The Pierre-Luc Dubois Situation Has OFFICIALLY Hit Rock Bottom…
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With the Los Angeles Kings vs Edmonton Oilers series ending early in 5 games, the LA Kings future is looking muddy as they start to make BIG decisions about their future this offseason...
One name that once again brought up was Pierre-Luc Dubois, who has a pitiful playoff series vs Edmonton, accounting for just 1 goal and 20 penalty minutes in 5 games.
Now the latest NHL news is coming out about Dubois' Kings future, and for the potential of not just a trade, but a full blown BUYOUT for Pierre-Luc Dubois... Let's talk about it.
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QOTD: If YOU were the Los Angeles Kings folks, what would YOU do with Dubois? Would you trade him, buy him out, or try to make it work? Let me know!
Trade him to Utah. Seriously.
Signing PLD, basically sight-unseen, to a long term contract with his off-ice history at the time was an absolute braindead move by LA.
L.A. hired Marc Bergevin as a "special" advisor. Good judgement isn't their forte...
Yeah thats a Marc's friend... Bergevin was dreaming of PLD for years when he was Mtl gm...
Not only that but they gave so much for Dubois, 3 players and a second round pick. They got ripped off hard 😂😂😂
I can't believe LA seriously did that trade
LA kings fan here... just fire rob blake, always making bad trades. and for dubois just buy him out
Feels like Blake's time should be coming to and end, just mediocre year after mediocre year
Hopefully for your sake, Marc Bergevin doesn’t take his job.
Looks like torts was right again
Being a talented player and not putting in the effort is just sad
Blake has done everything to seal his fate as the most hated king of all time. Between getting rid of JQ and dubois I really can't see his popularity getting any lower. Even if we buy him out, there's going to be a handcuff there which is just ridiculous. At this point LA just needs to determine if we're going to retool or rebuild.
Rebuild I think, aging roster and some young guys who look good that should be given more ice time
@@rhh3828 something very interesting is that we have a lot of open cap space next year. We're going to be losing a lot of contracts unfortunately, but that does have room for growth. Not to mention kopitar goes down from 10 to 7 mil. There is no player sign for goalie, and we only have I believe seven forwards accounted for. This is going to be a very interesting off season for my Kings.
A rebuild? Haven't you gone through a rebuild just couple years ago?
@@betahumanx Not really. Not in the traditional sense. Brown just retired recently, Quick was our goalie up until last year. Kopitar is still are number one center and DD is still a number one defenseman. We've added around but I wouldn't say a full-blown rebuild.
@@sonicsubjunkie Fair enough
Dubois is like Alexander Daigle back in the 90s. Tons of talent, zero heart or interest in hockey. Kings should limit their damage, buy Dubois out and save 40 millions. Then watch Dubois beg Mtl for a job at minimum salary...
Still worth 5 to 6 million a year, even after a buyout ...on potential alone.
@@stephenphillips6245 you need a buyer for him to be worth that much. He has zero leverage left. He'll get a 1 year deal for sure but it won't be for much. btw he's almost 26, he has reached his full potential. What you see is what you get.
MTL will offer him 5M for 1 year, just to see how it goes
Screw that!!!Dubois is poison!He just can't be happy anywhere,anytime.We do no want him to negatively influence our young guys.Let him go play in the KHL or something...
for a 16 year buyout penalty? yeah no shot, he isnt going anywhere till 2030
With Dubois, Huberdeau, Lafreniere and Drouin (last 2, had a descent year, though)… The latest high profile players from my corner of the world, tend to be disappointing more often than not. Bummer.
Agreed about Lafreniere. He is starting to look pretty good and seems like he’s finally turning a corner.
@@lordaathrasAgreed.
As a Montreal fan I still catch myself daydreaming having the big talented local kid playing in our top 6. I convince myself that Marty St-Louis can get into his head and work a miracle But then I wake up from this dream and realize that there's such a high risk that it could turn out to be a nightmare beyond nightmares. It could destroy our rebuild.
Habs fan be like " we need more quebecois in the team "
PLD and Huberdeau being the 2 worst contract in the entire NHL
Francophone habs fan you mean
@@vithursan.bexactly! Habs fan all my life. I don’t care if every player on the ice speaks Swahili. As long as they produce. French Habs fans seem to think a mediocre French player with a CH on the chest magically turns into Guy Lafleur!😂
That's mostly media and vocal minority. Most fans in Québec just want the best for the team.
@@jhenz1926no we don't lol Stupid media spreading dumb narratives.
