Do NOT Buy The 2024 Toyota Tacoma

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  • čas přidán 24. 05. 2023
  • I think buying the NEW 2024 Toyota Tacoma is a bad idea! This new Tacoma is packed with new features. Some are cool others not so much but each new feature has new technology behind it that can break over time.
    I am sure this video will get some hate, that's okay. I personally would wait at least two years before buying a new Tacoma.
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  • @leeraymer166
    @leeraymer166 Před rokem +1118

    After hearing from the chief engineer of this platform and knowing that the turbo 4 cylinder that’s going into this truck has been used worldwide by Toyota for nearly a decade now on the Hilux, I’m not all that concerned. Toyota generally knows what they’re doing. I’d take a chance on a new model Toyota any day over anything that Ford, GM or Stellantis put out there.

    • @copperhead_jl5321
      @copperhead_jl5321 Před rokem +37

      The Hilux has a 4cyl turbo but its not this. In my experience back home in Nicaragua we get the Hilux and it has 2 options a 2.7 and a 3.0 both turbo but Diesel no gas engines. Im excited to see this performance tho, i recently got a 23 Tundra and low key want the new Taco.

    • @ky9263
      @ky9263 Před rokem

      You are a traitor to the american brand. Ford and Chevy walks all over this. I'm from the south and these imports are junk

    • @profuse007
      @profuse007 Před rokem +23

      diesel turbo is different than gasoline/petrol, like night and day difference in terms of low-end torque.

    • @jorgec4357
      @jorgec4357 Před rokem +16

      I was told the hylander has had the 4 cylinder engine for a while now. So yes toyota knows what they are doing.

    • @user-ep6wd7ip7v
      @user-ep6wd7ip7v Před rokem +7

      Lexus has the same motor as the new gen

  • @ranran2218
    @ranran2218 Před rokem +90

    Despite the title saying dont buy a 2024 tacoma i 100% plan to buy a 2024 tacoma.

    • @xbantrax7757
      @xbantrax7757 Před rokem +4

      right behind you was gonna trade in my 2018 for a 2023 last yr but then rumors of the 4th gen were getting around

    • @Surfbug66
      @Surfbug66 Před 3 měsíci +1

      We did 🎉

    • @marcJoel
      @marcJoel Před 2 měsíci

      Traded my 19 for a 23😂😂😂 let’s goo

    • @man159159
      @man159159 Před 23 dny

      Just ordered mine! Purchased a Red 2024 TRD Sport Premium 4X4 Turbo Charged Engine with a lot of other add ons. Super pumped to get it in soon, around July/August just in time for my birthday!!! 🥳

  • @gregj3369
    @gregj3369 Před 10 měsíci +78

    My issue with Tacoma is they always spread out the desirable features across different trims so you can't get exactly the truck you want. Whether it's the manual, a sunroof, 4x4, bed length, cab style...the only thing you get in every trim is a lack of head room in the rear seats.

    • @theslyrylan
      @theslyrylan Před 8 měsíci +5

      Yeah if the trail hunter came with an access cab manual transmission it would be an instant buy for me. I do realize that’s not a desirable configuration for most though

    • @dug4895
      @dug4895 Před 8 měsíci

      That’s not true at all haha

    • @dug4895
      @dug4895 Před 8 měsíci

      @@theslyrylanthere is no such thing as a trail hunter

    • @chrisallen1783
      @chrisallen1783 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dug4895ummm you sure about that 😂

    • @MarkIrwin02
      @MarkIrwin02 Před 5 měsíci

      @theslyrylan I just wish they would offer the manual with the 6 foot bed. But like you said not as many people would be into stuff like that. So instead of producing them like the rest. They would become a special order type. That only get made when someone orders 1 like that. And they have to wait to have it built. Then it gets delivered to your choice of either your place or the dealership that ordered from since it's a special order model.

  • @jhennesey1
    @jhennesey1 Před rokem +234

    I disagree, I want the heated/cooled seats. The bigger display, better audio, auto tailgate. I think I'm gonna get the Limited with all the bells and whistles and comfortable ride.

    • @ModernDayViking
      @ModernDayViking  Před rokem +16

      I hope it works out good for you! Be sure to keep us updated on the experience!

    • @endlessnameless3996
      @endlessnameless3996 Před rokem +16

      Just keep in mind that the JBL audio isn't that good if you're picky about your sounds.

    • @dadoo985
      @dadoo985 Před rokem +2

      ​@@endlessnameless3996 it's bad sound system?

    • @cabron247
      @cabron247 Před rokem +5

      @Endless Nameless my 2010 Venza had a JBL system and it's by far the best I've ever heard in like 40 different vehicles I drove in. The surround sound was spectacular.

    • @dadoo985
      @dadoo985 Před rokem +2

      @@cabron247 thank you. So it's a good system

  • @jasonclarity5604
    @jasonclarity5604 Před rokem +115

    The simplicity of the previous generations of Tacoma's were part of the charm.

    • @Vec135
      @Vec135 Před rokem +5

      You think these newer cars these days are going to be simple anymore? Lol no. Cars are loaded with features these days.

    • @PrepperDawg
      @PrepperDawg Před rokem +11

      Agreed. Love the old-school throwback and simplicity of the 3rd gen. Will be keeping my 2021 taco

    • @ronnie_5150
      @ronnie_5150 Před rokem +8

      Agreed. I've owned a 2011 TRD Tacoma since new, 150,000 miles, 4L V6, never a single problem. Just routine maintenance. But that Trail Hunter is pretty cool. I'll be trading my 2011 in, but in 2025.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc Před rokem +5

      ​​@@ronnie_5150 Damn man. I also have low miles. I have a 2015 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 with 77k miles.

