaks into the DAC. If you’re in the market for live gigging and cash-strapped or not wanting to risk your wayyy pricier UDO Super-SIX, Prophet or whatever, for less than $/€ 300, I think it’s still a good value. Or if you want to learn sound design/synthesis with hands on...

  • @tdunster2011
    @tdunster2011 Před rokem +8

    Great Review. Gaia is my favourite synth of all time because unlike my D50 it didn't take me 30 years to learn how to program it. I was making my own patches on the Gaia within minutes.

  • @MegaCadr
    @MegaCadr Před 2 lety +43

    I think we should have a new show called "Let's see if AudioPilz can do anything with *this*", where we give you a selection of terrible tools and see what you come up with.
    Because you seem to *always* be able to make a banger.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +8

      Thank you so much! Some tools make it easier than others tho;)

    • @MegaCadr
      @MegaCadr Před 2 lety

      @ghost mall fair.

    • @adev8565
      @adev8565 Před 2 lety +1

      @ghost mall Yeah but he used the drumbrute impact, for example. Imagine if he had been forced to use a DFAM instead ;)

  • @airsickgrove
    @airsickgrove Před 2 lety +36

    I could swear this thing has been around longer than 2010... and they are still being made... actually saw ( no pun intended ) some for sale in either Sweetwater or zZounds about a week ago.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +15

      I think they still have warehouses full of GAIAs;)

    • @strelokknoize
      @strelokknoize Před 2 lety +4

      Nope. Roland showed it first at Musikmesse (Frankfurt), March 2010.

    • @autecheee
      @autecheee Před 2 lety +2

      @@AudioPilz Roland can always rebrand it as ‘AI’ to cash in the latest ‘ artificial intelligence’tech hype marketing that will ?? replace Doctors, financial analysts, Teachers yet not politicians and Amazon delivery workers. Would the Roland AI replace electronic musicians?

  • @TheVirgology
    @TheVirgology Před rokem +10

    I realize now that your videos prove that music is all about creativity and have nothing to do with gear. Your videos are informative, funny, and very entertaining. But you almost make people want the bad gear. Lol. Keep up the great work.

  • @InFamousProductions
    @InFamousProductions Před 2 lety +11

    Another slam dunk. The funny thing is, if I had that synth in 1981, it would have been the coolest synth on the earth with all it's features, and the sound is not bad. But like you say, Roland makes some weird decisions when they design a product. That track you made with it is epic. Like you said, it sits in the mix nicely.

  • @tomskley8864
    @tomskley8864 Před 2 lety +6

    Yeah! Nice to see this on the show, my wish came true! I think it is a great instrument for this price. I bought one and didn't regret it! It was the first time that I could immediately assign the sounds in the video to an instrument. The GAIA seems to be unique!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Pleasure!

    • @tomskley8864
      @tomskley8864 Před 2 lety +1

      @ghost mall they always try, but they will never build a trance-Synth like the JP-8000.

  • @threoples
    @threoples Před 4 měsíci +1

    Gaia SH-01 was my first synth. While it isn't the best synth, and is quite knee-capped in terms of the kinds of sounds it can make, I have fond memories of laying in bed at 15 years old with this thing in my lap, headphones in, and jamming my heart out on it.
    As a 15 year old, this thing was my favorite thing. It was extremely easy to learn how to program simple loops and taught me a lot about subtractive synthesis. Even someone who has never heard of an oscillator before (like me at 15) can sit down and within an hour deeply understand the waveforms, ASDR, filters, LFOs, polyphony vs mono, bending, portamento, etc.

  • @sean6399
    @sean6399 Před 2 lety +2

    It's Friday, it's bad gear time, best part of thecweek!

  • @GerenM63
    @GerenM63 Před 2 lety +45

    I've almost purchased an SH-01 three times. It so wants to be a great synth. As you say, at first glance, it's ticking all the boxes. Believe it or not, the biggest drawback for me has been in the way that Roland insists on implementing it's patch storage. Other drawbacks for me are that once you load a patch, moving any control causes an immediate and sometimes jarring change in the sound. And, the digital oscillators are a bit lacking, not so much because of the tonal quality, but because unlike most modern digital/VA synths, you can't morph between the waveforms. Even some analog synths allow that! For only a little bit more money, you can get the Modal Electronics Cobalt8. Sure, you don't get the GM2 sound set, but you get a helluva virtual analog synth!
    Roland's got another dirty little secret, by the way. If you buy a VR-09 or a VR/VC-730 and hook an iPad up to it, you can access a complete GAIA under the hood that adds wavetables to the available oscillator waveforms.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +10

      Wow, the VR-09 or a VR/VC-730 thing blows my mind!!!

