TF2's Strange Problem (And How To Fix It)
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2023
- I've always been disappointed by how many TF2 weapons can't be strange. Some of them, namely the reskins, are as such because of licensing issues... but what about the rest? I often hear that certain weapons don't have anything meaningful to track, but I strongly disagree. I think every weapon has a relevant metric that a strange version could count, which is what I want to go through. Let me know if you have better ideas for any of them!
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Once again a quicker video of an idea that I had floating around in my head over the past few weeks. FNAF map will be done soon. - Hry
Strange weapons in tf2 have always seemed like a reskin case to me
agreed
Reskin stranges have always been a weapon case to me
Reskin cases have always seemed like a strange weapon to me
strange cases have always seemed like a reskin weapon to me
Me me me me me me me me me me
Strange disguise kit would probably be pretty straight forward: one point for every kill or destruction while disguised
it would also be funny if it tracked how many times you died while disguised
@@lisatroiani6119I'd have the highest with only 20 hours on spy
Or how many times you disguised
I might be REALLY missing a joke here but don't you just automatically undisguise while attacking?
@@elfabrip the attack that undisguises you technically counts as “attacking while disguised”
source: the enforcer
Ive always thought a strange rocket jumper and sticky jumper would be great if they tracked the distance jumped
Killstreak jumper weapons that display your longest jump without touching the floor when????
@@d_camaraThere's several spots where you can just stick and get effectively infinite time in air
@@d_camarajumpstreak then
@@techwizsmith7963
You can also just equip the base jumper or create a custom map with a teleport that keeps you airborne.
Your point is kinda dumb.
@@redstonewarrior0152 not to mention that strange farming servers already exist
The Disciplinary action already has a "teammates whipped" stat, at least the war paint strange version does, I have one personally
You mean the a stat track one?
I have a normal strange one and it is pre-built in
Yeah, I got a painted one as a random gift (thank you person) and it came with that. I like "allies motivated" way more though, lmao
@@moronribbons5774 Personally I had demomen killed part on mine cause it fits with teammates whipped
@@fish8415 my guy, we both know EXACTLY why you put that part on the WHIP.
I feel that the gunboats having a “explosive self-damage negated” stat tracker would be a really cool thing to see
oooo yeah
Funny thing about Strange Shields: They track melee kills too, which makes it immensely frustrating if you use a Shield/Sword combo consistently and both are strange because you have a shield with like 20 more kills than your sword because some spy ran out and got bopped or you charged at an enemy sniper and accidentally killed him or something.
Disagree, I intentionally shield bash at 5+ heads (mainly because it’s funny)
why on Earth would you find that annoying?
you shield has 20 more kills than your sword because you killed 20 more people with your shield equipped.
like, actually what are you on about right now?
@@TheDoc_K
Basically, it's that discomfort you get when you notice a picture is _slightly_ crooked
Didn’t they change this though? I have way more melee kills on my demo melees than kills on my shield. Then again I have been playing for more than a decade
@@vinstaal0it used to only track shield bash kills, but they changed it to also track melee kills a while ago. Annoyed the shit out of me because it meant my strange targe, which had like 100 kills on it, lost its funny status when comparing it to my eyelander. But this was as you said, probably changed over a decade ago now.
Strange Weapons in TF2 have always been a strange case to me
Fuck yes!
More like strange weapons in tf2 have always seemed like a reskin case to me
Ah, ah! He said it! He said it!
TF2's weapon reskins are neat.
If you like a weapon so much but want to know how much you killed its nice to have stranges
One things I've always wanted for my Rocket Jumper and Gunboats is a strange that keeps track of distance traveled, similar to whatever system the achievements use to determine that for the parachute achievement. I feel like that would be even more interesting than just a base stat of how many times I rocket jumped, though having both present would be really cool
Putting both on would not only tell you how often and how far you jumped, but how far you went per jump.
