How Support For Trump And Biden Is Switching & The Subtle Art Of Focus Groups | Question Time
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- Just how beneficial are focus groups to political parties? Will Biden's age cost him the US election? And why does Alastair hate vox pops so much?
Join Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell as they answer all these questions and more on the latest episode of The Rest Is Politics: Question Time.
00:00 Intro
00:10 Rory and Alastair’s current take on the US election
04:15 Biden’s physical state
08:50 Will Keir Starmer make dismantling of poverty key to his administration?
12:50 What did Rory and Alastair’s mothers do for a living?
18:55 Why do political journalists think Vox pops are useful?
23:50 Alastair’s focus group on train back from the Euros
31:00 If Labour win do they move seats in the House of Commons?
32:50 Alastair’s Euros Predictions
36:00 Outro
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Too much of a person's money is spent on housing. Tackling this will solve a great deal of poverty
And it would stimulate the broader economy as there would be more disposable income.
It’s economics 101 - demand and supply. Unless you want to concrete over the country then mass immigration needs to be reversed
@@mogznwaz
Why use concrete?😁
There are other construction materials available.
@@mogznwaz if you want the country to whither and die maybe. Assuming we want the country to grow and take its rightful place in the world we have to build. We don't live in a museum, this country leads the world in civilisation and we have to be strong. We should build and build to last like the Victorians
@@mogznwazfor one thing if we changed our planning system we could develop high density medium rise housing instead of the sprawl you describe. Much cheaper for the councils too - less tarmac, pipes, broadband needs to be installed per person as we’re closer together. It’s still concreting over to some extent but far less than normal housing projects
Poverty. Memories. Left school 15. Willingly handed over to my parents every penny I earned till 21. Married penniless at 22. Climbed out of poverty. Now live comfortably at 78. But poverty has been and is the governing factor of my whole life. I live with toes curled under each other and winter days and nights freezing for lack of warm clothes and blankets. I don't now live in that world but that world still lives in me.
And do you like who you are? Would you be the same person without it?
@@mogznwaz Why are those things relevant? You're trying to make some "built character" argument but no one has a crystal ball to say that if he had grown up not in poverty that he wouldn't have liked who he turned out as. Of course he wouldn't be the same person but that doesn't necessarily mean he would have been worse off.
Should call this “The British Dream” lol
Yes its tough. The older you get.the less social mobility you have
@@musicmikemn I think it is entirely relevant, which is why I asked. I grew up on a working class council estate where no one had a bean. Hand me downs, jumble sales, going without, making your own fun, wearing jumpers in bed at night etc. By today’s standards it would be considered poverty - back then it was ‘normal’. I think it definitely shaped who I am, how can it not? And no I don’t think I would be the same person if I’d had a privileged upbringing. The fear of losing the little I have and aversion to risk is something I think is hardwired into me because that’s the reality of living hand to mouth. I think it made me a better person in some ways - I’m certainly more down to earth and resilient than my more middle class friends but they have certainly had an easier life than me and more choices openly available to them thanks to Daddy’s bank account. Depends on your outlook I suppose. I would say that everyone is dealt a hand of cards - some get a better one than others. But how you play those cards can make a big difference. A well-off friend of mine who had every privilege growing up is an unhappy junkie today. I’d consider myself fortunate compared to him 🤷♀️
“I met these 4 working class lads at a football game, they were great they knew who I was, they knew about David Cameron even though they were 5 years old when he was elected, they new about the Prescott jab even though it happened when they were babies, they knew I’d run rings around them, and even though most of these working class lads voted Tory last time. After 5 mins with me they are now all member of the Labour Party and asked me to sign their copy of my book.” Alister that interaction was a dream. It didn’t happen.
So lovely to hear Rory speak about his mother's achievements. His admiration and love for her is heart-warming to hear.
I hope Labour brings back Surestart for all children. I took my twin grandchildren to one of the first ones that opened and was deeply impressed by the calibre and skill of the staff and the way the children thrived. My grandchildren are now 24 and I'm sure that Surestart was an important factor in their development.
Alastair there was the edit version ŵhere he looked like he walked away. The unedited version shows him walking towards and talking to the parachitists
You should have expected that Alastair would have known this. I'm surprised he made that statement.
must have to do a lot of toilet training to become a parachitist
The master of spin being caught out by it himself!