@@bizkitsamfair enough. It wasn’t fair of me to go on as if the French media speaks for actual fans. It’s such lazy reporting…. Oh look a French guy is available that doesn’t fit the system, culture or anything they are trying to build and accomplish. MTL should sell the house to get him because it will make our interviews easier.😂
Gm should 100% be fired, blew this trade, and gave that extension. And b4 that ita lookin like the fiala trade they gave the wild calder finalist brock faber and what looks like a good pick of liam ohgren.
The worst part of the PLD deal was the impact on goaltending. Blake moved Quick and Petersen out saving 10.5 mil. He then signed PLD for 8.5 mil. Since Blake was now up against the salary cap, it left him only 2.5 mil for the goaltenders. Common sense tells you that you can't go from 10.5 to 2.5 and expect the goaltending to be better. Next year, the Kings have 14 players going UFA or RFA, but their combined cap hit is only 19 mil. The Kings have to figure out how to fill 14 slots, including both goalies, for 19-21 mil. They won't be able to afford to resign Roy or Arvidsson unless they take the same deals they currently have. Byfield is also due for a substantial raise from his current 875k entry deal. Stand by Kings fans, we are going to be fielding an AHL team next season.
I've been saying this on all the Kings boards! Doesn't matter if they fire Flake and get a new GM, the situation is so bad that nothing will make a difference! Need that Doughboy contract of $11 mil a year to expire along with the the 2 more years of Krapitar at $7 mil a year just to get started! Along with the failed draft picks which were supposed to be so great...they're in for another decade of irrelevance!
Buyout is the easiest choice, the cheapest, the obvious. So of course they won't do it.
Signing him for 8 years was one of the biggest issues considering his history.
As a flames fan, I’m happy there’s a worse contract than Huberdeaus.
It’s debatable. Huberdeau only had 12 more points, but four fewer goals and a -29 compared to PLD’s -9 while costing $2M more on AAV as a winger and an older player with the same term. LA also has the option to buy PLD out and save 2/3 of his remaining salary, but Flames can’t do the same with Huberdeau.
It's not worse, and I'm not just saying that because Huby's deal is richer
PLD is who everyone thought he was (Besides Rob Blake).
The only thing i am not laughing my a** off about in this situation is that this crybaby player got so much more money than he is worth for a long time by his horrible behaviour on 3 teams. Players need to be respected. Yes. but he has no respect for his teams amd fanbases screwing everyone over every time and playing how he did on several occasions is just annoying. I‘m not even a fan of any of the involved teams
it was a universally known fact that the Kings got fleeced in the trade with Winnipeg. The Kings paid $8.5 million to get 40 points in 82 games!
Now, as a Habs fan, I beg team management. Puh-LEEEZE, do not touch this overpriced baggage!
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Everyone has been saying how disappointing he is playing for his skill level for the past 3 years. Maybe he's not that skilled?
That's what I think, all this talk of he's so skilled, really, where has he shown that? Most goals he's ever scored in a season was 28! How's that make him skilled?
Buyout is pretty much the sole option.
To get rid of him would cost LA mutiple firsts. Keeping him would be insanity if you can buy him out at 1/3 value.
Buy him out, watch him go to a rebuilding team and either flourish or flounder once again. Could see him going to either Chicago, Pittsburgh or Calgary.
Should be a STAIN on BLAKE !!! It's not like it was a big SURPRISE !!! FIRE BLAKE !!!
As an Oilers fan, I approve of the Kings trade and signing.
There is ZERO chance that he gets bought out. Less than zero.
Sorry but BLD is one of the most overrated players I’ve ever seen. He’s never done a single thing to garner a contract like what he has. Such a piss poor attitude and lack of dedication. Dude doesn’t look like he cares or tries. Is he talented when he does try? Sure but even then he’s not worth that much. If I’m another squad I wouldn’t take him even if his salary was half that. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was out of the league earlier than he should be because of the off ice issues
Oiler fan here. Don't think I heard his name once mentioned by the broadcasters. Dude was totally invisible during the series. Perhaps a sports hernia?
Just shooting an idea here instead of a buyout...
To MTL :
Dubois (8.5M x 7y)
To LAK:
Gallagher (6.5Mx3y)
Anderson (5.5Mx3y)
LA gets a higher cap hit but for way less term + its 2 players Bergevin liked
MTL gets a hometown younger player with longer term. Cap hit is individually bigger but they get more flexibility over the next years.
Tradin problems for problems. However Gallagher attitude is way better than PPD it seems.