    • @ageshero
      @ageshero Před 2 lety

      @@AudioPilz Dude, the vr-09 is SICK, its got some sample based pads and sounds from the juno lineup stacked inside there and they really hold up under live performance, the drums inside it are great too, but the immersive organ simulation is alot of fun too. Electric pianos and really any sounds you want are kind of packed into the vr09, i had the chance to get one, but it just didn't work out, and i wish it had.

    • @ModestEgg
      @ModestEgg Před 2 lety +2

      ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! I own both a GAIA and a VR-09!

    • @GerenM63
      @GerenM63 Před 2 lety

      @@ageshero I had one for some time, and generally, I agree. But there are a couple areas where it falls down, at least in my opinion: horns in general, no aftertouch which is crucial for sounds like harmonica, and the distortion effect.

    • @GerenM63
      @GerenM63 Před 2 lety

      @@ModestEgg I would never kid about something like that!

  • @attizzoso
    @attizzoso Před 2 lety +6

    It is impressive to note how promptly you manage to bring out the true character of each instrument reviewed. Love you bro

  • @thefool2007
    @thefool2007 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video. Love your demos. All of the visuals are fantastic. High quality and super entertaining and informative.

  • @MrBrawl
    @MrBrawl Před 2 lety +3

    Loved this vid! I'm new to synth and have recently become a Sweetwater Sales Engineer. Daniel Fisher, the synth expert at Sweetwater, taught our class on synth 101 and used this synth as an educational tool. You nailed it: So many possibilities, and for someone like Dan, he knew exactly how to get them and would show us what was going on. I dig your explanation of what's going on here to add onto my growing understanding of synthesis.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks!!! Daniel Fisher is a legend! Big fan. All the best!!!

    • @guymulry6168
      @guymulry6168 Před rokem

      The GAIA sounds good in the right hands. Daniel Fisher's demo video is a great example. It was him that me grab one of these off the used market. So simple to dial in sounds. The low end is weak though.

  • @jann_rygh
    @jann_rygh Před 10 měsíci +4

    if I hear "versatile" I think of the Gaia. Had about 20 Synths back in PreCorona Time, like the Peak, Prophet 6, Rev2, Hydrasynth, Juno106 or Poly.... the Gaia was the most fun, most versatile and most creative, for me personally. The other ones were nice but after 2 or 3 Weeks they didn't motivate because you already knew what they'll bring. With the Gaia it was everyday sth new. Miss it ❤

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 10 měsíci

      Nice collection you had there;)

  • @SuperAnatolli
    @SuperAnatolli Před rokem +3

    It seems much better than I thought.

  • @btaylo24
    @btaylo24 Před 2 lety +2

    7:22 love the subtile message on the drum unit. Please never stop making YT videos!

  • @doordedeur
    @doordedeur Před 2 lety +10

    It's indeed basically a beefed up SoundCanvas rompler, instead of a real VA-synth. Hence the built-in GeneralMidi soundset. But with all the features of the GAIA, it makes a great usable synth, with more features than most 'budget' VA-synths.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      The SoundCanvas is strong in this one;)

    • @matszh
      @matszh Před 2 lety +1

      Even the JD800 is a rompler with knobs. I wouldn’t complain even if all romplers were this user friendly.

    • @doordedeur
      @doordedeur Před 2 lety +1

      @@matszh The JD-800 was never intended to be a VA synth. That was a prototype for the later JV-80 synth. The SH-01 claims to be a VA synth, but a real VA generates the waveforms, instead of using samples.

    • @matszh
      @matszh Před 2 lety +1

      @@doordedeur Virtual means ”not really”. If ”not really” uses digital oscillators, samples or wavetables doesn’t really matter to me, if it’s editable and the sound is good. But of course you don’t wanna hear loop-points and similar.