    • @ronnie_5150
      @ronnie_5150 Před rokem

      @@chrisginoc I love my 2011, and vowed I would not even look at buying a ‘24 if it didn’t have a V6 option, but that Trail Hunter is sweet :)

  • @marcdelvalle2127
    @marcdelvalle2127 Před rokem +130

    Agree with most of these points.
    Just wanted to say that Toyota has had years of experience with hybrids in the Prius and I would def trust that powertrain.
    Going to wait for the mid cycle refresh for them to do something different with that front bumper

    • @EvanButler320
      @EvanButler320 Před rokem +2

      It’s an entirely different hybrid system than the Prius. It’s the same system as in the hybrid tundra.

    • @MWAclanGaming
      @MWAclanGaming Před rokem +3

      Idk what crack you been smoking but the prius isn't as reliable as you think and there a different between a plug in hybrid and what the new tacoma, which gets its energy from the a generator sandwich between the engine and transmission.

    • @armando9293
      @armando9293 Před rokem

      ​@@MWAclanGaming is that good or bad

    • @kevinbreese5739
      @kevinbreese5739 Před rokem +3

      What's wrong with the front bumper? If you mean that huge air damn at the bottom, it's easily removable.

  • @jpadamada
    @jpadamada Před rokem +12

    i got the 2023 and I'm glad I finally found a video that isn't all 100% for the new 24 because I literally thought the same thing about the new gadgets (more things to break).

  • @phillipsipe
    @phillipsipe Před rokem +8

    Get the base if you want simplicity, it’s that simple.

  • @Thergood
    @Thergood Před rokem +11

    Toyota has more experience with turbos/hybrids than any other manufacturer, so I'm not really concerned about the drivetrain. That said, buying the initial release of a complete redesign from ANY manufacturer is just asking for trouble. 3rd gen Tacoma, new Tundra, new Broncos, etc. etc. Wait until year 2 at least, mid-cycle refresh would be best. I'm extremely happy with my 2015, last model year of the 2nd gens. Reliability perfected. Protect the frame and it should be bulletproof.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc Před rokem

      2015 brother here as well with 77k miles. Such simple and solid feeling trucks. Protect the frame from the road salts and you're good! They'll never make trucks like these again.

    • @scotttsilis2892
      @scotttsilis2892 Před rokem

      The bronco is badass looking but ford will NEVER work out the bugs. The whole truck is a giant bug sadly. It’s almost jeep level for repairs.

  • @JoeTaco83
    @JoeTaco83 Před 9 měsíci +7

    At first I thought this video was gonna try/attempt to convince me to try another brand (I would never) but I was wrong. This video is actually right. It’s probably smarter to wait for the 2025 model Tacoma. It should be almost perfect. Of course I’m not too excited about the new power train in it but it is what it is. I have faith in Toyota and always have. Never let me down. Great Video man. Thanks.

  • @ptuzdi
    @ptuzdi Před 3 měsíci +1

    Based on your eyeliner, do you recommend Santa Cruz, right?

  • @GoldenStateTrades
    @GoldenStateTrades Před rokem +2

    Do you think you should wait till 2025 for them to work out the kinks or how long would be a proper wait time? Thanks

    • @Chucktinez
      @Chucktinez Před rokem

      Hi jaywalk. The Toyota Tec at my local Toyota Dealer told me if I wanted to trade my 23 tacoma that I should wait 2-3 years. 1-2 years they all have issues. The third year (mid year) is when they finally get it right. So 2-3 years according to him. If you have a 3rd gen hang on to it. He said they will go up in value. They are the last of the old school trucks. Nothing breaks. He said the new tundras always go in for engine/turbo issues.

    • @profoundwill43
      @profoundwill43 Před rokem +1

      I'm no expert or anything but I think it's a safe bet to wait until a few models to see if the Turbo 4s have issues. It's a very controversial switch and Toyota generally does well compared to others, but I wouldn't risk it.

  • @rickyricardo6730
    @rickyricardo6730 Před rokem +28

    Do you have on eyeliner and lipstick?

  • @DJXPLRS
    @DJXPLRS Před rokem +31

    The updates to the 4th Gen Tacoma are exciting. But I agree, it will take a couple years to work out the bugs. Same thing happened when the 3rd gen came out.

    • @ModernDayViking
      @ModernDayViking  Před rokem +3

      Definitely going to need to wait!

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 Před rokem

      @
      DJ XPLRS What were the permanent bugs on the early 3rd gens that warranty never fixed?

    • @armyretired28
      @armyretired28 Před rokem +4

      The transmission for one, it kept searching for what gear to be in, it was up and down shifting.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc Před rokem

      ​@@armyretired28 The famous gear searching. I remember guys complaining about it. It was also happening with people who lifted their trucks and those 3.5 liter 3rd Gen motors would struggle at times. That got fixed in the 2020+ models?

    • @armyretired28
      @armyretired28 Před rokem +1

      @@chrisginoc My '17 was never lifted but it did that until I traded it for the '21 model.

  • @jimmylim5015
    @jimmylim5015 Před 7 měsíci

    I just picked up a 2023 V6 SR Tacoma Double Cab, glad I didn't wait for the 24 - I'm curious but do any of you put a qt of oil every 1000 miles or is that too much oil? I've never had a V6 and I'm just curious

    • @infamoussnyc3761
      @infamoussnyc3761 Před měsícem

      2023 sr5 owner and no only time oil foes in is during oil change

  • @markottenbreit7043
    @markottenbreit7043 Před 9 měsíci

    I would be interested too see comparison data for new build models compared to a couple years later. Are later year models in the dealership less? Do they have less issues? Is there data out there to support that? Toyota cars and trucks for me have been reliable no matter if its the first year of a new model build or a couple years in. However, I’m only one person.

