Tacoma Trailhunter VS Colorado ZR2 - Which Is The Best Midsize Truck?
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- čas přidán 1. 10. 2023
- This week we compare the ALL NEW Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter to Chevrolet's Colorado ZR2 to see which is the better trail rig.
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Zr2! Having lockers all around is a big deal for me.
Lockers don't really help off-road. They're only useful when you get stuck in snow
@driftx2 I suppose if you pretty much are driving dirt trails, sure lockers might not be needed. They are most definitely useful for rock crawling pretty much anything other than dirt roads.
I have found the lockers in my zr2 to be highly helpful climbing loose dirt/rock hills.
Taco has torque vectoring so rear lockers and the disconnect up front will likely be plenty. I have a deposit down on a TRD Pro. ZR2s are junk and cheaply made.
@@F3RN250cool story Bro, you sound bias 😂
I have owned both the ZR2 and the Tacoma, and I liked them both. Have to confess I liked my old Off-Road Tacoma more than my old ZR2, but the tides have turned. The new ZR2 is a perfect blend of comfort and off-road capability in a much nicer exterior package. 💯
In your opinion yes
@@joseeduardo4327 Ya think?
Really good luck with your Chevy 😅😅Toyota is a better truck by far .
I was set on looking into a 2023 canyon at4 but this tacoma trail hunter with all its features made me switch real quick
Like the extra storage room in the Taco but love the interior of my canyon AT4X. Also no matter how you look at it, time and time again lockers are superior to Atrac
Its a chevy.....not a real offroader
@@gabeslb can't wait for the head to head videos next year. Lockers have all ready been proven superior to Atrac systems
@@gabeslbbahahaha then you obviously don't know shit about car's or truck's as Chevy's dominated the mid truck market as far as off road capabilities with their truck's. My 16 Colorado out does any factory ranger orTacoma. I actually off road mine pretty often an is super Capable of going anywhere.
Its still clowning the taco 😅 @gabeslb b
@@gabeslb LMAO is that why Toyota pulled out of the Best in the Desert series after the last gen ZR2 joined the same class? I remember Toyota dumped a mountain of cash into building a truck for the series and Hall Racing unveiled that they were going to compete in the same class with the brand new ZR2 and Toyota pulled that truck from the series overnight without explanation.
ZR2 the all around clear winner. Its a superior truck
Haha dont cry
100%
ZR2 trash
The ZR2 took this segment to the next level several years ago and I still haven’t found a reason to look beyond it. Amazingly capable right from the factory.
Except the colorados just randomly stop working, that’d be a pretty good reason to look beyond.
Lol sure
And ZR2 will be $5-10k cheaper
Just like every other midsized truck in the segment. I like a truck personally not a fancy truck i don't use them features, I went and bought the 3rd gen Tacoma before they turbocharged it. I'm happy AF and mine is the total basic 📦 less shit to break later. There's no way I'd be happy with these new trucks with all this goofy technology! Take a look at Andre from "TFL truck" he bought a '23 trail Boss already had a problem being bricked out! Like 7,000 miles. Technologies all fine and dandy until you start to have problems with it when you need. Not my 🍵 of Joe.
Reliability. GM doesn’t have it.
Digging the Colorado ZR2.
Wow the ZR2 trim has come a long way since the days of the old S10 platform!
Before S10 was the Chevy Luv
Only thing I’m disappointed in is No Rear AC/Heat Vents. When you take your family on a trip. The back passengers should to be comfortable too. You shouldn’t have to blast the front AC/Heat for back passengers to be comfortable
The ZR2 DOES have rear vents
Did you watch the video?
Both excellent trucks. I chose the '23 Colorado ZR2 and VERY pleased with it both on and off road. SOLID.
Out of all of these new trucks chevy and gmc really know what's up. They look great compared to other brands
Aloha Gentlemen. This is an excellent and comprehensive video analysis for the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 and the Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter. Great job guys.
Thank you!
nice work boys, thank you
Wait what?! Sway bar disconnect? That's awesome! 😎
I just picked up a 2023 ZR2 and love it so far. Wife is a big truck girl too and she loved it the from the moment we went to go check it out. Super comfortable and just looks beautiful however i haven't had a chance to hit the trails YET but cant wait. Super happy with my purchase
Right on! And we love it too!!! Let us know when you hit the trails.
Not even coil springs on the rear of the ZR2?
As a multiple Chevy owner I can attest they look awesome. However if you want a truck that will not keep you in the shop buy a Toyota. Period. End of discussion.