    • @doordedeur
      @doordedeur Před 2 lety

      @@matszh Virtual means trying to recreate analog behaviour. That doesn't work with samples. The SH-01 is a great synth, but not comparable to for instance a Yamaha AN-1X.

  • @kildogery
    @kildogery Před 2 lety +4

    I've said/implied it before, but a series this niche, with production values and style like this, is very special indeed.
    You're my favourite crazy Austrian.

  • @waynebarrow2517
    @waynebarrow2517 Před rokem +3

    I have to say that despite its shortcomings, you make the Roland GAIA sound absolutely f#$%*()g amazing and make me want to buy one!

  • @t0xcn253
    @t0xcn253 Před 2 lety +2

    General Midi appearance? AND an iconic rendering of "How'd I do"? Gentlemen, we have Bad Gear.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! It's the general's theme song;)

  • @Beetlemuse
    @Beetlemuse Před 2 lety +1

    You posted this right after I finished a project were I used nothing but the Gaia. It was good to see the facts about it and not just hearing people complain about it! 👍 Great video as well as the music!

  • @MetalVideoGamer
    @MetalVideoGamer Před rokem +3

    I remember using the Roland Gaia SH-01in my audio engineer school in 2013. I wasn't impress but we where there to learn how to use the subtractive synthesis by creating a bass, a pad, a bell and a lead with the glissando feature.
    As always you manage to make bad gear sound cool hehe

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před rokem +1

      Thanks! Yeah, it's a great educational tool

  • @warteraummusik
    @warteraummusik Před 2 lety +4

    Glad to see my beloved Gaia make a feature on your channel! Used "her" for quite some live shows, but the sound just wasn't menacing enough haha. Still, Gaia holds a special place in my synth-heart for nostaligic reasons. ^^

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Yeah, it stays polite most of the time

  • @KbIPbIL0
    @KbIPbIL0 Před rokem +2

    the "coming up with jam names with obscure instruments" is an absolute art and you are a god of it

  • @brandonharris9160
    @brandonharris9160 Před 2 lety +1

    We love you bro. Thanks for all the amazing work

  • @sofascialistadankulamegado1781

    Grimes' earlier work was done using Roland Gaia sh-01. I'm wanting to buy one. Its got some basic but nice filters that i like all in a small form factor.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před rokem

      Have you considered getting a Microkorg?

  • @dawnr8511
    @dawnr8511 Před 2 lety +4

    The Gaia is a damn good synth. Yah, it doesn't brew coffee, is my only negative on it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      I'll have a double espresso then;)

  • @kenzieprice6745
    @kenzieprice6745 Před 2 lety +2

    Finally! The long awaited Roland Gaia bad gear episode.
    Really enjoyed this one!
    As much as I know I shouldn't, I'll still have to grab one when I see a good price and give it a poke. Due diligence...

  • @fickfehler3866
    @fickfehler3866 Před rokem +2

    You forgot about the 'Roland Sound Designer' s/w that this uses on PC or MAC. It elevates this to a whole new level.

  • @lazaruslaser
    @lazaruslaser Před 2 lety +3

    I got one 4 years ago and Fricken Love it...
    Great Filter on this one, which is the Synths Whole Character...
    Use it with a Nord stage 3 compact...
    Nobody even mentioned it can be battery powered...
    Perfect for MPC live 2 recording.. impromptu jams etc..
    Light as a Feather too..
    Awesome filter , 3 Oscillators ... with tons of usable content.. what's not to Love..

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Really liked the filter too, especially compared to older Roland models

  • @streettrash_sid
    @streettrash_sid Před rokem +3

    I really enjoy my SH01.
    Bought it second hand for a bargain £250. Had it over 10 years & have used it for tens of thousands of hours without a single issue.
    It’s easy, enjoyable, well built & after so many years I still use it frequently.

  • @BuddhaPhi
    @BuddhaPhi Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for continuing to make fantastic videos and fun jams using bad gear! I played the GAIA in music store for a couple hours when it was new. It was interesting but I wasn't blown away by how it sounded (average). Nothing stood out. For the same price or less I think I could have purchased one of 20 other ROMpler or VA synths that sounded the nearly same. It was disappointing. This could have been a great synth.