That would be neat, but I somewhat agree with what was implied in the video, in that a stat like that would be better as a separate strange part applicable to any rocket launcher too
I forgot you played tf2
Yeah but the rocket jumper can't do any damage so I think it should have distabce tracjed ir something similar tracked by default like how strange weapons track kills hy default @@jeninimas
Great concept all around! Though, a Strange Killbind is something that I wish was mentioned here
There’s such a thing as strange parts, so perhaps a ‘Suicides Committed’ strange part would be in order
I think we need strange parts for Saxton Hale kills and Zombie kills to coincide with the new gamemodes we've been getting recently. The closest you can get at the moment is a strange filter to a specific map for any of the modes, but that obviously only tracks one specific map rather than the entire gamemode.
if they did something like that i'd probably just give an item like the halloween gargoyle that tracks it within your inventory - Kills As Saxton/Victories against Saxton, and Zombie Kills/Human Kills
@@edfreak9001 But have you considered the majesty of a Wrap Assassin with 5000 Saxton Hales killed on it?
Another thing, make the Southern Hospitality rank up based on Sentry kills instead of melee kills like every other wrench
to be fair if you aren’t hitting people with it it’s a direct downgrade
Cozy camper being strange would be a dream, tracking healing done to yourself would be cool to track.
Also having Strange Golf Club would make me a happy lad, Valve, please 😢
I feel like an Ap Sap should count how long it has talked along with building destroyed. Also I think the Ap Sap should be a Red Tape Recorder resikin but that’s unrelated.
Surprised there isn’t a strange version considering it’s a promo item to a Valve game
Unironically this would make me use the red-tape recorder
Fun fact: The melee kills while charging stat would not work without using demo's triple range melee bug
To be honest all I want is a Strange part for cosmetics that shows total time I've used the cosmetic for (cloak and dagger style)
that would actually be a great strange part, yeah
I have over 1 million seconds cloaked on my strange invis watch. Would be way more as I got it the day they dropped, but I haven't played nearly as much as I used to.
6:29 doesnt the disciplinary action already do that
You are correct.
Breat Glue is so clueless to this...
@@cerealgibbon7330i love watching breat glue
I think another good strange part would be "deaths with full meter" and/or "deaths while meter active". It'd be a funny way to track, for instance, how many times you've died with full Uber as a medic or times you died with full mmph
If every weapon had a strange variant, maybe they should add a strange case that only has strange items, but make it extremely rare. Maybe even add a few weapon reskins.
Weapon reskins in Team Fortress 2 have always seemed like a strange case to me. While they don't offer any gameplay advantages or unique abilities, they have become an integral part of the game's cosmetic economy and community trading system. These reskins, also known as "skins," essentially give players the ability to change the appearance of their weapons without altering their performance in any way.
What's particularly intriguing about these reskins is the value players attach to them. Some reskins, especially those from limited-time events or rare crates, can fetch exorbitant prices on the Steam Community Market, turning virtual items into real-world currency. This has created a thriving marketplace, where players buy, sell, and trade these reskins to customize their characters and show off their style.
Furthermore, weapon reskins serve as a testament to Team Fortress 2's enduring appeal and the game's vibrant community. They continue to be created by Valve and community members alike, often celebrating in-game events, updates, or popular cultural references, adding an extra layer of charm to the game. In a sense, these seemingly trivial reskins play a unique role in keeping the game fresh and engaging, as they offer players a way to express themselves and stay connected to the ever-evolving TF2 universe.
The entire economy in CS is based on skins. No unlockable gear or cosmetics, everything is skins.
@@HappyBeezerStudiosnah both tf2 and cs economies are based on gambling
this reads almost like was written by chat gpt
@@roiwelboren9302both can be true
@@dooplon5083 shhh
Fun fact: Hot hands not being highlighted at 1:23 is a reference to how they are so bad they don't deal damage.
I know I'm off on a tangent, but at 2:10 I love how you instinctively turned to save your teleporter, saw that it was getting sapped by an RTR, and so ignored it and returned your attention to the sentry.
Bet the match was half over by the time you needed to break that sapper.
"My rocket launcher's currently my highest count with about 95 hundred kills"
Wow, someone whose highest number of kills is on solder. How brave of you, Mr. Blue.
I FREAKING LOVE WEOPON RESKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some weapons have genuine reasons as to why they don’t have stranges, at least in the case of promotional weapons and specifically the Vita-Saw, all having to do with copyright issues.
Edit: Also yes this heavily bums me out because I have a pro ks three rune blade named “Caliburn” that will never be strange and I will be eternally sad.
