Do Air Conditioners Love Shade?

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  • čas přidán 8. 12. 2023
  • Is your air conditioner better off being in the shade or does it really not mind roasting in the sun all day? There's a lot of debate on whether putting an air conditioner in a shady spot makes any difference in efficiency and electricity consumption or not. I decided to dig into this and see for myself what the truth really is. It seems like the professionals tend to agree that shade makes no difference at all whereas homeowners that tried it both ways claim that having the AC in the shade actually makes the unit run less and cool down the house a little faster. Which in turn lowers the electric bill as well. In my opinion, there is no hard evidence to support either side but personally I side with those homeowners and agree that putting your air conditioner in the shade if possible is a good idea. Especially if you live in a hot climate. At the very least you get to be in the shade while working on it if it ever breaks down.
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  • @WordofAdviceTV
    @WordofAdviceTV  Před 7 měsíci +4

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  • @henrymorgan3982
    @henrymorgan3982 Před 13 dny +52

    The LONG term shade WILL make a difference. Do what you want to do, but HEAT is the killer of any machine. Any machine.

    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 Před 11 dny +2

      I'd like to say in summer shade will add a little efficiency. In winter sun will add efficiency. The reason for this is because in the summer you're trying to pump heat out and the sun will make it harder to cool the coils. However, in winter you're trying to pump heat into the house meaning that sun will help heat the coils. Depending on your area and whether you're using an A/C compressor or a heat pump will affect the calculation as to whether or not placing it in the shade is preferable.

  • @rickstokes2239
    @rickstokes2239 Před 27 dny +84

    In Phoenix AZ where the heat directly on the unit is so hot you can’t touch it - the shade absolutely matters.

    • @garcjr
      @garcjr Před 15 dny +1

      Oh yes, luckily, my unit is on the ground but I will be adding shade cloth above it.

    • @catsupchutney
      @catsupchutney Před 13 dny +1

      Seems to me heat almost always adversely impacts equipment, so if you can construct a (possibly covered) lathe fence around the unit, it will reduce noise and lower temperatures, and that's a good thing.

    • @arizonaf2503
      @arizonaf2503 Před 9 dny

      Based on what? Because you said so.

    • @rickstokes2239
      @rickstokes2239 Před 9 dny

      @@arizonaf2503 Based on testing it

    • @arizonaf2503
      @arizonaf2503 Před 9 dny

      @@rickstokes2239
      How'd you test it??? I was on a roof all day today servicing ACs... it's what I do. Please tell of your test.

  • @1timby
    @1timby Před 15 dny +69

    It amazes me how many folks deny the laws of physics. The effects of heat on an AC will always follow the laws of physics. Thermodynamics has to affect AC. The cooler the unit and the air would drastically affect the cooling. Also, humidity is a huge factor. We live in the south where summer temps are typically above the high 90s and we will have many days where the temps don't drop below 100 even at night. Shading the AC affects the AC's load and will make it more effective just because the components are cooler.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 13 dny +5

      Yeah, that's why spraying a struggling unit with a water hose yields noticeable positive results, particularly on ones in the sun

    • @xeridea
      @xeridea Před 11 dny

      @@InfernosReaper The cooling from water isn't necessarily from the air around it, it is from the evaporative cooling effect on the unit. The same way your body cools from sweating. Many window units have a splasher that spashes condensate water to aid in cooling the coils. The downside of using hosewater, such as with a misting system is you can get hard water buildup on the coils, unless you use distilled water.
      PS, you should probably do a test before claiming tests are invalid. 1 hour testing is better than 0 testing. And if you don't like the test.... do it yourself before claiming you know the answer.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 11 dny +2

      @@xerideaIt's very strange how you understand the all that with the first part within your post, but apparently don't understand that if the ambient temperature around the unit is cooler it can dissipate heat better.
      If you did, you wouldn't be trash-talking me over someone else doing poor-testing and declaring it law.
      If I wanted to deal with such shoddy science, I'd be subscribed to the Game Theory channel...

    • @arizonaf2503
      @arizonaf2503 Před 10 dny +2

      Wrong wrong wrong. Leave HVAC to the pros. Shaded vs in the sun is not worth even talking about. You want to discuss airflow, superheat, sub-cooling then you might be on to something even then you've just scratched the surface. Everyone stay cool and have a nice summer 👋

    • @jeremymyers5643
      @jeremymyers5643 Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@arizonaf2503 I dunno, radiant heat is heat bottom line. Cooler condenser means less load on compressor, maybe I'm wrong

  • @crazysquirrel9425
    @crazysquirrel9425 Před 17 dny +23

    Sun heats metal. Metal conducts heat to the refrigerant. Compressor works harder.
    Is your car cooler in a hot parking lot or under a shade tree?
    Does it take longer to cool your car after sitting in that parking lot or under a shade tree?
    If you have AC thieves, it might be good to put the unit on top of the house.
    Sun beaming in one standard sized window adds 5,000 btu's of heat per hour.
    5 windows like that is about 1 ton of AC needed.
    Water heat exchangers are super efficient. Watering down (no high pressure) your A/C coils can save money on electricity. Water cooled heat exchangers are typically used in commercial ice machines. They significantly increase ice production.
    Try this - have your A/C running on a hot dry day.
    Gently water down the coils for a minute or so.
    LISTEN to the change in sound.
    You can also feel the air on top of the unit change temperature too.