The assets the gave up and the contract they gave PLD was one of those so bad it sets the franchise back for years. Similar to Benning making that trade for OEL for the Canucks a few years ago
They are ABSOLUTELY gonna buy him out at 1/3. They have to. If they don't do it now PLD will have a full NMC and if he has an even worse season they are beyond screwed.
its so funny lookihg back the Kings just giving up Vilardi and Iafallo for Dubois and then looking st the contracts its so bad fireable imo
Also gave up Kupari and high 2nd round pick.
It’s so funny seeing Ottawa fans thinking they were gonna be good, but they were terrible once again! How is that Korpisalo contract going for you guys so far? lol
@@aidanlastname0187 try not to be too salty like Dubois, Ihear he's on 1 of the best deals in the league
Funny the contact is bad but all the players you mentioned stank as well. Vilardi missed more than half the season 😂
We know you are salty sens fan all have horrendous take’s comparing the kings to the sens. 😂😂😂 same guy that said you had more depth than the kings yet you haven’t made the playoffs in like 10 years
@@eliaminator2313 I’m not even a Kings fan
I can’t stand watching Dublah. Playoff elimination game and he spent the entire third period literally gliding around. I hardly say him take a single proper stride. I was cheering for Edmonton that series and it still made me mad FOR Kings fans watching him lol. He’s the only person in the league giving Huberdeau a run for his money for worst contract in the league.
Given his past production, I'm not sure how he secured that contract, props to his agent, I guess.
Blake has to go. Not just the PLD deal, but he has failed to secure an "A" level goaltender for the past four seasons.
Grav do you remember me? I was one of your first 100 subscribers.
blake needs to go holy. He has been sinking this team season by season.
How Rob Blake still has a job is quite shocking ik they've come up against a strong Oilers team in round 1 every year and lost but that's not the issue for me. The 1 thing the Kings were supposed to have was an extremely bright future but now with most of their "top" prospects that were highly toughted 2-3 years ago not panning out the pipeline is getting dry and don't seem to be getting developed very well plus some questionable decisions with contracts and heading into this season with thise goalies idk surprised he still is employed by the Kings
I want to say give PLD’s production this year a write-off, but year after year after year the guy just doesn’t have the heart to play those games when the going gets tough. It’s too bad because if he had the will, he would be such a dominant player. What’s even more frustrating is that he’s on an LA team with arguably one of the best defensive-minded forward in Kopitar that I would hope it would have sparked PLD to play a similar style to Kopitar’s and even Danault’s game. Very disappointing.
He was not so bad in Winnipeg, he looked unengaged, L.A. thought the change in scenery would do him good and resurrect him. Neh. I think Montreal knew all about PLD all along.
Blake's the same guy that gave Cal Peterson number 1 goalie money, and he couldn't even beat out Jonathan Quick.
PLD is bust as fuck.
Buyout Dubois, and Signed Toffoli and Monahan in UFA. You saved the face
With that contract I cant see any buyout. That's crazy talk. If they do I can name 20 teams that will be calling...
Oh look...Torts was right
We have a very Pittsburgh Penguins-like scenario here. While we can compete, there's really no moving back to contender status with this core and our lack of cap space. Kopitar and Doughty still have gas left in the tank and likely wouldn't want anything to do with a rebuild, and if they get traded the fans would call for Rob Blake's head, so do we keep compromising the future for first round exits until they retire? Even a retool might be difficult with how much money is being invested in Fiala, Danault, Kempe, Doughty, Kopitar, Dubois and soon Byfield. I really wish we would have been patient the first time. It was clear that the goal was to exit the rebuild ASAP when Blake started spending in 2021 as soon as cap space became available and the team wasn't slow and ancient anymore. Maybe if we stayed the course for a few more years we would have had more young talent and our players from the mostly disappointing prospect pool that was once seen as the best in the league might have been able to see some real NHL ice time instead of being stuck in the AHL having their development ruined. We'd be coming out of the rebuild with much more flexibility and a sustainable, promising team that Kopi and Doughty could have still been a part of.
I'm a Kings fan and would have no problem seeing both of them go and the Kings getting $18 million in salary back! No one's taking Doughboy's $11 million a year contract for another 3 years with him turning 37 before it's over!
I'm so glad my Habs never picked him up, I just don't get why he can't put the effort in.
I was so scared, I thought for sure they pick them up just for being French
@@chrislaverick6413 I kinds thought they might get him at first.... but when I saw the asking price I personally "noped" right out of that.
Holy shit that would be an expensive buyout
I swear the writing was on the wall with PLD from the day he was drafted 😂. Dude is a selfish cancer player, as a habs fan we definitely dodged a bullet
Thats what u get when u rush your rebuild.. they should have been way more patient with recouping draftpicks/drafting high.. Blakes inpatience will hunt them for a while
"Over the next little bit"
You mean 14 years?