Yes, the 'wandering off' has been debunked by alternative camera angles showing who he was talking to (a couple of skydivers had just landed nearby).
Biden *does* act like an old man far too much though.
I strongly disagree with the people that claim to know his mental state, but the truth is that he does these weird things.
Slurred speeches, turning and staring at the press while walking off after a speech. It's bad optics at the best of times, doubly so with the Republicans telling the country that he's senile.
Rory showed us one of his pots, Alastair should play the instrument of war.
A choice between a decent old man and an utterly indecent old man. Yet people are split. I almost despair.
Its insane on the surface but makes sense once you dig deeper: Trump offers hope for left-behind and ignored pluralities in rural and rust belt areas.
These are parts of America that have been hit hard by globalisation and did not really recover from the recession - the US has a bigger urban/rural wealth gap than all other developed countries. The democrats have largely given up on these areas - their solutions (e.g. "retraining" miners to be programmers ) aren't realistic or saleable and more designed to comfort their urban voter bases rather than actually tackle the issue.
Its false hope - as well as unsustainable agricultural subsidies to make it seem like he is delivering - but when people have nothing else they will cling to it like flies to a sugar trap.
Biden is indecent and clearly losing. The decent man Trump will win. Don’t worry
Disappointed with you for not pointing out that clip of Joe, was cut so it looked like he was wandering off when in reality he was talking to a man who had just parachute down. Very disappointed that you didn’t know this yet you brought it up.
Absolutely - 4 out of 10 must try harder!
Falling for American spin
Hahahaaaaaa.
Yeah, right.
Makes you wonder about how deep their knowledge goes of the presidential election.
Indeed. And have they ever talked about project 2025? Staggers me that so many political journalists are ignoring the actual plan if Trump gets into office. It's like discussing which flavour of ice cream will be dominant, when the plan is to rid the world of ice cream
AAARGH! President Biden didn't "wonder away" like a dotard, he was greeting the paratroopers who had just landed!
yeah, it's a bit embarrassing for analysts to fall for something like that
Biden is by far mentally sharper than Trump who is quite clearly in sharp decline. Biden’s speeches at State of the Union and D Day were superb. Trump would be talking about sharks, Silence of the Lambs, building the wall ( which he didn’t do last time) etc
Not the biggest Trump guy here but are you living under the biggest rock on planet earth Biden can't even navigate his way off a stage on his own (not even talking about the d-day thing here either) he can't do long form talking anymore without mumbling or start waffling about something that is not only off topic but just absolute incoherent nonsense, we've never been closer to WW3 thanks to him and his team and the Tories. Trump will run rings around Biden when we get to the debates whether you like Trump or not the man is not on a sharp decline and if you genuinely think that you need to seriously open your eyes.
Yeah, Biden is aging naturally and I don't think him slurring his words every now and then should be an issue. Trump's health on the other hand is genuinely in a state of decline and he had moments where he paused for up to a minute without saying anything and he makes up all kinds of new words.
This aged well 😂
To Rory's dinner with a bunch of lawyers suggesting we should get highly competent people and pay them well. If we did that, Rishi would never have been Chancellor, BJ wouldn't have been PM, and Liz Truss wouldn't have been PM. They might have been able to become backbenchers but if we had a culture that valued competence and leadership, they wouldn't have stood out at all. They are big fish in a little pond.
I watched snippets of a recent rally at which trump spoke. It really seemed as though he could not follow a thought to the end of a sentence. If Trump were to be elected then realistically who would be pulling his strings? The idea that he may be ruling (not governing) such a vast country is very worrying.
I believe Steve Bannon hopes he'll be pulling the strings.
@@bookie5667 Thanks. I will look him up.
Fox + right-wing media are CENSORING anything Trump. This is why it's like living in 2 different realities.
@@MazzaEliLi7406 I think Bannons address is Rikers Island something something
@@richardh8082 Thanks again.
Another great episode with how to get common guys to talk about what is important to them and bit about the hosts’ mothers and Alistar’s German language skills all made the episode
really a joy to listen!
My perserverance continues in trying to get an answer to a question I had sent in but has not yet been answered; what is Labour’s Africa engagement plan or strategy?
