Jessica Berlin - Policy of Escalation Management has Hurt Ukraine and is Not a Strategy for Victory.

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  • čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
  • Fears of Russia’s collapse in Biden’s and Scholz’s administrations run deep and can't be changed by telling stories of Russian war crimes alone. Advisers and analysts have been conditioned by decades of Soviet nuclear threat and memory of the chaotic and rapid collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1990s. But what can turn politicians that cling to security blanket of escalation management, into leaders that imagine a Ukrainian victory, a triumph of pluralistic, democratic values, and plan accordingly?
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    Jessica Berlin is an international political analyst, founder of the strategy consultancy CoStruct, and Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors at the pan-African fintech company Bridge Technologies. She has previously lived in Afghanistan, China, Myanmar, Rwanda, the UK, and US and worked in security, foreign policy, and economic development. Institutions she’s worked with include the US Senate, US Department of Defence, and the German development agency. Her commentary has been featured on CNN, BBC, DW News, the Washington Post, Le Monde, and many others. She is currently a Non-resident Fellow at the think tank CEPA and has held past fellowships from the German Marshall Fun, the Robert Bosch Foundation, and others.
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Komentáře • 379

  • @tamarasidlartchouk3138
    @tamarasidlartchouk3138 Před 16 dny +93

    Amazing guest, Jonathan! People like Jessica Berlin are extremely needed to promote Ukrainian cause. Thank you both 💙💛👍♥️

    • @TheVeritas2100
      @TheVeritas2100 Před 15 dny

      WOW - another DREAMER , Jessica Berlin, who has NOT a CLUE about the GeoPolitics, about the RealPolitik ... and essentially can contribute NOTHING to this discussion - another AOC-type 'dreamer' WHICH has NO IDEA HOW THE REAL WORLDS OPERATES !

  • @sherrillwhately7586
    @sherrillwhately7586 Před 17 dny +123

    I wrote to Biden about the need for strong moral leadership and got a speech back from Dr Wallander (indirectly) about not encouraging Ukraine 🇺🇦 to strike ‘so called civilian targets,’ as in oil refineries in Russia, which are clearly military or at least dual use targets. That made me so angry when I see Russia’s war crimes so blatantly every single day.

    • @larisam6755
      @larisam6755 Před 16 dny +9

      Thank you for your support!💛💙

    • @stevendaugherty7590
      @stevendaugherty7590 Před 16 dny +23

      I agree with you: as an American it us outrageous that my government was against Ukraine attacking Russian oil refineries, which are legitimate military targets. Unbelievable short sightedness!

    • @Titan-ee9em
      @Titan-ee9em Před 16 dny +5

      Who on earth is dr wallander?

    • @sherrillwhately7586
      @sherrillwhately7586 Před 16 dny

      @@Titan-ee9em Dr Wallander is the spokesperson from the Pentagon who appeared before Congress in an exchange with Republican Senator Austin Scott during an inquiry into a report that the Biden Administration had told Kyiv to refrain from hitting oil refineries in Russia allegedly because it would raise gas prices ahead of the USA 🇺🇸 Presidential election.

    • @wyskass861
      @wyskass861 Před 16 dny +9

      War crimes of one nation don't justify war crimes of another. But at the same time, war crimes don't help in achieving victory , and targeting civilians doesn't help either. That said targeting fuel refineries is certainly within Ukraines rights and are a useful target to decrease Russia war fighting capability. This isn't targeting hospitals or schools.
      What is most frustrating about the Biden administration is the limited support which may be enough to deny Russia victory but not enough for Ukrainian victory, which simply prolongs a stalemate, and shift factors onto economic and industrial capacity rather than military operations. It's shameful to ask Ukraine to fight as long as their methods don't inconvenience the rest of the world. They are doing what they can with what they have to be as effective as possible, and without increased tactical capabilities they target the enemies logistic capability while holding defensive lines. It's their best move right now.

  • @stevendaugherty7590
    @stevendaugherty7590 Před 17 dny +99

    I agree 100% with her statement that many of our Western leaders don't understand the mentality of a bully. I learned in elementary school that bullies don't pick on the big guys, & will also leave alone the smaller guys that fight back. I think this is so because many of our leaders grew up in financially well off families that likely lived sheltered lives, including going to private schools. I could be wrong, but having to deal with bullies from elementary through high school in public schools teaches you a lot about human nature.

    • @peterlaurie1247
      @peterlaurie1247 Před 16 dny

      Most European politicians are in office to make money by circumventing democracy for corporations. They didn't sign up to defend democracy. Who is going to bribe them to do that?

    • @kevinviel6177
      @kevinviel6177 Před 16 dny +1

      That bully thing seems a bit of BS. Maybe some falter and slink away. Those who can truly fight or otherwise overpower do not seem to just flee when they get hit, IF they get hit. "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" rings a bit true, but facing someone who DGAF about law is an altogether different beast. Russia has been throwing bodies at wars for over a century, at least.