  • @ericsoto77
    @ericsoto77 Před rokem +11

    I completely agree with everything he said. With that being said I’m still buying one

  • @canny7x
    @canny7x Před rokem +10

    I suspect you're 100% correct. The 'features' of the new truck are definitely not DIY maintanence friendly.

  • @chopperpl
    @chopperpl Před 3 měsíci

    and how much 3rd gen is going to cost after re-gearing and adding a supercharger????? btw, have you heard of warranty? All new model glitches will be fixed at no charge.

  • @ItsLeems
    @ItsLeems Před rokem

    Some turbo cars have technology which keeps oil flowing through the turbo even after the engine is shut off and/or use water cooling, don't they? Does lexus/ toyota use these technologies in this drivetrain? If they do, perhaps a lengthy cooldown procedure won't be needed.

  • @wanderingdaze7018
    @wanderingdaze7018 Před rokem +5

    I’m still sticking to my 1st gen. Simplicity is key for me

  • @johnwhitneykokalis9990
    @johnwhitneykokalis9990 Před rokem +3

    You are absolutely right. All mid sized, NOT compact trucks, are going to be expensive. I just bought the new Canyon and love it and paid less for it than msrp because I am a GM Retiree, but it was still expensive because all of the options are just as expensive on the mid size trucks as they are on the full size trucks. The sheet metals and raw materials are expensive because of the stamping and injection molding process is about the same costs on a mid sized truck as they are on a full size truck. As far as engines are concerned, the GM 2.7 was designed from its foundation to be a turbo and was engineered to have the strength of a diesel truck engine that runs on gasoline and even the cooling system doesn't rely on the engines RPMs but on an electrical system triggered and adjusted by thermostatic controlled, response. Big difference of engineering than taking an engine from a production bin and slapping a turbo on to it and hoping for the best. I say give Toyota a break, they know what they are doing and will make adjustments based on market determinations. Even as a GM Guy I can thank Toyota for forcing GM to make better mid sized trucks because of there competitive tenacity.

  • @mequelitocuico8656
    @mequelitocuico8656 Před 5 měsíci

    Im challenge you this question, what your recommendation for midsize pickup for 2024

  • @carlossantiagoalmeida806
    @carlossantiagoalmeida806 Před 4 měsíci

    what's the brand of the tent you have on top of your truck?

  • @p-51mustang51
    @p-51mustang51 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I completely agree with you. I hate all the new crap they put in the trucks, it just adds to the cost and the potential problems all those little nitpicky electronics bring along. I’ll also never buy a hybrid as the short life of the battery completely determines the life of the truck. They sure don’t make them like they used to unfortunately.

    • @alive4082
      @alive4082 Před 9 měsíci

      Don't lie you like the options and will buy a hybrid

  • @christopherkasik3291
    @christopherkasik3291 Před rokem +22

    I test drove the regionals test/sample Trailhunter a few weeks ago when I was getting an oil change. It made me glad I picked up a 2023 SR5 Trail. I don’t want an 8 inch flatscreen or more stuff that can break. The draw of the Tacoma was the simplicity of the entire platform.

    • @Hubscharber
      @Hubscharber Před rokem +4

      Why worry about the 8" touch screen breaking when the frame would rot out first?

    • @shnerp
      @shnerp Před rokem +2

      I also picked up a trail edition last month because I wanted a new but more basic truck. No regrets :)

    • @armyretired28
      @armyretired28 Před rokem +2

      ​​@@Hubscharber That crap was from many years ago with gen 2 Tacoma's, they were fixed via many recalls by replacing the frames that were rusted through. I don't see that happening ever again. I agree with this video, never buy a new first year Gen vehicle, they always have some issues to work out!

    • @searchforthetruth1998
      @searchforthetruth1998 Před 11 měsíci

      I was holding out for a new gen but when I saw the press release photos of the obnoxious size screen I went and bought a 19 sr with only 13k on it. Lol so happy I did. I wanted a new reliable low mileage truck but with the old school basic feel. Perfect balance of old school with new comfort.

  • @nonameyet2205
    @nonameyet2205 Před rokem +2

    I agree with the hybrid but i think most people normaly don't go with the top off the line trim, most people should be fine with the base 228hp turbo 4 which give a big enough power upgrade over previous 159hp 4 cylinder without being too overstressed and the new tech isn't as much as the top trim

  • @sjbb838
    @sjbb838 Před 10 měsíci

    I’ve been test driving 2023 TDR, pro sport, 4×4 long bed. And I’ve noticed they have no power. maybe it’s because I’m used to driving V-8’s I don’t know.so I test drove the TDR pro 4×4 short bed and it seems it had more power and better response. I don’t know why the only difference is the bed length so I’m not sure what to do. get a new 2023 or wait for the bugs to be worked out in the 2024. It sounds like the powertrain on the 2024 is going to have more power and response.

  • @MASTERTRAINERMADDOG
    @MASTERTRAINERMADDOG Před rokem +3

    Only reason I will buy the '24 is because it matches exactly with my Type R interior and I would feel right at home inside familiar aesthetics!

