How to Remove & Replace Harmonic Balancer Dodge, Jeep, Chrysler and Mitsubishi 3.7 & 4.7
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- This works on all Chrysler 3.7, 4.7 & 4.7HO engines. Caution should be used when using a 3/8 extension as shown in the video as the extension can get stuck in the crankshaft snout. If the extension has sharp edges at the end, this is more likely to happen. I would recommend watching this video before attempting the 3/8 extension trick • How to Remove Harmonic...
It would be best to use a 5/16 metal round stock 7 1/2" long. This is also a great video for VARIOUS APPLICATIONS: Compatible with Chrysler, GM, Mitsubishi, Cadillac, and Oldsmobile vehicles; Cars, SUVs, vans, and pickup trucks.
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Redoing heads on Daughters 3.7 Liberty... Have never done a head replacement where had to access the timing chain system that required removal of harmonic balancer. Your video is succinct and has excellent explanations and insights... Thank you!
Love all your videos the last year. You've been on a good roll👍. Love the old ones of course also. Always good knowledge passed on to people
Watched a lot of your videos to diagnose a dropped valve seat, replace head and timing chains. Saved me a lot of headaches. You are the jeep guru!
Great to hear!
Going to get some hate for this, but for reinstall i just used the factory crank bolt to draw it back in. was plenty long enough to grab enough threads without stripping. greased the washer and just went easy with it. On a Liberty 3.7
This video gave me the confidence to finally replace my damaged timing cover on my 12 Ram 1500! Thank you, sir!!
Thanks for the GREAT video. The two rods that came with my puller kit weren’t sized right either; the longest one left me with a deficit. Took your advice for making up for it with a piece of threaded rod. Thanks for the tip. Saved me a lot of time.
You just saved me a lot of time with the at home remodifications to the removal tool! Much appreciated man
Great clear and informative video. Love it!
Barricade! Holy smokes man. Hey you're killing it with your videos lately brother. My friend says you are legend,
I’ve been needing to replace my leaking seal for about two years now on my 06 Commander limited. This video and only this video has finally convinced me that it’s not as hard as others make it look, especially if you have the correct tools.
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@@martinbuilt one more question. Do you think that the two sets you highly recommend in this video will work with my 2006 4.7 Jeep Commander limited?
Thank you!
Thank you for speaking so clearly and precisely, I am not very good at English but I understood everything you said. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Fantastic as always
Wonderfully clear and thorough! Thank you for sharing your experience!
Thank you, Rick. I'm glad you liked it.😊
To those wondering if the HO version Harmonic Balancer will work on a 3.7l V6, it will, but will wear down faster. I had my engine swapped in a Dodge Ram 1500 3.7l V6, and the mechanic put the HO version Harmonic Balancer on it. It worked fine for about 7 months and i started getting a horrible grinding sound when I hit accelerator and in idle you could hear clicking sounds like lifters.. The HO Harmonic Balancer was vibrating and had a lot of play near the main bolt holding it in. I believe what caused it was the extra weight of the HO version as opposed to the other version with the large holes for the wrenches.
After failing with 2 different loaner pullers from 2 different auto parts stores, I found your video. I used the cut down 5/16 rod method and it worked like a charm. Thank you!
That's awesome, glad it worked out for you.
Good stuff bud. Working at a machine shop doing cylinder heads and block work I always have people asking a lot of these same questions. Kudo for the excellent content my dude.
Thank you that is much appreciated.
just bought the puller through your link. Great video's man. Keep up the great work!
Hope you enjoy it, I appreciate it!
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Thank you, Alex, glad I could help.
I got a chevy silverado 4.8l and it looks exactly like the crankshaft pulley you got there. So it looks like I need the exact tool you got there. This helped a lot.
That's great always like when things like this cross over to other makes and models.
I really appreciate the time and quality of your videos. Thank you so much.
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Very nice video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for your videos!
Thanks a lot Mr. Martin,
Great video and advice...