  • @sivabala5425
    @sivabala5425 Před 2 lety +1

    Was waiting for this. THANKS

  • @containercore6832
    @containercore6832 Před 2 lety +4

    Awesome ep as usual. It was interesting to hear about the fraudulent supersaw. Roland had a couple years prior used samples as an inexpensive alternative to VA in the SH-32, although they were very keen to market it as a groundbreaking new synthesis technology, "Wave Acceleration Sound Generation".

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      I really like Romplers but I also like manufacturers to be transparent about it;)

  • @garretmeeboer724
    @garretmeeboer724 Před rokem +3

    I lucked out and found one of these in an apartment dumpster, wrapped nicely in bubble wrap. It missing the AC adapter, but is in perfect condition, aside from an illegible signature. I can't say I know enough about synth culture and science to be anything be impressed so far, but I think that means they hit their mark! With little synth experience I can completely say that I'm thrilled to have found it and excited to play around more with it!!! Maybe I'll hate it in a year, who knows?

  • @Astronometric
    @Astronometric Před 2 lety +1

    You REEEEALY needy to make an episode about how you do video-editing. Incredible as always.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks!!! I'll try to squeeze that in

  • @unfinishedmonkeyrecords
    @unfinishedmonkeyrecords Před 2 lety +2

    I don't have it anymore but sometimes I regret it, it was such fun to work with it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Have you tried the JDXi?

    • @unfinishedmonkeyrecords
      @unfinishedmonkeyrecords Před 2 lety +1

      @@AudioPilz yes I have but I prefered the workflow and sounds of the gaia. Those kitchy rave arps and sick bass leads just worked for me :-) I used it mostly in combination with the TR8 , a sub phatty and a monologue and at the time I was doing a lot of dawless jamming with an rc505 as a live looping tool and using auxes on a soundcraft for live fx on all hardware. So i could choose to do fingerplay or looping and controle the dry and wet signals. Had a lot of fun like that. For simple 4 bar melodies and arps the gaia was perfect. I did eventually sell it to buy a virtus ti :-)

  • @23jackleeder
    @23jackleeder Před 2 lety +7

    It's mysterious what gear lurks around the market for decades always for sale. The alesis SR16 is another. Are they timeless classics or overproduced leftover stock..
    Great episode!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      The SR16 is around almost 20 years longer than the GAIA;) Thanks!

  • @system23
    @system23 Před 2 lety +3

    I got one when they came out and still bring it out for group jams. One of the big selling points for me was that it is battery powered with mostly one function per control.

  • @pearsemacintyre1728
    @pearsemacintyre1728 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this guy and i love this channel. Every sentence starts up high, then goes down to the bottom then ends in the middle

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Questions end high tho;)

    • @pearsemacintyre1728
      @pearsemacintyre1728 Před 2 lety

      @@AudioPilz really one of my favourite channels on CZcams. Thank you 🙏

  • @tomaszmazurek64
    @tomaszmazurek64 Před 2 lety +2

    I used GAIA as a sort of a toy synth I would design sounds on during downtimes at work. I think your summary is spot on - it's really fun to design sounds on it and that three layer architecture is as primitive as it is useful, but when you listen to those sounds you have designed later, they usually do not sound all that good.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! That sums it up nicely

  • @jthorpe4droid
    @jthorpe4droid Před 2 lety +3

    I always wanted one of these but opted for the ultranova, cool video mate.

  • @gregbarnes6836
    @gregbarnes6836 Před 2 lety +4

    Two things you missed. Roland charged for the software editor (£80!) which was the only way to change the arpeggios. Also, Roland ceased driver support for the USB / audio interface (which was only usb1 anyway!) about 2 years after launch. This means they have been selling a legacy product for years without any official updates for the drivers.
    Otherwise I loved my Gaia, but in comparison to more recent synths, it just doesn’t have the depth of sound.

  • @paparas888
    @paparas888 Před 2 lety +1

    Was looking forward to this one !

  • @extralifedisco
    @extralifedisco Před 2 lety +2

    Been waiting for this one! Great effort as always (especially that last tune). Really a shame about the way this synth sounds, it has such a nicely designed interface and I love those roland keybeds. I had no idea about the PCM controversy, I suppose that goes some way towards explaining how an "VA" synth can sound so plastic.