  • @tbok75
    @tbok75 Před rokem +4

    I followed the new tundra like crazy and then was disappointed by the looks. Tacoma looks way better. BUT, like any new model, problems abound. Lol my 06 tacoma just turned 250k miles. I don't wanna even think about paying for a new one no matter how much I love it. It's old but still gets it done trouble free.

  • @not_sure...
    @not_sure... Před rokem

    I got the 3rd gen when it first came out, bever had any issues

  • @joecampolo
    @joecampolo Před rokem

    I completely agree with you 100 percent! Great video thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • @Jaredius
    @Jaredius Před rokem +15

    I am absolutely waiting at least a year before considering taking a look at the 4th gen Tacoma. I am not a fan of the turbo 4, but with all the other improvements (seating position, infotainment, brakes, suspension, etc) it has over the 3rd gen, I can settle for it. However, I am not at all interested in any hybrid whatsoever.

    • @310chris18
      @310chris18 Před 5 měsíci

      The turbo keeps toyota going full electric its a loop hole through bidens stupid green new deal that he wants all cars to be electric but doing a turbo and hybrid setup it keeps toyota in that epa bubble. Plus toyota used to do turbos in the 80' and 90'S and there turbo cars were bullet peoof. So dont worry about the turbo toyota takes years to make sure they get it right before they produce it. Thats why toyota had the same turbo 4 in the lexus NX back in 2017 and it was bullet proof.

  • @UbuntuBanksie
    @UbuntuBanksie Před rokem +5

    you are just saying that because you want to be first to get one

  • @3raser3
    @3raser3 Před rokem +1

    What's interesting to me is they are coming out with a new entry level truck, the Stout, so I would totally expect to see price hikes on the new gen of Tacomas

  • @bryantplatero6582
    @bryantplatero6582 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you this was helpful!!!

  • @shanes1112
    @shanes1112 Před rokem +4

    Good to hear a little negativity after being flooded with praise for the 2024. I really like the looks of it but I don’t care for gadgets or turbo engines. My 2022 TRD 4x4 Sport has 20,000 miles and should last me a long time.

  • @nievesmagana7350
    @nievesmagana7350 Před 2 měsíci

    Y cuál es la mejor opción para ti en una pick up mediana?

  • @RedWolfDrift2000
    @RedWolfDrift2000 Před rokem +1

    Totally agree with you man. Oh yeah. I picked up my 2020 sport 4x4 a couple months ago. I love it!!

  • @wtbofnc7880
    @wtbofnc7880 Před rokem +3

    Great video! I don’t agree with everything you’ve said, but I’m glad you said it. Specifically about the electronic tailgate. I disagree about the electric “moving parts”, as there are none. I do agree with allowing the 4th Gen to age a bit before purchase. -but the 4th Gen looks so damn good!!

  • @BlueCollarHauler
    @BlueCollarHauler Před rokem +53

    I think the new gen Tacoma is meant for a very specific crowd. I love what my 3rd gen came with and I'm not worried about where people think it's lacking. I have no interest in looking into a 4th gen Tacoma. I'm also a fan of the "dated" appearance of the 3rd gen taco.

    • @johnwhitneykokalis9990
      @johnwhitneykokalis9990 Před rokem +2

      Thats right. Your money. Your choice, your happiness with what you want in a truck.

    • @BlueCollarHauler
      @BlueCollarHauler Před rokem +3

      @@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Exactly. I'm sure Toyota will be highly successful with the 4th gen Tacoma just like they were with the 3rd gen. It's just not for me.

    • @Clevelandsteamer324
      @Clevelandsteamer324 Před rokem +2

      I prefer gen 1 with 5vzfe , e-locker and no computer BS

    • @chrisx5127
      @chrisx5127 Před rokem +2

      I'm not a fan that they are made in Mexico, and no longer in Japan.

    • @Clevelandsteamer324
      @Clevelandsteamer324 Před rokem +1

      @@chrisx5127 they were never made in Japan for USA market.
      They were made in USA.
      The 4Runner has always been made in Japan since 1984 to present. The vin starts with “J” on every single one.

  • @ranger1752
    @ranger1752 Před rokem

    Completely agree. 💯 subscribed, thanks!

  • @tangodrizzle
    @tangodrizzle Před rokem +1

    one thing i heard a chief engineer say in a video is the reason they knocked the power down on the manual transmission is they were getting some "crankshaft hammering" so if anyone wants a little more oomph out of their new turbocharged tacoma theyre immediately going to run into engine problems unless I misunderstood the CE

    • @SansooIan
      @SansooIan Před rokem

      If you want more than 330hp out of a mid size truck, you're buying the wrong truck, right?

    • @tangodrizzle
      @tangodrizzle Před rokem

      @@SansooIan the manual has 270

  • @paytonpayton7489
    @paytonpayton7489 Před rokem +8

    I agree with the too much stuff that we don’t need that can break. I believe it’s planned obsolescence from the manufacturers. They want more stuff to break without saying it. They also want to charge you for features as standard equipment even though I don’t want it or need it. We are slaves in the system. We don’t choose we obey.

  • @tomwhite7982
    @tomwhite7982 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Nice eyeliner dude. What brand is that ?

    • @ModernDayViking
      @ModernDayViking  Před 11 měsíci +6

      It's Estee Lauder, I bought it with the revenue I made from the butthurt Toyota fanboys watching this video.😉

  • @derickrouse3021
    @derickrouse3021 Před měsícem

    Iv watched 3 videos before this one I have to say your video is the most honest and straightforward. Thanks for sharing your point of view brother!