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Nice video i loved the detail
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
I really enjoy watching your videos. Saw this notification popup and i hated that i had to wait for my break at work to see it. I have a question for you.
Would there be any reason to swap the regular 4.7L harmonic balancer to the unit from the H.O 4.7L? You mentioned weight, so im curious if this would be an upgrade to a standard 4.7L to get the H.O harmonic put on.
I actually went to the pull yard here in Denver and got some of the 704 spark plugs from a mod video you did from a little while back, and ill be doing that this week. Love your videos, keep up the awesome work, and those Magnesium valve covers looked really nice sticking out in the corner of this video. Cheers Martin!!!
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Mr Martin, Thank-you, very much! Excellent video, helpful and E-Z to follow up... Good day, and Thank-you again.! 11/28/22 S.A TX. Alamo
You are very welcome I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.
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Excelente explicación saludos desde venezuela gracias
Thank you, Are their a lot of Grand Cherokee's in Venezuela? Or do you have a Dodge?
damn good video, super calm and cool, easy to follow, well done!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.
YOU VIDEO HELP ME LOTS THANKS SO MUCH BOSS
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I used the Autozone kit and put the rod in tightened it down - it bottomed out so we removed it and could not get the rod out of the Bolt. It was stuck - stuck - stuck. Had to use a vice and a prybar to get it out. I watched this and saw that the rond went in and out easily. I still don't have the balancer off yet. We will try your extension trick tomorrow.
Yeah as mentioned in the video the AutoZone kit does not work properly because the longest rod is too short. The ABN puller however has the correct length rod. When using the extension trick make sure it feels that it will not stick at the bottom of the hole.
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How did you do it why type of vehicle?
@@megpie9971 Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ V8 4.7 liters....
Thank you
You're very welcome. I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.
You can rent the version with the longer rod at Oreilys if you have one nearby, i just picked one up.
How bout ABN 7429 install kit ? Will that be better if motor is in car fan out for mounting damper in on 6,4 392 ?
Perfect
Thank you. i'm glad you liked it and found it helpful.
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I am currently doing my first crankshaft seal on a Durango limited 5.7 Hemi and I'm feeling kinda stupid with what they call the seal bore? Meaning the main hole the seal goes into I'm guessing am I guessing correct?
Good video. Your AutoZone gave you the wrong puller, OEM 25090 (4 rods) is the identical tool to the ABN. BTW, nice classic USA Craftsman breaker & ratchet.
How did you make it work with the wrenches can’t find a video
Will that Chrysler tool work on 2009 f150
Ford changed harmonic balancer on 2009 there are no holes for standard harmonic balancer bolts
I like your style I can understand you thanks
How do you pull the non HO pulley?
I was about to take mine off last night and the pulley kept spinning I was like no way I seen a guy take one off easy but he was using a impact I was using just a breaker bar is it okay that I accidentally turned the engine a little? Forgot to put a Pribar in the there to prevent that
the abn works with radiator and shroud but no temp fan to remove and all thread and nut and washer works to install with radiator and shroud but no temp fan, is that right?
I was singing your praises with the idea of making the longer push rod. The harmonic balance wheel came right off. HOWEVER, I have been trying all day to get the socket extension from being stuck in the crankshaft. Any good suggestions on getting it out?????
I'm sorry this happened to you, unfortunately you are not the first. This is why I made this revised video czcams.com/video/ixJ_Y01YjAs/video.html
Have you tried using a breaker bar and while rotating counter clockwise slightly quickly snap it back in the other direction.
Have any ideas how to get that 3/8 extension out of the crank? Mine is jammed in there pretty good. Everything was going great too
not again...the extension that you used most likely has very sharp edges and can get jammed. Try using a breaker bar on the end of the extension with a quick pull on the bar it should break loose.
Here is a video that I posted warning of this. czcams.com/video/ixJ_Y01YjAs/video.html
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Hello Evgheniy, Nice to hear the is popular all over the world and that there are clubs for the WJ as well. If you ever make it to Las Vegas let me know. Thank you for commenting.
