Palworld is Embarrassing for Pokemon & Gamefreak
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Palworld is 13 days old... it has more than 19 million players already... and that DESTROYS almost every single Pokemon Game's LIFETIME sales! it's embarrassing & gamefreak should be ashamed, and the Pokemon company and Nintendo should take Pokemon Away from gamefreak!
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Palworld in early access is less buggy than Scarlet and Violet at launch.
Its less buggy than SV currently. Still no Patches for running just Patches for Dupe glitches.
I constantly forget this game is in early access and I rarely encounter bugs, I haven't never played Scarlet and Violet and from the videos and pics I saw, I'm glad I didn't
They update game with bug fixes every a few days and listen to people issues.
And yet people who love palworld and claim to like pokemon keep asking for a pokemon game on the scale of palworld but also say that exact thing, that SV is buggy on a handheld console. You can't have both and people who think that palworld is ANY competition to the largest franchise in the world are clueless idiots. Pokemon doesn't give two shits about palworld and if we could just let palworld be its own thing without constantly comparing the two, the better it'll be.
This will never not be embarrassingly funny to me.
I can't bear fans mounting that legendary pokemon bikes , satisfied and believed it was "a peak gaming and coolest moment" whereas here palworld's mount pals have better animation , variations and movement physics.
i miss legendaries being actual legendaries and not super easy to catch, pokemon fans have been spoilt with easy difficulty to blind them on how much Nintendo has been robbing them of a good game they used to be, I be happy Palworld is de-throneing them and givine them actual competition
Jesus.. yes! There is no comparison. Palworld hits a home run on mounts!
Oh yeah they're bikes now huh 😂
Literally I have this friend who is convinced scarlet and violet are peak gaming.
He's on such copium, basically Stockholm syndrome
koraidon and miraidon are cool😁
It's unfair that everyone's labeling this game as a carbon copy and yet there's 50 billion shooter games almost every fucking year
NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT
It unfair because it isn't even a pokemon clone tbh.
Not to mention that Fifa and Madden pretty much haven't changed anything but the rooster since 2014.
Yea there are also like 5 billion survival craft...bla-bla-bla games too...many suck...too many...just like Battle Royales...
Palworld did what pokemon couldn't.
@@CrappysHelperBe a different game?
Gamefreak should be. Palworld is the game Pokemon should be by now.
I sometimes wonder if Pokemon RPGs should be split into a classic line and modern line like Zelda, Maybe Gamefreak would do better at making oldschool pokemon games again? whilst another studio could handle the modern games
I like this idea, hope they end up doing something like this@@Clara_Page
@@Clara_Pagethey can barely handle one mainline how will they survive with 2
@@toukoenriaze9870i think you skipped their last sentence.
Another studio would handle the second series
This is what pokemon should have been 7 years ago
bro you sound like you are about to tell me a story about stanley and i love it
YES! im glad somebody else felt this.. lol
just found that channel here - stayed first for the smooth voice - stayed longer for the good analysis
"This is the story of a Videogame Franchise named Pokemon. Pokemon worked as a company in a big building. And it was Nintendo exclusive launching 427..."
you are wrong about one thing palworld is going to keep me from buying pokemon the main reason i kept up with pokemon was there was no alternative or at least none i liked
Exactly
I could not agree more with this. I was so disillusioned with Pokemon I felt like I was buying the games just to keep up. But now Palworld has like actually set me free. I've grown to disdain Pokemon because I was able to see what a handful of ragtag developers were able to do. And it runs so much better than Pokemon. Pokemon has needed to change for a long time because they're only targeting young kids as their Target base. But in this world it's adult who buy video games. Kids nowadays are just into the next battle pass.
At the very least it will keep us skiddish from just blindly jumping into the next Pokemon game hoping it's the solution. I can wait now. I can definitely wait for the reviews to speak for themselves
Same for me, backthen i preferred Digimon in many ways but all the games even today are total garbage, even worse than what pokemon has to offer, there were tons of competition over the years but when it came to games they were not even trying to be honest
Only thing i don't like in palworld are the human designs, they look out of place, i think they might aswell go the same route as they did for the monsters for consistency and make better humans than pokemon.
Which shouldn't be hard to do as the Scarlet/Violet humans most look horrible
Digimon games are great, but we need more Digimon Story games. Until Bandai Namco makes more it's on the back burner for right now for me.
As much as I love and Want Monster Rancher to come back, it won't and I have to accept it.
Yokai Watch will most likely never come back to the U.S. due to Pokemon fans rejecting it so that's out.
Coromon was cool but it wasn't doing it for me.
I've played Nexomon 1,2, and might play Nexomon 3....but I'm not that interested in it.
Palworld has me hooked for the long run, I'm invested in it now. Now I can't wait for more merch, T-shirts, cards, plushies, etc. I love Palworld now and its high time for me to move on from Pokemon, I've been a fan for 30 years and I've spent almost my whole life hoping for it to get better, it won't.
i wanna see palworld to be ported to the switch cuz that would be funny as shit
I'd probably laugh so freaking much that I'd pass out hahhahaha!
the switch will literally explode
it would melt the switch, the last gen xbox can barely run it. the switch would probly explode in someones face
@@thejoker420xp It should be able to probably handle it. My pc from 2014 is able to handle it. Game is very good optimized.
Yeah from the horrible bugs and memory leak it currently has@@khajitt
What gets me about Pokemon after Palworld is that you can use Pokemons ONLY for battling.
Never in my life hava I thought "Oh god, my pc box is filling up with Pokemons!" while playing Pokemone, I barely fill a single box. Ill be going wild if I filled up even half of the first PC box.
In Palworld I am halfway through filling up the entire Palbox. I am procrastinating on that soul harvesting thing but I need to get to it or my Palbox will be full in another 15 hours.
In just shy of 20 hours I have gotten more attached and spent more time with my Pals than I have ever been to any of my Pokemons. Its so hard for me to tear down my old bases because I dont want to rip up what me and my Pals have built.
And filling out the Pokedex? It doesnt matter at all in Pokemon, but in Palworld I am trying to catch every single mon not necessarily to fill out the dex, but because I want to see if I can use any other pal as ammunition for my rocket launcher.
Exactly. The best I can summarize how Palworld is different is that it lets you to LIVE with the Pals. The survival crafting element is only a means to that goal.