    • @samsungtap4183
      @samsungtap4183 Před 16 dny

      Yes of course but first you have to educate yourself as to who the Bully really is. That's not easy if you live in the "Empire of Lies"
      When Nato Destroyed Yugoslavia what did you think. When supported the lunatic Albanians and gave a christian Kosovo to Islam...what did you think ? When Nato destroyed Libya which at the time was ranked 35th most prosperous country in the world, now it's 150th or when you killed millions in Iraq...Afganistan, Syria etc estimates are Nato has killed over 4 million people in the last 30yrs and displaced millions more. I know it's a bitter pill to realize your the bully...the free world knows the truth and that's why they support Russia

    • @jonathanpersson1205
      @jonathanpersson1205 Před 16 dny +11

      @@samsungtap4183 in this case Russia is the bully, your propaganda against NATO doesn't change the fact that Russia has invaded their neighbour and fights them in a very barbaric way with no consideration for civilians

    • @JGldmn333
      @JGldmn333 Před 16 dny

      Makes sense. Also teaches you how to deal with slutty girls...lol

  • @4evaavfc
    @4evaavfc Před 16 dny +26

    Jessica is spot on. Thank you for providing the opportunity to see Jessica speak. I hope political leaders are listening.

    • @TheVeritas2100
      @TheVeritas2100 Před 15 dny

      WOW - Jessica Berlin just another DREAMER , who has NOT a CLUE about the GeoPolitics, and/or about the RealPolitik of the World ... and essentially she can contribute NOTHING to this discussion -
      just another AOC-type 'dreamer' WHICH has NO IDEA HOW THE REAL WORLDS OPERATES !

  • @Awibrahor
    @Awibrahor Před 16 dny +7

    What a wonderfully smart, eloquent and well-informed lady. More of Jessica Berlin!

  • @EEX97623
    @EEX97623 Před 16 dny +31

    Another acknowledgement that leaders from Baltics, and others in East Europe, have been sounding the alarm for years, yet were ignored or seen as hysterical. Now Finland and Sweden are in NATO there's a galvanizing of the Nordics and Baltics working together, and living in the reality of close proximity to Russia. Greetings from Estonia.

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse Před 16 dny +4

      NATO can help with material aid and weapons here but I think Ukraine, Scandinavia, the Baltics & other former Soviet satellites like Poland and the Czechs understand this enemy better than the US or Western Europe. We can advise but y’all are better suited to leading in this war.

    • @samsungtap4183
      @samsungtap4183 Před 16 dny

      Oh yes Estonia. First you murdered for the soviets in their class war then you murdered for the Germans in their race war and then the Soviets again. Estonia swimming in blood. Yes you got away with mass murder always someone else's fault.

    • @2639theboss
      @2639theboss Před 16 dny

      Unfortunately, as an American, many of our leaders will simultaneously think they know better than your nations while also being unwilling to take a real leadership role in the discussion.
      Thank fuck that Poland, France, and the UK seem to be starting to realize the problem, i dont think US political leaders will listen to our other allies.

  • @utrian4148
    @utrian4148 Před 17 dny +31

    So great to hear from her again. Jessica Berlin rocks!