    • @PedroAnastazi
      @PedroAnastazi Před 2 lety +1

      LOL believe me, this video doesnt do the unit justice... BUT in this day and age, youre better off getting an MC101 and turning it into 8x JP8000's (which can easily be done with clever patch creation and KB layout config)
      THIS unit IS fun, and stupid fast with no menu diving, only stupid shift holds which arent gna kill ya... but its dead easy and PHATTTTTT if u program it properly.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! True that!

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic Před 2 lety +74

    SH = Samples Hidden.

    • @chewilliams8631
      @chewilliams8631 Před 2 lety +2

      Or Shhhh. It's a secret

    • @reggiep75
      @reggiep75 Před 2 lety +1

      I sniggered a bit hard at this. I hope my nose doesn't bleed as it's been a sonovabitch lately. 😂

    • @fromgreetings
      @fromgreetings Před 2 lety

      SH = hidden IT

  • @billyruss
    @billyruss Před 2 lety +3

    Love me my Gaia. And it's a great teaching synth for those just starting out to learn how the analog synth signal path is put togeher.

  • @jaspermolenaar1218
    @jaspermolenaar1218 Před 2 lety +1

    The intro clips always make me smile

  • @MrBeen992
    @MrBeen992 Před 2 lety +2

    I dont have it, but I love that it has every control on the front panel

  • @ptkelly80
    @ptkelly80 Před 2 lety +4

    My only gripe with the Integra-7 is that, like this, the supersaw (and probably the other waves, too) is sampled. It’s why I still want a virtual analog someday.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +4

      I don't mind that so much but a little transparency goes a long way;)

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 2 lety

      Your gripe with a rompler box is that its supersaws, like every other rompler box, is sampled just like absolutely all of its other sounds? Hmmm, why did you pick up a rompler box if you wanted a VA?
      Well, you can always send that Integra-7 to me, I'll make sure it gets used and loved ;)

  • @PhilW222
    @PhilW222 Před 2 lety +4

    One aspect that makes it different is that each channel can have a completely different sound, great for layered sounds and pads. I got one second hand for £300 a few years ago and in the whole, I’m pretty happy with it.

  • @kmk4960
    @kmk4960 Před rokem +1

    Wow!!!!! Great detective work on the VA issue! That's sneaky of Roland!

  • @Klangraum
    @Klangraum Před 2 lety +1

    Another great Bad Gear from Roland. Man, you are the Happy Bad Gear Checker! 🤙

  • @richardjones6424
    @richardjones6424 Před 2 lety +3

    Had mine for ages, yes the supersaw is a sample loop. But if you take your 3 oscillators with enough detune and then use the pitch shifter to put a slight detune on that then you have a supersaw in stereo.
    The distortion effects sound awful, never use them same for flanging and phaser. Turn them off and add them in Daw. The filter resonance is not useful past 75%. But i will never get rid of it. It is still useful.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Didn't really like the distortion either...

  • @martijn7898
    @martijn7898 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Another great video.
    And more disputed: another great synth. 😉
    There’s a lot to like about the GAIA. Although people say the oscillators sound horrible, I compared them to various classic synths and I thought they actually came closer than some vst’s that emulated those synths. (The power of sampling I guess… 😉)
    It was made in a time when synths were more complete I think, full-size MIDI ports, mix in, etc.
    The filters at high resonance could be slightly better, and I’d love to have better EQ than just Low Boost on/off.
    Still, it is so good IMO, so versatile. I am always surprised how some synths get a bad name quickly and then everyone else repeats it, followed by “it’s a toy”. I like it more than the eg older Novation synths. And with all the hate, second hand prices are good. 🙂

  • @delbert359
    @delbert359 Před 2 lety +1

    first video of yours that I watched. You seem like a crazy man. so of course I subscribed ;)

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K6 Před 2 lety +1

    YAY!! I've been waiting for THIS one to be reviewed in your hands. LOL :P And here it finally is.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Happy to hear that!