Pokemon games' interaction with mon is so cringe. U can only awkwardly feed them sandwich curry etc, and pat their head to get higher affection so they can do better in battle. After all, they are just some tools to be used for battle
In my opinion, Pokemon are more like slaves than pals in Palworld
I'm still using my Nitewing to fly around even though I'm catching much better Pals solely because I've grown attached to it (and love using the skills I taught it to strafe and bomb Pals from above)
SMT is older than pokemon and it gives you one hell of a reason to catch them all. Then I remember playing gen 4 and capturing like 40 pokemons during the main quest
@@ChibiNarutoI don’t know man I get pretty attached to my Pokémon, but i guess everyone has their own experiences
Thank you! Instead of hating on Palworld, the pokemon fans (me included) should be glad that something came along that will potentially light a fire under Game Freak's ass, and inspire them to actually do something revolutionary. But unfortunately Game Freak is limited to the hardware they can work on as well. So here's hoping the next Nintendo console is actually up to par as well. Palworld is a great game to get lost in and i can't wait for it to be finished
Limited to hardware yes, but then again, if they made another topdown, 3D pokemon game, it could look and run amazing. They should have been smart enough to know that the hardware isn't powerful enough and don't have the talent to work around it.
dunno how much about limited to hardware, TOTK did a really great job on somehow innovating botw, and it's on the dang switch
hopefully the switch 2 or whatever it's called that's supposedly has hardware akin to ps4 willl help
quit blaming the hardware, xenoblade chronicles 2, xenoblade chronicles 3, and other games are leagues beyond anything pokemon has done and they run better on switch than pokemon and their open worlds are better too. seriously have you pokemon fans clowning blaming the hardware never actually played a xenoblade game?
@@infern24 those games were great on the hardware because of the devs. i am literally saying the Game freak devs dont know how to optimize for shit, so the hardware being the limiting factor means their games usually fall flat in terms of performance. Also please dont try and defend nintendo selling what is basically a suped up tablet with none of the features for what was at the time, a ridiculous price. EVERYONE can agree the switch's hardware was not great and nintendo should do better. bringing up good examples of games that DID work on the hardware doesnt mean the hardware is acceptable at its price point and performance at this day and age of every advancing technological capabilities
The Switch is able to run TOTK, Xenoblade Chronicles, Skyrim, and other open world games with very little issue. The problem isn't hardware, it's GameFreaks complacency and laziness.
Pokemon earns 10x more in merchandising than in video game sales, so as long as the character designs hold up, GameFreak will not care about the quality of the game - especially if they keep selling the same regardless.
And I'm sure that most of that merchandising profit is likely _just_ from them exploiting gambling addicts.
True most pokemon sales is from merchandise, however the games still make up the backbone of the series, without it eventually the brand will crumble, even if it takes awhile, things like the anime is based on the games, the new pokemon is based on the games, everything with pokemon harkens back to the games.
Each video game they make is like an advertisement for the merchandise, it's much like an elevator pitch trying to convince the player to buy the merchandise, Josh strife Hayes has a very good video on the subject for further details, but to summarize if the games don't make a good first impression than there won't be a incentive to buy a plushie of a pokemon. Plus people are more likely to buy what they have an emotional attachment too, so even if the new pokemon designs are good, it's unlikely people will buy merchandise of them if they don't care or know about them because they didn't play or like the games. This applies to the anime too, however unlike the games the anime is actually good including its new seasons so it's more effective than the games in that regard.
( edit, to give an example of what I mean about the merchandise thing, you can look at examples like Rick and Morty, back when it was popular and when the show was good merchandise flew off the shelves, now they end up rotting in warehouses, and on the flipside you can look at fnaf which is doing very well in merch sales because the core content is still popular, debatable if it's good though, now while pokemon is still popular its public perception is waning which is why it's important they release a good game)
Also it's debatable if alot of new pokemon designs are any good, of course there is some new memorable designs, but for every one of those there's like 5 new forgettable pokemon, at least in my opinion, obviously taste is subjective so it's okay if you disagree.
@@legobrick1356*cough* pokemon cards *cough*
The footage of this unhinged motorcycle pokemon deeply offends me on a personal level.
Instead of mounting existing pokemon, they made two abominations specifically to be mounts, ew
Agree. The motorcycle pokemon really trips me up when looking at footage of this game. Seeing that made me feel like it's a low quality early access game made with Unity.
@@JVCA44it really highlights the issue with the games and how Palworld just does things differently. Lots of pals can be ridden in Palworld, and they feel natural and not look out of place when you mount them.
@@_brutalista it's even looking like from someone learning how to make a motorcycle in Unity.
Palworld does literally everything I've wanted from pokemon. Even things that I didn't know how they could be executed.
I've been scratching that itch with Pixelmon before Palworld came around.
The interaction with the Pals is something that's going to make it really hard to go back to Pokemon.
I’ve been saying this for years as well; Gamefreak is not a AAA studio, they’re just responsible for one of the biggest game franchises of all time
Pocketpair is not an AAA studio, they just happen to be responsible for one of the biggest games of all time on steam and xbox
This is true. The most popular pokemon game is probably Pokemon Go, a phone app. Which was not made by game freak. Pokemon makes most of it's money from liciencing and toys sales and stuff. If Palworld paid them licensing fees, would they even care if it crushed Gamefreak? Which would be kind of ironic since gamefreak helped to create pokemon.
They are a AAA studio; it's just they're showing us the failings what typical AAA studios are.
Not quite, Gamefreak is a studio failing to live up to the potential or even come anywhere near the full potential of the best idea in video game history.
@@CrappysHelper Gamefreak has about 169 employees as of 2022 they outsource majority of their 3D assets to 3rd party companies since they don't have a lot of people that know 3D on their teams ( majority of them are 2D artist/Sprite artist) Yeah that company is "AAA" when was the last time they pushed hardware. Gamefreak does not even have the kind of team to even be considered AAA.
Pokemon fans will be maf at this video.
*because the truth has been spoken.*
Most pokemon fans love Palworld...I'd rather not associate with the insane twitter pokemon tourists.
Palworld is the first iteration of pokemon I've paid for since Moon. I hate the complicit state of GameFreak and I'm voting with my wallet!
It's not that I hate it, I dislike the hate that's going to Game Freak, rather than The Pokemon Company. They're the ones that want that yearly release schedule and it's Game Freak that doesn't get the time, resources or freedom to expand on whole Pokemon world idea. The games just go hand in hand with whatever the plan is for the series. Same with people hating on Nintendo on this. This is the rare exlusive franchise where they just publish and don't have any hand in. Not calling them saints but on the matter of Palworld neither Nintendo or Game Freak are not to blame for this. Yearly release just stagnated progress in Pokemon and this is something the dev doesn't have any accountability in. Let's be honest, pumping something out like this on a yearly basis isn't doable.
I consider myself a Pokemon fan, even though i havent been enjoying the franchise for almost a decade now!
People who defend whatever Gamefreak puts out these days arent even fans imo, they dont even care, they dont want the franchise to do better, they just here to eat and eat and eat.
It's Nintendo fanboys mad about Palworld. True Pokemon fans have been wanting a game like this for a decade.
Honestly. As long as Nintendo has sales like the ones for Scarlet and Violet they don't change. I think they try it again. Next game is even more buggy.
The sheer lack of 3D experience GF has (due to poor oversight) means they've had to do more outsourcing than ever, which can't help. It's really hard to make clean code when completely different teams are contributing to it. 'Not an excuse - an explanation'. (somewhat).