  • @EP1CNELSON
    @EP1CNELSON Před 13 dny +15

    pulling cooler air through the coil will make subcooling faster which increases efficiency

  • @shalehausler4383
    @shalehausler4383 Před 18 dny +12

    An air-conditioner is a heat exchanger. All it does is move heat from one area to a different area, in this case fr9m inside of your home to outside. The outside unit (condenser) has to get rid of the heat absorbed by the inside unit (evaporator). The more efficiency the condenser can get rid of the heat, the more efficient the system can operate.
    Shade can aid in system efficiency so long as air flow is not restricted, and or recirculated.

    • @r410a6
      @r410a6 Před 5 dny +1

      Yes!!! Pressure is directly proportional to temperature. And esp R410a refrigerants works better when it’s in the shade.The closer the ambient temp is to the operating temp.Heat will be harder to dissipate.

  • @paulrozinski1488
    @paulrozinski1488 Před 6 měsíci +24

    Another no- nonsense video , keep em comin’ Jay. Stay well my friend .👍

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thank you sir! Glad you liked the video. 🙂 Have a wonderful rest of the weekend!

  • @MrRightNow
    @MrRightNow Před 14 dny +9

    The job of a condenser is to cool down and liquefy the refrigerant. The cooler the refrigerant the colder your AC will blow and the faster it will cool down your house, thus reducing the energy consumption and preventing the compressor from running excessively on a hot day thus extending the life of the compressor and reducing your power bill at the same time.
    My compressor is in the shade and it's almost 30 years old. My neighbors have changed their AC system twice over the same years, spending many many thousands of dollars. So it's not just the electric bill where you save the $$$.

    • @xeridea
      @xeridea Před 11 dny

      Video poster can't be bothered to know why anything works, he just decided an answer with no reasoning, then more or less ranted how everyone was wrong, with no valid reasoning.

  • @stardust-rv7mr
    @stardust-rv7mr Před 6 měsíci +37

    Shade is the only way to go!

    • @c5cpe
      @c5cpe Před 28 dny

      I know it seems anal retentive, but I observed the sun’s trajectory in my backyard and placed a shading device adjacent to my ac unit, shading it for the majority of the sun’s heat exposure.
      Learned this hack at work: people who arrived early parked under the shade. As the sun moved, it was smarter to have my car cool when I got off from work, several feet from the shade💯

  • @lawrencecarroll2031
    @lawrencecarroll2031 Před 6 měsíci +14

    My house faces South so my a/c is on North or rear side. I put it under the deck and there is about 6 feet of clearance above it. I did that to shade and protect it from possible hail damage. Great video Jay.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +3

      I say that was a great choice! Good placement. Glad you liked the video, thank you for stopping by!

  • @jjjohn5914
    @jjjohn5914 Před 15 dny +9

    Best to just plant trees around the house for shade.

  • @Pro1er
    @Pro1er Před 23 dny +17

    About 30 years or so ago I bought an A/C unit that I self-installed from a guy I knew that owned an HVAC company. He told me that he had a hose that would drip water on his unit to help cool the condenser. While I would never personally do that they now sell misters for that same purpose. You can find videos on CZcams if you're interested.

    • @MrGriff305
      @MrGriff305 Před 16 dny +4

      The misters ruin the coils.. shouldn't have constant water

    • @TheScrubmuffin69
      @TheScrubmuffin69 Před 15 dny +3

      Window ac units now do not have a drain plug for the condensation to drip from. Instead, the fan hits the built up water and sprays it on the condenser, just like what you said. Pretty smart

    • @Pro1er
      @Pro1er Před 15 dny +1

      @@MrGriff305 Which is why I said that I would never personally never use a mister, the minerals in the water are constantly building-up scale on the condenser which in the long term will cut down on the efficiency of the unit.

    • @peter-pg5yc
      @peter-pg5yc Před 13 dny

      @@TheScrubmuffin69 In hong kong it must be sealed or a drain to the ground. the law

  • @PaulaB-iq3ln
    @PaulaB-iq3ln Před 5 měsíci +7

    Good thoughts. Thank you for sharing. Heat is our major concern in the south. Direct sunlight / heat destroys over time. No matter what surface.

