Roland GAIA Tutorial - How To Find & Use The Hidden PCM Patch Bank
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just bought this one new !! After 30 years of playing drums, new things to learn for me...Love it !!
Incredible, can’t believe I have a Gaia and never knew this!! Thanks 🙏
I was waiting so excitedly to hear that 7th patch...TOTALLY WORTH IT
Love your channel! You've turned me on to so many cool iPad synth apps!!!
I found this bit of info on the Gaia w.r.t. turning OFF the GM voices so they don't start playing unintentionally via MIDI channels other than ch1...
HOW TO TURN OFF GM TONES
System Update version 1.04 adds the ability to switch off the GM sound engine in the GAIA SH-01. This can be useful if you are controlling the GAIA SH-01 from another MIDI controller, or from a MIDI sequencer, and only want to hear the analog modeling synth engine on one MIDI channel.
Here are the steps:
1. Hold down the [CANCEL/SHIFT] button and press the [V-LINK] button to enter the System Setting mode.
2. Hold down the EXT IN [CENTER CANCEL ON] button and press the [EFFECTS ON/OFF] button to switch the "GM Parts Switch" ON and OFF.
* You can confirm the parameter setting by verifying the following light condition while holding down the EXT IN [CENTER CANCEL ON] button.
[EFFECTS ON/OFF] lights up: GM Parts Switch is ON.
[EFFECTS ON/OFF] lights down： GM Parts Switch is OFF.
PS THANKS FOR THE 8 NEW PATCHES!!!!!
Thanks for sharing, your skills made me go practice
I know a Roland /Boss tech who recommended I get one of these many years ago. He still says that they are one of Roland's most reliable synths that he only gets to fix after gross mis-treatment. They also have a very low drain back up battery which should last 20 years. I think they were designed to be used in schools and colleges so were built bullet proof.
Wow thanks so much! No idea. These are fantastic.
Hey Doug, love your stuff! Sound 7 is amazing - that Barber Shop vocal sample is superb. I wonder did Yes use an earlier version of this on 90125? I've heard similar on that album?
There are more sounds including a piano one. I stumbled across them one day and I couldn't figure out how to find them again 😂. Thanks for showing me how to actually find them.
Do you meen the GM sounds? I believe the Gaia has them
How did you make it sound like a classic piano, i dont get it?
@@askejrgensen6006 there's a full, high quality GM set, under the bonnet. You'll need to come in via MIDI
@@craigpacker2693 my guy! thanks
@@craigpacker2693 can you explain to me like I'm 5 what do you mean? I can only access those sounds with the gaia editor program?
Awesome demo! Picking up one next week, I'm very excited!
Also the inclusion of some basic PCM sounds is absolutely bonkers! I hate fiddling with VSTs.
And great playing! Wish I had some keyboard skills 😬🤐
Happy to see that you were able to obtain a synthisizer that you have always loved and then purchase it a bargain even sweetens the deal.
Such a intuitive panel that the GAIA gives to the player. She will work perfect for teaching and easier to explain how this type of synth works.
The Gaia's manual does actually mention these patches, on page 18, under the heading "Preset Group (PRESET)". I have used the trumpet and saxophone settings on one of my recordings, and I adore the church organ patch.
Your playing the voices at 7:20 made me smile.
You can also get to the other PCM presets using a controller
@@agst2006 "other" PCM presets...? Tell me more!
@@stephenjames4937 Please see my channel, I uploaded 2 videos about this
@@agst2006 I watched them, and the patches are great, but I know nothing about MIDI channels, what they are for nor how to use them!
@@stephenjames4937 you have to use another keyboard or computer to play hundreds of other pcm sounds within the gaia, including drums
Thanks for sharing 👍
thanks for sharing
The Roland Gaia SH-01 was my first ever synthesizer, up until then I was always in and out of Red Dog Music (sadly its gone now) in Edinburgh p[laying with their amazing display of keyboards and always getting dirty loks from some of the staff for "I wish he'd buy something" be I rarely did, I did however purchase the SH-01 second hand, it came as ex-display with no box or instructions either and to this day I've still got it and I play with it every single day, I have a few other synths now too but they are digital synths whereas the SH-01 is a virtual analogue synth.