And one of the main reasons for their laziness is because those dumbass Pokemon fans keep rooting for GF and hand out their money no matter how bad the new Pokemon looks. Despite seeing Palworld success, the fans are still defending them
Pokemon Legends Arceus would have been a mega hit if Game Freak Co developed it with From Software. Real dodge challenges and catching mechanics, maybe some advanced stealth mechanics.
😂😂😂 now I'm just Imagining wearing spiked armor and running into Pokémon.
You don't need that from another company like fromsoftware. Pokemon just needs to up their game and realize how to take their beloved franchise to the next level.
They tried going with the "Pokémon are dangerous and attack humans!" thing like it was groundbreaking but in the end it's always the same milquetoast bread sandwich of "Ooh Pokémon are friends and you are stronger because you treat them with love and blah blah blah"
Meanwhile Palworld lets you make your Pals work in inhumane conditions and dispose of them when they're too weak to work. Or build them a nice spa and feed them the best food you can produce. You get a fucking CHOICE.
Scarlet and violet took 6 months to get 20m+
Palworld got half of that within 2 weeks (steam numbers alone cuz xbox is finicky)
Imagine when is available on PS5 and Nintendo
@@PinkPuddinClipsIt probably won't ever be on Switch. Nintendo will block it.
@@crazydude5825 it wouldn't run on the switch i bet.... hell the switch 2 will be iffy
I'm paying and I'm 55 it's a lot of fun so I bought it on Game pass☺️
Sucker Punch making a Pokémon game would be incredible. nice vid
I call your sucker punch and raise the suggestion of a fromsoft studios pokemon title.
@@chemislifeAlright but I'm only paying for the first five bosses since that's as far as I'll ever get.
@@chemislifesure, give me anything BUT gamefreak. They are just gnna drop another shitty remake
Palworld = $29, game
Pass ult is 16 per month… if this game just increases GPU subscriptions MS made out, if it leads to uptick in consoles sales MS drove up profit immensely!
The way you talk and your delivery is always incredibly engaging.
And the points you highlight come across very well thought out and deliberate.
That's the plan. So cheers.
I 100% agree with this. Especially the Gamefreak part.
Like Wizards of the Coast did with Baldurs Gate IP, they got another studio to do it, and Larian did an incredible job.
Palworld to me is a perfectly formulated memento mori laid at gamefreak's feet, a grim and well deserved reminder that everything pokemon has built throughout it's almost 30 year existence as a multi media leviathan of a franchise could come crashing down before gamefreak's very eyes should they continue to be so maliciously complacent with their stale unchanging game design. The foundations pokemon is built on are rotting and we may be reaching the point where it won't need to be some other big corpo with loads of money to finally break those foundations with a big expensive wrecking ball of a game, it could just be like 10 people in a small company with sledgehammers that finally deliver that final killing blow that pokemon can't recover from. helps that the game is pretty decent too.
Very well written 10/10
To be fair the games were never really the major revenue stream for pokemon. There are a lot of pokemon fans who never even played the gamefreak games before, from watching the tv show or movies, or playing pokemon games outside of gamefreak. Apparently even the card games make almost half as much as the games do. So even if the games died, it wouldn't kill pokemon. I doubt palworld is going to make palworld movies and plushies, and a card game.
@@Lilitha11 that is true, but at least right now without the games there is no new pokemon and with no new pokemon there is no new merch and thus revenue will drop unless they just start adding new pokemon via the card game, show or plushies. If people stop buying the games I do think it will be harder for them to form that personal connection between people and certain pokemon that sells those big merch numbers. I do agree though that it wouldn't kill pokemon if the games died at least maybe not right away and yeah I SINCERELY doubt we're gonna be seeing official Relaxasaurus plushies anytime soon. Overall I just find myself wondering how long they can keep just spinning the wheel like this. My favorite game of all time is Pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky and it's just genuinely infuriating to watch Nintendo, gamefreak and pokemon company just waste the true potential of this already golden goose of a franchise.
This is wake up call Gamefreak has just gone through the motions since XY
Gamefreak is good at making 2D pixel games. Nintendo has been making a circle peg try to fit into a square hole since X and Y.
I started to play Palworld 3 Days ago.
Now i can´t stop playing it.
40 hours of gameplay already and this says a lot about this game.
My main gripes with modern Pokemon, is that they feel dated when they come right out the gate, both visually and mechanically.
We have Scarlet and Violet coming out and they look like they're 5-7yrs out of date, while also playing in a rather janky manner, while Palworld is a game in early access that has expectations to be jank and yet it still feels less disjointed than S&V still is.
Also at this point I'm beyond done with Pokemon picking up a gimmick and abandoning it by the next game, or the fact that their franchise is still turn based. I'd kill for a Pokemon game that's got visuals better than the tripe that is S&V, and have actual real time battles and real exploration, but Gamefreak won't do that, and Nintendo won't fund for it either, because they know die hard Ninty fans will lap up less and pay more for it.
This is why Palworld is going to win, because it's a combination of ideas Nitnendo cba to combine in the first place and they've become fart too complacent in the mon game for decades now.
I used to be a fan of Pokemon since Red & Blue, but hopped off around Sun & Moon, because I got fed up with how repetitive and stale the franchise had gotten by then.
Honestly the RPG system of Pokemon is FIne wine.. BEFORE SwSh Tore it to shreads ripping moves and abilities and 80% of all pokemon out of the code. But Real time battles Are where it is at. Even the Digimon World games had it... if horridly implemented.... it still did that in ps1 days. Palworld only made that kind of battle better than Next Orders System.
5 to 7 years? Isn't that the age range they aim for? 😁
"This is why Palworld is going to win"
Win what exactly? They aren't competition and Palworld isn't stealing any customers because it's two separate platforms and genres. As a pokemon fan since the originals, I don't want my pokemon ANYWHERE like palworld, just want the open world and catching. No guns, no dumb survival unless it makes sense within pokemon till you reach the next town, I don't want my pokemon to labor away. Palworld is ark with a pokemon mod, I've literally felt like I played the game before.
If SV are so buggy, you Really Really think they can pull off something on the scale of palworld and it not be a disaster? In order to do that they need to come out with either a stronger console or be on PC and currently they aren't doing either. The switch is showing its age. It can't do much more.
@shadowshatto Palworld IS competition for pokemon, but not in ways that are obvious at first glance. Firstly and most importantly it shows players what pokemon can be. Even if pokemon fans don't play Palworld it's still likely to leave an impression given just how popular it has become.
Secondly many people who do own a switch also own something like a computer or Xbox, like bare minimum most people own a computer at least for office or work related reasons. And those who do own a switch only are either children which shouldn't really matter in this case as most don't have disposable income to even buy a new pokemon game, or they are simply casual gamers, in either case while both make up some game sales. The main audience who buys pokemon games are adults, and given most pokemon players are adults, majority of them are going to want a more refined and mature pokemon game which Game Freak is not delivering , thus leading to sales twords games like Palworld which scratches that itch. That is one of the major reasons it blew up actually is because it gives players what pokemon won't. And the sales numbers speak for themselves with a ton of sales for Palworld in such a short period of time. So yes it is competition for pokemon.