  • @jimhill6586
    @jimhill6586 Před 7 dny +2

    My home in Washington state has the condenser/compressor on the north side. The house cools fast in July August.
    Then I have a winter retreat in AZ and the condenser/compressor is located on the north side behind a block wall about 2 feet away. When I leave either place, I cover the condenser unit to keep debris or dust out of it. When I arrive, I take the cover(s) off. The cover does have vent panels on them to prevent to much heat or moisture captured in the unit.
    My Washington AC had a complete shutdown this year. The contactor relay on the compressor shorted out, blew the transformer which also shut off the control board. Replaced the contactor relay and while replacing the transformer installed a fuse on the 24 volt output side. I keep a close check on things, keep them clean, change air filters. I observe a cycle for both heat and cool to see and hear anything odd, like a start strain or a delayed heat cycle start. The maintenance is simple, keeps things reliable.

  • @laymansworld9858
    @laymansworld9858 Před 15 dny +5

    Water defiantly helps, I know because I retired from a compressor station and we had a condenser on an air compressor control unit. Every summer when the ambient temps would get over 100 degrees we would place a sprinkler on the condenser and it would give us just enough extra cooling to make it through the day. But, we did find out we had to use soft water or it would calcify the coils on the unit, so I wouldn't advise letting water directly contact the condenser unless it is soft water.

  • @jec_ecart
    @jec_ecart Před 24 dny +5

    Shade matters 100%
    Where I live, ambient can hit 50.c during a heat wave. ACs won't work in direct sun.

  • @davesauerzopf6980
    @davesauerzopf6980 Před 5 dny +2

    Changing the filters in the house regularly is very important as well as not using a high density type of filter. Cleaning the outdoor coils is a must.

  • @lhr1701
    @lhr1701 Před 12 dny +4

    Your AC wants to breathe ! So putting a tent over it may block the sun , it will also restrict air flow . And maybe even causing the HOT air to bunce back at it ! You can keep your AC cool by using a sprinkler but that will just waste water and that to is a NO NO . My suggestion is to cover it with a shade made from some sort of slats so it can block the sun and allow the hot air to flow away from the unit . I'm sure you have seen these types of screens being used on modern buildings today .

  • @sheepdog3828
    @sheepdog3828 Před 23 dny +4

    I built a sun panel. Peak summer when sun travels full west, unit is in shade.
    After mowing yard, unit get blown clean and rinsed.
    Yup, big help. Every millamp helps.

  • @johnwarner4809
    @johnwarner4809 Před 22 dny +5

    The greater the differential in temperature between the outside air and the coils inside the unit, the more heat that's going to be dissipated, meaning the easier it's going to be to cool the house. Also, the cooler the running temperature of the compressor inside the unit, the longer it's going to last. Neither of these things can be determined easily within in an hour or two. They are facts that come with usage and monitoring over months and years.

  • @daneflanigan
    @daneflanigan Před 6 měsíci +5

    Interesting info - great video. In Palm Springs last week, and a lot of the homes had their hvac units elevate off the ground, attached to the side of the house. After seeing your video I understand why.

    • @TheWilferch
      @TheWilferch Před 22 dny +3

      Elevated / attached to the house construction.... is typical when the climate includes snow to give clearance.....or maybe even to prevent damage from occasional high-water during flooding conditions in other geographies...all dependent on local weather conditions being recognized.

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide Před 6 měsíci +9

    The way to really test this would be two identical tract houses, and somehow set the temps exactly the same

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yup.. Would be a little challenging to do 😅

  • @sheilam4964
    @sheilam4964 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Makes a lot of sense. Thx for filming this and sharing it with us. 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +3

      You bet! Thank you for stopping by for the new video. Have a Merry Christmas!!

    • @sheilam4964
      @sheilam4964 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@WordofAdviceTV - Merry Christmas to you as well.

  • @afreezaphorogiancossack2194

    This is really sensible. I've just viewed another video that claimed that shading your ac is a bad idea in general, and the argument of course was that if you block the airflow with the shade you're defeating the whole purpose. So with that understanding, of course it's a good idea to have your AC in the shade given that you don't block the fricking air flow. And I suppose also the caveat that it's only going to make so much difference.

    • @doverbeachcomber
      @doverbeachcomber Před 11 dny +1

      And note: the one video offered here as an example of providing shade shows someone putting up a low patio umbrella right over the AC unit, impeding the airflow.

  • @emo65170.
    @emo65170. Před 17 dny +2

    As the condenser is a heat exchanger, it makes sense to locate the unit in an area where the surrounding air is coolest. I've also heard that installing a condenser in an area where a cross wind can carry away the heat is also beneficial.

  • @TraumaChaplain
    @TraumaChaplain Před 6 měsíci +1

    One of the things that has helped me was to clean the fins really well on the outside as well as on the inside and coat them with the ceramic coating like Simix

  • @LunkerFishing
    @LunkerFishing Před 6 měsíci +2

    Another issue may be that the fan motor in a sunny location would get much hotter than the shade and not last as long. My compressor fan is scheduled to be replaced under warranty next week in Central Florida. My compressor is on the south side of the house and in the sun most of the day. My pool pump motor in on the same side of the house and I built a covering over the top 3' above it for shade. So far so good compared to previous pool motors that burned out or the bearings went bad prematurely.