  • @JvKintheUSA
    @JvKintheUSA Před rokem +1

    I'm planning on getting a mid-size truck and there are some nice choices, like the GMC AT4X, Chevy's new ZR2 Bison and next year the new Toyota Trailhunter. Can't wait for the side-by-side tests!

    • @tylergronk-wd9dx
      @tylergronk-wd9dx Před 11 měsíci

      New toyota is junk. Get a 90s-2006ish toyota while u still can. 1st gen tundras are better than any tacoma and better than this pos new age tacoma. Fk new cars. They're all trash

  • @AJM77120
    @AJM77120 Před rokem +11

    70k for a mid size? Good luck toyota

    • @makatron
      @makatron Před 11 měsíci +1

      TRD PRO for sure be close to 70k. Car prices have been insane after 2021. And also good luck finding one at MSRP, the markups are about to be legendary.

    • @JvKintheUSA
      @JvKintheUSA Před 11 měsíci +1

      Ford dealer told me $15k markup on the Ranger Raptor I wanted to order. Dealer in FL added $10k of dealer junk to a '23 AT4X for a total of $72k 😂

  • @jeromeburrasca6710
    @jeromeburrasca6710 Před rokem +1

    2011 to 2013 4x4 Chevy Suburban or Tahoe is everything you’ll ever need. 4th generation all aluminum LS V8’s, 5 link rear suspensions Coilover front suspensions, 6 speed transmissions with a low first gear, inexpensive widely available parts, can carry everything inside, tow and sleep comfortably and go in a moments notice without exiting the vehicle at o’dark thirty while camping in grizzly bear Alaska. Taco’s are for eating not driving. Lol 😊

  • @JontaeFischiettie
    @JontaeFischiettie Před rokem

    wonder what type of gas it would require? Not to sure about the Ford Ranger Rapture either

  • @paulthompson661
    @paulthompson661 Před rokem +7

    Just bought 23 but man if I’m honest I would take the bugs for that 4th gen man! 🔥

  • @tkernel
    @tkernel Před rokem +3

    While I completely agree on letting them fix the bugs (there were a few with the Tundra), I disagree with the concerns on the turbo. I have a 2020 Civic with a turbo & run basic gas through it, not premium, and don't have to let it warm up / cool down. I'll add - if the new Taco is going for anywhere close to $80k, that'd be ridiculous. Someone else mentioned it in the comments, the v6 is going to be a collector's item now & any of the 2023 (and prior) versions of it should hold phenomenal resale value.

    • @ModernDayViking
      @ModernDayViking  Před rokem +2

      If the newer turbos systems solved those concerns that would be awesome. My last one was a 2010 twin turbo bmw. Typically for longevity its best to let it warm up to let oil get up in it. And let it cool off before shutting the car down.

    • @chrisfrey5905
      @chrisfrey5905 Před rokem +1

      Warm up and cool down can be done while driving and should be as air is moving around the turbo while moving. Just stay out of boost for the first and last couple miles and life is good.

    • @Chucktinez
      @Chucktinez Před rokem

      2020 is still pretty new to have issues. Usually turbos start having issues around 80-120k based on my Toyota tech guy.

  • @akdular6031
    @akdular6031 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You said do not buy, why you have one on the back?

  • @robertstevens871
    @robertstevens871 Před rokem +2

    I'm with you on the 24 Tacoma if I buy another vehicle it will have a V6 in like the tundra and I plan on keeping my 18 Tacoma it's almost paid off but thanks for your input I agree 💯%

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life Před rokem +13

    Let Toyota bullet-proof it? Do you realize that Toyota tests their vehicles in other markets for literally years? I probably will, and would have no reservations buying one of these. The additional features make this very intriguing. You’re way off base.

    • @punisherusmc
      @punisherusmc Před 2 měsíci +2

      Agreed, the USA is always the last market for new vehicles to get released. These 4cyl turbos aren’t going to do well in the USA. The guy doing this video is correct about turbos warming up and cooling down, Americans are impatient people for the most part.

    • @lurkintomgaming397
      @lurkintomgaming397 Před měsícem

      They’re not selling

  • @TangoFighter
    @TangoFighter Před rokem +11

    The big problem will be the price. I'd honestly be surprised if a mid-level 4th-gen comes in under 70k. That's just too much.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv Před rokem +1

      Price depends on which adds you make during the purchase! That's why there are sooo many configurations

    • @newagecuck
      @newagecuck Před rokem +5

      why would they price it to compete with the tundra? it wouldnt make sense for them to out price the big truck with a mid size, if anything the trailhunter will be the same price as a TRD off road tundra like 55-60

    • @supervong1
      @supervong1 Před rokem +3

      The Tacomas wont hit 60k.

    • @newagecuck
      @newagecuck Před rokem

      @@supervong1 the Dealers will lol

    • @Dreese941
      @Dreese941 Před rokem +1

      You realize that's capstone tundra price right? They will not be in the same price range as their fullsize.

  • @PaulWall78
    @PaulWall78 Před 3 měsíci +1

    EXACTLY my thoughts! well explained, from a 93 mr2 turbo owner.. turbos do not last and the maintenance is a headache.