And while the switch's hardware is indeed outdated, it can still run some impressive games, such as breath of the wild , xenoblade, skyrim. Too name a few examples. Pokemon could do that too, it's just simply incompetence and inexperience that holds them back, the reason the optimization on recent pokemon games are so bad is because firstly they have little experience with 3D games, but also because the way they handle pokemon on a technical level is keeping them all loaded beneath the map so they can be called forward when needed, which might I say is super inefficient and outdated. Due to this scarlet and violet and previous games are laggy. Among other technical reasons.
I jumped off at a similar time after being disappointed with Sun and Moon.I did play Let's Go Pikachu which is a watered down Pokemon Yellow and Arceus which was a decent game but nothing amazing.
Palworld looks like something that could be fun for a little while I like most of the monster designs.Even if I'm not a fun of survival crafting open world games it looks fun enough.
Honestly, I'd like to see Genius Sonority have a crack at the series again. They developed Pokémon Colosseum and XD for the GameCube, and I think they did a great job at making something that was a different take on the series' usual formula.
HARD NO. Genius Sonority is not the same company now than the one that made Collosseum & XD GoD... NOW they have 22 employees, and the last pokemon things they made were all GARBAGE mobile games, Pokemon Cafe Mix, Pokémon Shuffle, Pokémon Battle Trozei
@@BluntyTV Oh, no. I had no idea they had fallen that far. What a shame.
As an early 90s guy. I remember how excited I was when I got Pokémon Blue as a kid. Here we are over 20 years later and barely any changes to the game is pretty disappointing. I believe if they didn’t drop so many titles and focused on being innovative then it would be an even bigger phenomenon
They actually have been regressing in terms of content since the 3ds.
@@CrappysHelper I stopped playing for a while after Pokémon black & white. Once the switch came out, I thought it was great but then they just kept dropping and turned me off again
I've actually heard a TON of want for an open world survival Pokémon game, but I've also circled those genres a great deal (been playing pokemon since before english release of rby) When i played ark EVERYONE would talk for hours about the idea of ark pokemon, when i played minecraft everyone wanted an official survival open world pokemon game. which is why pixelmon which first came out in 2012 is one of the most popular, well supported and updated minecraft mods) all my friends have been hoping pokemon would finally break away and do something bigger.
I can't remember a survival game i've played where SOMEONE didn't say "man wouldn't it be amazing if there were a pokemon game like this?
Hell, the idea was so big that World of Warcraft introduced a whole Pokémon training and battle system with their pets because it was such a common thing "pokemon the rpg"
I also remember during the great lisa frank pokemon overlap in the late 90's early 2000's how badly everyone wanted a dolphin pokemon and it only just happened this gen (how i SHRIEKED when i found palafin, and litteraly kicked my husbands door in to show him) I didn't even like dophins that much but it has been in the back of my mind for over 20 years.
When I was listening to the concept of legends arcius a toned down palworld is what I was expecting, combat wise. But we only got dodging and no personal assistance in combat. I was hoping the next game would expand on that idea, but they just went back to milking the franchise so I turned away again.
Ok hear me out
If game freak finally admits that they can't make Pokemon games anymore and they just aren't capable enough a Nintendo needs to go to a third party developer to make Pokemon games imagine if they got Square Enix to make a Pokemon game but go back to traditional pixel art in the style of octopath traveler though
That actually sounds really cool, however given game freak owns pokemon, not Nintendo, it would have to be a choice game freak makes which seems unlikely given how much of a cash cow pokemon is for game freak
No way.
I’m never buying any Square Enix games ever again after that company used Ubitis and put the Kingdom Hearts games on the Switch as a Cloud Version which is why I bought SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake instead of Live A Live,
People working at Square Enix were slacking off.
As a lifetime Pokemon fan, able to remember when Pokemania first took the world by storm, I agree wholeheartedly. I quit the mainline and even the spin offs after Sun and Moon due to the atrocious writing quality.
However, Nintendo and Gamefreak are only paying attention to their Japanese player base, who's satisfied with just catching more monsters.
I think the aspect fans wanted and have been asking for is not any of the things you mentioned, it is using the monsters for everyday tasks.
You can see it in the anime, and hear about it in the games, but never partake, yourself.
Palworld does a lot towards helping make this feel like a reality.
While still missing some more "feel good" aspects that have sometimes been shown by working with monsters, no other monster collecting game (to my knowledge) have even really tried to have them use their natural abilities to make everyday living on the players part more convenient.
That was what people wanted. They wanted their dreams of pokemon being real as a kid realized somehow. And I bet the dreams didn't start and end at battling.
I havent played the newer pokemons to make a comparison but i have played starfield and i have to say that i was surprised to see palworld less buggy than a tripleA game. They did a great job for what it currently is.
Palworld is awesome and whilst it might not be a "pokemon clone" as many have called it it has the essence that I've been looking for in a pokemon game for the longest time, the sense of adventure, actually feeling like I'm working with my pal-mons (as I call them) to fight a long side them, work on a home base and navigate the terrain in an organic way.
I've slowly been losing faith in the pokemon franchise, the uninspired BD/SP ports and horiffically unpollished S/V were the final nails in the coffin as far as I was concerned, ruining my most anticipated remakes and what potential steps forwards had been made with Arceus.... sorry rant over.
I really hope Palworld gives them the kick they need to restratagise how they make and publish future pokemon games
disagree completely. scarlet and violet are perfectly enjoyable the way they are. games don’t have to be 60 fps to be enjoyable.
The spirit of adventure is a huge hit point for Palworld and I've been waiting for Pokemon games to capture that again for a long, long time.
@@gothard5 I agree that games dont need to be 60fps to be enjoyable, it really depends on the genre. However I do like my 30fps games to have a reasonably smooth performance and to be somewhat optimised for release... not something i could say for pokemon V&S in my personal experince of trying to play it
Hard pill to swallow even as a Pokémon fan, I have to agree with you. It’s just an empty shell and lacks depth , detail, mystery, etc. it once had.
Palworld is the Pokemon game I've dreamed about since I was 12.
Emerald sold the least because it was the third version of the third gen when Pokemon hype was dying down. I think wifi compatibility with 4th gen actually saved the franchise.
Imagine a pokemon rangers game during the pokemon war that plays like palworld. Like shit that's be great
I have only seen one other game come close to Palworld's battle mechanics and that was Azure dreams on the gameboy color. It was one of my favorite games and to see something bring it to modern standards is wonderful.
I hope we see a new age of creature collectors.
To be fair, 19 million sales destroys almost ever single game's lifetimes sales, not just Pokemon ones.
i love that people are saying that this is a pokemon copy but its just ARK with pokemons
That's like basically saying call of duty and battlefield are carbon copies of medal of honors which they pretty much are
"We don't have to try hard. It will sell, anyway." -developers employed at GameFreak and The Pokémon Company.