  • @hoss83
    @hoss83 Před měsícem +7

    I live in Plant City, Florida and on Sunday the day before Memorial Day I temped the air coming out of my air vents and the were as high as 64-65 degrees at 3 o'clock in the afternoon. My wife's office which is the hottest room in the house was at 68 degrees. I did the same test with my temp gun before the sun came up and the air coming out was 58 degrees, so in my opinion the shade has to make some what of a difference.

    • @amiatroll6347
      @amiatroll6347 Před 25 dny +1

      Do you have ducts in a poorly insulated attic?

    • @hoss83
      @hoss83 Před 25 dny

      @@amiatroll6347 we had new insulation done about 4 years ago.

    • @warenmann1042
      @warenmann1042 Před 7 dny +2

      It does, on both the system and building. Extreme temperatures hot or cold is the enemy of everything. We all (everything) have our peak/ desired operating range...

  • @paulboomer7109
    @paulboomer7109 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Units will last longer in the shade because it has a chance of cooling down between cycle's!

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +5

      There's that too. I believe that keeping the unit cooler overall is better. More efficient and not as hard on the condenser.

    • @cyrilasfrenchyaz
      @cyrilasfrenchyaz Před 6 měsíci +3

      Compressor is cooled down from the refrigerant, not the ambient air so it doesn't matter.

  • @csned2674
    @csned2674 Před 6 dny +2

    It's a cool day here in the Mojave Desert, only 108 here right now. With that said, I just ran a quick test on my A/C unit that sits on the sun side of the house using my Enphase App on the "Live Status" page. With the A/C unit running, and various other appliances on, I was consuming 7.8 Kw. I then shaded the condenser unit and consumption did not change (the unit was already hot). I then turned on the hose and sprayed down the outer coils of the condenser and the consumption immediately dropped down to 5.7 Kw. I turned the water off and the consumption slowly climbed back up to 7.8Kw as the coils dried.
    What did I learn/prove to myself? If you can keep the coils cool, the condenser doesn't have to work as hard and power consumption goes down, a lot in fact. This would amount to a big savings over the summer. I suspect however, that if I continuously run water over the coils throughout the summer, I'll have a buildup on the coils that will eventually impede the cooling capacity. How do you win? IDK, need a smart guy to figure out how accomplish cooling the coils without the buildup.

  • @rzh3443
    @rzh3443 Před 6 měsíci +2

    "Very interesting" as Arte Johnson used to say on Laugh In. You covered all the bases as usual ! Inspired by your film , I checked the install manual for my Rheem AC. Shows clearances for air circulation , servicing clearances and some recommendations for install locations in corrosive environments ( e.g. near salt water). It does recommend elevating the unit above the base slab, if possible, as that can extend the life of the bottom pan and to not let lawn sprinklers spray on it. I suppose the outer shell of the unit does supply some temp. relief to the compressor ? What I really need is your learned advice on tank versus tankless water heaters. That might really generate some money differentials.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Glad to hear you found the video interesting! Thank you for sharing the further insights you got from your manual. I have little experience with tankless water heaters so I would need to do some homework before making any conclusions. I'll add this video to the list, thank you for the suggestion!

  • @GeoFry3
    @GeoFry3 Před 11 dny +1

    The reason commercial units are typically on the roof are to keep vandals (aka the customer) away from them and to reduce the length of the runs of piped in refrigerant.
    When you can put it on the north side or the east side. The north side gets the most shade all day. The next best is the east side since the heat load in the building is lowest in the mornings, and the unit is shaded on the afternoon when it is highest.

  • @everssteven
    @everssteven Před 10 dny +2

    Similar concept but I follow the timing and track of the sun. My thermostat is programmed to cool down the house to 70 very early morning when the sun doesn’t hit my unit yet. I let the temp in the house slowly rise to 80 during the day and only by late afternoon the unit will run again to maintain that. By that time it’s in the shade again since the sun is at the other side of the house by then. Unit is on south side, good location for winter when it functions as heatpump. For summer I had to be creative using the thermostat program.

  • @therealjeepking
    @therealjeepking Před 12 dny +1

    One thing worth considering is that the compressor and other components will have a better opportunity to cool down between cycles if it’s in the shade. Metal surfaces sitting in the sun around here can easily hit 160° and up. I used to have bad problems with heat soak whenever it was in the Mid90s or higher. My condenser unit was also in direct sunlight from 11 AM till sunset. This year I put up a shed which gives it shade. And while that isn’t the only variable which changed this year, I definitely think it helped because I haven’t run into the problem at all yet.

  • @kolsen6330
    @kolsen6330 Před 14 dny +1

    When I had a tin roof put on my house last year, I had the roofers make a little "roof" over the outdoor part of my mini split system. The tin is pitched like a roof and sits about 3 inches above it and sticks about 6 inches out to the sides. . They formed the roofing tin so it just kind of snaps on. This is mainly to keep the rain and snow off it but does shade it without blocking anything.