LOL
@@docholliday7548it’s true
The only new Toyotas I’ve seen come in with issues were because the customer pulled the transmission oil plug instead of the engine when trying to do their own (free if done by us under 30k) oil change.
No joke here. I own a 2017 Colorado diesel. Switched from a Taco to the Colorado because of the Duramax. Range is awesome … but, 6 years later, I have no heat in the cab. $4,500 to fix it … some odd diverter part buried in the dash … requires full dash removal. On a truck with only 55K miles. This new Tacoma design and this hybrid motor will bring me back. No BS issues on Toyotas period.
My new at the time 2022 Toyota Tacomas ac heater blew at 400 miles, started having electrical problems, kept taking it back, payed it off only put 3k miles on it and got rid of that POS for a much more powerful, better looking Colorado Trail Boss, plus I got the 430torque calibration!
Nice review!!
Thanks!
As an Iforce, does it have the timing belt or chain?
I have a 2006 GMC Canyon SLE with z71 suspension with a few issues can't towe, but how is the Cany/ colorado z71 at towing? #FutureRide #Save #Lottery #Start aFamily with my girlfriend I met at my old retail job.
cant wait to see them on a trail for comparison
Taking bets on which goes out first on the GM.
Engine or trans?
Lol
Both.
Wrong
1st time on your video, I would like to know how tall aee you guys to gage the back seats.
Man if they kept the features like headlights on the analog side, I’d definitely take the zr2 but I’ve seen too many software issues that might be problematic when you actually need the truck
My favorite was the charging port or door handles not working on Tesla's. woopsies.
They no longer have software issues..
@@djcan9503 until the next one.
So since 99 chevy has had auto headlights but the fact you can't have a knob would stop you from buying 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤡🤡
This is your reason? Lol 🤡
As a multiple Toyota and Honda owner, I can say this with confidence.. Japanese engineering is hard to surpass when it comes to crafting cars and trucks. Their meticulous attention to detail and adherence to rigorous standards are commendable. While Japanese vehicles may not always win in terms of aesthetics, their reliability is unmatched. In essence, if you prioritize appearance, opt for an American-engineered vehicle. However, if you value quality, reliability, and your Wallet lol, Japanese vehicles are the way to go, any time of day.
I would love a trailhunter 6ft bed, no snorkel or Bed Rack so I can put a camper on it and not feel like I wasted money on that Bed Rack. As for the tires, Toyota has commented previously that the tires they choose are for NVH and to avoid negative reviews in the first 6 months of ownership and that off-roaders will but the tires they like to use anyways regardless of which truck they buy. The only thing that bums me out on the Tacoma is the lack of rear air conditioning for my dogs. I won’t be getting a new truck until next year so I’ll be checking out the entire segment before making a decision
So basically the TRD Pro…
@@nlmaster9811 nope, TRD Pro does not come with a 6ft bed, and will likely have lower payload due to the OEM Fox Shocks
ARB is making a bed bar setup in conjunction with Toyota that uses that rack as the front, so you can mount a tent. I'm hoping that it means it will be easily modular so I can take the tent off and have full access to the bed again easily and vice versa.
My ZR2 lasted 5 years without any issues except:
- The headlights were a joke. I believe I read that the previous-gen Colorado has the worst headlights sold in North America.
- 8 speed had a class action lawsuit against it, one of the worst transmissions ever
I ultimately sold it because I couldn’t safely drive it in my climate due to the transmission shifting improperly without throttle and causing wheel spin.
But if those things are fixed here, would LOVE to get one again…
Nailed my two major thoughts/concerns EXACTLY with my 2016 Z71.
You should of gone with the diesel colorado and the 6 speed transmission in them is much more reliable.
8 speed trans is the biggest reason I won't buy one. That's why I'm looking at the Taco.
I've got an 8 speed in a 19 Trailboss. It's fine.
@@terrencejones9817 I wish they would've used the 10-speed like the Ford Ranger and my 20 Trail Boss LT has.
This was the same Tacoma that had 198mi? If so it had 15 mpg average 😢 I hope that won’t be accurate 😂
Its a hybrid and has a smaller engine, same size knobby tires, the Taco should do better. Hwy mileage, probably not much difference.
It was probably sitting out in the Texas heat running all the time to keep it cool for journalists.
I'm sure they will sell it with a story of 20-25mpg and it will get 14 just like the last generation. Chevy is every bit as bad. You can see the mpg of the zr2 in tfl's desert drive
That Skid plate overhang in the front looks lkke it will hang up. It should join the front bumper. The gap looks like it will fill up with mud.