I likely paraphrased it, but that was basically in one of the employee reviews made about the company.
Also, if I recall correctly, Palworld was made with a budget of approximately $10,000 (USD). Compare that with the modern Pokémon games.
Pokemon fans were asking for a Skyrim kind of game but instead with Pokemon.
Lots of the "Wanting a Game Like This" was not the crafting survival but more adult themed that was hinted as being in the pokemon world since Lt. Surge way way back. We got such a babied down world in pokemon games that its like cognitive dissidence just playing it.
This is only 60% feature complete?!
Look up Early Access.
Well.. the current version is v0.1.4.0, and a release version is usually v1.0, by that logic, there's a long road ahead of us.
Palworld came out of nowhere for me. I’ve played since Red/Blue, played several of the games for a total of more than 3,000 hours over the years. Legends: Arceus was innovative and new, but still didn’t feel as new and fresh and fun as Palworld does. Now I can play alongside my friends, not just duel or trade them occasionally. This is much better, much newer, and it’s a breath of fresh air. It might even rekindle my interest in the older titles. Hey, maybe GameFreak might do a phone release like FF has been doing, and get some old school market share back that way for the nostalgia of it.
And if they launch on PS4 and PS5 i'm sure the numbers will be even bigger
Probably, I'm not sure if pocketpair have any form of exclusivity contract so they might actually release on Playstation eventually, don't qoute me on that though.
Problem is that even if nintendo wanted to make a palworld like game it wouldnt run well on the switch.
You haven’t played xenoblade have you
The Switch can run beautiful games like Monster Hunter, Xenoblade, DOOM, Metroid Prime remastered, and Tears of the Kingdom. It's not a hardware issue, it's a company management issue.
You know what, if every mainline generation of Pokemon has to have two or three versions, why not use that as an opportunity? Make them entirely separate games by separate studios, joined on the assortment of collectable monsters and cross-play elements. See if people like Pokemon Hide, where you build bases, or Pokemon Seek, where you go get a bunch of crafting materials in the wild. Take those chances and see what players want, instead of just what they'll settle for.
Or just hand the franchise over to Genius Sonority for a while, Colosseum and XD were brilliant.
all I want are the original Pokemon Games, Red, Blue, Yellow, even all the games up to Ruby and Sapphire in modern 3d graphics, open world, and with Pokemon Battle Stadium style Combat. Why is it the Pokemon Games don't seem to progress very far.
Gamefreak should let Pocket Pair take the wheel.
Honestly, I like the turn based battle system more when it comes to fights. I've played enough Pixelmon for the transition to not bother me in a survival game. I'd like some sort of Pal Stadium where tamers can engage in a fight that either puts them into a turn based battle, or a battle where they watch from above and select moves as if on a mount.
I played a bit of the Violet DLC but got bored during the scavenger hunt. I still haven't gone back.
Pokemon Legends arceus was a lite version of Palworld without the survival aspects. I want another story-driven game like Colosseum and XD. I hope pokemon can do better. Was massively disappointed with the Diamond and Pearl remakes too. Hated the art style.
I'm not loud on social media, in fact, The only social media account I have is CZcams, but I have in fact been wanting a pokemon survival game for quite a while. I loved the secret base mechanic in Emerald, and Arceus is hands down my favorite pokemon game to this point. The fact that you had to craft your own supplies was amazing! It got really close to a survival game. Anyways, I do want that experience from pokemon and your right that Palworld isn't going to stop me from playing it. Whether Pokemon adds survival mechanics or not though, I just hope the competition spurs them on to do better. Scarlett and Violet were absolutely a disappointment and backslide as you said.
I think one of the reasons Palworld is selling well is exactly that it's not called Pokemon. If something is called Pokemon, it instantly becomes niche and most people (at least in the West) will ignore it outright. But a crafting/survival game with goofy animals that can help you do stuff... hell yeah, bring it on!
I love this whole situation of Nintendo getting humbled, they for a while now have always had this condescending attitude that they always know best and know what "fun" is supposed to be but whenever there's a flaw in their games seemingly everyone defending it acted as if flaws didn't exist and pretty much say we have no right in criticizing them.
Now here comes this far smaller studio and shows everyone how its done and that's glorious to see
I think the release schedule for Pokémon games is taking its toll on the franchise. The developers can only do so much in two years with how complex AAA games are expected to be nowadays. Open world games even more so.
Yeah, but that isn't an excuse. They are choosing to rush the games. They don't have to.
Sorry But I disagree as a LIFETIME pokemon Fan THIS IS what i wanted for AGES. 3d big Alive World, Realtime Battles with more simplistic commands, REAL MULTIPLAYER, Unique Mons, GOOD ANIMATIONS, GREAT LOOK, Runs Great, The only thing next is Direct Control of the Pals In a Battle Arena Mode As it is with Mounts we are Half way there. Sure we Sacrificed Turn based Combat(For now) But Palworld has become a True Pokemon game. The Base Building and Production side of it is just an Extra Bonus.
The only knock i have is the Lore of the Humans is Thin... still way more than recent Pokemon has given us, And more structured areas IE not wilderness and Real Cities but given how they already made the Small Villages and Towns more populated than you expect while also using environmental story telling and NPC lines to boost the SURVIVAL aspect of it. Its Damn good. Pizza man FTW.
Honestly if GameFreak's role merely became monster and character design we'd probably have the best of both worlds.
If Nintendo had a brain they'd acquire PocketPair to make this a reality and everyone would win.
Palworld executed what Pokemon lazily, and greedily failed to do, and they're livid about it
Ever since long before Pixelmon (the minecraft pokemon mod) people have been begging for a proper pokemon survival craft.
I've seen it quite a few times but personally been wanting it longer than that.
The issue with pixelmon is it felt like they where just there... they didn't interact with the gameplay, they didn't attack the player or mine, or fight outside of the player attacking them
It felt more like a survivalcraft game, that just so happen had pokemon added after.
Mad potential in this game, not only it looks really fun but it could create an entire genre of games based on pokemon but actually innovative.
i mean it took some dude to make a mod of Pokémon Fusion to get a bunch of people to be excited for a Pokémon game to be really good again and to get people that normally don't talk about or play Pokémon to get them to play Pokémon, that should tell you everything you need to know about the current state of Pokémon
I think the coolest best part of Pokemon undeniably, still to this day is.. the way you can transfer mon's from... I believe it started in Gen 3? Gen 2 and maybe 1 remake has it, where you have a second console, trade and transfer from your GBA to your DS, for instance... Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire had this ribbon achievement thing where your pokemon was from the very original Ruby/Sapphire, that means, they moved their pokemon from Gen 3 > Gen 4 > Gen 5 > Gen 6 (not sure if it must be X/Y or it can move from black/white to ORAS) ... the way it handles that is kind of amazing and impressive, annoying but seamless in old hardware. While it was exploitable with hackers to make perfect pokemon... it's undeniably a cool feature, and it's the only feature I think is somewhat worth keeping, but, at this rate, I'd even discard that for a completely new game on the table.. don't necessarily have to because they have/had pokebank and pokehome.. my biggest move was Soul Silver Lugia n stuff to Omega Ruby, having to complete the games was annoying cause I don't like Gen 5 and it was the only way.