  • @arkrainflood
    @arkrainflood Před 6 měsíci +15

    i planted a holly tree to shade the ac units. direct sun has to cause increased load. may not be a lot, but even a little helps.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +4

      I only agree! Shade from a tree is a great option. 👍👍

  • @johnboylong40
    @johnboylong40 Před 23 dny +5

    Just provide plenty of breathing space for the unit and don’t inhibit the top of the units exhaust flow

  • @bobwelch5056
    @bobwelch5056 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thanks Jay and Merry Christmas

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thank you! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!! God bless you!

  • @SteveSabbai
    @SteveSabbai Před 22 dny +5

    @4:17 that "shade" is blocking the top exhaust. All it is doing is forcing the hot air back down towards the condenser. The homeowner is doing more harm than good.

  • @DSplatter
    @DSplatter Před 17 dny +7

    If you’ve ever lived somewhere that gets 125+ in the summer, then you know the answer to this question….

  • @MrCreed145
    @MrCreed145 Před 13 dny +2

    I put a sun sail over mine in Florida, the house stays 1-2 degrees cooler at peak when its 99-115 outside. Without shade, with AC set to 68, it will get up to 74-75. After the sun sail it will only get up to 72-73.

  • @Phrancis5
    @Phrancis5 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I've gotten 4 contractor quotes for an new central AC and asked each one if relocating the unit to the shady side of the house would be better. They all said no, but I can see where cooler ambient air temps around the unit logically should help. Maybe it's just not worth it in the PNW - although our summers are getting hotter and longer.

    • @Flury94
      @Flury94 Před 23 dny +2

      HVAC/R apprentice here, and in my limited time in the field in Oregon I can assure you, we replace far less parts on units that are shaded vs not.

    • @INoIFearIGaming
      @INoIFearIGaming Před 6 dny +1

      Of course the people trying to sell more units are gonna tell you that. The faster your unit breaks, the sooner they'll be back to make more money from you.

  • @johnhwang339
    @johnhwang339 Před 21 dnem +1

    I read an article years back that the government building in the city of Azusa, CA had the condenser submerged in ice cold water. At night when it was cooler, refrigeration freezes the water to ice so during the day, the heat exchange on the condenser is in a bath of ice water.

  • @tonep3168
    @tonep3168 Před 6 měsíci +5

    You seem like the perfect person to do this test properly.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Thank you! Doing this test properly would be a bit difficult so I dont know if I will ever get around to trying it. 😅

    • @tonep3168
      @tonep3168 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@WordofAdviceTV Oh I totally get you. But maybe start small, like if others have done 30 min tests, make yours last say 8 hours? Then if there is nothing clear in the data, you would not have wasted hundreds or more hours for no reason.

  • @Mr.How-To
    @Mr.How-To Před 13 dny +1

    Wow! Awesome video! The answer came right at the beginning! I like this video model!

  • @HugoCamacho-on8he
    @HugoCamacho-on8he Před 2 dny +1

    I use a misting system, wrapped it around the unit with zip ties, it’s connected to hose on a timer, did all shade stuff and mist is the way to go can get it any home improvement or Amazon , I cut mine down to size 10 jets all I need and used the rest for patio, I’m in San Bernardino it’s freaking hot right now, take care
    Forgot to add point the jets away from the unit , the unit will draw in the cool mist

  • @martinhogan5970
    @martinhogan5970 Před měsícem +3

    Love your presentation!!

  • @ajitkhad
    @ajitkhad Před 13 dny +1

    I brought my ac 2 years ago, and in the first month/season itself I saw that my energy bill almost tripled. Just with a 1.5 ton AC. I figured out that there were multiple factors that made the matters worse. One of them being lack of leakage protection, which meant that the AC had to work more than it had to. Another was certainly that the outdoor unit was partly in the direct sunlight which obviously made things worse. Although I could not use the AC this summer (the hottest summer ever) due to the house being renovated and new floors constructed. I'm positive that if I can get rid of the major culprits, my bill wont skyrocket and the AC would work more efficiently. I'm also sure that setting the optimal temperature (24-26 degrees C) will actually help reduce unnecessary stress on the AC. Hope this helps.

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 Před 19 dny +5

    Shade is good but should be provided by products that are not opaque to wind.

  • @ziggybender9125
    @ziggybender9125 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Good info, I'd like to expand on one aspect though. People generally think in terms of average climate of a large area or State while ignoring the micro climates that exist within those areas. For example I live on Kauai where it doesn't get super duper hot but there are a few houses as well as a few select buildings in condominium properties that have their own heat sink going on to where if you walk 50-100 ft away to another building it feels entirely differently. It still becomes a necessary placement to put the unit in the hot areas of these buildings sometimes which has a high likelihood of affecting unit performance.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      That's interesting! I did not consider that,. THank you for explaining, this is good to know.