The Biden clip at the G7 was cropped he was talking to a para that had just landed by cropping it made him look senile
It is not a feeling that everything is more expensive - inflation may becoming down, but the reality is that prices of everything are alot higher than they were before.
This is the thing, you have a period of high inflation then those price rises are baked in, and the norm on which the next bout of inflation is based on that higher value. Mad example after 50% inflation a 1% inflation is the same monetary increase as 2% the year before.
Not enough attention is being paid to Trump's state of health. Fox News has a vested interested in covering it up. He is obese, he has a very poor diet, and his verbal skills and reasoning are deteriorating rapidly,
Exactly, there have also been instances of him freezing up for close to a minute and we've all seen how he messes up words all of the time.
Watch the interview Trump just did on the All-In podcast. See how you think he looks and talks
HE DIDNT walk away watch the whole clip expect more from you guys
Campbell owes his audience an apology and clarification. Biden didn't "wander off". He moved to his left to talk to paratroopers, just landed, folding their parachutes. Facts are important. Campbell, "Mr Spin", was neither fair nor factual in describing events in France. A fair and sincere apology is required to safeguard the reputation of this show and restore its credibility.
Disappointed that you refer to the 'Meloni saves Biden from wondering off' video, and don't recognise that it was doctored, then framed that way by the NYPost. Original video shows a very different reality - that Biden was very intentional, and very present in the moment.
In his own senile mind.
@@user-tp3rs6qs8w so you've bought in to the propaganda. At this point, while I feel sorry that that's happened to you, it is willful ignorance on your part.
@@user-tp3rs6qs8w I didn't know speaking to paratroopers makes you senile.
Very impressed with Alastair’s German at the end!
Agreed! And thank you, Rory, for the plug for more languages in schools ❤😊
"dass es so selten (not seltsam) ist" 😉, otherwise very persuasive and charming. 😊
Love the podcast, btw.
To think that half of the voters would want Trump in again is beyond crazy. And saddening.
Yeh I know half are considering voting for biden. Madness!
The thought that there are people in America that feel DT is an appropriate candidate to become a president shows astonishing lack of awareness, and possibly an indication of hate?
I doubt it will be a ‘united’ states in 10 years from now.
It is but a lot of it is because FOX has been LYING, spreading DISINFORMATION on behalf of Trump, including that the 2020 election was stolen. They manipulate images, they constantly spin and lie for Trump. Imagine this: They've even managed to convince MAGA that Biden undid
Roe v Wade.
And more than extremely dangerous.
It's shocking and will be the end of Anerican democracy as we know it (which will then threaten other democracies around the world, including our own).
Alistair mate, that was an edited clip of Joe. Please do better.
Agree, I listened to state of union address and believe me he has not got mental decline, unlike Trump who rambles, whines and confuses the name of international leaders
Rory!! the US economy is miles ahead of the UK skip fire....and the rest of the world for that matter
Exactly, people need to stop acting like the US is in a recession. Every major country was hit by inflation by the US has recovered the best.
The US economy is strong. Not like the UK.
The average person doesn't care about economic trends or indicators. What they feel is stuff is more expensive therefore, to them, the economy is terrible and its Biden's fault. Whether or not this is rational, its what people think.
🤣 Rory promoting the idea of REFORM !! Priceless !
Oh god I hate voxpops. It's got to the point where, if I'm listening to the radio news and they ask some random person in a shopping centre, who doesn't know Westminster from Axminster, what they think about the story of the day, I switch off the radio.
Step back from the detail, I find these discussions so refreshing. Different views without conflict, the world wou;d be so much better if we all took this as a model. Thanks!
that picture of him wandering off was absolute rubbish cos it was the angle it was taken....on
n MSNBC there was a completely different -at a different angle and he had just turned round to look at some people behind him so get your facts right....!!!
Cope
Rory - There is no such thing as a centre-left Conservative.
Rory is basically a lib dem
The centre for the Conservative are at a different place than labour.
It’s probably that those who used to be on the centrist half of the Tory party (the centre right) are now supposedly being described as Centre left because of how our collective viewpoint (Overton window) has shifted? That’s just my guess but yeah I thought that was odd too.
He means in relation to the rest of the party. Left wing and right wing is already a pretty imprecise metric, there's no harm in applying it to political parties.
There is, from the point of view of other Conservatives, because their 'center' has lurched to the right in the last 10 years.
