Upgrading from a MyWay/RNEG radio to a much better RNEG2/RT6 unit | Citroen C5 X7
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2022
- In this video, I upgrade my head unit. I remove the MyWay/RNEG radio that came with my Citroen C5 X7 2.0Hdi and install a much better RNEG2/RT6 unit that has USB and A2DP Bluetooth streaming.
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I’m so glad I’ve found your channel. There's not much content on C5 on CZcams and you were a lifesaver. Instant subscribe on my part. Awesome vídeo, I can't wait to see more.
I live in Leiria, Portugal and i have a C5 1.6 Diesel Tourer from 2012. would like to ask you why you chose this route instead of the Android way?
Please keep up the good work because I’ll keep watching it.
Thank you for the kind words. I didn't go for the android route for a few reasons. First, to the best of my knowledge, it means no steering wheel button integration. Second, I am not a fan of the sticky outy screens, and third, I utterly abhor touchscreens.
I almost had a heart attack when I saw you yanking that facia the second time to connect that hazzard light switch....good thing they made that plastic a bit durabble.
That is a great upgrade, I use the USB only. I stopped using the radio ages ago, once I had to use the AUX outlet, but I never use anything else, except...
Here's a little detail I forgot:
at random times, very occasionally, (3 or 4 times a year), after being parked for the night, or after parking for a while, no specific time, it could be 15 minutes, it could be 8 hours, so after that, I unlock and enter the car and turn on the engine, and THEN I turn on the audio (I turn it off before shutting the engine, that's how "I" do it, not that it's right or wrong or it "should" be done like that....),
so I turn on the audio, and instead of continuing to play the USB music, as it was doing when I shut down, it now plays the radio, and it only recognizes the radio and CD player. Not the USB/AUX/bluetooth. It also does not connect to my phone.
So for the whole "session", I don't have a USB/AUX/Phone. It could be a whole trip, but I won't have the phone connected to the car.
BUT.....after the driving session, I park and shut down and lock it, and when I return (could be the next day or 20 minutes later), I start the engine for another session, and everything is fine. The audio recognizes everything.
It just looks like a reboot issue, but it doesn't show any other symptoms to tie it with. It's totaly random. I have to point out that after changing to a brand new battery, It never happened so far, so a half or dying battery may be the cause.
I have the RD4 unit, the basic one, so that could play a part in it. Maybe your unit has better software and it doesn't do these kind of things.
When opening the hole for the USB inside that tray, make sure that socket doesn't hit anything in the back when it's closed.
To be honest, THAT is a way better position for the USB outlet than the armrest. I mean....they put the cup holder inside that armrest, and if you have a USB plugged there, the cup keeps bumping on the usb stick. That is a destruction waiting to happen. It forced me to buy a small outline USB stick, just to avoid that danger, but before I get that new stick, I used it with an improvised 90° elbow, so that the USB stick will stay close to the wall and not hit the coffee cup.
And I had to make my own elbow, because the ones sold in the market were equaly long and protruding far inside the armrest, again hitting the coffee cup, (or the cup hitting them).
Oh and about that expantion tank tube I mentioned the other day, here's a fiew pics to show what I mean:
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That "PA12" you see written there is a type of Nylon, I assume like PA 11, which is the typical number of the so called "nylon" tubes, (IF my info is correct), so I guess the PA 12 should be a notch better nylon than the PA 11...???....I don't know, however, nylon is a pretty durable plastic, it can hold the temperatures of an engine bay and the coolant, and it can last a long time, that's probably why nothing happens to the tube itself, but rather to the connection points. Those connectors are fused with the tube, and the way it is routed, it's in the middle of the working area, and this way, anyone trying to do any kind of work there, will give it a bump and brake it.
That's why I switched to Teflon tube with custom connectors.
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which leave all that area free for the technitian to work, without worrying about braking anything.
See? I think of the technitians too.
Maybe nothing would ever happen to it....maybe something WOULD happen to it....either way, I consider it to be one of those tiny little details, that when they DO go wrong, they go unnoticed and they cause major damage if you don't take care of them.
I know you may not have the means to switch to something like mine, (if you can, do it), but even so, just knowing the information is crutial. Keep an eye on it and make sure nothing happens to it.
Great job.
Oh and one more thing: my USB/Aux unit is the factory installed, and in order to work, it needs to be programmed to the BSI, which is done through the diagbox tool. Does yours need that too? Or it works out of the box?
You spoil me! Rest assured, I will keep an eye on that, though if it's something too hard for me to do on my own, I've got a great mechanic who I turn to often.