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Martinbuilt: question please… I purchased a HO engine to find the heads are HO, the harmonic balancer is HO, intake look HO, I Took off heads, WTH flat top 0.050 over size pistons no wear marks at all on bores. Is there a part number to use on the crank to find if I have the HO forged crank or not ? Thanks if you reply.
The crankshaft part number 53021409AA you will find that on the front courter weight.
The old pulley puller he showed only comes with the 4 and 5 1/2 The new updated puller is 57139 at autozone you need the 7 1/2 adapter rod that comes in this updated puller kit with is again at autozone part number 57139 Chrysler harmonic balancer pulley puller.
If you do an HO can upgrade should you also upgrade the harmonic balancer?
I would use the HO harmonic balancer on an HO engine. I'm not sure there's any advantage of using it on a non HO engine. I like the ATI harmonic balancer.
Good
Thanks
Question I have a puller like that from snap on I’m guessing that’s what the push rods are for ?
Yes, I'm sure the snap on puller will work great. Most likely, you will have to use the longer push rod for the 4.7 engine.
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I winder if this will work on a 2002 Dodge 3.5L just as well with same tool dimensions?
yes I believe this same puller would work for the 3.5L
Thanks for posting
No problem! 😉
Hey Marting, What type of grease do you use, or can I just use engine assembly lube? I want to make sure I am not contaminating the engine oil with something I should not be putting in there...
Thanks!
You can use any type of Grease. You're just applying a small amount and it is only going in the hole of that crankshaft which will not contaminate engine oil. If you are using the 3/8 extension trick that I shown in the video make sure that the end of the extension has rounded corners and when you place it in the Bolt hole of the crankshaft that it rotates freely and does not catch. I had one or two viewers that got the 3/8 extension stuck in the crankshaft. And that is due to the fact that some extensions have very sharp edges at the end. Obviously the one I used in my video I did not have that problem because of the rounded corners it has.
@@martinbuilt Thanks Martin! A parts store next to me had the OEMTOOLS 27306 as a loaner tool, so this made the job super easy! Now time to put everything else together, change the oil as I assume some coolant got into the motor when taking the timing cover off, and hopefully it all works smoothly again!
Hi I have a problem I replaced all my polleys upper lower extension polley power steering pump and polley , Alternator and brand new belt and I still get the squeaking what else could be the problem any ideas thank you
It would seem to me that the noise must be coming from somewhere else. The only thing else that I could think of that would even make a noise up there... well now that I think about it could be your harmonic balancer perhaps the rubber is getting bad in it and making that noise.
Hello. How would one remove said harmonic balancer if it separates into two pieces?
If it is a 2-piece harmonic balancer, you can remove the pulley and then use a combination steering wheel and harmonic balancer pulley puller like the link I provided.
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Been using a 6 inch Pittsburgh three jaw gear puller for my 6.1L engine, got about half way through till the crank itself start rotating again and stopped letting me turn the tool any tighter. I Tried lubricant and even some wd40 to loosen it but still nothing, any tips?
How about sliding a breaker bar in between the jaws, then hanging on to the breaker bar while you're tightening the threaded shaft of the puller should keep the engine from rotating.
Hello friend, I am writing to you from Santiago de Chile. I have the following problem the day before yesterday the accessory belt began to make noise and the tendon pulley came off and the bolt with the tube was lost... do you know the size of that bolt and the tube please they sell it here without the bolt and the tube and I need to buy it urgently to place the strap... It would be appreciated if you knew thank you best regards....
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Will you be able to get away with torquing the harmonic balancer bolt to 135 foot pounds? GM recommends torquing it down to 240 foot pounds
Can't say for sure oh, you would think a 130-135 foot pounds of torque would be more than enough. On the GM harmonic balancer is there a keyway or do they just simply Press On and that may be why the 240 ft lb of torque.