So Labour no longer has a John Prescott, but they have Angela Rayner. And I understood Alastair's German, although it was 62 years ago that I scraped an O level and haven't spoken a word since. Congrats to both of us!
I think there needs to be more emphasis on the fact that it’s a team effort. They need to focus on the team around Biden.
And the Project 2025 lunatics around rape-guy.
What a shower of diversity hires they are
That might backfire actually. Some are already concerned that Biden isn't actually the one making alot of decisions or that he's being pushed by more progressive people in his cabinet and movement.
A group of lawyers with diverse backgrounds??
What is missing from most would-be leaders nowadays is altruism and integrity. Politicians having superficial charisma or 'being a laugh' never kept anyone warmer on cold nights. Most have lost sight of the fact that the entire point of politics is to make life better for the average person, not merely themselves and their rich friends.
All this talk about Biden's age and looking a bit 'wandery' but why are neither of you mentioning that Trump is only 4 years younger, is much fatter (bluntly) and there are shots of him needing help to walk up ramps etc. I think both are too old to rule the US but Trump mentally is the one I have concerns about.
Crooked media has a focus group called the Wilderness and in one group in Atlanta they interviewed young black people and asked who they were going to vote for. They had complaints about Biden and the cost of living. They ended up saying they were going to vote for Biden because Trump is crazy.
They are both too old. The hypocrisy of the right re this matter, though, and the outright propaganda and lies, is both totally unsurprising and quite awful.
Yes they are both old but Biden comes off as more senile than Trump. Trump is constantly going around giving speeches, so even if his age shows it'll be out of the publics mind because Trump would already done something else. Compare that to Biden who rarely gives speeches or does public interviews, so his slow manner sticks in the public minds longer whenever he has an unflattering moment.
@@gaelsarmiento4496 There are two types of mental deterioration. Trump now spews out incoherent bullshit all day, but doesnt "forget" what hes talking about.
Biden looks and acts older. Quit telling people not to believe their own eyes. Gaslighting will backfire if you think you're helping Biden. This is like when CNN and MSNBC thought they were hurting Trump by covering him constantly
Respect for your German, Alastair. Nicely phrased and -for an English- very well pronounced. I know what I am talking about, being a German myself and having been married to an English whose German wasn’t nearly as good as yours after having lived in Germany for 13 years.
Thanks for your section on the USA. I much prefer your insights.
I think rory and Alistair have missed a trick, people are feed up with the establishment mind set, good or bad.
There really are looking for a new way of thinking!
But if that happens too quickly it will be whole new adventure that may end up worse than the disaster we already have! Like Germany in 1933.
@@hectorpascal true , but the speed of change needed is real.
See how the digital world is changing.
Actually the real change , is how each one of can adapt, change ourselves first is key too
Exactly. Many people who Vote for Trump don't actually think he's of good character either. It's a protest or anti-establishment vote. Then you have someone like Biden who promises a "Return to normal", which is literally the last thing people want.
@@hectorpascalthat's being used to death. Should really look into the boy who cried wolf
For god sake . Please can you both run this country together.
yeah. we had Labour and Tory ... look at us now. why do you think these two are different? Rory is honest. Alistair is a spin doctor. A metaphor for crook
I'm American and a political junkie. Compared to my wife, she still doesn't believe that Trump will run again, has no idea what he's been up to since he was out of office because she tuned him out. This is the case for a lot of people I know, come November, once people are reminded of Trump, there's absolutely no chance he gets elected. It's more of a vote against Trump than for Biden.
I think you might be unpleasantly surprised fella
@@stewbie5086Mmmmmm. I think he may be right but how about we see in November?
@@hollandanish5557 I mean, there is no question he might be unpleasantly surprised. The fact is, no matter what, it is going to be a roll of the dice. The US Election won’t be like the UK one, where it is a done deal, the only question is how big a victory. It will be a 55% chance for Biden at BEST. Which means that in 45% of universes Trump will be president. I suspect it will be closer though… I just hope that I get to be in the universe with Biden… for Ukraine’s sake.
"No chance"? Lol, ok.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 More like, unlikely and less and less likely. Lol.
Can anyone tell me where I find the Newsletters please? Thank you! I love to listen to Rory and Alastair! Xxxt
Good summary of how bad Vox Pops are.