  • @Ash13ley100
    @Ash13ley100 Před rokem +1

    Great video as always! ❤

  • @Vdeinnar
    @Vdeinnar Před rokem +5

    I agree with you on the turbo. You need to baby it for it to last a little longer. Take note, "a little longer"

  • @ejesoriginal
    @ejesoriginal Před rokem +15

    Even though these drivetrain and powerplants are proven in other Toyota vehicles for years now, I agree with you on waiting a year or two just because they are being assembled into a new platform. If they were coming directly from Japan like the 4runner, I'd be less concerned. I just purchased a 23 4runner two months ago and a new Tundra 3 years ago for the same reasons. I don't want, or need, all those so called "improvements" and I want to be able to work on my own vehicle as much as possible. Hopefully I gambled correctly and won't have to do that very often anyway... My Tundra has had only one minor issue in the last 3 years; a wonky door hinge bushing 2 years ago which they fixed in 30 minutes. I can live with that after owning a Dodge truck for 15 years before that (constant headaches).

  • @Unfinished_Thoughts
    @Unfinished_Thoughts Před 10 měsíci +1

    I agree with the electric end hybrid concerns you’re bringing to the table along with the fact that they are packing so many electronic features that are doomed to fail; It’s just a matter of when. I disagree with the turbocharger portion you mentioned as I’ve had two Subaru WRX (05 and 17); Have always warmed them up very diligently, every single day, never punish them and kept a flawless maintenance schedule up to date. Never done the turbo cooldown routine not even 30 seconds and have never had a fault ! Hopefully the price of this Tacoma is fair and dealerships do not ruin it for us in terms of mark ups and my wife and I will probably be game for one ! All the best to you !

    • @Scroll_Lock
      @Scroll_Lock Před 5 měsíci

      I am very much against the switch to Turbo and Hybrid with all the added in cab electronics.,.. It's not the Toyota I respected. " Hopefully the price of this Tacoma is fair and dealerships do not ruin it for us.." fast forward 5 months and your hopes are shattered. 🤣

  • @napoland9676
    @napoland9676 Před rokem

    i have the same concerns. That's why I have a 2008 4x4 4 banger 5spd with manual roll down windows. Nothing's broken yet!

  • @montebeerbower7796
    @montebeerbower7796 Před rokem +4

    I disagree. I sold my tacoma and hated too but my back and legs would hurt after just 30 min. I drive my vehicle at least 3 to 5 hrs or more every weekend with the wife. Seating position killed it but I loved it other wise. Now it seems they kept the type of look and interior look but updated it and gave us power seats not on the floor. I have a deposit on a new 24 trd pro and plan on this being my last vehicle. Time it gets here next yr I'll be 61. Can't wait... had hard time deciding between trims. 1st had it on trail hunter then more I thought about it went to pro. I could care less about power tail gate bur oh well.

  • @thealphaomega1
    @thealphaomega1 Před rokem +8

    One of the most demonstrative interior qualities is the lack of accessory attachment points. The dash is void of open spaces and the mega screen captures any remaining accessible real estate. I agree. I am going to stick with my 2020 OR.

  • @chrissanchez-qt1hl
    @chrissanchez-qt1hl Před rokem

    Wouldn’t warranty just cover it?

  • @kevinflick4331
    @kevinflick4331 Před rokem

    Had a 94 Tacoma before kids. Now that they are on their own just got a 2016 TRD Off
    Road with a cap 38,000 miles never driven in our Michigan winters. Will be my retirement rig and will be making solo trips to the Upper Peninsula and out west. Have enjoyed your videos.

  • @rupman27isback
    @rupman27isback Před rokem +5

    I don't agree to wait that long. I have a 2018 tacoma and had no major issues with it. Just a few recalls that didn't effect the cars performance at all.
    And the TRD pro is gonna start around 55k.

    • @xbantrax7757
      @xbantrax7757 Před rokem +1

      same me and my mother both got 3rd gen tacos and nothing dramatic just the 3rdbreak light seal and misc stuff , she has a 2017 and i got a 2018

  • @TonyGuy-jc9cp
    @TonyGuy-jc9cp Před 8 měsíci +5

    You’re talking about a Toyota son not a Audi

    • @hamocktrail
      @hamocktrail Před 8 měsíci +1

      😂 you are 💯 % correct on that. But he is a young guy or new generation 😂 his not broken his learning 😂👍🏻

  • @ENTJ47
    @ENTJ47 Před rokem

    Have you owned 2.4 Toyota/Lexus Turbos Cars?

  • @4rr44E
    @4rr44E Před rokem +2

    There’s a reason why I went with the new Pro-4X. Naturally aspirated V6 and no goofy gimmicks = longevity.

  • @brookinsfishing
    @brookinsfishing Před rokem +3

    We are talking about Toyota here who leads in reliability and has had decades to perfect its hybrid power train. New turbo vehicles with modern twin scroll turbos don’t have the warm up cool down issues of the past. The gadgets and electronification of everything was necessary to compete with the Ranger and Colorado. Plus 465 torque. Enjoy your 3rd gen!

    • @xbantrax7757
      @xbantrax7757 Před rokem +1

      gonna trade in my 3rd gen asap the 2024 trd pro rolls out

  • @bx_718stryker7
    @bx_718stryker7 Před rokem +7

    Exactly, I kee getting asked if I'm trading in my 2020 for a 2024. Nope. I will wait til at least the 3rd year of the 4th gen. A lot of people are getting suckered into the hp/torque numbers of the new hybrid but I honestly just wanted the same V6 with a turbo or twin turbo, kind of like my old F150 3.5L Ecoboost I used to have before the Taco. I had great power and mpg balance while still enjoying a nice exhaust sound from the v6 turbo.

    • @Grinfas
      @Grinfas Před rokem

      2020 Tacoma is a beauty!

    • @sethrich5998
      @sethrich5998 Před rokem

      What blows my mind is that even with the HP/TQ upgrade… the towing capacity went down!
      Pretty absurd to add that much power and a new stronger frame, and not increase towing. Payload went up some, but not that significantly.