I was intrigued 2 offseasons ago for the rangers to trade for him, thank god we signed troch
The Habs dodged a bullet. Dubois is a bad apple. I am glad they didn't get him. He would have set back the team a few years with his ridiculous contract.
PLD is a quitter.
L.A. and Winterpeg were both out in the first round this year, weather the PLD trade happened or not
Who cares at least Winnipeg won the trade
Winter is awesome, if you are trying to roast them with that it isn't working lol
That's the unknown, maybe the Kings finish in a different spot if they had those OG players all year and not POS! Maybe they win the Pacific, you'll never know but they would have a been better than they ended up being!
It's funny how people laughed at Lou for signing Horvat for similar money on the Isle and Bo had a resume to back it up. Bo is going to earn his money on Long Island but I doubt PLD will ever get past his 60/season in LA or anywhere else. Let's not even talk about what it cost their respective teams.
You know what Scotty Bowman did to Sergei Fedorov a few times? He made him play Left Defense for several games.
Hitchcock did the same with him in Columbus sometimes, but in both cases it was because his solid two-way game made it completely viable
First off Blake goes. Worst trade-signing in Kings history. I get the reasoning of the Quick trade if Blake was simply going by his numbers. Problem is Quick is more beloved by the fans in LA than 99 himself. PLD cannot be traded now even if he lifted his no trade clause to do it. Nobody wants this contract. As I see this, only two possibilities are available now. 1) Buyout and 2) Give him ice time, take the 1-3-1 out and hope he finds his grove. I go for the 2 option here. It's not PLD's fault this happened, that rests solely on Blake's shoulders. The 1-3-1 is one hard system to learn ESPECIALLY on a new team where no chemistry has been created yet. Oh and not to mention the UFA problem as of right now with the Kings. Arvidson and Roy are MUST keeps and no offers all season = 2 pissed off players going to free agency. Blake is to the Kings as the Ice burg was to the Titanic.
Send him to AHL
It's obvious guys like Dubois and Huberdeau sign these once in a life time deals offered to them by sucker dumb GMs willing to give it to them. These guys can't stand the team they're playing for, but will gladly take the money and if it doesn't work out they couldn't care less they'll gladly take the buy out and sign with a team they actually want to play for for a lot less money because they've already got top up income coming in from the buy out. It's an obvious strategic formula constructed by their agent and stupid GMs keep falling for it hook, line and sinker. That's precisely why Blake will be fired this summer if not sooner. Holland did the same thing with Campbell. The difference between Holland and Blake is that Holland somehow magically pulled a bunch of fucking rabbits out of the hat and made a legit Stanley Cup contending team. Which further illustrates the point that there are dumb GMs and then there are super dumb GMs. Blake falls in the category of super dumb. Not exactly a flattering description to have on your franchise business card.
I wouldn't rush to buy him out just yet, I would give him another season or 2 max as he could very well have a bounce back year., but if there's no sign of improvement, his time in L.A. his time should be over, unless there is something to suggest that he's been too much of a party animal off the ice, then terminate his buy out his contract much sooner. I remember when the Predators had bought out Matt Duchene and he has looked like top 6 forward in Dallas on that bargain contract, unlike his former teammate Ryan Johansen.
Columbus sends our condolences... PL'Diva is the worst!!!
Send him to the ahl
Take note Habs fans who were so hyped on getting this guy.
Do the Ulmark trade now that schools out for summer.
Problem is Jets also did NOTHING in the post season.
His one playoff goal was a Nurse own goal as well he didn’t even actually score or even make a play for that goal
The GM has gave up on the best player or let them go it sad
You can't buyout a contract after just one year, it will ruin your salary cap for the next ten year wtf you talking about. It's either a trade or get stuck with him.
It's a 1.1 mil dead cap hit for 14 seasons if done before June 24th...when he turns 26..which would be more costly at a 3 mil dead hit for 14 seasons.
If LA were to buy PLD out, this year, after the Stanley cup play is over, is the only time to do it bwcause of his age. Yes, payments would go for a long time, but they would save a fortune.
Dubois is good as gone. He has had so many chances.
Money doesn’t score goals, he earned what he makes.
Very honest assessment of Dubois and kings.
Wouldn’t want him on my team. How many teams does he need to go through till he’s playing in the khl
PLD is staying. If Kings buy him out, they're on the hook till 2038! Their only hope is he gets better.
Still the best out there Nathan! Lots of love from me and baby Nova!!