One stat i would have loved to see tracked on strange gunboats is "Damage reduced". which i think would be super neat overall if it tracked it
I am absolutely obsessed with these "what if" videos. You'r satisfying voice combined with the what some would call way too deep planning on a really old game is just something that brings my soul peace. Please keep uploading these kinds of videos as long as there are ideas.❤
I find it really weird that theres no assists part even though there's one for cosmetics, valve could (and should) just make the cosmetic assist part appliable on weapons and call it a day.
Something else that could be nice is having the Jumper weapons track distance traveled while blast jumping.
The gunboats should too
you actually can get a strange unusual HHH's headtaker, ive owned one in the past and its just one of those wildly expensive items that you really gotta go out of your way to obtain
Something you can track on the jumper stuff is the distance traveled. There is an achievement for it, so it's not like they can't track it
sticky jumper and rocket jumper strange counters would be: KMs travelled by blast jumping:
and hear me out, what if the lugermorph's strange variant counter cloaked/disguised spies as "mysteries solved" to honour it's source material
I'm thinking with the Fan O' War it should be Marked-for-Death kill assists and shields be charge kills. Also, speaking of low counts, imagine Short Stop push kill count. In fact, imagine a general count for environment kills.
There’s another unmentioned that you didn’t cover- Strange Haunteds, being topical for Halloween.
Strange Haunted items were and are limited Strange versions of Halloween cosmetics that were once obtainable from special unlocked Halloween crates obtained during Scream Fortress 2014, and are now only obtainable from the Haunted Gift Cauldron- in short they’re something everyone already has heard of or has gotten.
The issue with Strange Haunteds is that for whatever reason, Valve forced them to be equipped with a Strange Filter (an item similar to a part that makes your strange track progress on only a specific map, which nobody but collectors ever even try because why would you, and really should be more gamemode focused like the competitive strange filter, the only one of its kind)
The strange filter is for carnival of carnage yet without the unique tagline filtered weapons get, so you can only get kills on that one map. It also comes pre-loaded with 2 added strange parts: Bumper Car Kills (for the minigames) and Carnival Games Won (also for minigames)
Their potential is vastly underutilized by being forcibly stitched to a single map in addition to the lack of being able to get any Strange Haunteds since their crates haven’t dropped in years, and they’re highly expensive. In my eyes, it would be better if they removed the filter and the strange parts, but made the primary into ‘Points earned during Halloween’, and also making them have a chance to drop from the Pumpkin Packages given by the Contracts.
This would breathe them new life, make them actually useful and exciting to receive, and even open the door for more Halloween-related strange parts (there are already filters for most Community Halloween Maps)
Possible Parts could include:
Bosses Beaten (Monoculous, Merasmus, HHH)
Spells Cast
Skeletons Slaughtered/Monsters Slain (last one being for custom community npc enemies like the Scarecrows on Farmageddon)
Crumpkins Collected
Pumpkin Bomb Kills
Spooked Kills (players scared by HHH/Ghosts)
Thrillers Danced
Souls Collected (like gargoyle except on cosmetic)
Halloween Assists
Halloween Minigames Won (Gravestone/Bonesaw end of round minigames, Carnival of Carnage)
Underworld Escapes
Bombinomicon Explosions (by the badge item and possibly his bomb spell in Ghost Fort for funzies)
Island Loot Claimed (for end of round on old official valve maps)
Death Pits Fallen Into
And many, many more!
Imagine a strange stat for the Nostromo that tracks how many Xenomorphs you've roasted (basically how many times you've used the instant kill gimmick it has)
Really loved this video as someone who also only plays with weapons that are Strange and have a bunch of Strange parts.
Some things to mention:
The Disciplinary Action already counts players whipped so I'm not really sure what the "Allies Motivated" tracker would do that you proposed.
Giving the Vaccinator damage resisted could be a good addition or critical hits denied for the Vac or Battalions backup.
Also Valve, please add more Strange parts as well as Strange filters for TF2's official maps rather than just the community made maps. I would like to track kills and sentry kills only on Dustbowl please.
another strange part idea: non-backstab kills (only for knives or course). what spy wouldn't want to track his butterknives?