  • @kidlo2050
    @kidlo2050 Před rokem

    Things i hate about the 2024 tacoma:
    Electronic hand brake, hybrid, 4cyl turbo, the button on the shifter
    Can someone tell me why toyota uses a button on the shifter now because my 09 corolla doesn't have one and my mom 17 camry doesn't have one. I hate trying to press the button to shift into drive or reverse.

  • @ninjapie117
    @ninjapie117 Před rokem +1

    This video made less frustrated buying the 23. I was so mad looking at the new interior and screen. I love it my TRD offroad still

  • @thomassanio8745
    @thomassanio8745 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Agree, agree, agree. And I also think pricing will be insane. I would definitely wait and see on the new engine. Many people were not even fans of the Atkinson 3.5L V6. The older Tacomas had the best engine, the tried and true 1GR-FE 4L V6. Combine that with the new truck not being ready for 35’s without cutting and I don’t think Toyota hit a home run with this one. But time will tell.

    • @nivrag00
      @nivrag00 Před 9 měsíci

      damn it cant fit 35s? i wasnt sure but that hurts to hear

  • @PROutdoors94
    @PROutdoors94 Před rokem +3

    Many valid points. I’m hoping the turbo and electric motor will be fine though. Toyota has been doing both of these and doing them very well for many years. It isn’t exactly their first rodeo.
    Agree on the tailgate button, that was the most unnecessary feature that will be sure to be a headache down the road.
    Only time will tell!!

  • @PrepperDawg
    @PrepperDawg Před rokem +1

    I will be keeping my 2021 V6 access cab long bed taco. The rig may outlive me 😂

  • @g-unit2372
    @g-unit2372 Před rokem +2

    I agree 👍, people these days are more impressed by the bells and whistles of a vehicle instead of the reliability.
    I love my 2019 tundra,
    It might not half a flat screen t.v on the dashboard like the 2023,
    But I can guarantee my truck will last longer to everyday wear and tear, and I won't have the electronic and turbo issue from these little engines there putting in these trucks,
    That aren't even giving you that much better MPG.
    Now if Toyota could do a true hybrid truck like the Prius that actually got you 30 to 40 MPG
    I would be interested,
    Otherwise I'm sticking with what works 😊👍
    For people who don't like what I'm saying, I will wave 👋 at you when I drive by you while broke down on the side road 🛣️ 😉
    Lol 😂😆😢

  • @randomrebuilds
    @randomrebuilds Před rokem +5

    3rd Gen is the happy medium for the right balance of technology and longevity. The weakness is the TSS front sensor and stability control system. The 4th gen has electronic key fob, electronic parking brake, and worst of all - the turbo 4cyl or the hybrid 4 cyl. The suspension seats look sweet, but will come with a cost - watch and see the competitors come out on their trucks.

  • @josephgarcia2979
    @josephgarcia2979 Před měsícem

    One thing you can't deny about the Tacoma is that they hold their value because they are highly desirable. As a matter of fact, I just sold my 2021 Tacoma with the SX package with 47,000 miles for $25,000, after having paid $30,000 for it back in January of 2021.

  • @timcollins2255
    @timcollins2255 Před rokem +1

    I heard a lot of issues with the turbo

  • @SupramanTRD
    @SupramanTRD Před 9 měsíci +7

    I agree with pretty much all of that. Especially the pricing. In my area, current trd pro tacomas are going for $75K without markup. I can see the new one going for over $100K once dealers and scalpers get their hands on them. It will probably take 3-4 years before they get mass produced enough to become affordable.

    • @threadoflife
      @threadoflife Před 9 měsíci +4

      R u kidding me 75k I was told 53k in Arizona for a 2023 TRD pro where do you live?

    • @ccsocal768
      @ccsocal768 Před 7 měsíci

      And the 2024 Land Cruiser is going for mid 50s.😂😂😂. Guess I will get one of those?

  • @richardroberts6472
    @richardroberts6472 Před rokem +5

    IF i buy a 4th gen itll be the at least the second to last year in the generation. Im right there with yea. The first couple years of a new gen needs the kinks worked out. Especially a complete redesign. Great video. 👍👍

  • @ShadowxxPanda
    @ShadowxxPanda Před rokem +2

    I think they failed with the xtracab prerunner. It should have been an access cab with the storage options as reaching over the seat all the time to reach something in the back is a PITA. Hell there is even a video of the chief engineer having trouble to reach something in the back. Also the rear suspension was a mistake with the leaf springs being under the axel as that limits the lift options and will probably only be used to lower the truck like what other people did with the Nissan hardbody RWD. The prerunner with be terrible for off roading. They can say that they moved to xtracab for crash tests, but I bet it is to save cost and the MSRP will still be more expensive than previous years for the prerunner. Also they should have left the push start as an option. If I ever do get a 4th gen I will probably get a crew cab and delete the back seats to get what I wanted out of the prerunner.

  • @EJ257IHI
    @EJ257IHI Před 7 měsíci

    Most turbo engines have a separate coolant reservoir that dumps it through the bearings after you shut off the engine, besides use good Synthetic Oil like RedLine or Amsoil and you should not have issues.

  • @costcokid
    @costcokid Před rokem +3

    I totally agree. You should wait at least a decade after a new model is released, or at least 5 years after a model refresh to make sure all the bugs are worked out before you buy a new truck. after that, i recommend leasing, maxing it out for overlanding and trading it in each time a new TRD Pro color is released.