ZR2 Bison would be a better comparison vehicle for the TRD Trailhunter.
TRD Pro vs ZR2
TRD Off Road vs Z71
Nah, the OffRoad needs to go up agains the TrailBoss
Why didn’t Toyota put air vents for the back seat like they did in the new hilux gr
They have to cut costs back for recession coming. Everyone is doing it. That’s why older models have gone up in value.
toyota is known for saving little shit like that for the following year as their refresh cycles are about 6 years. i’m sure they’ll add that along with the center arm rest on the back seats along with other minor upgrades like that in a couple years
Why does the zr2 display have two "fuel" indicators on lower left?
How much do people finance on new purchases with these trucks?
For 10k less, I'll take the ZR2.
You will lose more than that in resale value. Tacoma's hold there value much longer.
@@erichimmelreich9372 Not true any longer. Check out the Toyota Tacomas reliability rating. It’s not what it used to be.
@@erichimmelreich9372also, zr2 resale is awesome
@GregEmburyK4GTE still better than a Chevy.
@@erichimmelreich9372 Ok. What are you 12 ?
I like how you can rip the front end off the truck if you actually ue the recovery hook
Tires stink on the Tacoma
im curious with the light bar coming on when you have your high beams on if you'll have issues on the highway with police?
They'll almost never pull you over for it. Depends on the state, but in CO you can have 4 lights on the front of your vehicle on the roadway. They don't distinguish between individual bulbs or units though.
Having said that - don't be that guy with the light bar active on the highway.
I like both trucks but for me its all about reliability and Toyota is know for that plus all the extra features on the Taco are a win aswell
What about the Gladiator Rubicon?
My favourite trim on the 2024 Toyota Tacoma the trailhunter,& I bet I would look awesome in the classic Sandstone colour!.Iv seen one 2023 Toyota Hilux here in Chingola(Zambia),it looks nice.
Loved the dirt wrap looks great at whole foods. 😂
Boyyyy Cant wait to receive my sr5 4x4 hunter !!
No cap + water = Bad day
No boat launching without caution if there's alge on the ramp or your crossing creek you could be in trouble. Seems like off road pkg would definitely have a gas cap option 🤔
😍 ILL take the TrailHunter...but, its going to be $90,000,000,000,000,000! I just buy the SR ...if i can afford it.
Wrong choice. It’s not good looking and Toyota infotainment sucks! The inside still looks out of date.
@@wint_62 Colorado is all PLASTIC. GOOD LUCK GOING over walmart speed bumps without destroying the engine, bending the frame, suspension, and trans. But, its a govt motors product and will be bailout again to keep producing POS.
@@wint_62better than the rest that zr2 sucks
@@wint_62 stop capping bro that infotament in the new Tacoma is good and very responsive
My only gripe about this vehicle, which I hope it's changed from this pre-production model, is how shiny the plastic inside is on the doors and such. Hoping that's just a mold being used for now, and the final product has a more matte plastic color.
ZR2 all the way!!
I like both trucks. The Toyota has some unique features and will undoubtedly have excellent reliability and resale value. Nonetheless, I would probably purchase the ZR2 for its (likely) superior off-road capability and interior design.
I've purchased several vehicles and interior design was never a consideration. Function over form
Will the taco power Tailgate fall off like I've seen in the desert?
I'm sure the tires are pre production. Yes I know the trd pro came with a decent tire.
One can hope 😂
Im a chevy guy but damn toyota has some cool features like the fog lights and the JBL speaker
Sportbar on the Tacoma should be an option not standard.
Just came to see how many arguments from the Toyota fanboys were won with reliabilty and resale. Looks like most of them. Hows the breakover angle? Reliable. Whats the fording depth? Resale value.
Comment of the day, hands down!
@@TexasTruckChannel Thank you!
Great trucks! ZR2 has a lot more useful features but Toyota reliability pushed me towards the Tacoma.
Keep in mind that reliability record is with NA engines the new tundra has had many engine failures. Supposedly they have a fix for it now 2 years later.
the chevy looks so damn good
Might want to adjust the Mack daddy H Town seating position on that passenger seat before you determine rear seat leg room
😂
Why did y'all block the tacoma dash? was that MPG? is the MPG that bad that Toyota is afraid to share?
Jc the Zr2 mpg is way worse than my 2022 F-150 2.7 on 35's with Livernois tune! 😂😂😂 I get 20 city/25 hwy!