  • @andresbarragan8595
    @andresbarragan8595 Před 6 měsíci +3

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    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +4

      God bless you my friend!! Thank you for watching from Chicago, glad you liked the video!

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      @ubeuonly Před 24 dny

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      @ubeuonly Před 24 dny

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  • @mikeazeka1753
    @mikeazeka1753 Před 13 dny +2

    Refrigeration always always works off a temperature differential within the operating range of the refrigerant. If the condenser isn't cool enough, very little cooling occurs, so if you're in a locale where the condenser is in hot sunlight during the afternoon, it won't cool very efficiently. But also, air flow is very important, so any solution mustn't restrict air flow, nor cause warm air to recirculate down back to the condenser inlets.

  • @matthewhenderson2236
    @matthewhenderson2236 Před 4 dny +1

    Of course having shade over the unit will to some degree improve its heat exchange capacity. But don’t block the free flow of the exhaust air to the point of causeing a recirculating effect.

  • @mr-vet
    @mr-vet Před 11 dny +2

    Fortunately, my two AC condensers are on the east side of my house-I live on a tree covered lot; the house has trees (lots of yellow poplars and red maples) shielding quite a bit of sunlight on all but the north side (front) of my house.

  • @battlefieldbartender5671
    @battlefieldbartender5671 Před 6 měsíci +3

    This was great, thank you!

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Glad you liked it! Have a marvelous rest of the weekend my friend!

  • @idandez
    @idandez Před 6 měsíci +3

    Very useful and if we stick around to the end... entertaining! lol .... Thanks for another 'cool' video.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Haha glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for sticking around till the end 😉

  • @Fish-Erman
    @Fish-Erman Před 18 dny

    I had my units moved from the south side of my house, where they were baking in the sun all day, to the northeast side, in the shade all day. It made an absolutely enormous difference!!

  • @Marvinfj32
    @Marvinfj32 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Agree, not enough time.

  • @kdomster9141
    @kdomster9141 Před 29 dny +2

    Finally some logic ! It makes total sense .

  • @HowdyFolksGaming
    @HowdyFolksGaming Před 10 dny +2

    Even if it was only a minimal difference over the span of a half hour, that would still add up to decent savings and efficiency over the course of a decade.
    Gotta think big picture, folks.

  • @BluTooph
    @BluTooph Před 8 dny +1

    Yes, shade is better. Those short tests are not a good measure it takes hours to get to operating stasis. The sun's added heat increases head pressures, you just don't want to restrict airflow above the unit, heat removal is key. The biggest enemy of condenser efficiency and heat removal is a dirty coil, keep your condensing coils clean. Dust, pollen, grease (roof top units) are the culprits. Recently I had a Bryant scroll 3T unit R410a running high head pressure of near 600psi, landscapers had mulched under the unit and covered the pedestal up to the bottom......there was even mulch inside....cleaned the coil removed the piled up mulch around it and inside removed the sound wrapper, the high side pressure came down to 425PSI in 97F suction 125psi ambient full sun exposure after running an hour, high pressure lock outs no more.

  • @hhjhj393
    @hhjhj393 Před 13 dny +2

    The problem I have found with a lot of things in life is that realistically for most people it doesn't actually make sense to dedicate the time, money, and energy on setting up some nice enclosure for the AC.
    If you went to resale your house buyers wouldn't really care about your enclosure.
    So the shading would have to save you enough money in energy costs and maintenance costs to offset it's construction, which probably could happen, but that's the ultimate crux of the issue, you have to figure out what that time table looks like.
    Are most people really going to wait 10 years to see a return on their investment? 5 years? 1 year? It all depends on how quickly that return happens.
    This is the story of pretty much everything lol. It has to return the invesment. Things can return investment over but the longer it takes the less ideal it becomes.

  • @johnhubert339
    @johnhubert339 Před 9 dny +1

    The amount of shade is also a huge factor. 10 sf of shade vs. 100 sf of shade is very different.

  • @danslamusique
    @danslamusique Před 10 dny +1

    Same question but with a heat pump. Does it work better in the sun? Yes

  • @davidmckinney6577
    @davidmckinney6577 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hey 👋 good buddy I just found this video, good to see you Jay 👍. Well today is the one year anniversary 😢of my little Arnold death. A friend of mine on CZcams, Leo the beagle put Arnold pic on her community page for been a lot of nice heartfelt comments ♥️ but it's been a rough day I haven't went anywhere today its been a nice day I made a metal framed gazebo around Bigfoot and Arnold Graves and I welded it out of angle iron and put a heavy duty canvas cover and it's enclosed in to keep out leaves and rain. I've also been busy raking leaves 🍃 now there's a job I never liked doing but have to..hope everything is going well for you and your family I was thinking about you earlier wondering what my good ol buddy was up to..take care and God bless you and your family Jay much love to you all and thank you for being my friend I really appreciate you buddy..love you all hope you have a wonderful blessed Christmas 🎄.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hey David!! Wow time flies.. It's already been a year since Arnold died. ☹ This time of the year will always be a time of remembrance for you but I'm happy to hear you have a community that supports you through this. The metal framed gazebo is a really cool idea, almost like a monument. It sounds like you have recovered a bit now too if you are tackling the leaves. I never liked raking leaves either so I can sympathize! We are doing good here, transitioning to a new church, meeting new people. Other than that, nothing really exciting to report. May the Lord bless you in the final days of this year in many ways! I'm glad I could be here for you, along with your other CZcams buddies. May you have a wonderful, blessed Merry Christmas as well my friend! 🎄🎄 Aloha from Hawaii!! 🌴♥☀