I think this is were my leak is coming from. Now I seen that you took it off and put it on but is there a seal that is needed replaced? Or is the harmonic balancer as a whole needing replaced to stop oil leak? Thanks
Once you get the harmonic balancer pulled off you should be able to pull the seal and reinstall a new one. I would also check the condition of the harmonic balancer where the seal makes contact and make sure there's no ridges worn into it from the seal itself. This could also cause a leak.
@@martinbuilt ok, thanks
Worth noting to all dodge owners.
3.9v6 crank pulley is very different than this.
3.9v6 crankpulkey is more like 5.2 5.9v8
Yes this video is for the 3.7 and 4.7 Chrysler Jeep engines.
Not the 3.9
Thank you for watching.
So if i took clutch fan off and shrow it would go alot easier?
yes, you most likely will have to remove fan and shroud.
hey thanks for the video, ended up being a big help. One question though, as I couldn't find an answer online anywhere, do these engines have a externally balanced flexplate?
Thank you, no it is not externally balanced.
Ballpark timing how long would it take to change out the crank seal and the harmonic balancer?
With the engine in the truck, I would give yourself at least 3 hours and for Jeeps with a hydraulic cooling fan 6 hours.
Ok yeah I'm working with a dodge nitro 3.7
@@MJ.401 That may be somewhat easier than a 4.7 because there could be more room in front of the engine.
How bout removing damper on the 6,4 392? I think i can use the duck foot style remover 3 bolts on to damper to remove?? But then what tool needed to install back on ?
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@@martinbuilt the claw tool will not work in srt8 damper !! As the damper has rubber rings and claw will pull off outer damper ring leaving in the center of the core of damper!! Best i find to use is the duck 3 bolt steering nd damper removal tool bc of the way the damper is built on 6,4 it has nd sits in rubber rings !! So to pull out the damper , i noticed it has 3 boot holes in damper to pull from with the duck tool puller , that way all of the damper will come out , nd not just outer ring !!
@@martinbuilt srt8 damper is not one pice damper !! It has 1 or 2 rubber rings pressed on to damper to keep vibration off crank!! Now, if i use claw style puller on srt8 damper ! It will disengage nd separate the outer damper ring that sits pressed to the dampers center core !! The damper do have 3 bolt holes to be used for pulling out damper on srt8 just found out trough some research !! As for reinstalling , i feel ARP 12 piint M5 1.5 pitch bolt nd washer will place it back in lubricating shaft nd turk it ta 130 foot pounds !! No need really for the install tool at this point as i am using steel 200,000psi bolt to snug back in , works just like the install tool as far as i can see!! Idk !! What you think bout this explanation? Let me knw ! Btw luv ur vid!,,,, nice ty
I think the 6,4 damper only has about 2-1/2 to may b 3" opening were the bolt is ! And i dont see any way to were the claw style will crab pulley? May b with a reverse claw style might work , as pulley is not slotted like the 5,7 or 4,7L motors!! are you a-wear of that ?
How can the harmonic balancer get pulled into far if I only torqued at 130 lb
It isn't going to mess up my new gasket if I have to back it out a little bit
no, it will be fine.
Easier way to do it is leave the bolt that came out of the harmonic balancer in the hole but unscrewed and clamp the harmonic balance tool on the bolt and tighten the tool up and twist and it should pull up and you can take it off worked like a piece of cake for me
Need to see it done on a Chrysler town and country 3.3 cannot get it on to even use the damn tool can you help need to get it off got the same tool .
Not really familiar with the Chrysler Town Car I have worked on a couple of them before in the past but it's been years. I would think you would gain access to the harmonic balancer by removing the front passenger tire and gaining access through the wheel well.
@@martinbuilt Thank you it's the tools you rent we got the one you used to take it off when one of the puller pieces didn't catch we used the wire to hold it and got it off. Plus it's so cold outside you can only be out for so long, Your video helped us so much my boyfriend and I we appreciate all the information you give and especially when it comes to tools and the part # That really matters to. Thanks again and stay safe and Thank you for replying to my message, I will always look for your videos on jobs we need to do on our own and that is 98 % of the time. Thanks again God bless you.