I'm surprised to hear Emerald sold the least, being one of the best. Pokemon doesn't need guns, it needs innovation, and I'd prefer they discard the turn base at least for one game to see how it turns out.. they already did this with Brilliant Diamond Shining Pearl, unity games that don't do what I just mentioned apparently..if they can happily make junk like that, I don't think for once, a non-turn based game release would hurt them... it wouldn't. Final Fantasy made their ESRB to M and it didn't hurt lol, but Pokemon would never go T or M.
Idk the transfer system is less of an inspiration and more of a symptom of the hindrances they were working with ... As well as being able to be greedy by selling the same game 2-3 times
Arceus was lacking so much meat on the bone.. I never figured out how anyone liked it
I love turn based combat, but it doesn't work for the 3D, open world Pokemon. It breaks up the gameplay. Palworld works so well because of the real time combat mixed with open worlds, and base building.
Tears of the Kingdom on the Nintendo Switch PROVES the Switch has the hardward capabilities to do it! Gamefreak is just lazy and likes to cash in their Pokemon check every year and knowing we show up to pay it regardless what gabage they put out.
I think a big part of the reason why Gamefreak's games have been so lackluster is because of the larger business model around Pokemon. Last I heard, the sales of the games themselves only make up 18% of the total revenue. Anime, merchandise, cards, etc. make up the rest. Those projects can't launch until the new Pokemon game launches, and as such, Gamefreak is severely constrained by time. That's not an excuse so much as it is the sad reality of large corporations. Anyway, Palworld is awesome, and a little healthy competition is good for the consumers. Perhaps the Pokemon Company will sit up and take notice. After all, the only guarantor of success is a quality product that people want to buy.
Well that’s the problem.
Game Freak only has 169 employees and they aren’t stepping up their game,
The Pokémon company and Game Freak needs to slow down and move their generation production from three years to four or five years.
Honestly I've just been wanting forever for Pokemon to be made into a mmorpg computer game. Imagine just being able to go to all regions and finally have a full Pokemon map displaying it all. It would also be cool if they could make it so you could choose sprite, 3d models etc.
The 10th generation is coming so they might finally be persuaded into making something good. 😅
The Arceus pokedex was brilliant.
It gave me a reason to catch pokemon.
Instead, i just run past pokemon on Violet. I caught a pokemon, evolved it twice, and dumped it in a box, never to be used again.
The only thing that keeps me playing is i am 631 pokemon into my shinydex
The fact that Gamefreak devs cant develop a modern games aside... Gamefreak/Nintendo so far had absolulty no reason to put any effort into Pokemon games for about 15 years now, they are simply too big to fail. They dont have to evolve, because the only reason these games and the anime exist, is to promote the Pokemon franchise as a whole. it simply is better to do quicker releases, so the brand feels "active" and "modern" instead of developing one games for 4-7years like Zelda or the Xenoblade games. If the pokemon-games were developed for around 5-6 years and were fantastic, bugfree and sold 50-70mio copies, they would stil lose more money, compared to releaseing 2-3 games in the same timespan... simply due to less sold merch
Palworld is the “Baby Ruth” of video games from what I can tell.
Nintendo and Game Freak deserve this humiliation.
Palworld is what pokemon games should’ve been, palworlds monsters have more soul and feel more natural than any recent Pokemon game. The creatures actually interact with the world and u can see 2 random mons fighting each other and actually behaving like creatures instead of just standing and walking around slowly in a large area. Obviously palworld could have more depth but it’s a small team, while pokemon the largest franchise has no excuse for not making their game not feel immersive. (I’m not saying pokemon games need guns and needs to turn into a survival game just saying it needs to feel like an adventure instead of a chore)
I just want a pokemon game that feels close to the anime in terms of exploration/adventure, a sense of danger when trying to catch wild pokemon and maybe real time combat? (Nothing is wrong with turn based but it would be nice for a change)
Good it's about time somebody puts Nintendo in their place! I'm glad Nintendo can finally feel how some of us feel about all the crap they do to us after we spend our hard earned money on their freaking games!
I honestly lost interest in pokemon once they started removing good features post black and white. Palworld isn't the kind of game I'm after given I didn't enjoy ARK but I'm really hoping the competition and comparisons will kick the pokemon company into PERHAPS raising the budget, dev time and EFFORT in future games.
I just want no gimmick pokemon battles or at least megas back, Urshifu nerfed and an actual postgame
I love how people are constantly misinformed about The Pokemon Company and Gamefreak. They are one and the same. TPC is made up of three other companies to control Pokemon. Nintendo, Creatures Inc. and Gamefreak. That is why it is so hard to tell Gamefreak to stop, they own it, they’re too stubborn and full of themselves to admit they suck at this and ask for outside help. Even when Ilca did BDSP someone from Gamefreak was looking over their shoulder telling them how they wanted the game to be, despite early concept art showing Ilca had a completely different vision for the remakes. Gamefreak is and abusive father milking Pokemon for all its value without letting it grow and evolve. Gamefreak will probably always be involved until it’s no longer profitable.
All that said I am happy to see someone else call out the hardware BS argument Pokemon fans make for why it’s not good.
Shit changes sometimes mate. That's what I'm talking about. I want shit to CHANGE. you're talking about how shit is NOW.
Given how when Bandai came in for New Snap and Pokken working with TPC and Creatures the pumped New snap out years ahead of schedule and Infamously stated they didn't have to make a SINGLE ANIMATION for the game because Creatures Inc already did. Game Freak will always be the weak point of the chain. They Simple SUCK at making ANY GAME and even with insane amounts of resources THEY EFFING SUCK.
@@snintendog I know they do, which makes the situation worse since it's going to be near impossible to boot them out, they are the Original Owners of the IP, they are 1/3rd of TPC, I'm sure Nintendo and Creatures Inc can't legally do anything about it easily, not that they even want to, the games still rake in millions as people are insane enough to buy anything Pokemon related just because it's pokemon. The entire Sword and Shield controversy should have been a huge effing wake up call to them but they decided to not only lie through their teeth and ignore the outrage, but continue on like it never happened with Arceus and S/V. If you want stuff to change, do not buy their games, wait and see how they respond to PalWorld on Pokemon Day with their Presents. I'm not expecting anything to change.
"People weren't actually asking for palworld." Gamers never know what they want until they have it. Pokemon fans have been wanting a game like Palworld (clearly) even if they haven't been specifically asking for this particular combination of game mechanics for the last 2 decades.