I won't be opening a hole in the tray for the USB, I'm sorry if it sounded like I was going to do that. I have another more elegant solution, that I will be execute first and show later!
@@mr_nice. I had it programmed by the seller. They did a good job of it, fortunately, as it just plugged and played like a dream!
@@comcarclub ....awesome, great job, can't wait for that elegant solution. 👍👍👍
@@comcarclub I was just about to ask you why the RT6 immediately turned on normally instead of just beeping (theft protection). So the seller also coded the VIN of your car into the RT6.
Love your authentic >sight< before the first break in the video. 😆
It is very familiar, dislike videos where everything goes as expected 'cus I have never experienced that personally. 😉👍
Thanks for doing this videos, as there is not much detail related to c5 ,s out there, can you tell if this upgrade will work on x7 s with the executive trim 2010 ( they have a double height radio unit) as the satnav is very out of date , 😀
I’ve done the same in my 2007 C4. RD4, RD45, MyWay to finally a RT6. Bit expensive for everything but well worth it. It’s something to get used to and the Bluetooth streaming has a little delay. Have it hooked up a reversing camera and parking sensors
You're right, it IS expensive, but I can offset the cost somewhat by selling the old unit. Everything car-related is sodding expensive in this country, and I managed to sell my old RD4 + display for enough to cover the cost of my new RD45 and its corresponding display.
Hi. Wonderful video. Can you provide links to the tools you've used, especially the plastic remover?
My tools came with a radio kit I ordered more than 10 years ago. A search on eBay or Aliexpress for "trim removal tools" will get you what you need.
My car has a Bluetooth streaming and USB so I believe it's the "upgraded" radio. Although the sound quality for me is poor and not satisfactory. For future I plan to do some upgrades in order to have something at least decent sounding :)
Sounds good. :D
Fantastic video and explanation. Thank you for the content. I'm actually in the market for a 2.0 or higher C5 Tourer (manual-diesel). I'd like to get a trim that has traditional handbrake, moonroof, metallic slider panels in the boot, et cetera. Is it true if I were to get a C5 with the SatNav screen and infotainment system it would not have the capability of linking to my bluetooth phone to play music and the like? Would I have to ahead and do this installation of a new system as is displayed in this video?
Thank you! If you can find that combo of panoramic roof + no trick suspension, that will be quite something as I've never seen such a combo personally, but that may vary from market to market. Maybe an early 2008/09 model with the 138bhp engine, which everyone says is great BTW.
As for the satnav screen question, that depends on the year. I'm not sure when the RT6 (the one that allows for BT streaming) was introduced but I'd wager it was around 2012. Anything earlier is probably going to be a crap one. You can tell it's an earlier to-be-avoided MyWay if it has an SD card slot. Personally, I'd get the overall spec you'd like with whatever radio, then upgrade. And if I knew what I knew today, I'd skip the RT6 altogether
@@comcarclub I know it's a bit silly to try and include all of those things, but we always look for those extra bells and whistles when in the market. Thank you for your reply!
Wait....it just came to me.....
The tray under the radio, hmmm....too deep, you can't reach and remove that usb.
inside the ash tray itself,... nah, too small,
So we're left with that small opening tray, right behind the handbrake.
Now THAT is a pretty elegant place to put that USB socket, without interfearing with the cup holder, AND it's hidden. Although, you won't be able to use it any more, but it's the smallest of all anyway.
Not bad, I like it ! ! ! You could've pulled that cable in that spot in the first place, and wouldn't have to bust your chops to run it all the way to that left tray.
I can't wait ....
Hey, I noticed in my C5 X7 that the glove compartment has a small hole, just wide enough to poke a finger through the is on the top,
So inside the glove compartment, at the top, look for a small hole, it might need to be punched or something, as mine also has more 'seams' around that hole,
anyways it looks like this hole is specifically for an AUX connection or USB, in mine there was a disconnected 3-wire cable, seemingly an aux, I don't know..
Anyways I upgraded from RD4 to RD45 which came with a new AUX connector, which I haven't had the time to manage, so my RD45 Unit is still handing 3/4 of the way inside it's cocoon..