  • @johnd4348
    @johnd4348 Před 23 dny +2

    Yes shade makes a difference. At least to the service tech working on it. I lived in Mohave desert and we even had evap coolers blowing cooler air on them. to lower condensing temperature.

  • @awesomeness7117
    @awesomeness7117 Před 9 dny +1

    You can spray the unit. It will he fine, infact a company even sells a setup for ac units to spray water on them

  • @everythingmatters6308
    @everythingmatters6308 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I studied electronics in tech school and was taught that heat is your enemy in electronics. You want to keep the electronic components cool to prolong their lifespan. That is why, on the job, we would use compressed air to blow dust off circuit board components after opening up items to make repairs. Dust acts like a blanket and traps heat. So keeping the AC shaded makes sense.

  • @TheStigma
    @TheStigma Před 25 dny +2

    The actual condenser is inside a shell which blocks all the sunlight, and you have a quite large volume of air constantly circulating - so the impact of direct sunlight is probably much less drastic than you think. Also, because the heat is forcibly ejected from the coolant gas at the compression stage unlike in a watercooling radiator, so I don't think you would see much difference from the condenser being a little hotter. Not until you start to reach the maximum capacity of the condenser at least (which certainly could happen for units that are a bit undersized or during extreme weather). All in all I would expect to see a small difference in energy usage that would be difficult to detect outside of a controlled testing environment. In practial use the outside conditions have way too many constantly changing factors to do any meaningful comparison testing. Im sure the manufacturers have done these types of test, but they are rarely keen to share their data (which is a shame). I'm sure there are HVAC enginershere with decades of experience that know these things much better than me though.
    IMO there are lots of other good (probably more impactful) reasons to put you unit in a protected place or a covering though. Direct exposure to UV, wind and rain causes a lot of wear and tear. Coatings fail and things start to rust, dust and debris gets stuck in the grills decreasing efficiency ect. Condenser units may be made to withstand outside conditions, but they will certainly run better and for longer in a more protected space.

    • @r410a6
      @r410a6 Před 4 dny

      I understand your reasoning.But when these units go out in nature,that’s when the true test begins over a period of time(remember mass production)I know specifically for r410a gas.(and jus like any other refrigerants)theirs a pressure temperature relationship.And I tell you that the unit will use more energy if the ambient temp is near the operating temp.And also not to mention the components inside the equipment that’s has a temp point(caps,relays etc)remember it’s not how it’s affected once but the how consistent and constant the the elements are on the a/c.

  • @DarthPoyner
    @DarthPoyner Před 3 dny +1

    Wouldn't a properly distanced shade also help with those rare snow days in hot climates? The Great Texas Freezes come to mind. My AC unit froze over because the house over hang is directly over the top of the unit.
    If a properly distanced shade/cover were redirecting the water/snow/ice from the unit, then it would not have to defrost as often and the fan would not get stuck.

  • @gonzoret
    @gonzoret Před 16 dny +1

    That Top Hat seems like a good concept.

  • @swmovan
    @swmovan Před 13 dny +1

    Last Summer, we had an extended heat wave, for several days, and my a/c couldn't keep up. The temp in the house wouldn't get below about 82, I believe. (I set the thermostat at 76, usually) It wasn't terrible in the house, but the a/c was constantly running. The a/c guy said this was common during extended hot periods. I just may try the shade Idea.

  • @nicholasr7987
    @nicholasr7987 Před 7 dny +1

    Once the ac is running it only has to overcome the stored heat in the condensor if in the sun. Which will be gone in about 30 seconds of air moving over the coil. If the unit is on blacktop or a roof that is a different story.

  • @unknownvalor9755
    @unknownvalor9755 Před 13 dny +1

    there's a video on youtube where I guy put up solar panels for shade tied to the minisplit. It wasn't a super large hvac unit but the solar powered the a/c which was also tied to a small battery system.

  • @user-ty2uz4gb7v
    @user-ty2uz4gb7v Před 13 dny +1

    if I were to put up some kind of sun blocker I wonder how much clearance you need over the condenser to ensure you're not blocking airflow.

  • @jamkpa
    @jamkpa Před 6 měsíci +2

    Good stuff!

  • @INTERNA9
    @INTERNA9 Před měsícem +2

    Love it!