  • @howardmaryon
    @howardmaryon Před 2 lety +4

    Darn it! I have an ambition to go all the way through a Bad Gear episode understanding all the movie references and meme-based humour without having to rewind. I nearly made it this time, but the Homer/Jackson Pollock gag made me laugh so much I missed several immediately after. One day..........

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      KUDOS!!! That's quite a challenge. Even I tend to miss some gags in QC;)

  • @bigkik
    @bigkik Před 7 měsíci +4

    Seems like there will be some new Roland goodness on the way with the brand new Gaia 2 ; can't wait 😂

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 Před 7 měsíci

      The new one sounds worse than the original, imho …

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah, let's see if I can get hold of one!!!

  • @MrNiniko
    @MrNiniko Před 2 lety +1

    Once again, awesome. All good my friend.

  • @jack3361
    @jack3361 Před 2 lety +1

    Great episode!

  • @dennisristow2102
    @dennisristow2102 Před 2 lety +3

    Part of the Roland lineage I'd love to see reviewed would be the SH-32 VA in a box. That machine has a lot of good and a lot of bad inside it ;) love the humor in this series. Spooky that the super saw is a sampled loop you were able to phase cancel.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      SH-32 is a great idea, thanks!

    • @drsamurai009
      @drsamurai009 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AudioPilz Just beware the resonance. It can split your ears and your speakers if maxed out! At least mine used to ;)

  • @Empirism
    @Empirism Před 2 lety +6

    This synth is so underrated, it have fantastic sound, for its price, definately not a scam, good choice for everyone who want to learn to build sounds.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      I would have preferred Roland to be a little more honest about its true nature

  • @drumbran
    @drumbran Před 2 lety

    I’ve been waiting for this one!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for the patience!!!

  • @TheManInCommand
    @TheManInCommand Před 7 měsíci +1

    I purchased it when it first came out. It was the first analog synth I personally owned. I still have it in mint condition. The Roland Gaia works awesome with outboard effects or processed through the Roland SP 404MKII. The Roland Gaia also leaves a lot of room to add your own saturation and harmonic distortiom. At this point, I don't think I'd ever sell it. Most keyboards usually get a second wind on the resell market decades later.

  • @thechadbuddha
    @thechadbuddha Před 2 lety +6

    i love the interface. if you want to learn sound synthesis this synth is rly easy to understand but for the price you get other nice synths

  • @norjia
    @norjia Před 2 lety +3

    as someone who uses the gaia every day i have to say that thing is freaking amazing when it comes to making ambient pads. and the LFO is pretty.. versatile actually

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed!

    • @mrloverman2361
      @mrloverman2361 Před rokem

      I just wands buy it and use as a midi, for studio production, is that a good idea

    • @norjia
      @norjia Před rokem

      @@mrloverman2361 it has full-size keys. They aren't bad, tho no where near what a good dedicated midi keyboard could offer you. It does have velocity sensitivity (if you enable it) but no such thing as aftertouch if you need that

  • @atariexplorer1545
    @atariexplorer1545 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic video as always - my GAIA has a lot in common with my M-Audio Venom, they are both white, covered in dust and and I don't use them enough anymore :-(

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks! The Venom has a little more character I would say

  • @i_never_asked_for_an_alias

    Excellent episode,

  • @Stadsjaap
    @Stadsjaap Před 2 lety +3

    Oh, I was waiting for this one!! Having to wait to watch it is the worst part of working late on a Friday.
    I toyed around with one instore and I have to give it the all time award for worst presets on a reasonably competent synth.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Hey, thanks for your patience!!!

  • @jamessisson3703
    @jamessisson3703 Před 2 lety +5

    This is a machine I don't want to lose EVER. I especially like the GS/GM function. It could do everything if you had nothing else other than a PC and good speakers + microphone and software. The keys feel spongey but, forgivable. Just ask Jerry Blofeld!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +2

      Jerry Blofeld is the hero we need;)

  • @keymagicinc520
    @keymagicinc520 Před rokem +1

    Excellent and fun video, thank you!

  • @spherical5815
    @spherical5815 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant review 👏
    Gimme last weeks gear anyday .