"what if every TF2" videos in Great Blue's channel have always been a strange series to me 🤔
i was thinking that you would add like a "times teleported" stat for the Eureka Effect lol
Quick note
The wrenches count sentry kills as their primary strange stat and melee kills as it's secondary stat
So the short circuit could probably swap it's counters around too
its always a good day when great blue uploads
Some of these stats are already tracked in game for some of the achievements (i.e. distance traveled for both Soldier and Demo achievements with the parachute, the FaN environmental kill achievement) so it would likely be easy to implement.
the halloween kills one is nice when you've got a weapon with an exorcism spell on it
lets you track how many souls you've taken
Can't wait for what every weapon looks like when it's festivized
I have a Wrap assasin with around 190 kills, 180 being heavies
I also have a Holy mackerel with a Halloween war paint that tracks Kills during Hallowee, Full Moon and Robots killed during Halloween (I have 600+ robots, started this October)
We could also use an MVM Damage Dealt To Tanks strange part, mostly because I want to show off a strange Bushwacka with hundreds of thousands of tank damage (I like to play anti-tank Sniper whenever possible)
Edit: Also we need more weapon-specific Strangifiers. I have a ProKS Collector's Disciplinary Action that I would absolutely LOVE to have as Strange, but there's no DA strangifier.
Gunboats could be the amount of damage you avoided by using the self damage negation
I definitely do believe there should be some stats that some weapons can track instead of kills or in addition to them. Examples include times teleported to an exit with the eureka effect’s reload key, or buildings of each type built with any other wrench.
You know I was just staring at my vintage gunboats thinking: “I wish this was strange and tracked how many times I’ve rocket jumped”
Full Moon kill strange part has been on my Strange Rocket Launcher since I got the rocket. It's super niche and cool at the same time, also i renamed my rocket to have moon-related name so it fits even better
It would be a troll move by Valve if there was a Strange Part for Rage Quit Kills
Things like the jumper weapons should have a stat like “distance traveled while blast jumping” because just tracking the times launched off of the ground would probably ignore wall jumps, pogos, and other things like that.
Headshots during flinch immunity is another good thing to track for the cozy camper
For the jumper weapons. Distance traveled would be a cool stat to track.
Also I would love the strange count for honorable duels won just for melee weapons in general. It's not every day you have a true melee duel with someone. Most of the time they'd rather shoot you first before they finally pull out their melee.
The head taker can be strange, but it’s so hilariously expensive that it’s just not worth it
I think it'd be better if the Pain Train counted time capturing a relevant objective rather than specific points captured
1:13 there is a HHH's Headtaker strangifier, from retired Unlocked Creepy Demo Crate, now it's extremely expensive.
So a little idea for the strange booties, how about showing off overall distance charged? May do better as a strange part for shields, but I thought it was cool.
Oddly enough, the primary stat tracked by the Holiday Punch is how many enemies you’ve forced into laughter (“Tickle Fights Won”), while Kills are a secondary.
The underwater part is good to put on the Neon Annihilator when you're doing Pyro shark. The problem is just that there's so few maps with water you can swim in, and it's kinda a half-baked mechanic anyway, it has a lot of potential but is ultimately a borrow from HL2.
I mean, I think the vitasaw should totally have the ability to count how many organs you've stolen lol
I feel like a great way to give out new strangifiers and strange parts is with a new mvm tour, I mean strangifiers already have gray mans logo on it and depending on how rare they are I could see it rivaling two cities as a lot of peoples main tour
Suprisingly ive see a lot more demoknights using the zatoichi now(myself included), so seeing how many duels i get seems intresting.
this would be cool as a sort of "The Strange Update" which just adds a bunch of things to the game that aren't directly new content, primarily focusing on stuff like this video
What we really need is for environmental kills to count towards killstreaks
i think a cool strange part would be Attacker/Offense Kills to mirror Defender Kills; basically just a strange part that tracks kills while you're standing on a point, pushing a cart or have the intelligence on your back
it'd be very funny for miniguns specifically as heavies love just standing ontop of payload carts and shooting anything that moves with their infinite ammo or scatterguns for those scouts who love turbine
I agree and like all of your points and ideas, BUT, kills under a full moon is a goated part. I have it (and kills during Halloween) on ALL of my spelled items!
My first thought for the parachute, thermal thruster, rocket/sticky jumper was "distance traveled". And for the demoknight boots, seconds spent charging / distance charged.
9:06 This would be perfect for a “1000 Kills/Hale’s Own Without Backstabs” video.
