EUC Ride Modes and Effortless Acceleration
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- čas přidán 31. 01. 2023
- Electric unicycles have a few or more ride mode settings to choose from. The hard mode is named "Expert" in the KingSong app. Is it aptly named? Is that the one we should always use? If not, why not? How do I determine which setting to use on my GotWay/Begode, Veteran, KingSong, Inmotion, Ninebot, or any other wheel?
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I've been riding on expert mode on my KingSong all this time. I had no idea there was different modes. So, I tried all of them. The soft mode was not for me, but then I tried intermediate mode, and wow, it was great. I loved it. My feet no longer hurt as much anymore, and it's so much easier to accelerate and turn. It has made riding so much more fun and enjoyable. I hope all EUCs have different modes. I plan on buying a Lynx in the future.
Glad you found the medium mode! It’s usually my recommendation for the exact reasons you described.
Most EUCs have three modes, and they are of course different on each wheel model. Inmotions (since V10F) however have three sliders you can fine tune the response with, so you’re not limited by preset options.
Fantastic explanation ! Your diction and voice processing are really remarkable also 👏
Wow, thank you so much, Francois!
Let me just say WOW you are something else man....i been trying how to learn how to ride for about a month now and its been so difficult, after i watched your vid decided to try soft mode. I shit you not im instantly ridding with no problem what so ever i went from fighting my wheel to being able to ride without even trying THANK YOU! 🎉
Very nice to hear that it helped so much! At some point you’ll try the different modes again and you’ll land with a different one. And that’s all cool!
Excellent Mr Elwood. Thank you. It’s important some of this stuff is explained as I think so many simply buy a wheel, turn it on and try to ride without ever reading the instructions, doing any research or even knowing how the thing works.
Thank you! I fully agree.
That was almost like a masterClass for explaining pedal sensitivity! very nice!
Thank you!
Lol I love the comment a the end "put it at commuter at 70% and be done with it!" That's my setting haha
Nice! Mine too, more or less... 😁
Wow this makes so much sense!
I've been riding hard mode on my T3 for the past 1000km and haven't even tried the other modes lol. Spot on about the reason new people use hard mode, I saw it on youtube so thats what I used.
I will definitely try soft and medium, thank you.
Nice! It’ll be good to know what your wheel is capable of.
You continue to be an excellent source of information. In addition to the excellent advice you have given in the forums, you just keep delivering. I found the softer modes easier to accelerate during my downtown rides, and given my 58kg weight, it makes sense. Thanks for all you do!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Really glad to hear that the effort for making these videos pays off! 👍👍👍
This has been great advice for me, and thanks for the explanation. I have to admit to putting my V12HT in off-road mode with 100% acceleration and braking + 100% sensitivity. Then I went to the default but used off-road and 100% sensitivity. But after watching this I spent some time reflecting on the way I ride, which is pretty laid back to be honest, although sometimes when I go off-road I kinda try and go for it. After trying commuter mode and different sensitivity settings, I've decided to stick with 70% sensitivity + commuter mode, which coincides with your recommendations. My ride feels far more stable and relaxed, which I guess matches my actual riding style a lot closer.
There you go, really happy that you took the time to test them out!
Excellent explanation my friend! Very easy to catch ❤
Thanks!
Thank you. Appreciate it!
Awesome 😎 thanks brother!!🙏
Having just upgraded to a bigger, heavier wheel, I think about this a lot! Great explanation!
Yeah, the effect of the ride modes gets especially notable when you are riding a large and heavy wheel. I tried a Sherman S in hard mode the other day. That thing just did not accelerate!! My V11 is much peppier due to weight alone, and my ride mode settings are designed to lessen the effort to accelerate and brake. So the difference was outstandingly large.
@@mrelwood_EUC I just went from MSX 100v with 3300 miles to a T4, (~55lbs to ~65lbs) and it takes way more effort to get near the same torque. The weight isnt much more, but the height of the T4 also contributes to needing more force to tip over. I have both in hard mode but after watching this, I'll try changing the T4 to soft :)
@@SpencerWheelman Don’t forget medium if the soft mode is too much! That’s actually surprising that the T4 requires more effort than the MSX, despite having a smaller tire diameter. One thing could be that all manufacturers have made the hard mode stiffer and stiffer year by year. So the hard mode on an MSX is very likely softer than that of the T4. Add also the weight and there you are.
@mrelwood EUC Yea, it disappointed me how much less peppy the T4 is. Like it's not even close. That's a good point that the newer firmwares stiffness on hard mode might contribute. I've never heard anyone talk about that.
@@SpencerWheelman Let me know how the medium and soft modes work on the T4!
Awesome video 👍
Thanks Gilders!
I ❤soft mode, good info here!