  • @sonicaids
    @sonicaids Před 2 lety +3

    this was one of the first synths i ever got to test out in a store and i was in love with it but couldn't afford it with my pocket money, years later i bought one used and have barely touched it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, some gear just doesn't click

  • @THEREALDATALORD
    @THEREALDATALORD Před 2 lety +4

    When these came out I was drooling over them. Seems like such reasonable controls and versatile sounds back in 2010 especially compared to the Micro Korg.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +3

      I'd still prefer the little Korg

    • @ulfsvensson9710
      @ulfsvensson9710 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AudioPilz I have both.

    • @wm_shadde
      @wm_shadde Před 2 lety

      Or even the ms2000.. it had a dirty VA sound, and gaia sounded too clean

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, the controls were enticing, until I pressed a key and heard the sound coming out of it. It didn't take me more than 5 minutes to move on to another synth.
      All this time, Roland has been advertising it as a virtual analog synth when it's not. That's probably why so many actual VA synths sound so much better than the GAIA.
      Edit: I never bought a GAIA, I've only tried playing them on display several times. It's a synth that I keep coming back to purely because, somehow, it's still available new for sale. So every once in a while, I think about it and ask myself "Is it really as bad as I thought it was?" Then I try it again and am instantly reminded "Yes! Yes it is!"

  • @mudi2000a
    @mudi2000a Před 2 lety +1

    Another great episode of „Bad Roland Gear“ 😁! Maybe you can do an episode about the Jupiter-80 or 50

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Thank you!!! I'll have a closer look

  • @Polyend
    @Polyend Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool episode!

  • @MurphysLaw996
    @MurphysLaw996 Před 2 lety +3

    Even on the used market this synth is way too expensive, at that price, you can get a Korg Radias module which is not a rompler disguised as a virtual analog. It’s 4 part multi timbral, has decent drum kits, real supersaw oscillators, a cool vocoder etc.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      I have to check that one out!

  • @KyleWhitlock-Music
    @KyleWhitlock-Music Před 2 lety +3

    As any Experienced Synthesist will tell you it’s how you Use what you have. I love my GAIA and it’s gonna take a permanent spot in my home studio! Sometimes Less is Best 😄

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      I've heard that before;) Happy to hear that it works for you

  • @kommissar.murphy
    @kommissar.murphy Před rokem +2

    I use the mini jack input and the R output to create an external fx loop.
    Through a little Big Muff on it and it sounds very pleasing to the ear.

  • @mixn5919
    @mixn5919 Před 2 lety +2

    I remember playing this in store years ago, every music shop in my area seemed to have at least one that they couldn't sell. I was one of the people that kinda hated it haha. You got some really impressive sounds out of it though, especially in the finale! Also that General-MIDI soundset goes hard!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! The one I had on the show was one of these unsold floor models😂

  • @klassik2189
    @klassik2189 Před 2 lety +4

    I think some patches sound really nice and I like the design.

  • @officialloner88
    @officialloner88 Před 2 lety +14

    I’ve never understood why Roland has kept selling the Gaia when they have abandoned better synths so quickly

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Agreed!

    • @Fractalite
      @Fractalite Před 2 lety +4

      It is simple. They sell them by the hundreds to high schools where subtractive synthesis is part of the curriculum in music classes. Its reliable and mostly one knob per function. No menu diving. It doesnt even have a display. Btw I own one and wouldnt part with it. It ha spectacularly long envelope release times, so fantastic for creating ambient patches.

    • @officialloner88
      @officialloner88 Před 2 lety

      @@Fractalite what you said actually makes a lot of sense. I can see it as a great teaching tool. I took a music production class in high school and would have learned more from the Gaia instead of the Roland xp-10.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před rokem

      @@Fractalite what’s the max? I love 10s max envelopes, for those 3-8 second swells

  • @streettrash_sid
    @streettrash_sid Před 2 lety +1

    Had my Gaia around 10 years, still frequently use it & still really enjoy it.
    Ive used it for many thousands of hours & it’s never missed a beat.
    It’s had a hard gigged life.
    The Gaia is extremely reliable, creative, sounds great & is intuitive fun.
    They can be found used in excellent condition for £350 & that’s an outstanding deal.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Před 2 lety

      Great to hear that it works for you!

  • @apolotary
    @apolotary Před 2 lety +1

    That intro video with retro-themed synth sounds is amazing