How to set up Ignition Timing Control for EFI, Fitech, Sniper, Part 1 - Distributor Lock Out
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Upgrade time! Yanking my HEI distributor, and replacing it with a MSD ProBillet 2 wire, to utilize FiTech's built in electronic Timing Control. If you're new to FiTech systems, be sure to watch my install playlist, and ask questions!
In this video, "How to set up Ignition Timing Control for EFI, Fitech, Sniper - Distributor Lock Out" we go through what type of distributor is required, and exactly how to set it up, by locking out the mechanical advance, installing a phasable rotor, and replacing the steel cam gear with a Composite Gear. Subscribe to follow along with the process, and for other project ideas for your ride!
Here's part 2, setting up the FiTech Handheld settings for Timing Control.
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The car fired up! Now I’m working on the timing.
Yessss! Congrats!
Hey, I am surprised that Fitech has not given you a 10% off code for you to pass on to your viewers for all the free PR you have given them. Good job on keeping Pontiac power in the public eye.
Me too! ha, ha... no worries, they've been very helpful with my questions, and dyno tuning my car. Thanks!
Glad to see another video from you. Cruise stuff is ok, but I can see that around here. Although cars are nicer in So. Cal than northern Indiana
Thanks Mike!
Great video Mike. This is on my wish list!
Thanks Brother! Yeah, I should've done this a long, long time ago! Love it!
Good video on the set up of the lockout of the dizzy . Not many around
Thanks Craig!
Awsome T-shirt , now on to watch the rest of the video :D
Ha! Thanks brother!
great explanation
Thanks for the comment!
I run ignition control on my Holley Sniper. Much easier to dial in you tune than messing with the springs and weights.
Awesome! Thanks for the comment!
Progression Ignition system allows carburetor equipped engines to have the most incremental timing adjustments w/out EFI or an expensive control system.
Good to know! Thanks!
Good tip I did not know about the polymer gear in building a 454 roller but I would suspect that the button keeps everything in place have to do some more research on one thanks
Yeah, I left a link in the description... if you haven't heard of BOP Engineering... you're welcome. Ha, ha... have fun!
Chevy may need a cam button to limit cam end play. Pontiac uses a block mounted plate to limit end play. Neither have anything to do with why you need to run a softer distributor gear on most aftermarket roller cams that come with billet distributor gears. That’s a metal compatibility issue.
@@stevebrown6175 Agreed. There's a little bit more shock loading with steeper cam lobs, which can cause havoc for some steel distributor gears... I'm playing it safe on mine, and don't know if a polymer gear exists for Chevy's? Thanks for the comment!
@@FastMonty I run the .491 BOP composite gear as well. When I put the Hyperspark distributor in, I needed the .500 gear. I said screw it and just drilled it out to .500. So far so good with about 500 miles since drilling it 👍🏽
@@stevebrown6175 Ha! Welp, it's only 0.009" more... I guess that would work, should've thought of that before selling my HEI unit. ha, ha... thanks for sharing!
Mike, are you running the stock frame with the 19" x 8.5" and 20" x 10" without issue? The car and your video's are very informative keep up the good work.
Stock Frame... if you measure really really really good, you can add 1/2" to both front and rear widths. Thanks for the comment! Have fun!
OK I have ordered the Ultra Ram Air today
Nice! That sounds like a blast! Have fun!
@@FastMonty I will keep you posted and may ask some questions along the way Ty
@@DadsOleGarage-jz3hw Sounds good!
@@FastMonty do you know anyone running This Ultra Ram system And dose it have timing control
@@DadsOleGarage-jz3hw I do not. My understanding is the FiTech LS systems allow you more flexibility for tuning, fuel, spark, etc... sorry, I'm not super familiar with it.
Hello Mike, I am interested in your HEI. Please let me know if you still have it. I like your new ignition and fuel delivery systems.
Hey Gonzalo... I do have an interested party, but if that falls apart, I'll let you know. Shoot me an email... fastmontysgarage at gmail
You wait until you drive the car and tuned up now with timing control. You will notice the difference and go why did I wait so long
Ha! Totally agreed! I'm glad I finally got it done. Thanks again!
Hello sir , question why do you have to turn shaft 180° ? I have a Chevy can get it to run correct. I bought it used . Thanks
If you want to use the timing control built into a Fuel Injection system, Like FiTech, MSD Sniper, etc... the distributor mechanical advance needs to be locked out. That's why you change mounting holes from slotted, to a fixed hole, preventing the mechanical advance to work. Hope that helps.
@@FastMonty thanks 👍🙏
Alright Sr. What’s up with those thick spark plug wires Where can I get me a set of those!
Ahhh is that part of the fuel injection system?
The wires are from Davis Unified Ignition. I'm pretty sure MSD makes some awesome wires too. Have fun!
I have a 1990 dakota and it seems as if it never came with vacuum advance…
I don't know what's stock on that either... but, all engines have a way of adding timing at idle. Most of the time it's vacuum advance. OR, it has some sort of Fuel Injection system. Let us know what you find out!
I need it
Yeah brother, game changer.
I will buy the hei distributor
Thanks Brother! But, it's already sold. @@thomaswilliams4215
Any MPG results in for this one upgrade??
Really tough to say because I've been mashing the pedal down everywhere I go. Ha, ha... in theory, yes, efficiency is improved.
i have 73 trans am 455 that i would like to install a fitech efi ,can i use a factory distributor with a pretronix ignitor ( its not a pretonix 3) with locking out timing ? if so there isn't a whole for the little threaded dow to set in where the weights were mounted to to set in after i rotate the shaft to lock it, any information is appreciated ,i would like to use the factory style distributor,
Great question... my understanding is you need a 2 wire distributor AND the ability to lock out the mechanical advance. If you can't do that, maybe there's one on the market that looks stock? Let us know if you find one!
the pretronix ignitor converts the points to electronic ignition so now it is two wire
Good to know! Still need to lock the mechanical advance, somehow? @@lorrainedilauro5210
Hey mate. How do I know what wire goes where for the dizzy. My dizzy has a different plug and different coloured wires
Good question... I would suspect that Google is your friend. you're going to have to find that out from the manufacturer of the distributor. Good luck!
@@FastMonty gday mate thanks for your reply. After a decent sleep I realised I could work this out with a multimeter. I had it correct. Still I can’t get a spark it’s driving me nuts. Hours of google and still no luck.
Think I’ve wired the coil up wrong. Yours seems to have a lot of wires. Does it require more wires then just what the instructions say
Sorry mate can I ask what’s the voltage coming from the throttle body timing control plug. The 2 wires that go to the dizzy
@@robertmaher2981 Sorry to hear that... wish I was there to help. I know you'll figure it out, keep at it!