One of the games the announcers kept calling him "pielle" idk if that's some nickname I was so confused figured was just unprepared national broadcasters new to calling the team
Supposedly after moving to LA he told the media he wanted to go by "PL Dubois" instead of his given name "Pierre-Luc Dubois"
@@chrismdb5686 oh PL duh...I guess I didn't figure that one out. But never heard him called that while in cbus. New nickname same old dubius
@@ShawwnParrr He's in LA now so now he needs a new fancy nickname. Can't live in a big American city and go by a French name apparently
He had more points as a rookie
Is it really even plausible to do a 14 years buyout I can't see Rob Blake sending this proposition to the owner and somehow not getting fired
The fact they haven't fired him already just shows you they won't!
Blake must go👋
He has hurt this organization bigtime,for the foreseeable future
You keep him a couple years and PRAY he bounces back. Going nuclear and buying him out RIGHT NOW would be a DiPietro nightmare. Having cap against them for 10+ years is a good idea???? C'mon man.
They have to give a second chance. It's just the right thing to do. It'll be up to him to prove himself, once and for all.
He was lazy on Winnipeg though.. you said he was consistent but a player isn't just a elite prospects stat sheet.
Gm are stupid be like giving out 8 yrs should be like Detroit gm give out 2 yrs or 1 yr make even there contract like old school ,that way they work harder get rid of no move clause
0% chance they use a buyout on him this year. No way they pay for 14 years on the salary cap
The should. They won't. So you want 7 years of garbage at 100% and 8.5 mil instead of 14 years at 33% or about 1.1 mil? This is simple.
I think they have to stick it out for one more season. Hope he pulls his head out his ass and starts working. Threaten to healthy scratch him if he doesn't put in effort becaus if they buy him out and he goes somewhere else with something to prove and performs it could make the situation look even worse
I was mind blown when LA signed him. He is awful. I don’t get it.
He was a bum in Winnipeg too, shouldn't be a surprise
I have the feeling you don't like Pierre. I don't know much about him but because of this video I took a look at his stats. It looks like he has been pretty consistent his whole career, he looks like his avg is 40 pts a year. I imagine Winnipeg figured that out and got rid of him. LA's GM must have figure new surroundings with the right people would increase his production but he just proved the Jets were accurate.
As far as you jumping on his penalties I don't think you looked too deeply into it. Over the last 4 decades I've noticed that the guy given the task of shadowing the star of the opposition if he isn't that good at it he gets a lot of penalties. His penalties appear to be holding or whatever on McDavid or Draisaitl and fighting with Bouchard. Not sure, isn't that the Oilers 3 of 4 stars that they depend on? His big penalty production was one game in which they gave him the extra 2 and a misconduct in a shoving match involving 4 players. Looking at the scoring the Oilers did in that series I think the only thing they discussed about Dubois was "don't worry about him, he can't score." If they buy him out I hope the Leafs grab him for their 4th line, but not for the reason LA got him for, hoping he gets them past the Oilers like you suggested.
Maybe send him to the AHL?
Trading him to a bottom team for a pack of peanuts is an option, then use the cap space to re-sign byfield, spence, arvidson
What the hell is work ethic gonna do for you when you’re playing on the third line with rookies?
He gets paid like a top six center but used as a plumber!
Blame the effing coach for foods sake, they used him wrong all season. Stop and think for a bit, 40 points is about right for the role he was playing.
You guys don’t even follow the team
Definitely management and coaching has some of the blame. Not well used and coach didn't seem to know how to utilize him and get the best out of his forward. He's definitely overpaid by about 1.5 million, but at 7 million, playing either on wing or as a second line center, he should be able to have an impact. He's definitely not an elite player, but coach should be able to get more out of his players.
If you had the Kings as cup favorites then you're as terrible as the Darren Dregers of the hockey world LOL
Man, this is a bad situation. Only paying a third of his salary may be worth it.
It's crazy how much this has developed ALREADY in a year man, and agreed!
Great Video, as usual, Nathan. I don't think that The LA Kings should overreact regarding the Pierre Luc Dubois situation. Let me know what you think
Dubois is going to stay. Can’t give up
This was much worse than the Drouin trade. ,thank god the Habs didn't have a french GM 👎👎👎
this brings me so much joy
I love the content but damn, this probably could have been a 10min, felt like a “cramming for word count” essay
He has played his way out of the NHL
Hilarious last summer when he was slumming with the Canadiens players. What a loser. They must have been thinking who invited you! Acting like our bud we went to war with. Get outta here. Guys out to lunch. Then there’s his hockey skills and commitment.
LA can buy him out San Jose pays him 4 mil for 2 years to prove himself and then maybe make more after
A negative differencemaker 😂
Sped run!? CANCELLED! lol jkjk
Fool me twice, shame on glue.