You're right on the money!
i have the same radio, i'm happy with the sound. But i wanne replace it in the future with the SMEG touchscreen system with apple carplay connectivity
Ouch, touchscreens. I didn't buy a more recent C5 because it had a touchscreen
@@comcarclub I didn't buy a more recent C5 because of the Prince engines (EP* / THP*) and the timing chain epic fail,
I'm with a good old RFJ 2.0L (Petrol is the family vehicle fuel to use in my country)
@@comcarclub it get it, buttons are easy, i used apple carplay in my previous car, with waze, tomtom or maps, so easy! if there is no carplay available i would not change ;)
@@asaflevy1540 petrol really is nice, and I even made a recent video on the subject of petrol vs diesel. But this 163hp diesel is changing my mind regarding oil-burners
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Gracias
What is the highest Navigation class for Citroen C5 ? RNEG, RNEG2 or other ? Thanks in advance for your answers.
Ooh, that's a tough one. The NG4 was the top-notch head unit, it had voice commands, USB, SD card input, 3D maps and other stuff. Later, there were the NAC units, they had Android auto and BT streaming, so better for smartphone compatibility. The RNEG is by far the worst choice, IMHO. Apart from BT calls it doesn't do much.
Hola , no hay que codificar la radio con el bastidor del coche ?
Si, el vendedor me há codificado cuando hice la compra. Compré de ebay y ha venido de alemania
Continente Bag and Via Verde!!!! You stay in Portugal.
Hello, please tell me, that RT6 doesn't work with the RNEG display?Have to change also the display?Thank you!
That is correct. If you change the radio, you have to change the display too.
@@comcarclub Thank you!
By pure luck I found your nice video and now I'm curious to know where you bought the new RNEG2/RT6 unit. I have searched everywhere in vain.
Greetings from Denmark.
I got it from ebay, from a German shop called
jpelektrohandel2014. Honestly, I didn't like their service, the radio was a lot more expensive than it should have been (that was my fault, I should have shopped around more) but the communication was awful. I would ask questions and they would go silent for ages. I wasn't happy.
@@comcarclub Thanks for the quick reply. I have been to the website you refer to and I don't think the prices put me off at all. I've been searching on the web for the last couple of months and they all cost around €600 for the unit alone used. That the company then has a lousy service is of course annoying.
Hi, what features are there on this unit compared to the MyWay one? Does it stream bluetooth music? Cause MyWay only does calls sadly.
Yes, unlike the MyWay/RNEG1, it streams music AND has USB connectivity, so you can fill a pen drive with mp3s. It's a lot better. Not as good as the RD45, IMHO, but still a lot, lot better than the RNEG
@@comcarclub Thanks for your response! The USB is built in the unit or it's the usb port in the center storage? Because I don't have that. It's good enough that BT plays music though. And the unit you mentioned, it's possible to fit that one? I'm curious since I kinda don't want those giant 8-9" Android ones, they look way out of place installed outwards of the dash
@@Ivan-jz9by Yeah, I'm not a big fan of android screens either. The USB port requires a cable that is then connected to the actual port. You can put it in the centre storage but I put it in the glove box (czcams.com/video/0XIE32BcpCY/video.html)
@@comcarclub Sweet, I'll look into it, thanks!
Your steering wheel is on the wrong side. Is this a mirror image?
There's no right or wrong. Only left and right. This is LHD, I'm not in the UK
@@comcarclub ... Ok. You are Irish. They have everything painted green.
@@adapaitsmynameTop o' the mornin' ta ya
So it worked just like that? No reprogramming ? It can’t be
no, it was programmed by the seller
Hi I've got a quick question since i couldn't find the answer anywhere. When you connect your phone through BT to the radio and stream music, are you able to control music with buttons on steering wheel? I mean change song back and forth, volume up and down or answer a call? I've got an NG4 unit and i'm thinging about switching to RNEG2 to make my life easier since i listen to music a lot and its a bit a pain in the ass to do everyting with phone during driving. Best regards :)
YES. With the rneg2, steering wheel buttons all work perfectly. The only thing that I wish it had was some kind of function for the button on the tip of the left stalk, as on my RD45, it activated the voice assistant. But that's a minor thing
..which isn't that great either. Sometimes it just stops and you get a black screen. But when radio is still on, try this:
Stop the car, lock the car, and wait untill there's nothing lit on the dashboard. You might even see your gauge dial make a small movement as the power is shut down. Wait a few seconds, remember you are still in a locked car. Now start the vehicle when possible. Likely the screen gives a startsplash image.
Kind-a bs from citroen that you have to change the screen too, since its only slightly different main unit and screen should only be for showing its functions.
Agreed!
Hello i m portugueses, do you wanna sell the old rádio and display for my C5 X7 please, tank you
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Plates for removing the radio are available everywhere. Even on eBay. It looks like you're not very good with a screwdriver. Where have you been all your life?