So today I stumbled upon somebody elses video about the Gaia SH-01 and the guy was talking about downloading 64 new patches at a small cost of just $23.00, the thing is though that my SH-01 was already uploaded with some 64 patches while being on display in Red Dog Music and since theres no LED display to view I cannot see what they are called ?? how do I know I'm not going to purchase the exact same patches ??? 🤔😣😣 that would be a bit of a bad luck !! So after watching a few more videos on CZcams your video came up and I was surprised to hear you say that there are 8 hidden banks of new sounds, well I thought to myself, how will he be able to tell if they are new banks ?? theres no LED display and quite a few of the existing banks sounds like each other anyway 😲😲 but I watched your video anyway and I was wrong, you made me pleasantly surprised to hear the 8 new sounds, I've owned this synth for quite a few years now and I never knew about these sounds 😖😖 some of them sounds absolutely great especially No's 1 the church organ and there are a good few already on the machine 👍 (and no, before you suspect anything I'm NOT a bible thumper) 😲🙄 I also like No 4 the violin and No 7 the Doo Doo Doo na Daa Daa Daa !! lol 😆
So because you opened my eyes and ears too, to 8 new sounds I have just subscribed to your channel nd given you a thumbs up too 👍
Hope to see some more great videos ??
If you or anyone else knows any more hidden sound banks in the SH-01 then let me know please ??
Glen 👍
What about the bagpipes ??? anyone know if theres a patch available for the bagpipes ??? lol 😂😂🤣
I didnt know! Thank you
NICE it works!
It's funny, because aside from my Gaia I also have a Juno DS61 and those hidden patches are right out of the DS. Pretty wild. I don't care what anyone says, I adore my Gaia!
"right out of the DS"
arguably right out of the JV/XV line, much like the majority of the DS' own sounds ;)
@@Jason75913 Wrong. The Juno DS has a modern set of 1200+ sounds (sure it sounds similar to the JV/XV, but it has a different/larger set of sounds). It actually can load all the factory JV/XV patches, but only few of them are present in the DS by default. Also with Juno DS you get the entire line of SRX-expansions sounds... for free.
i also love the vocal scat program
You're into scat?😮
Thank you .Super .peace
These PCM sounds are pretty good. I can definitely use those strings. I'm wondering why no basic piano in the collection. Is it hidden somewhere I haven't found yet?
There is an acoustic piano sound accesible by MIDI
I remember finding this when I had my Gaia; funnily enough I left it on the piano and organ sounds so long that it made me realise I wanted those more and buy a Nord Electro instead :-D
Peanut Turner How do you access the other sounds?
I think there's just those 8; sorry there might not have been piano actually now that I think about it....
Thats weird because I recall hearing my Gaia play a quite nice piano sound (which definitely is not one of my presets) when I was messing about with the midi. I came to this video looking to find the piano sound as I thought it was one of the PCM sounds, but it isn't...
Any ideas?
It seems Roland snug in a bit of their General MIDI Wavetable into that beauty :D The DOH DAH patch is nice!! So darn cheesy but man i love it. This hidden easteregg kinda makes the GAIA a lil bit of a D-50. Especially with that voice ooooh pad in preset 8. I wonder, can you actually stack them like in all 3 Tones and save them as custom presets? I remember having looked at that Synth back in 2011 or 2012 but never really followed it again anymore. Looking back at it now it still seems quite tempting.
...like my Gaia, too!
nice! does this have slapping bass guitar an upright bass sounds in the banks?
Wow what a great hidden feature. I love my Gaia but sadly Roland don't seem to. The Gaia was released in 2010 amd sadly it's never had any updates from Roland, they seem to have totally abandoned it now :-/ :-/
I just used the USB port to connect to an old version of Cubase. I was surprised to find out the GAIA's USB port not only is a MIDI connection but also a high quality audio interface. If I create an audio track, then whatever sound I have selected on the GAIA, it's audio is then recorded! Then when I created MIDI tracks I found out channel 2 on up will play a General MIDI voice inside the GAIA. You have to use the program number assignment on the CUBASE MIDI track to choose the General MIDI voice you want. The only issue is it will also play the General MIDI voice as well as the synth voice so one has to select each of the three voices in the GAIA and turn the gain to zero so all you then hear is the General MIDI voice. The General MIDI voices have no effects on them.
Wondered if you are aware that if you want to make a new patch, pressing the 'write' button while holding down the cancel /shift button gives you a base tone to start from.
You sound like Lord Sugar :)- great vid tx!
Lord Alan Sugar?
Do you have envelope control over the PCM sounds? Love the
pipe Organ sound :-)
Yes. Envelope and filter as well. I like this synth a lot so far!
@@theofficialdowbrain can you save and stored edited PCM sounds?
@@germanshepherdlover2613 I'm pretty sure you can't unless there is some hidden way I don't know about.
how many sounds are in the presets? so you do get to modify it into another family members? I doubt u can make anything with just this??