"What about Legends Arceus?" Legends Arceus was well received and greatly enjoyed. However, it's a spinoff series, so even though it did do well, and pokemon fans largely enjoyed it, your more average gamer is just going to wait for those good features to get wrapped up into the mainline series ("if it's so good"). Gamefreak messed it up in Scarlet and Violet though, maintaining their track record of two decades of stagnant game design.
You know what doesn't have two decades of stagnant design philosophy smearing its name through the dirt? Palworld.
People have wanted a game like PalWorld. You saying they never explicitly stated it, is basicly just giving Ammunition to give them alil shielding or excuse.
Like playing both sides when there is no both sides.
People wanted something like PalWorld that gave the freedom of exploration, they just never said their open secret desires out loud.
Except that the main cities would exist, wilds will exist, Battles/Gyms will exist(action/turnbased/both).
Less focus on Survival/Crafting/Base Building for sure, but still the same
When people say Palworld is the Pokemon game they have been asking for, I think they mean it in a more general way: Fun! Forget about specific mechanics, they mean a fun game they can play with friends.
I've been waiting for GameFreak to release a competent game since Sun/Moon. PocketPair beat them to it. Simple.
You know what I want? I want someone to make mix between Pokemon and a farming sim like Stardew Valley in a open world setting, for more chill fans of monster catching games. I love the idea of Palworld, but I think would cool to see people be inspired by mixing genres in this manner to create new paths for quality experiences.
Pokemon needs competition. Their games are a total joke considering that Pokemon is the biggest i.p. of all time.
This is the game I think that people have wanted for so long. Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee were IMO the most innovative games we've seen from GameFreak in years. This is what I have wanted: Open World, real time combat, riding and walking with your Pokemon, fighting along side your pokemon. Legends Arceus BARELY addressed these, and was still poorly executed IMO. The survival crafting aspect may be something unexpected, but highly welcomed. Sometimes consumers don't know exactly what they want, but they know the feeling of what they expect. Palworld is the pokemon game people have been wanting for a long time, it's just not exactly what people expected.
Palworld isn't what Pokémon should be, but rather the BARE MINIMUM of quality and creativity that Pokémon games should have. It isn't base building or guns or anything like that Pokémon games need, it is passion to make something that is unforgettable (or at least trying to not recycle the same stale format for decades). Imagine co-op tag team fights? Being able to climb, swim, and go wherever you want? Having team rocket be a recurring enemy that you can reduce the presence of by beating their region leaders (like Far Cry games for example)? Besides catching them all, you should also feel like you are going on a grand adventure that shapes the world around you, with your goals and imagination being the limit.
I, honestly, hate the look of the bike pokemon. It just....looks artificial
At least once a year I hear someone say: "A Pokémon MMO would make millions, and millions of dollars." Palworld is the closest thing we have what a Pokémon MMO could look like. And it took the gaming world by a landslide.
people keep getting angry at palworld for "copying" pokemon but no one talks about how pokemon copied dragon quest
those pokemon "fans" are insufferable
Whoever these people are, they're certainly not Pokémon fans. If you know the Pokémon community, then you'll know we love all monster taming games.
Honestly, I think this video was interesting. Personally I haven’t played any Pokémon except for maybe five minutes in because I couldn’t get past the reading exam lol🤷
So I only understand the Palworld side of things so watching this video at least somewhat helps me understand both sides very least gives me additional information of both sides🤷
So, in all honesty, I like the video good job 🙂👍
The side to side footage gameplay you show speaks louder than words.
I found myself staring more at the palworld side without even noticing.
And i know for a fact the pokemon one wasnt cherry picked because that's really what most of the playtime of scarlet/violet looks like
I just want an official Pokemon MMO.
*Palworld punches ash in a middle of a monster battle*
Ash : Hey, we're not supposed to fight.
Palworld Trainer : We aren't? Are we just supposed to stand around while our animals fight for us?
Ash : Yes!
Palworld Trainer : That doesn't sounds very nice; I thought you were a team!
Ash : We are! We go through all fights together.
Palworld Trainer : No, Pikachu goes through all fights while you watch.
Taichi : Yeah that was always strange. Why don't you fight with your buddy?
Ash : It's against the rules! It's not like you can just walk up to a giant chicken and punch him.
Marcus Damon from Digimon Savers : ... Yes you can?
(P.s. this is just a joke, I love palworld, pokemon (been a fan since the 1st anime aired btw and pokemon yellow) and digimon. I also would of added other monster fighting games like Monster Rancher, Final Fantasy Legends 2 or Bomberman Tournament or Mobile Beasts Telefang; but I doubt many people would get the references and Digimon was the more commonly known Monster battler besides pokemon).
I can't speak for everyone who has said that Palworld is what I wanted Pokemon to be, but when I do, I mean that more from a "living world" perspective than a strict gameplay perspective. When I was kid I wanted to play Pokemon like Ash battled Pokemon in the anime. I wanted to make my Pokemon dodge attacks and land attacks in a way that feels more satisfying than a textbox excitedly telling you that your fire attack was indeed effective against a grass type for the billionth time. I wanted to figure out ways to make combos in combat, and maybe even figure out ways to exploit the environment to my advantage in battle. I've been playing a rock-paper-scissors simulator for over 20 years. I'm over it.
Sure, Palworld doesn't 100% deliver on that, but it's a hell of a lot closer than Pokemon has ever gotten. Even Legends: Arceus.
"Fans have been asking for this for years" isn't referring to the survival aspect.
What does Palworld let you do with your Pals?
You can battle alongside them, ride them, have them help out in the base, etc. You can breed Pals for specific Jobs, like breeding down speed passives for a mount Pal or defensive passives for a tank Pal. Pal's in the wild can attack you directly, and you can attack them directly in return. You feel like a participant in the world, rather than some omniscient background force that orders the Pals around. I mean, lets be real. When you catch a monster, why do you suddenly know which four attacks it knows and can order it to use them? Pal's know what attacks they have, and will use them accordingly. Yes, you do know what they have access to as soon as you catch them, but since you can't order them to use any attacks it feels more natural. This even extends into Pal's not always learning the same moves on level up, and the skill fruits being able to give ANY Pal ANY attack.
THAT is what we've been wanting from a Pokemon game. We want to feel like we're a part of the world. These creatures are meant to be our friends, that we bond with and grow alongside. But gameplay-wise, all we do is catch them and order them to battle.
Legends Arceus was so popular because it gave us a TASTE of what we wanted. Palworld, however, has presented us with the entire dish. The whole meal. And then we find out that it was actually just the starter and first course? There's going to be MORE after this?!
Honestly, I don't care much for the survival aspect. It's fun in its own right, but Pokemon doesn't need to adopt that. Let me engage with the world directly through my avatar. If there's a tree in the way, let me help my Pokemon cut it down. Let me balance on my Pokemon while surfing. Let me directly control my Pokemon using Fly. Let me help move Boulders with my Pokemon using Strength.
