PoliticsJOE reacts to the Budget and PMQs
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- čas přidán 5. 03. 2024
- A bad day in Westminster today if you were Jeremy Hunt's speechwriter. A big day for all of us in the PolJoe cave.
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Lot less rudder chat when Ed's not here, not sure how to feel about it
If you want a really brilliant spokesperson for the independent music venue scene (across the UK, not just London), I’d highly recommend Mark Davyd from Music Venue Trust. He would be gold on this podcast 👌🏼 we really need more of the media talking about the music venues closing up and down the country 🙏🏼
Me: I’m 40 and broke
Multimillionaire Jeremy hunt: have 20p
And they took that out of 30p Lee's budget. He's 10p Lee now.
Aha so accurate.
@@MasterDeroy he’s broke now I hear
Oh no, someone give him 20p
Oli cold launching a new fade
hard approve
The reason burglaries are down is because so many more people work from home now than they did a couple years ago - it has nothing to do with policing. Such a joke of a party.
The best solution to the tangent/politics balance is to give Oli a spray bottle so he can put Ed back in his place when he steps out of line. Then we give Ava a spray bottle for when Oli joins him.
I got up at 06:00 so that I could drive to school & arrive at 07:30 this morning, I left school at 19:15 this evening. I'm currently (at 20:54) still working. I WISH I could go for a run...
Day in day out, same.... Also, summer holidays are spent creating resources because our school can't afford textbooks.
'Do you need a penis joke?', I love Ava's sass.
"he bites the lip" bro 😭
If you live in Devon and Cornwall and are actually local, then you would be bloody lucky to rent a house let alone own one, actual local poverty for people in Plymouth through to Cornwall is comparable and in some parts worse than Manchester, Liverpool etc. Far from being wealthy, we have an immense amount of poverty. We do have a lot of wealthy people who own second homes but arent actual locals. UK national average of a take home pay of 40k a year Plymouth and Cornwall average out at 31.6 and 31.3 k average per year, infact compare that to Liverpool’s average of £36 k, or Manchester’s Bury of 32.6 K and you ll see that here in the South West far from being this place of super wealthy locals, we arent we just happen to have a bunch of wealthy second property owners feeding into the dire housing crisis.
Milton Keynes does have defining planning characteristics: more green space per person than other UK cities, and an actually functioning road network. The problem with the new build proposals is that they're going to cram more people into high density housing, reduce public green space, and change the new areas' road networks into the gridlock mess other UK cities experience.
The housing absolutely needs building, but stick to the things which the original planners identified as metropolitan issues in UK cities and improved on.
''its like the sixth forum'' yeah and as someone who used to be the tech guy for a the student newspaper and radio listening to young, casural but infomative and somtimes thought-provoking journalisum is like coming home, keep it up all
The tangents our the best bit literally make me crack up everytime 😂
i often feel like it's late down the local and everyone's talking shit and I can't even hear what they're saying !
Just to say, it's not just millionaire busibodies who are kept awake by very noisy pubs, clubs etc in central London. You possibly haven't noticed but there are council blocks with residents from all economic groups, some elderly, some large families with young children. A night tsar is doing the job would be welcome.
Hunt's burglary numbers are also presumably averaged across the government and so also onclide the cpvid dip when burglaroes went down because everyone was in
How can they say Milton Keynes needs preserving when it was built around and over the top of Bletchley Park ? I would say the time for preservation has long passed !!
What are you even talking about?
@@AlexHamilton86 I will assume I might be wrong, but is the old Bletchley Park codebreaking site not in Milton Keynes ?
@@EamonCoyle Bletchley Park is near Milton Keynes, that doesn't add much clarity to your comment though. Presumably you have something against Bletchley Park, what or why remains a mystery.
@@tharoz6406 The opposite in-fact, what I was saying is there was no thought for preservation of Bletchley when they built Milton Keynes therefore why care about preserving Milton Keynes given it has little historical importance to the UK. Sorry if my comment wasn't clear but I was point out that Bletchley Park should have previously been looked after better !!
@@EamonCoyle It is, but it's not been "built over", it has been preserved, and is all there as a museum open to the public
No help for people with disabilities! No help with energy costs, cost of living help etc. Scope research shows people with chronic illness and disability pay over £900 more a month than everyone else due their equipment, charging, medical etc needs. Where is a Disabilities Minister?! It's cruel and shameful completely ignoring a large part of the population, young and old.
I'm 40. Pack of Ciggies & 4 beers was about £9 when I was a teenager, and I was on £5.25ph at McDonald's.
Let that sink in.
Brilliant. Educated. Witty. Irreverent. Astute. Bang on, folks. Good job.