    • @cobyjones9519
      @cobyjones9519 Před rokem +2

      Wait 5-10 years to buy a new or refreshed vehicle...that's absurd. It's not like the car companies just started making vehicles last year. Most have been around for longer than the most of us have been alive.

    • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
      @PNW_Sportbike_Life Před rokem +1

      5-10 years? Are you serious?

    • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
      @PNW_Sportbike_Life Před rokem +1

      @@cobyjones9519completely absurd lol

    • @xbantrax7757
      @xbantrax7757 Před rokem

      @@PNW_Sportbike_Life right people that own a 3rd gen taco since 2017 been dying for a 4th gen taco

  • @humpycove
    @humpycove Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for no bull honesty. Agree on major(most) points. 👍✌️

  • @stevenstinchcomb6440
    @stevenstinchcomb6440 Před rokem

    i feel the same way, got a 2023 off road i may regret it but i know i won’t have any issues

  • @grasslad6898
    @grasslad6898 Před rokem +1

    This is exactly why I have gotten so frustrated seeing the Tiktoks, youtube videos, etc where people list their gripes and complain about the Tacoma that consist of the lack of electronics and features. This is why those that buy them have them! The reliability of new vehicles without the nonsense attached that will break and fail. It really is disappointing that there are now no barebones, simple trucks left.
    Those who complain about these things really miss what made 1st through 3rd gen trucks so great. You want rear A/C, Wifi, and force inducted engines? Great, pick up literally any other new vehicle on the road.
    It's a sad day for simplistic rig lovers.

  • @JohnnyBoy919
    @JohnnyBoy919 Před rokem

    I agree with you on the seats. Time will tell regarding the powertrain.

  • @goldblueberries326
    @goldblueberries326 Před rokem +2

    The trd pro seats are way too techie....

    • @andrebarde9586
      @andrebarde9586 Před rokem +1

      Yea…it’s too over the top. Expensive and gimmicky. A poor and unessesary addition by Toyota. Also,the only color available is that creepy red color. A waste.

  • @maxstrass
    @maxstrass Před 7 měsíci

    This is exactly why I hopped in a 23 OR when I did. I didn’t want to wait and get stuck with a 4 banger hybrid in a TRUCK, I understand going to a 4 cylinder in a crossover, but not a truck. Also, when it comes to the off-road oriented models, how many times can they be submerged in muddy water up to the doors before the electric motors have had enough? I’ll stick with my “outdated” V6 knowing that it’s gonna last me and not swarm me with electrical issues

  • @DJOZMET
    @DJOZMET Před 10 měsíci

    2023 or 2024?

  • @pbj5725
    @pbj5725 Před rokem +2

    I just don't think the hybrid version will last as long nor have the same resale value. Will the hybrid batteries last like 100k, 200k, 300k miles? Yes, I see the comment, "The hybrid system in the Prius and Rav4 have been around for years." But that's a Prius...it's not hauling or towing or overlanding. Not as heavy or powering as much features and electronics.

  • @donaldstogner9518
    @donaldstogner9518 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I agree. I think Toyota has gotten too complicated with the Tacoma. I got the SR 4x4 Double Cab and it was 30K in 2018. I would like to see what a lot of the Gen 1s had with locking hubs and a shift operated transfer case, etc. They could offer the more complicated features as an option but would do well to offer a basic 4x4 under 30K.

    • @Scroll_Lock
      @Scroll_Lock Před 5 měsíci

      Nissan did it right with the "new" Frontier. I was really wishing Toyota would have gone that route with the Tacoma and the 4Runner but they started stealing adderall from their new customer base instead.

  • @macneoh7418
    @macneoh7418 Před 2 měsíci

    The price, high interest rates, inflation, and the feeling the economy is going to tank at any time is what's keeping me from training in my 2017 TRD off-road.

  • @nastysoda9212
    @nastysoda9212 Před rokem +5

    The new tacoma is an urban mall crawler. It's not for previous tacoma owners that are after a simple mid size truck that will last 2 decades or more. Just refer to the new Tundra and all their issues. They made a collant pipe plastic, it leaks within a year, and you have to lift the cab off the frame to replace it.
    Best to just keep your old truck forever and replace things as they break, egnine, trans everything.

    • @BFVsnypEz
      @BFVsnypEz Před rokem

      Exactly my thoughts.

    • @alexsmba
      @alexsmba Před rokem +2

      Well old Tacoma owners are scaredy cats. Probably hated electric windows when they came out. Toyota wants to widen its customer base and go after the bigger market, who aren’t living in fear.

    • @DavidDiSante
      @DavidDiSante Před rokem

      "You have to lift the cab off the frame to replace it." Well, umm, yeah...that's kinda how body-on-frame works, and something like 98% of trucks are just that.

  • @theoutdoordad7395
    @theoutdoordad7395 Před 3 měsíci

    Hoping to get one eventually but I really want to see hvac for back seats shouldn’t be too much to ask for in 2024

  • @dharmaboy75
    @dharmaboy75 Před rokem

    I drove a 2019 Civic Si for 4 years before I decided on something more practical and got my TRD Sport Premium manual transmission. The main features that I loved of my Civic with all its tech was the MT, good handling, traction control and ABS as we get -40C winters here in Canada. Slap on some winter tires and you're good. My favourite part was Apple Car Play.The new Tacoma has too many gadgets you don't need or ever will need. Keep it simple like McGyver's Swiss Army knife. You don't need much tech to daily drive a Tacoma.

  • @Minimumholloway
    @Minimumholloway Před rokem +1

    Yup, wait till the first owner takes all the bugs out, then buy a used one.