Let me fight alongside my Pokemon against Wild Pokemon, we don't even need actual weapons. The Safari zone introduced us to throwing rocks, let us throw stones/rocks or use a slingshot to distract and interrupt wild Pokemon while our partner Pokemon deals the actual damage. Let us engage directly. You can have us give orders to our Pokemon in the classic turn based format for Trainer battles, but for the wild battles let our Pokemon act on their own if we so choose, while we assist them. I want to be friends with my Pokemon, not be their dictator.
You shouldn't discount the co-op aspect of Palworld. I think that is what is really missing from Pokemon proper. Any game that leans on collection as a core aspect requires appreciation from others to fully realize the experience.
Thank you for realigning my thoughts on this, yes indeed, if we look at the bigger picture, it's gamefreak's incompetence not being able to keep up with current gamer's demand is the problem. while Nintendo's reputation is more at risk cause we most often associate the main line Pokemon games with Nintendo more than Gamefreak. as a long time pokemon Fan, im just happy there's a bigger entity like Palworld who in a way becomes the next standard and challenge Nintendo and Gamefreak to level up their game.
Yo , all I wanted from Game Freak were systems that made me care about the Pokemon in my party--
Like a hunger gauge would've sufficed , but yet they remain the statues they were in generation 1 ( which I could excuse back then).
But its like GameFreak puts the Gacha game Pokemon was born into , before the role playing game it could be--
even the personalities under pokemon are just another column on the slot machine ,with no meaning outside of that.
I wouldn't be surprised if those hardcore shiny breeders and hunters were susceptible to gambling addiction.
It would be cool if they were able to show that in game
I don't think the situation for Pokémon is that bad. Another way to interpret the sales numbers is that people want games like Legends Arceus because Palworld and Legends Arceus are very similar games to each other once you factor out the base building (which is honestly not something I think Pokémon will ever add anyway, since Pokémon has always been about the journey). I think people like the open-world framework, throwing balls, seeing your Pokémon fight alongside you, dodge rolls, going up against bosses, collecting resources and crafting, filling in a dex, and getting XP bonuses, using Pokémon mounts, etc. Pokémon Legends Arceus did all of this, and pretty well. I'd say Palworld actually takes heavy inspiration from Legends Arceus considering many aspects of the UI, the inclusion of Alpha Pals, etc. are so similar.
I just think the wrong conclusion here is to say, "Palworld shits on Pokémon". Does it? There are only 2 games on the market that have anything remotely close to this kind of gameplay, even outside of the survival aspects: Palworld and Legends Arceus. That's it. And if you don't want to buy a Switch, there's only 1 game in total. That doesn't sound like a "shitting on Pokémon" problem to me. This sounds like an underserved market.
I have no doubt that going forward, Pokémon Legends Arceus style of Pokémon will be the direction Pokémon goes from now on. We know the internal files said Gen 10, despite the game being officially in Gen 8. This is where Game Freak is going, and they did it 2 years ago. 2 years in game development is not that long - certainly not long enough to say that "GameFreak is not innovating" when Legends Arceus was probably the biggest shakeup to the franchise ever. They just need to keep iterating on it, which is what they were going to do regardless if Palworld existed or not.
We should also not dismiss the things that Pokemon does better. While it's not focused on base building, and staying in one spot, there is a stronger narrative component in the last 2 entries. I feel like that needs to be an even larger focus to differentiate itself from Palworld. Also, GameFreak can use its financial might and add more voice acting and production values to further differentiate itself from Palworld.
Outsourcing Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Pearl is also evidence that GameFreak is really done with the old formula. I would expect Legends Arceus to be where Pokémon is going. Palworld succeeding probably only gives more confidence in this direction.
Lastly, we should also respect Pokemon for what it is - even Scarlet and Violet. Despite all of its ridiculous performance issues and rushed elements, the game is still enormously fun. Selling 23 million copies is no small feat. No matter how much CZcams and Twitter want to say otherwise, Scarlet and Violet are good games. I wish they had 6 months of polishing for sure, and I wish they borrowed more from Legends Arceus rather than being a half-step, but people still like these games. They even went back to play them every few weeks for raids too.
"Palworld shitting on pokemon" while I disagree with the wording is still a appropriate statement.
The thing you are missing is pokemon is one of the most popular franchise's in existence with essentially a infinite budget. However the games they have released have been subpar, and palworld which was developed on a extremely cheap budget ( around 10,000 which is pennies in game development terms )with inexperienced devs still managed to put out a better polished and by most accounts more fun game than game freak has, that's why "palworld shits on pokemon"
And while game freak is likely using legends arceus as a base moving forward, that still doesn't change the fact the games that they have released recently have been crap and uninspired.
Now I will give credit where it is due, as you rightfully pointed out the recent pokemon games stories have been better.... for pokemon standards, they are still like a C- in comparison to any other competent game that's released in the last few years. However it still is more than palworlds story at the moment, since palworld is still in early access and is not finished yet that may change over time with a more developed story. Granted it's hard to have a decent story in survival games, but games like the forest have pulled it off so it is possible.
@@sirpaladinknight5491 Palworld is certainly fun, but polished is not exactly the word I would use. I have 40 hours in Palworld myself, and I've seen invisible walls, I've clipped through surfaces, etc. The pals themselves get stuck routinely and stop attacking. Bosses in the underground caves clip through walls or stop attacking and get reset after 1-2 minutes.
The AI of the pals at the base are quite bad. They get stuck and stop moving, which means they can't feed themselves and they will get conditions or become incapacitated while you are away exploring. This is not the player's fault.
The catch odds are also extremely messed up, where people are having 80% catches fail 10-times in a row several times a day, even with max effigies. This should not happen.
The field of view is also trash, as enemies will put attacks under your feet and you can't see them. The camera turn-rate is stupidly slow, and there's no way to change it.
And the end-game balance with respect to resource costs and experience required is completely out of whack. The fact that I need to get hundreds upon hundreds of ore over 3 in-game days, a crap ton of coal in the desert, make tons of cement, tons of carbon fiber, etc. for just 30-ish purple spheres that I can use in about 10-minutes of actual gameplay is messed up. For balls being this time-consuming and this expensive to make, I'm still only getting 4% or 10% catch odds and can easily go through 20-30 of them in just 1 end-game boss fight.
The idea that this game is polished is just a false claim. I'm not trying to dismiss the devs at all. Their accomplishment is great. But the game is not polished. Legends Arceus is a very polished game by comparison, and the budget and team size shows.
Pokemon does a lot of things better too. I have my more agency as a trainer in Pokemon. If there's a rocket launcher enemy with 3 other less dangerous enemies, I can't tell my Pal to attack the rocket launcher - the AI's targets are completely random. This is a big problem. It means using Pals like Lyleen or Anubis can be problematic.
Also, the budget for Palworld was not 10,000, it was nearly 7 million.
I'm all for discussing this, but let's be honest about numbers and get our facts straight first.