Wonder if there's a correlation between sans Ed and being productive.
Love the Starmer impression!
Vapes are great to use to stop smoking - but I'd be curious to see what percentage of vape usage actually is as a tobacco replacement. Anecdotally, perhaps not a lot.
We ABSOLUTELY should be dissuading people from vaping recreationally. Just like we didn't understand the impact smoking has when that was commercialised, we don't fully understand the affect vaping has. It is pretty much guaranteed to be better for you than smoking, but numerous studies being released all the time are highlighting lung damage and heart damage being potentially major issues.
If you want to take a more libertarian approach then fine, but if you're also in favour of tobacco/alcohol regulation, this makes perfect sense. It's not as bad, but it's a drug that likely causes harm.
Nicotine is added to 98 % of vapes specifically to make it addictive. Let that sink in.
Been burgled twice in the last year, still yet to see a police officer since reporting it
I use to be in the police, they give the impression it's a difficult job ,it was money for old rope
I am soooo with you re ‘Soho summer’ - why on earth did they not keep any outside capacity? And Oli is confirmed 6Music guy? You’re sooo my people…😍
Because wahhh wahhh I need to be able to drive everywhere wahhhhh literally motorists will cry and cry at the slightest hint of making a residential area with public meeting places even slightly more pleasant to exist in if it means they have to slow down slightly or god forbid go a different way
I'd argue all of Berwick Street, Dean Street, Greek Street and Old Compton should be pedestrian permanently, it was bloody glorious! Make it a bigger version of St Christopher's Place with music, tables and chairs etc.
@@diabl2masterI'm a Londoner that's moved to the sticks (zone 6) and the car dependency is insane. My other half's family can't believe I'm willing to walk the 15 minutes to the shops instead of the 5 minute drive followed by 10 minutes looking for parking 😂 unless you need it for work sod owning a car in greater London
you can still stream it here even if audio only :)
Hurray tax cuts, but oh no the country is in a downward spiral. Things are getting worse (boo), but at least the previous forecasts were inaccurate! (yaaay...?)
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We’d all save much more money if they sorted the housing situation 😭
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I think expect it to be called by end of May and held mid July, its the most logical time within the constraints of the January cut-off. You consider, that is the time of year when people are off work and on holiday possibly abroad and those are more likely to vote Labour and along with that the weather at home is normally good which plays on the psychology of people like it or not especially older people in terms of getting them out of the house to mark the ballot. If they have thought about it and are not simply waiting for good news July seems most sensible to me !!
But in July the MPs will have to be recalled from thier holidays to get elected.
Imagine that. They can't go on one of their many holidays. The horror...
When are we getting a PolJoe mock PMQs like a model UN. Ed would love it
A great, straight to the point episode! ❤
I think this budget is to salt the earth for labour, and to be able to claim for 4 years that they were taxcutters in government..... I dunno why they have a reputation for good economics
Never apologise for the tangents
No-one wants supposed tax cuts and further defunding of the NHS, etc!!! 🤬
Need to remove the branded plastic bottles of water - get a fancy JOE branded jug of tap water!
Good review of the budget, thank you for this presentation
25:10 Thank you! Over and over I hear or read 'they just need to stop buying x or doing y and they'll be fine', IE the infamous avocado toast. Maybe I'm just crazy, but I think people should be able to treat themselves. If someone working full-time can't afford a little joy in life like a takeaway, then something's gone wrong. Misery shouldn't be the default.
I thought I was the only one who got really excited on budget day 😂
I believe the e juice volume restriction was because there were accidental deaths from consuming it. Pretty toxic to drink concentrated nicotine. I remember there were bottles of 32mg nicotine content. Genuinely made one feel sick to smoke.
Bizarre thing about London though is that we do love a meal out and a drink out still...trying to get an impromptu dinner is so hard to book in some areas! And these places are popular/full tables. Definitely a mixed message that you know MPs who drink in a local in Westminster will suddenly think well everyone here is spending so everything must be fine!
If the economy were a motor car, it would be a rusty old Jaguar Sovereign being driven with no MOT or insurance.
No, it wouldn't be as flash as that.
Go on as many tangents as you both want love them all.
I’m here for the tangents.
I am with the butcher the tangents is your souls - don't change i do like the new clapping though
Re vapes, it's technically illegal to buy liquid nicotine concentrate in bulk unless you're a business. So the common standard of making your own is to pose as a business to buy bulk nicotine to mix with flavouring and propylene glycol. Its very easy and costs about a hundredth of the shite you buy in the shop.