I had no idea I could access hidden sounds on my Gaia. Can you release some cool USB patches. And can you do a tutorial on saving patches to USB and yeah. +1 sub from me. Did anyone tell you that you sound like Craig Charles.
i did a whole funk tape with this machine. OMG i love this fuckin thing!
just got my hands on one and even got the extra usb provided by sweetwater. well i was looking at a shotty tutorial on how to sync the Gaia to my DAW and now I cant acces my usb sounds i think. How do I get to them. If i turn the Gaia on with the USB plugged in the machine is non responsive almost like its off. noting happens. If i turn on without usb plugged it it boots up like normal. Please tell me i havent corrupted my USB
I am guessing these are from the GM bank which is built-in to Gaia but only accessible through external MIDI input and using the channels higher than "1" which by default is reserved for the VA engine... Until now, I had read that was the only way to access them, so this is a pleasant surprise.
akguni Yes, I agree, I think these 8 sounds are the only ones accessible from the GAIA itself though
I didnt realise I had a GM set sitting there. It it full multi-timbral and how many voices of polyphony?
There is set of GM sounds. Once you have activated their access, by pressing and holding Preset patch + button, just send some program change commands, and you access them. You can even use the filter and the effects.
It was such a fantastic concept by roland to have 3 subtractive synth engines instead of just having a normal 3 oscillator synth, the sounds you can create with thous 3 amp env and the 3 filter env plus the 3 pitch env, are amazing, some of the progressive pads that you can create that evolve over time using all the env on this synth and the modulation sound fantastic, and if you really try you can get some d50 type pad sounds out of it, i wished roland would bring out a more upmarket version with 6 subtractive synth engines and maybe a sample engine to :)
Juno DS has a 16 channel multitimbral engine with 4 partials per each sound (true stereo waveforms and separate LFOs/filters/envelopes per each partial), the powerful modulation matrix, user waveforms and samples import, the entire line of SRX-expansions available as a free download (including the legendary "Ultimate Keys" expansion!) and 61/76/88 keys. What else do you need?
@8:24 what song/ chord progression are you playing? Please 🥺🥺🥺
these 8 sounds could be a demo mode, so that you can here the PCM sounds in a store, without having to dick around with it.
OR - they could be for educational purposes, for students to play around with filtering and enveloping complex waveforms via the front panel of the Gaia, and comparing to the sound of simple waveforms. This would make sense, because they are all sustained sounds which would respond well to such experimentation.
Both envelopes are available and the filter settings, and I have also noticed that pressing both User and Preset together 'MANUAL' applies the current settings of these parameters to the sound. Neat!
Is anyone aware if these actual sounds are all available somewhere else, within the internal GM set.., and has anyone ever documented the GM set? (other than simply the GM2 name-set, that is?)
These PCM was the only mistake Roland made. If you have a controller keyboard in zones sending 3 different MIDI channels to 3 synths, the Gaia will respond to channel one, but the PCMs will respond to channel 2, 3, 4..... making this synth impossible to filter MIDI channels going to it. You can't just send MIDI channel one to the Gaia when you are sending a different zone MIDI channel to another synth, the Gaia will pick up the other MIDI channels and play the PCM sounds built in.
Damn, I think this is the problem I’m running into... Gm piano layering over when I’m trying to trigger op1 on ch1 while Gaia on ch2. Really can’t turn that off? Huge bummer
Yes, i hate that feature.
Have you tried disabling Omni mode via MIDI?
Is there a pad sound on this?
Could someone copy the contents of the sweetwater flashdrive and post? I am buying a used one from Brazil and that would be a game changer.
👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿
Currently have a roland gaia, ive thought about selling all my synths to get a big bad poly synth and clean up my space. but, i like the roland gaia, maybe the jupiter x would do good replacing that feel? But if theres more to learn in the gaia, i cant figure out why i cant use my Faders in Midi control, maybe thats a firmware thing?
The pcm sounds accessed here are pretty cool, but theres no way to get a piano? someone has to know how to get the other sounds cause ive heard drums used and accessed through the midi channels?
The Jupiter X is so much better than GAIA that you can't even imagine. It is in another league. Jupiter X is a flagship synth, GAIA is an entry-level synth. Jupiter X also has all the factory XV-5080 sounds if that tells you anything.
Does this thing have layering like the Korg M1??
Nope. You can just use the 3 oscillators at once, but as I know there's no way to layer the sounds in the video
Try Juno DS if you love M1.
Hello fellow Liverpudlian into synths!!! Thanks for the tutorial, had a Gaia about 5 months and really love it!!! Soft synth are cool but just having a real synth to play is the best,,,
Keep up the good work....