I would love a dark brown leather interior with that bronze oxide exterior.😮
It’s only fair that if you have the Tacoma Pathfinder you should compare it to the ZR2 Bison while y’all should compare the ZR2 with the TRD and the Raptor.
Otherwise great video!!
Tacoma 'Trailhunter'...
The tow hooks on the Tacoma are too far under the truck. You'll have to dig for those the first time you get stuck in the mud.
I agree they're in a bad location but at least it has them. Many people have been saying the Tacoma doesn't have any front recovery points.
Not to mention the "skid plate " will get peeled back the first rock ledge it hits. Why does it hang down like that?? Really odd design choice.
@@morgancook6481 I agree 100%. I feel like the people designing todays trucks and SUVs have no idea what they're doing. Maybe they've never owned one.
when do these drop
ZR2 for me … just way more capability & nicer design IMO.
Lol how is the chevy more capable than the toyota? Colorados have crap resale and horrible reliability before this model and now they have turbos.. Yota all the way
@@Boltdriver70 LOL Ok Captain Extra-Chromosome, more capable means actually having a front locker, something the Toyota STILL doesn't have....and so I'll be buying a ZR2. You can cry about it if you like.
@@kx8960 lol calm down man it's the internet
@@Boltdriver70dude resale value isn't everything. Hahaha you don't buy a car or truck for resale value you by them because toy like what it has an can do. The ZR2 is an all be me capable as it'll have better approach angles depart angles ground clearance front an rear lockers an so on. The ZR2 was purposely built for off roading the trailhunter looks more like a better grocery getter. Also the colorados have actually been pretty reliable as i can attest to that first hand I own a 16 that i frequently beat to shit and keeps on going with no issue's besides having to replace one of the nox sensors but that's it.
@@Boltdriver70The irony to me is you're knocking GM when your name indicates you drive a GM that has absolutely nothing to do with this segment. If you truly were concerned about resale value, you would've done your homebody before purchasing.
Which ventilated seats are better ?
Colorado
Toyota sure did up their game on this truck. It’s one good looking Tacoma. I’m sure it will make a fine truck for seeking Bigfoot.
can you get a 6 foot bed in the trail hunter?
yes
My 2005 Colorado had some funky thing about it that when you turn right, the truck would act like it was stalling out. My 2015 Colorado is doing the exact same stupid thing. I’m ready to give Toyota a chance!
Hmm that's odd I've got a 16 and never experienced that. What engine do you have?
184 mile range on almost 3/4 tank? I have this truck myself in white and I get 502 miles to a full tank almost every time.
Better see this review again but with the Bison next year
Deal!
This Taco looks sick!
No storage under the seat. 😬. I use my flat floor on my truck constantly
What is the price on the Tacoma?
The ZR2 any day
Toyota hit it out of the park with this model. Awesome!
No headlights if your display goes out due to lack of switches that with no gas cap means water is the Achilles heel
Looks like that Trailhunter was averaging about 26 mpg. Not bad.
I do think the Trailhunter is the coolest version of the new Tacoma, but I feel like that thing is way more than even a Bison equipped ZR2. You can get a ZR2 for a well equipped Tacoma Offroad too so I think the ZR2 is the bigger value even though that Trailhunter has some really cool gimmicky stuff on it like the air compressor and exterior bed lights.
I'm just afraid what the price is going to be for trail hunter. I think I'm still going with the zr2
The ZR2 is more capable. The TurboMax can be tuned stock and make 350whp and over 500lb ft of torque on 93 octane and still hold the power reliably. Trifecta has a milder option if you don't want the extra power and just want a healthy dosage of torque and some horsepower
@@saltyfloridaman7163 yeah even if they say its a toyota having a hybrid is not cheap at all. specially where i live mechanics are not that accustomed to working with hybrids at all maybe at least in the next 10 years.
Wait.. so the snorkel is not a traditional snorkel and is there only for dust mitigation?
Roughly @ 12:30
Too many unsealed electronics onboard for Toyota to endorse deep water fording. They have stated it is for cleaner air when on dusty trails.
Well, FINALLY one is available, and I'm picking up my blue, loaded (with sunroof) ZR2 tomorrow!🤘🤘
No under seat storage on the taco is an instant deal breaker
In case anyone is wondering what was on the censored dashboard, it is either:
1. That it was averaging 15.4 mpg
2. That the mpg gauge goes 0-60 instead of 0-30
Just to eliminate any mystery, we blurred the fuel data because this engineering test mule was not calibrated yet. The number indicated was in no way accurate.
Has toyota figured out how to make frames that do not rot out yeat?