Saying "Dune is like Star Wars" is so offensive omg
God, they flirt with eachother HARD 🤣
The London tax on living is crazy, in Worcester you can get a sub-£3 pint in a lot of battle cruisers. The whole budget is salting the earth by implementing Labour policies they can get away with and planning for a next budget they won't get to implement.
Please get Ava some help, she can't be left alone, she goes wonky!
I LIVE for the tangents
i enjoyed this a lot good politics content
15:30 fleetwood mac did a similer thing. you can cut the air with a knife!
Ollie's new fade / beard trim looking peng
Reducing capital gains on property is dumb, just like removong stamp duty for everyone.
The winners are landlord/trusts/businesses with portfolios of property.
Us the suckers will be paying more tax in our wages, to subsidise these portfolio holders profits.
It seems that when there’s only 2 of you, we get a more professional and political delivery. However, i do still love the rudder jokes 😂❤
Dolmades!
I have to admit that this episode had a far better banter-politics ratio. It’s a lovely step to see
love podcast hate nons it's the politics Jo podcast ladies and gentlemen
They give with the one hand and Gove on the other.
sick starmer impression
tories: puttin' the N into cuts
I need Oli, unfortunately.
i wanna watch the andy burnham one on youtube even if its just audio! maybe just me though haha
Vapes up to £3 per 10ml on the liquid duty
When oli seid "sometimes you can find pints for a fiver" prety much everywhere in the north has pints under £5 londen prices are unbelievable.
With regards rape conviction rates, I was a juror on a rape trial a few years ago. I don't know if the rules about giving details about discussions in the jury room extend beyond the conclusion of the trial so I'm deliberately being vague: was at least 1 juror who said he's guilty and at least 1 who said she's lying. In my opinion the prosecution didn't make the case of his guilt, and I was not alone in that view. The case was settled on a majority verdict of 10-2 or greater that he was not guilty. There were at least 3 female jurors. In my very limited experience the standard of evidence and the case as a whole needs to improve drastically.
Where was the wealth tax?!
There wasn't one because there is 1 huge floor in that type of tax.
@@user-hu1yi8ox9z you’re chatting rubbish
Housing 1-mil per year even if it was possible and a number of this scale could be put anywhere, this would not lower house prices.
Young peoples issues - graduate affordability has been the same for 25-30 years
Feel like it should be mentioned that some teachers are in and out of school in the summer alot bc of exams and enrolling students etc...
Replace the Night Czar with Night Kerensky, then replace him with Night Lenin
She should read Gary Stevenson new book.
Governments not being able to borrow, and Central banks not being able to create money in an emergency would be a bad thing. Assets being sold at the same time couldn't happen because there wouldn't be anyone to buy them.
Burglaries down? Not in my area, we are in a poor area in the North East and everyone's struggling, but yet they buy fireworks at new-year etc.
The economy is stagnant the coffers are empty the UK credit cards nearly full and they cut taxes to there's less to spend.
On the other side the raises evens the cuts out so is any normal (not rich citizen) any better off?
Lol threadbare, poor old number 11, quilted silk toilet paper and gold leaf muesli
this is a little thing but could you maybe add subtitles for when the crew talks? i'd love to hear what they have to say and they're not mic'd up :)
The reason for the 10ml thing was because of Europe, and you could only sell E juice with nicotine in 10ml amounts. What happened is that you would buy 100ml of juice, with no nicotine in it, then buy 2 x 10ml of nicotine shot to mixing with your juice.
So now we are at the point of a £1 tax on 10ml of vape juice that does not contain nicotine, just balance them out with cigarettes, that contian nicotine. So your are getting taxed for not having nicotine. Also they are taxing the nicotine shots as well @ £3 for a 10ml shot, so something that would cost you £12, is now going to cost you £28, and that is before VAT.
Oh god I had an ex who made their own vape juice. I just had a nauseating cotton candy flashback
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Can we please talk about Donelan....??
Did you discuss the reduction in capital gains tax of 4%?
It's definitely the right decision.
Why concentrate on London Night Tsar, Sacha Lord anyone?
Poor London
She is right, Pubs need more surport.
She's right about squat. A parrot through and through
@@portman8909 If pubs are doing so well as you claim, then why are they shutting all the time.
London, london, london. move on.
Bring back the piatser, starmers got to deliver on something, the next 10 years is gonna get interesting
5p saving on fuel……that’s savings gone in 2 trips to train station…..coz yes….I live in the rurals and it’s 2 hours to the train station…..yes….or the bus…..need a suitcase for that…..
The total amount saved is very big. Because its been frozen and cut since 2011.
Ed is great but I preferred the analysis between Ava and Oli. It was great.
are they flirting?
This podcast is rudderless without Ed.
Is it true Ava is going to be the new Jo Marney?