Have you discovered the rest of the hidden PCM presets? Lots of them, but they sound dry, you need to use your own effect
These hidden sounds.. are they made with gaia?
No, these are just PCM Samples loaded into the GAIA by Roland
Thanks for this tip. I was about to post and say mine only has the "do" and not the "dat" of hidden patch #7 (7:03 ) until I realized you really have to hit the keys with a great deal of velocity to get the "dat".
Very much like the solo in the Stevie Wonder song "Stranger on the Shore" at the 4min 20sec mark: czcams.com/video/zz1VqcMaKPI/video.htmlm25s
7 wow
Why do so many people hate the GAIA so much? I never understood that.
At initial release the sound of it had overlapping problems. That was fixed via firmware later on, but the reviews were already in place. Plus the software to connect it to the PC costed additional $100 or a bit less plus the hassle to buy the thing (not downloable).
If you add the fact that many powerful features were non available on the manual or crippled on the firmware, and several ones took years to be released/informed....
That is the story.
The good side is that if you search, you for sure will find. And the potential is there; it is lighweight but somehow built like a tank plus it takes a little firmware tweaking by someone at Roland together with their online platform to wake up this dorm spaceship. No hardware fix needed because it is virtual analogue _ but not hybrid_ so plenty of room to improve.
If Roland decides to sell system upgrades, sure will be an audience for it. Within time it will happen, with Roland or not...
@@Nexando That was a detailed explaination. Thank you! :) I never heard about all these issues back then when it came out. Heard of this synth being released but didn't care so much as i wasn't in the mood for a virtual analog synth when others were starting to release all analog gear again slowly. However i was still kinda interested due to it's accessible functions on the frontpanel. This is why i even got myself one and my god, they actually fleshed out this thing at one point. Yeah the 100 bucks programmer software was Roland's biggest mistake… and their second big mistake was discontinuing the software and not even making it available for free as abandonware without updates. It sucks that i cannot even organize my patches properly or a create own arpeggio sequences without this software. Still though, you can create amazing patches even without the software. Other synthesizers were wayyy worse to handle this way. Like Akai's Miniak which i still deeply regret ever having bought and fortunately i could sell it again to someone else. I love the Gaia and have already put together a wonderful user bank of personal patches. And i actually regret not having gotten one a little earlier.. like 5 years ago or so.
It’s mostly analog purists against digital emulation (Roland calls it “virtual analog”). However, to be fair, the filter in Gaia leaves a lot to be desired if you are used to classic VCF implementations. This makes it impossible for the synth to sound like vintage Rolands. It sounds like Gaia, and has its unique character.
No mate.8 is all you get.you can modify certain parameters though not all.
This is standard for GM sounds though, as I understand.
But isn't the whole thing and all its patches from samples? I read the analog synthesis was just a marketing ploy.
Has anyone actually established that these sounds are in the GM sound set?
I read on a forum of a guy who managed to select these 8 sounds on MIDI ch.2, while running Gaia on Ch.1 while channels 3-16 responded with GM2 sounds as usual.
Perhaps these sounds are an independant PCM set of samples from somewhere else?
Check out sonic lab review of the gaia on youtube.nick batt explains it all.
@@deanbr6ndo70 thanks for the tip, that was a great review and I learned several things that I didnt lnow about on the GAIA.
I didnt really learn anything extra about the GM set and the different modes of playback, and if it is any different to any other GM sound set or module; ie - if they were standard GM set or whatever?
There is a question in my mind about the set of eight sounds recalled from the front panel via the shift key, and if you can access more of them than this, which I still am not sure of.
It's also unclear if they are, in fact, from the GM bank or if they are another set of PCM based sounds altogether.
Thanks for your input.
@@deanbr6ndo70 here is the link drano is talking about: czcams.com/video/IQLqG3MN5rE/video.html
They are 8 separate pcm sounds that roland thought would be a good idea to include,personally i think theyre a waste of time.the gm sounds are transmitted over the other 15 channels,drums being on channel 10 and channel 1 reserved for the gaia synth engine.you can only access the gm sounds via another keyboard or controller.the gm sounds are midi standard sounds.like nick batt says,it would have been better if the 3 synths of the gaia were on separate midi channels ,ie osc1 on channel 1 ,osc2 on channel 2 and osc 3 on channel 3.that would have made the gaia even more amazing.hope this helps a bit.
there are actually 128 pcm sounds
how to get to them? :)
TLDR: Press preset patch + 1 to get the sounds