About the French elections and their significance. It would be useful for you to interview an French politics academic that has also an historical understanding. There are significant trends similar to the 1930. The fact that reforms of 5th republic to avoid the 1930 mess are under strain. Explain the state of things on the street.
The worrying thing is similar exasperation exist in the UK.
Politicians need to think very what they are about, leave the crap behind and sell vision
The destitute don’t vote.😢
I would like to see someone do a comparison of Labour's manifesto and Cameron's Manifesto in 2010. Everything Labour is saying today l feel like l have heard that before, 14 years ago from Cameron and Osborne.
See the full film for the G7 situation. Biden was walking towards paratroopers to give them a thumbs up, then called back. Right wing editing produced the clip you saw. Surprised you do not question this type of thing.
Wandering off to do even that is still weird
aged like warm milk.
The Blob talking to itself. Love the show but they have no idea about anything real. All the references about how I was talking to the head of some NGO or another at a dinner party
Rory: 'clearly something is broken'. Yes, it's wealth inequality. I never hear it mentioned and it's surely a huge issue. The wealth is there, our economies are creating it. But it's not being distributed properly. This has created so much resentment, which populists have been quick to exploit. The rise of populism is not the problem (though it is problematic), it is the symptom.
Thing I love about this podcast is the human side, who would have thought we would witness Blairs Press attack dog trying to charm German stadium officials to let him bring a bagpipe in, so he could annoy Victor Orban, schoolboy high jinx. Rory’s mum sounds great, reminds my of my Grandmother who lived to 96, attributed to drinking a bottle of gin a day, in her mid 80's she confronted a goat in her garden, and was hospitalised, just a random stray wandering Essex goat, she also befriended 'the young man with the funny hair' Keith Flint, they become gardening buddies, because life is delightfully strange.
Just think how a generation’s attitude to work and productivity may change if they can’t ever afford a house
Very good question time again.
While this isn't a fully political question.
But what is both your thoughts about Mark Rutte getting the top job at Navo and if he will be any good at it?
Huge concern in farming that Starmer will bring in inheritance tax changes that will destroy farming families and put food security at risk. Rory must know from Cumbria that not all farmers are millionaires and this is a real fear.
Handsome Rory!?! Is it just me or is Rory suddenly looking a lot younger and fresher this episode and last. I swear his hair looks a lot fuller and styled too?
It's the headphones. He usually wears earbuds. :-)
@@nickyleach ah I dunno I think he's got a bit of a tan and a good rest too from all his flying about he usually does. But yeah maybe the headphones is helping his hair too. Usually looks so tired and thin
It’s because he has rolled up his sleeves so it doesn’t look like he is drowning in his giant cuffs. It’s summer, get the guns out Rory!
7:27 American here. This is a moment that shows how much of a big tent the two parties are. Dems, or at least the ones making the decisions and relaying the information, only seem to be able to communicate with people who are like them. Higher information voters, middle to higher income, with similar middle to higher class backgrounds. Call it ideological groupthunk if you want, but it's really a lack of a representation for americans undergoing the more typical struggles. People who are struggling with cost of living, a slowed down job market, and can't seem to get far. I'm happy to see Biden talk about what he is going to do with regards to economic issues. There's some good stuff there that they can sway people on if they speak to their economic accomplishments and plans as well, because people need to be reminded of it.
The demographic breakdown is a bit different this time around. While both candidates are making inroads with new groups, the two are facing different battles. Trump does better with low info voters who don't tend to vote much. There is some gains made with Hispanic and black but they get outweighed by that fact that independents don't prefer him all that much. While Biden does a bit better with independents, his problem is that he is struggling to turn out some core parts of his base (mainly due to Gaza).
Good points, well put. Please do a podcast |:)
the problem with our economic system is inheritance and how its dealt with.
Most successful industry in the poverty sector is the massive increase in food banks. The Tories should be pushing this fine result. Over 3,000 and climbing now.
Political change needs to come from a grass level, the public need to start new political parties that deliver for the needs of all people.
Yep. If you're far right, vote Reform; everyone else vote Green.
I hope the Democrats don't listen to Rory's poor advice. It's emotion and personal interests that sways voters - certainly not to philosophical issues like "the USs role internationally." A woman's right to make decisions over her own body and the despicable consequences of State abortion laws. These are motivating issues.