Love you guys but your description of the FHL tax regime was way off. Essentially the abolition should encourage landlords to not turn private rented stock into short-term lets (airBNB), rather than ban second homes.. although that would be nice lol
Can you guys link me with your dealer
Alcohol consumption costs the NHS 3.8billion and the UK as such 21 billion. There is such profits in the addiction industry! Can we really afford it now? More dying from alcohol than Covid!
its a good thing that people are priced out of causing a fuck horrible problem for everyone and themselves
On fiscal drag, you give people far too much credit. In the engineering office I work in, two Tory voting colleagues said of the 2p off NI, "oh great, 2p. What am I supposed to do with that". I had to explain it meant 2p in £ so 2% = £450. People don't understand
clintons
Isn't foodism just another aspect of consume-or-die NeroLiberalism? 😖🤔(Green Fire UK) 🌈🦉
PS: The whole of Central London should be a NO Go Zone for private vehicles!!! ⛔
Sorry Oli ,youre beautiful too ❤️😳!
You misunderstood what their issue with Angela Rayner having lived in a council house was .. I think it was specifically because she was on the electoral register at another property or something. Apparently its illegal to be voting from a property you're not registered at, but in all honesty I've done the same after moving and you just don't get round to filling the form out
Look up the ex 12 bar on denmark Street its a tragic story of a one in a century venue it hot squatted, it was siiiick
vape juice isn't difficult to make.
V similar to what you'd want to use in a fog machine for better fog, and you get to not have the nicotine...
maybe i should start just making it for people... i can't stand smoking, but for the prices...
... you could even use a fog machine to mass vape a room - but the logical question to add when discussing vaping is: wtf would anyone want to smell like bubblegum? You look at the £ people spend on hygiene and deodorant/ perfume, and it sortta seems backwards to then spoil it by wanting to smell like a raspberry whipple.
Unless you are already a nicotine addict - why would you want to? It's not 'cool'. It's no longer fed to the masses as being a part of sexual rituals in the way that smoking after an orgasm once was (unfortunately)...
And if you are already a nicotine addict... well, quit. Use vaping to help you if you need to. Take you a couple of months.
In the 21st century, the idea that anyone is still addicted to smoking is ludicrous.
Our culture becomes ever more focused on heealth and individuality, and yet we still allow mass religion and smoking to be a part of the social discourse sans social stigma.... bonkers.
Which leaves the argument for vapes as an industry being... what?
Has to be tax income. because, otherwise it's just bloody stupidity.
I'm happy to be enlightened if i'm missing something here, but it genuinely seems to me that the only reason teens vape is to rebel, and beyond that people are doing it purely because monkey see. And if that's the case, where's the harm in simply out lawing it entirely.
Utterly destructive industry from an environmental p.o.v. with so limited social benefits that I fail to see them....
Oh, and the tories always do this whenever Labour have popular ideas.
Its standard tactic, and they always get away with it.
Heck, it was basically the only policy the George Osborne had besides lying through his teeth, but even back in the 90's it was the same. Take Labour ideas, twist them to serve the rich and hope no1 notices.
I've been making the stuff for over a year now; it's a little more nuanced than that. 😉😁
@@geordievillan LOL! Sanctimonious and uninformed much? 🙄
@@Loneman_OG Literally stated already I'm happy to be educated as to the benefits of vping... difficult to figure you're tryingto imply i'm uninformed about anything else here...
Perhaps you could try a more detailed response?
@@geordievillan _"I'm happy to be educated..."_
Yet you feel you're already educated enough to lecture on the cons of nicotine? You're using the trope of _"what I say is correct, *but correct me if I'm wrong"* and putting the onus on the other party to do your homework for you.
_"if you are already a nicotine addict... well, quit"_ See, sanctimonious. Ever heard of freedom of choice? Why should anyone who chooses to use nicotine quit? It's akin to asking caffeine users to quit. There are as many legitimate reasons for using nicotine as there are for caffeine, so why not go after coffee/tea drinkers?
Perhaps educate yourself before unleashing such diatribes in the future?
While i liked this summary, the notion that teachers can’t exercise because of this imaginary 2 hour round trip they do to work everyday is a bit of a stretch
I ooed at the same time as Oli when Ava was talking about Soho. Honestly Amy, give me your job you utter waste of hot air.
It always sounds like you're saying 'love podcasts, hate nonces.' I agree with the sentiment but it does seem like an odd thing to raise.
Literally is what they say
@@CustardCream515 😆😆 I thought I was mis hearing 'nonsense'
Straight up Oli, you need a better haircut and wardrobe if you intend to keep podding with Ava. I mean, great work, AND...
Stop all the ads for the love of god