Ranger raptor might be better than both of those . But trail hunter . I can count on Toyota to work . The Colorado battery issues insane.
Ranger Raptor is supposedly going to list for 56,000 puts it between the Trailhunter and the ZR2. Its Baja oriented like the TRD pro though.
😂😂 😂😂😂 ranger and raptor better thentoyota 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪🤪🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I’ve had 4 tacos and currently own a 19 ZR2. The ZR2 is hands down the most off road capable truck I’ve owned but something tells me it just is t as reliable as I found the tacos to be but so far it’s been amazing. Last 2 tacos had sc on them and no issues and lots of fun. Getting ready to put an sc on the ZR2 and as quick as the sc 15 taco was (380hp) I’m thinking the ZR2 is gonna b quicker.
You have the v6 or diesel?
@@dboy8945 the v6. Quick is not a description u could give the diesel no matter if it’s tuned and deleted.
@dansherwood9851 ok good to hear, really thinking of getting a v6 zr2 over getting a new 2023
@@dboy8945my 21 zr2 v6 is a blast to drive. Traded in my 20 trd off road because i hated that gutless taco. Zr2 waaaay more fun to drive
I want both
Chevy looks hella buff💪not a fan of all the technology inside tho... I wish my truck had the 🪨 rails/frame sliders & all the skid plates! That's a really 🆒 addition I added the catalytic converter transmission 🛡️ so that tweakers can't get to it lol. Only problem you add all those rock rails and it eats into your payload real quick
Makes you look cool when you're at Whole Foods...
Hood Proprod for good reliability in the front, and electric motorized tailgate in the back😆 If only they came the 4.0l or a normal gas only engine😞
Don’t know why Toyota is allergic to front lockers. That and long travel for the top trims would take it to the next level. But I’d still go the taco route personally and just throw a front locker in there if I had the funds.
Great review gents, but I’ll take a 85’ K10 4x4 over both of those.
Hell yea man i would too if i had one lol. Great trucks though and super fun. I had a 76 K5 and that thing was awesome and miss it all the time.
Zr2 would be my choice 👍🏼
I’m a huge fan of technological advances but personally I don’t want the majority of the things I need in a screen. I don’t trust technology THAT much. But that’s just me. It’s a hard choice. Love the look of the taco but I can’t help thinking there’s a a lot you could save money on by doing yourself. But Toyota is known for reliability. Chevys got some good things going for that ZR2 and I’d prefer the less is more look definitely. I’d just want it to make sure I get from point A to point C without stopping at B. But I’m not even looking into buying a truck yet so these are just my thoughts 😂😂
You would like a NISSAN for simplicity and reliability, looks
I own 23 Tacoma and would go with the Chevy if I had to choose because it is more capable just from lockers alone and not to mention higher articulation etc. Tacoma basically gave us the same old and jumped the price.
Why would you not want a fuel cap seem like a great way to get dirt water debris in the tank
This is my thought also. Engineers apparently have never been in wet muddy conditions. Had to put fuel in a former employers (non GM) truck with the then new capless system. It was full of dirt and no way to get it all out, so some dirt went in. Also, in wet weather, I;m sure some water pools there, and ends up in the fuel, too. Capless is a really dumb idea.
Both a great, but I personally love trail hunter more 👌
Im really looking forward to the new tacoma, its got some really cool features that im excited about
OEM Compressor is 🔥
I sure hope Toyota's 'extra's' don't hurt reliability.
For remote travel and anything crazy, I much prefer less tech.
All that said, certainly some nice creature comforts and I appreciate the thought that went into it.
MPG blurred out and all the tires are over 50 psi 😅 Toyota really worried about economy numbers getting out.
How reliable are the engines in Colorado?
They're pulling around Silverados and Sierra. I bet they're working more efficiently in a lighter truck. Toyota didn't put their 4 cylinder in the Tundra. I think that's very telling.
That trail hunter is going to be well over $60,000 bucks plus high interest rate for most people buying it because half the people want the latest shit!
Markups to 85k plus. With tax and interest puts you over 100k.
No way it's 100k for a Trailhunter
Zr2 bison will be the same
@@ryanb8736I hear that
Guessing closer to 70k at 7% with A1 credit 🤦 think I'll keep my TRD Sport 4x4👍
All them wires on top of engine on tacoma!🤯
the ZR2 is an incredible truck.
Im a little surprised that, 2 dudes from Texas are wearing shorts & tenni runners
In this Texas heat, only dime store cowboys wear boots. 🤠