Here is some info. I pilot a s22, I got the ironman pedals. The ironman pedals have a slightly raised toe and heel plates. I always rode on hard, on the new pedals just after a few days my toes hurt so badly I couldn't walk for 3 days. I came to a conclusion that the pedals were so hard and in combination of the raised plates it put to much strain on my toes. Put it in medium and never had an issue and don't notice a difference in acceleration or braking, and the ride is comfortable and I get a bit better range.
There you go! Happy that you found a solution to the foot pains!
This is really helpful. I'm a new rider and these settings have confused the hell out of me, especially inmotions split ride settings. I think I'm going to turn that off and use the commuter 70%
Good choice! But I do recommend that you get back to trying out various settings once you get more familiar and confident with the wheel. Split mode (or “assists”) especially is a thing for later examination. You’ll know when you long for different behavior for braking and accelerating.
Thank you !
Thanks, Mathieu!
Thanks for the vídeo, I have a 16s and in "rider mode" (medium) I can achieve maximum acceleration with much less lean than on hard mode, and overall the wheel just feels better too. I would just add that there is a small delay in the softer modes between the lean and what the wheel does. Since I am not a racer, this is not a problem when it comes to acceleration, but there is a small delay when it comes to emergency breaking (a fraction of a second, but still). I imagine this is different for every wheel, but it is still something that I think about when riding in a softer setting in my wheel. Thanks again
The delay you mention could be the time the wheel lets you to get into the leaning position. Even though it feels like a delay, it will still probably make the braking faster.
Thanks for the insight! Question. On inmotion wheel, does the commuter mode and off-road mode overlap? For example, is the commuter mode with 100% pedal sensitivity equivalent to off-road mode's 40% sensitivity? Or is commuter 100% still softer than off-road 0%?
The input-output curves are different enough that they don’t really overlap or compare like that. The difference is not directly in the softness. But since the maximum tilt angle is so small at 100% pedal hardness on both, that’s where the difference is the smallest.
How do you feel that they’d compare?
i dont like my feets going down from horizon, so im using hard mode from beginning.. on soft mode when i start learning im always feel like slipping from pedals. Hard mode was much easer to learn and catch stable position
Soft mode is overdone on many wheels, which is why I recommend starting from the medium mode.
man did you really ride over 6,000 miles on your KS16S? after riding this long did you have to replace any parts? I also have KS16S I like it, its different ride feel then my other EUC Begode Nikola
Yes, over 6k miles. I had to replace a few battery cells on both packs (advanced level repairs), and the pedal bracket bolts.
The Nikola is much bigger, faster and more powerful wheel. I can’t imagine you spending a lot of time on your 16S. 😉
nice. will give it a go, thanks. i like it hard while the wife prefers a softer wheelie. hmm, that came out awkward haha
If the hard mode 1:30 uses more power faster does it consume more battery?
Yes, it actually does, since the wheel accelerates harder on each tiny bump. It of course depends on the wheel and firmware, but I used to gain about 10% more range on medium and maybe 13% more on soft compared to hard on the MSX.
Excellent video, the visuals helped after your explanations on the forum. Thanks much
@@jayknight850 Thank you, Granny Jay! 😊
I'm still confused. I just have the Inmotion V12. So which way is soft mode, 0% or 100% pedal sensitivity? I started messing with the settings a few months ago, and my wheel rides terrible now. I've tried everything; default settings, experimenting, just like you suggested. I even tried turning off split mode.
0% sensitivity is the softest, 100% is the hardest.
If you are lost with the settings, turning off the Split mode (or “assists”) is the first thing to do. Like I suggested in the video, put it on 70% Commuter and adjust from there if need be.
If you have messed up other settings as well, check that the forward tilt is at a sensible setting, and calibrate the wheel.
@@mrelwood_EUCI believe I've tried it at 0%, and the pedals felt like I was in a boat. Maybe I didn't give it enough time; I'll sure try it again. I also tried forward and backward tilt, quite a bit, but always went back to 0. I haven't calibrated in a few months, so that's something I need to do. I loved your stick explanation of of the modes; helped me to understand that part. Anyway, thanks for replying; at least I now know 0% pedal is soft. I'll keep trying.
@@bepriceless Yeah, 0% Commuter is crazy soft. That’s why I recommend testing 100%, 70% and 40% for the sensible yet different values.
I only ride in super soft mode
DID I SEE YOU GO THROUGH THE WORLD’s ONLY UNDERWATER ROUNDABOUT under the Faroe islands?
Is this AI voice?
Haha! 🤣 That’s hilarious!
No, it’s my own voice. I just don’t usually speak English.
@@mrelwood_EUC Your voice is fine! 😀
Glad I wasn't the only one that didn't want anything to do with soft. Masculinity gone wrong
Oh right, because the names of the riding modes represent you as a person? And that men should be hard and made of steel? Got it. 🤣
Good video
Thanks!