Your right america is so big and Self centered campaigning on international issues is pointless.
Exactly, abortion has proven to be a winning point for Democrats with them consistently overperforming and winning a lot of seats they shouldn't have since Roe was overturned.
Johnson normalised lying. There's the problem.
They need to make a biopic about Rory's mum!
Good spoken German at the end there! You'd certainly have convinced me to let you take your Dudelsack in with you...
I do wish we would use the standard pronuncation "Farridge" - it rhymes with "Garage"
I think Rory in his story of his round-table discussion with twelve lawyers may have missed the real question about politicians' competence. Using Rishi Sunak as an example: he may have been a skilled banker and the lawyers might have imagined him working in their field too - but why should that make him a good politician, never mind a good prime minister. Is there an argument that many politicians are simply in the wrong job, as the recruitment and selection process is so weird? We certainly need to consider this before replacing the Lords with a fully elected second chamber; far better to recruit a wide range of experts to conduct proper revision and scrutiny.
Rory’s mum sounds fascinating, I’ve only ever heard him talk about this father but he surely gets a lot of his adventurous spirit from her too.
You fell for the fake video that he just wondered off? He was talking to a paratrooper. You can do better than that.
I see channel 4 upgraded your cameras. No complaints.
Great show. I don't understand how Rory is in the conservative party. He seems to be a Tony Blair Labour person.
If people knew how Scaramucci runs his investments vehicles you’d have a different opinion of him.
Meloni video cut out the people Biden was talking to.
I find it hard to take Rory seriously when I see him talking about poverty and the importance of it being reduced when you look at his voting record on these kind of issues when he was an MP.
More talk than action.
If his Dad was Harvey Smith's vet he must have been a very good vet.
HS did not suffer fools...
It’s because the rich conservative doesn’t want lose their cash
Young Black Men (myself included) are staying home (my self excluded: I’m going Joe)
quite a good session. I have watched The Rest Is Politics enough to predict the biases and blind spots, but this was quite nice. Here in America, it is vanishingly rare to find such quality conversation. The Rest Is Politics US does not impress me at all.
Nothing special at all said here. Many Americans give entirely to much weight to a British accent. It's literally shown in polling lmao
@@chickenfishhybrid44 I think your reply to my appreciation would be less condescending if you spent some time listening to the more popular and readily available podcasts from the United States.
Valid point about telling people how to feel about their economic situation. The fact is that IF Trump told his voters everything's great under the SAME circumstances*, they wouldn't be complaining. These are the same people that have been spotted wearing "Real men wear diapers" tshirts AND diapers!
*which are pretty good, esp when compared to other nations
This is not a Trump or Democrat or Republican thing. It's basic political polarization. Republicans felt better under Trump's economy, and Democrats feel better under Bidens economy. I know it's fun to pretend Trump or Republicans voters are all dumb and immoral, and Democrat voters are rational and good, but they're guilty of the same shit.
Beautiful attempt at convincing the German guard at the stadium. Hut ab fuer so gutes Deutsch (zusaetzlich zum Franzoesisch).
Absolutely agree about vox pops. I switch off immediately.
Alastair, why are your decanters empty? 🙂
The are war trophies
He drank the lot before the show started. .
You didn’t watch the opening to the video did you 😂 he’s staying in a Berlin apartment rented out by the BBC and the Rest is Football pundits are staying. He’s also got a room there himself
isn't he sober? meaning i think in discussion of his mental health he described problem drinking so maybe they're just for decoration and he doesn't drink
@@ayobamilaniyonu7419 Yes, it was kind of a joke that his d canters were empty.
When Rory starting pointing out Alastairs shirt, his own shirt miraculously changed from short sleeve to long sleeve!! Very odd!
Wander not wonder - big difference.
I think Labour is only targeting the voters themselves this election not policies as in general the homeless and the very poor don’t vote. Prison reforms are the same as in general prisoners can’t vote.
Alastair that clip of him 'wandering off' didn't show he had moved over to congratulate one of the paratroopers. Shame on you for not being more curious.
Asked to talk about their mothers. Talked about fathers.