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Every video I watch I see people having no issues with installing the harmonic, but mine gets stuck. I had a person why and install it, ruined the install tool (stripped it) but on the key, it won't budge.. Why is this happening?
Yeah... a lot of us also have this still inside the car...
This tool will work with the engine in the vehicle. The fn shroud will need to be removed.
I showed it this way to get the best video shot.
Does it work for 3.8
Yes I believe it does
NEED HELP! I used your method and got my balancer pulled off but now my extension is stuck in the hole. How can I get it out?
There was one other person 5 months ago had the same problem. He said he was going to try a slide hammer to pull it out I don't know what the outcome was. I would also think perhaps you could attach a vice grip to the end of the extension give it a quick twist one way or the other and it should break free. This should not damage any threads due to the fact that the extension is smaller in diameter.
@@martinbuilt Wow, thank you so much for replying! I tried putting the ratchet on to the extension that is stuck and turning it but the whole inner circle spins as I try to turn it. I also tried grabbing the extension with vice grips and hammering it forward to try to get the extension loose but unfortunately there's barely any room for me to swing the hammer. I might have a little more room if I can figure out how to remove my clutch fan. I don't really know what else to do.
@@HerbalTurtle420 went out to the shop and tried a few different extensions and there was one that had very Square edges on it that would catch at the bottom of the hole as I rotated it, I'm assuming that's what kind of extension you have. I used another one that the edges are rounded and it rotated very easily and is most likely the one I used in the video.
@@martinbuilt I guess I didn't think through too well. Im going to try my best tomorrow, just hoping I can get it out and hopefully I haven't damaged the threads inside. Thanks a lot for your help man I really appreciate it.
@@martinbuilt Hey man I got the extension out that was stuck and got it all put back together 👍 I appreciate your help and the video was great, very informative. Keep it up!
Does this work for a 5.2L in a Dodge B3500? Thank you!
I did some research on this and looks like that this puller should work
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How do I remove the tool
give the extension a quick twist with the ratchet. czcams.com/video/ixJ_Y01YjAs/video.html
Ok. So I'm barely at 95 ft lbs on my crank bolt, far off from 129 ft lbs on my 2012 dodge charger 5.7.
I'm scared to bolt gonna snap, I cant man😭 somebody help me feel better about this, will I be okay ?
The Camshaft bolts get torqued to 90 or 95' pounds and they're like half the diameter of the crankshaft bolt you should have no problem going to 130
If it really scares you I'm sure if you got it up to 105 it's not going to go anywhere.
@@martinbuilt I just got it up to 110 lbs , I'll try to go 129 lbs in the morning. It still wobble at 110, but I'll pray tonight and go 129 lol
I tried the extension trick so i wouldn't have to wait for another puller. Unfortunately, where once the extension easily went in with no bind, now is stuck. I am just praying i don't snap it off in there and the threads are still good.
The extension you used did it go down into the threaded hole easily and bottom out?
@@martinbuilt Yes, not sure why its stuck. I'm going to get a slide hammer and see if i can pop it out.
@@TheAniyvwiya I'm sure the treads will be fine since the extension is much smaller then the bolt.
How did you get the extension out?
@@martinbuilt I had the same problem, put a 3/8" extension in that got stuck. I tried locking pliers to no avail. If I had a crow bar with a just-wide-enough fork I bet I could have extracted it easily. I ended up slipping a wrench (9/16") just behind the head of the extension and tapped the wrench with a hammer. Use the wrench like a lever. when I got more space behind the head, I switched to a 1/2" wrench. Close call!. Thanks for the videos, Martin, I've been using them a lot.
Wow I’m dumb as fuck I didn’t use a rod and the bolt for the puller is thicker than my original bolt. I have a 3.5L 99 Chrysler 300m
Why is my fuckin balancer spinning and his ain’t??? I need help