For a small time there was a bug that allowed you to apply a nameless Strangifier to any item in the game. A Pseudo Universal Strangifier. There currently exist a number of Strange Crates and PDAs. Because of the way stat tracking in TF2 works, the Strange PDA actually tracks sentry kills.
For the explosive jumpers, you could make it count the number of jumps in a row, and for the base jumper, you could also tag the amount of distance you've glided.
6:14 Doesn't a strange Disciplinary Action already track that? I had one for a while and I'm pretty sure I remember it doing that
Stat clocks are so cool, I want one on my sandvich that tracks every time i eat it. Preferably nearby the spot where heavy bites so a piece of it is missing after use.
Fun fact, mini-crit kills are already tracked by the Critical Kills part, which would make one surrounded around mini-crits specifically redundant
the fact that you just made the phlog "mmph mmmph" is so funny
Honestly, I'd love to see stuff like the jumpers track distance traveled while rocket/sticky jumping
I would love that Afterburn Kills Strange Part, as currently I have to use a "Burning Players Killed" part on my s.f. Huntsman, which kind of does track how many kills I got with flaming arrows, but not entirely.
An afterburn kills strange part would allow me to only track kills I got with flaming arrows, as it would only track my own afterburn kills and thus only my flaming arrow kills.
1:24no the vita saw doesnt have a strange one is because its take from bioshock and if they sold it they would actually get sued
literally I was just thinking about this like five minutes ago. are you a psychic
The whip for soldier, track kills as a secondary thing as the primary thing you do with it, is teammastes whipped
the kills while underwater stat could be good for the neon annihilator but the crit kills strange part probably does a good enough job for that too
I think it'd be fun if the Gunboats and Jumper weapons counted and leveled up based off of how much damage you *Didnt* take while using them.
I think backstab kills isn't necessary because the knives do so low damage close up that unlike headshot kills for snipers, where you could reasonably get a high amount without actually being good enough to hit headshots, that isn't really possible for the knife so around 95% of kills are backstabs anyways.
So how about non-backstab kills?
Which means either the accidental front kill or the crazy spy who decides they really need 1000 kills without backstab.
Personally for the jumper weapons I like the idea from soundsmith, tracking distance traveled while blast jumping
6:15 you do realise that the strange disciplinary action already has a secondary stat for team mates whipped right
We also need a strange part for multi-kills, aka weapons that get additional kills with 0.1 seconds of the original kill. This could be used on all explosive weapons, weapons that can AoE taunt kill, and the Machina/Shooting Star.
5:21 For a strange PDA you could make it a cosmetic similar to how the Pip-Boy already functions as a reskin of the PDA with it's own UI.
1:22 *great blue ignoring the fact that the hot hand thermal thruster and short circuit can deal damage*
Woah now, you dont want to overwhelm the 2 janitors and the potted plant, theyre still dealing with the second half of the "summer" update
For the gunboats you can make it show how much damage it has reduced when you blast jump every time and for cozy camper you can make it show how much health it has healed you in total and for the darwins it is the same as gunboats, showing how much fire damage it has reduced.
Strange concept
Strangifer for rock paper scissors
Tracks duel wins and duel losses, levels with wins
Another thing you could do with the gunboats is track the meters that you've flown while in the air using them.
Really looking forward to the update that brings this
A change that should be done on the strange part Gib Kills is it should also be able to add on the detonator. Tried a few years ago when I mainly used my strange detonator but bought that strangepart to find out I was fooled by Valve
Dragon's Fury my beloved. I'd pay decent cash for a Strange version of it. Also odd how it has one singular war paint. It's less paintable than a fish.
You missed the tide turner lmao
But that would just be a simple case of making the strange just like every other shield
the hot hand not getting greened out at the start dude
I would also like trackers for "Splash damage kills" and "times fired". I could finally track how many times I killed people with rollers, but it would also track people I killed while hitting their team mates, I guess. And putting "times fired" and "times hit" on a weapons sounds really funny.
I think that it would be interesting to have damage prevented on the jumper weapons as secondary tracking
I also think a metric for the cozy camper that you could track is how many flinches you've negated by having the camper equipped. could a cool stat for my hard-scoping friends lol
Spy knives should track 'Facestabs done' instead of backstabs imo. Would be way funnier.