  • @mckulit768
    @mckulit768 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Can you please make a video how to install a soft starter? I learned a lot from your video installing a hard starter but we have a new house and I’d love to install a soft starter so I can try using the hvac with a generator during power outages.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yes, that would be a great video to make. Thank you for the suggestion, I will add this to the videos to make list.

  • @hgodtx
    @hgodtx Před 22 dny +3

    My AC is on the west wall. 20yrs ago I planted 2 Bradford Pear trees 3 feet from the AC unit. I aligned one of the saplings shade to hit the AC perfectly. Then over the years, as they grew, the shade expanded to include huge portions of the brick wall and roof area. In central TX lots of 100+ days in the summers. Not only was my house more comfortable but also my AC lasted 22yrs.

    • @uuuultra
      @uuuultra Před 16 dny

      no way to prove the trees had any effect

  • @SwiftHelix
    @SwiftHelix Před 17 dny +2

    I think the shade would help the components to not over heat or deteriorate with the UV. The sun destroys anything, even products that are "uv resistant"

  • @ftinvencoes
    @ftinvencoes Před 20 dny +4

    And if it's a heat pump, is it better to have sun?

    • @warenmann1042
      @warenmann1042 Před 7 dny

      In the winter or whenever your using it in heat pump mode (to warm/heat the home) more sun is good on outside condenser, In summer while in AC/cooling mode less sun, more shade is good. Read up on what a heat pump is and it will help to understand how the system operates...

  • @tonym6920
    @tonym6920 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I would imagine the manufacturers consider that most a/c placements are probably a combination of shade and sun.

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Probably so. The units are designed for outdoor use after all.

    • @My-NaMeS_jEfF
      @My-NaMeS_jEfF Před měsícem

      thats why those idiots put it directly on the south side of the house. godamn unit is 130 degrees right now

  • @Sxcvg
    @Sxcvg Před 6 měsíci +2

    Mahalo! Happy holidays

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you! I appreciate you stopping by for the new video, have a Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year!!

  • @Eddy63
    @Eddy63 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Excellent vid & info as usual ... But your jokes were , dare I say it ... For the '' Birds''...Thx and aloha my friend

    • @WordofAdviceTV
      @WordofAdviceTV  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you Eddy! Haha yeah... The jokes.. The farm animals kept making noise while I was filming so I had to do some dad jokes involving the loudest of the bunch. 😅 Aloha and blessings from Hawaii my friend!!

  • @christopherlamb8297
    @christopherlamb8297 Před 15 dny

    I have a heat pump so shade could help in the summer but decrease efficiency in the winter. I would need a structure that could modified for each season. Possible but probably more expensive

  • @Gatf4
    @Gatf4 Před 14 dny +2

    Their umbrella test is a joke lol. My house is so much cooler overall on the north side than the south. Of course the builder put the unit on the sunny side lol

  • @Funnyguy-pb6mh
    @Funnyguy-pb6mh Před 5 dny +1

    I have a tarp 7ft above the unit blocking the sun and my inside temperature decreased 3 degrees.

  • @franciscotejeda1461
    @franciscotejeda1461 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excelent videos have a good day

  • @nastrodomis
    @nastrodomis Před 14 dny +1

    What matters is the insulation in the home and if your house is in the shade

  • @ImranAnsari-kf2yb
    @ImranAnsari-kf2yb Před 6 měsíci +1

    This country is HVAC work 👍💐

  • @tsx3214
    @tsx3214 Před 6 dny

    What does make the most difference is the length of the run condenser to compressor.

  • @SgtJoeSmith
    @SgtJoeSmith Před 19 dny +2

    i covered my unit in vines and bushes and tall grass to shade it

  • @cubava2221
    @cubava2221 Před 6 měsíci +2

    You are right, thanks

  • @shawnmurray7232
    @shawnmurray7232 Před 8 dny +1

    It's more about PROPER shading. You don't want anything that's going to restrict airflow around the unit including weeds, trash cans, solid privacy fences (without air gaps), etc... Anything intentionally used to shade the unit should be at least 4 feet away and allow good airflow through it. i.e. Umbrella's are bad, they can trap hot air coming off the unit and heat up the area around the unit, but Coolaroo (or similar breathable) sunshade material is fine, as long as it's more than 4 feet above the top of the unit.

  • @joycedudzinski9415
    @joycedudzinski9415 Před 15 dny

    My AC is in the shade and this year I'm not turning it on. Fed up with the high power bills.

  • @espy0008
    @espy0008 Před 10 dny

    What about setting up a water misting system on the coils?

  • @jinxtacy
    @jinxtacy Před 8 dny

    What if you just painted the shields white or added something like a gold reflective heat barrier with adhesive backing and a glass glass cloth backing?

  • @peppersaltman1805
    @peppersaltman1805 Před 12 dny +1

    It makes a big difference.

  • @Merlin_the_Wizard88
    @Merlin_the_Wizard88 Před 10 dny

    What about the durability of the a/c unit of one baking in the sun vs. one in the shade after 15+ years?