I agree partially with Rory about the rise of the far right. The trouble is that our political system has largely allowed a significant portion of our society to fall behind. People feel ignored. They still get taxed, they put up with crappy services and a shockingly bad pension. How can the political class be surprised that people get sucked in by people who highlight their problems and tell them they are on their side. Call them credulous. Thing is they are very very angry. They will vote right wing. On the health service I disagree strongly with Rory’s take that the government should take on the unions, implying that health workers get paid too much. Firstly the pay of healthcare workers has been degraded for nearly all of the Tories term in government. Why do you think so many NHS workers,doctors, nurses and paramedics are leaving for Australia? I’ll tell you. It’s the pay. It’s the conditions. It’s the workload. We do need a different system now. BUT we cannot import the horror of American healthcare. We should look to the Netherlands, Norway, Japan and other top of the table systems and implement one of them.
It's a class issue not a political issue, I wish MAGA got this but they listen to Fox + other right-wing media.
people were convinced last time He couldn't get in..
this time is even more worrying i think...
I like Alastair's shirts; could it be that his father dresses like him rather than the other way around?
I also loathe vox pops, and instantly swith off. They are dangerous in their bias - if 66% of people think one thing this is reduced to half of a vox pop, and if that side is not represented by a good orator the minority opinion is seen to have won.
As others have noted, I am sad to see Alistair fall for an edited video of Biden at the G7. Likewise, Rory's statement that the Southern states were swing states was shocking to hear. Maybe that was true when both parties were conservative, but this has not been true for decades. The one thing to note is that as the parties realign, the Democrats are picking up more consistent voters, while the Republicans are picking up more occasional voters.
New Mexico, Arizona, Georgia; perhaps Florida & Colorado too. Even Texas is on course to be a swing state in a couple of decades.
Something has gone wrong on a part of democracy.
you have to talk about Trumps physical issues as well to be fair. you watch him he looks older then Biden. Rory - Trump is 78 he is also very old and in worse health. you have played into the trump play book. odd miss for you
Television Wales? Was the before HTV?
Small point of information. How much of the American population lives in the cities? 80% live in cities and 20% live in rural areas. So in this discussion something does not compute. I think the analysis needs to be more regionally nuanced.
The real nuance is what counts as part of a city. A lot of what we consider "the city" are just suburbs that surround an urban core, which in combination makes a metropolitan area. People often conflate a metropolitan area with a city, but there is a distinction. Cities, particularly the highly dense inner core are very liberal. However, the suburbs that surround a cities urban core can go either direction politically. So it's more accurate to say that 80% live in metropolitan areas, whose inner core is very liberal but whose outer suburban area (with populations that often outnumber the urban core) being more politically diverse.
@@gaelsarmiento4496 Yet in political analysis you will often hear the phrase that Biden and the Democrats score higher in the suburbs especially with college educated white women. I still think that a more regional breakdown is going to give us a better undrestandin of the demographics. In very red states the large metropolitan ares may skew more liberal especially if there is university in that city center but the smaller cities will still tend right. I just felt that Rorry's statement was not nuanced enough. We know, because we are here that there is a major component of the voting public which right-wing.
If Labour do not reform public spending so that more proportionally goes to working age people and less to pensioners, and if taxes go up on working age people to pay for that spending, then there is an opportunity for a centre right movement that pitches itself at working age people. I.e. abolish the triple lock and redirect resources towards supporting young families, cutting taxes for working people etc... But the Tories have been dragged so far in a pensioner centric culturally conservative direction that they may be incapable of taking up that opportunity.
Wow! Never knew how well Alistair speaks German. Impressive.
And it was absolutely splendid. I do remember that a native English-speaker once asked me to help him to make the German ü-sound, and how difficult it was for him. Alistars ü-sound is spot-on.
Trump has serious Cognitive decline as had his dad and brother!
You never talk about the dementia and craziness of Trump. All his speeches are crazy. He thinks Obama is president.
I still recall the news that Trump, that orange bloke from TV was running for President and everyone laughed.
It’s scary how we are in the situation that we are in now. Almost doesn’t feel real..
That's because it isn't. Trump was the most effective president in the post-war era. Biden is without question the worst president in the post-war period and a candidate for the worst since the country's founding.
Pay attention to policies and facts, not rhetoric.
Talk about unrepresentativeness of Voxpop should apply to first past the post- I found 7,000 in some part of rural Cambridgeshire who don’t want a trainline or wind farm. “Fear my electoral power.”