  • @DanaPearsonVastman
    @DanaPearsonVastman Před 16 dny +8

    Jessica is one of the most intelligent and lucid communicators on Earth

  • @free2dialogue
    @free2dialogue Před 16 dny +19

    Best channel to hear committed supporters of Ukraine.
    ❤ from Germany

  • @DS8G10
    @DS8G10 Před 16 dny +11

    I got so frustrated by a recent article in the Guardian by US 'strategist' Emma Ashford espousing this 'escalation management' attitude, even suggesting Ukraine was wrong not to agree to terms in early 2022. I wrote a response to the Guardian, but I could not limit my criticisms to 300 words as their website requests. I post it here in any case: I find many of the arguments made in Emma Ashford's article highly questionable. They remind me very much of John Mearsheimer's 'realist' stance about Ukraine and geopolitics, which essentially ignores the rights of smaller nations amongst larger spheres of influence. My strongest criticism is directed towards the notion that Ukraine could and perhaps should have agreed to 'compromise' in 2022, and that it would still be sensible to consider this option going forward. In my view, this would represent a far greater 'roll of the dice' than continuing to resist. I study the importance of discourse in historical narratives as a key part of my History PhD, and perhaps the word 'appeasement' carries far greater connotations here in the UK than in the US, shaping my perspective. But even if one were to ignore other historical precedents, and only to consider the last few decades, how could Ukraine possibly trust negotiated terms with a criminal authoritarian power which repeatedly violates the sovereignty of its neighbours, denies Ukraine's right to exist, and reneges on its past agreements? In my view then, given we are dealing with a highly duplicitous adversary, the conduct of early peace talks fundamentally does not 'disprove' the idea that Russia will never be satisfied until it is victorious. I am fully aware of different modes of remembering; antagonistic, cosmopolitan and agonistic. A generous reading would suggest an agonistic perspective seems to be the understandable aim of Ashford, whilst my view (although it may seem antagonistic) can most closely be linked to cosmopolitanism, and the view that democracy is a positive force and totalitarianism an evil one. Agonism stresses attention to the nature of a conflict and its social circumstances, context and agency. It suggests we should learn from the perspectives of both victims and perpetrators. However in my view, sometimes 'absolutist narratives' are necessary to stimulate political action and, crucially, are ultimately broadly correct. Indeed, the ways Ashford seeks to 'undermine' some of the narratives about Ukraine mirrors many Kremlin propaganda pieces which attempt to distort the issue of responsibility for their own actions, especially in stating '[m]any of Ukraine’s strongest supporters in Washington and in eastern Europe have repeatedly argued that Nato expansion and the issue of Ukraine’s potential accession to the alliance had nothing to do with Russia’s choice to invade, which they typically attribute to cultural chauvinism or imperial delusions.' Perhaps it was not the author's intention, but this wording seems to present NATO expansion as a legitimate Russian concern, depicting the growing alliance as aggressive rather than defensive in nature, and seemingly dismisses the fact that Russian imperialism is clearly present in a plethora of cultural examples (see Maria Shuvalova's work for example which has featured on Silicon Curtain) as well as in the actions (and not just the 'extreme statements') of its leadership and elites. Moreover, Ashford's perspective further ignores the fact that without NATO membership, the Baltic and Scandinavian countries would currently be far more vulnerable themselves to invasion. To be clear, in my view, there can be negotiation in future, but only to ensure ultimately once Ukraine is fully liberated that its sovereignty and economic future are secured.

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 Před 16 dny +21

    Jessica says at 18:40 that those in the chancellory and White House seem to have never stood up to a bully on the playground. I wrote the White House months ago the same view, though I added at any age in any setting. Their fear while in leadership roles is pathetic and infuriating.
    There is proof Russia would not resort to the nuclear option, their only escalatory option left, because Ukraine has multiple times in multiple instances crossed the red lines that are, in Russian law, triggers for a nuclear response.

  • @tamarasidlartchouk3138
    @tamarasidlartchouk3138 Před 16 dny +16

    The most honest and accurate analysis together with Timothy Snyder's on the Western mistakes . Hear hear 👏👏

    • @bo45
      @bo45 Před 16 dny +2

      Agreed!!!

    • @bo45
      @bo45 Před 16 dny +2

      👍🇺🇲💓🇺🇦💪
      Slava Ukraini
      Bo Johnson ~ Tucson, AZ

    • @tamarasidlartchouk3138
      @tamarasidlartchouk3138 Před 16 dny +2

      Heroiam Slava!

  • @philippreese1229
    @philippreese1229 Před 17 dny +63

    Jessica is great!

    • @Namuchat
      @Namuchat Před 16 dny

      I don't think that she is that great.

    • @gerryhouska2859
      @gerryhouska2859 Před 16 dny +5

      @@Namuchat I do! Wise beyond her years.

    • @Max_Malletus_64
      @Max_Malletus_64 Před 16 dny

      Jessica Berlin = Accurate & wonderfully succinct. When the dots are so obvious you don't need a ruler to join them up. You do need Western 'Rulers' to collectively & effectively support Ukraine which means ramping up military capacity to thwart Russian aggression & imperial desires around the world. Learn from history - ignore it at the peril of lost freedoms. Freedoms that cost millions of lives & centuries of suffering. If you're not prepared to defend what you have - it will be 'taken' from you - it's not warmongering - it's the reality of life.

  • @timtrewyn453
    @timtrewyn453 Před 16 dny +7

    Russian global strategy includes increasing its control of global commodities and their prices. An example would be Venezuela recently. Russia, in part through its own lack of capabilities, essentially has reduced Venezuelan oil output from 3 million barrels a day to less than one million, just enough to prop up its client regime. African regimes appear to be accepting the model, seeing as it will work for themselves. Their people in general will be like Russians in general, with little recourse and a poor standard of living compared to what they could have. We should really hold up Cuba and Venezuela and Nicaragua as poster children for these African populations.

  • @MrCcristof
    @MrCcristof Před 16 dny +7

    Amazing, give our thanks to Jessica

  • @user-pp6mc4jm2r
    @user-pp6mc4jm2r Před 16 dny +21

    The truth is we need put our money and our mouth where our morals are"
    As an American citizen i dont believe i could have said it better

  • @johnpowell1830
    @johnpowell1830 Před 16 dny +7

    Wow. Just wow. One of your best interviews and interviewee yet. Thanks.

  • @Whangareitaiji3138
    @Whangareitaiji3138 Před 16 dny +6

    There has been a common thread in Russian history towards the West. First demanding western help (as if it is owed) and then biting off the hand that tried to feed them. It happened repeatedly under the Czars, under Stalin after WW2 and under Putin after 2000. The Russian also seem to prefer running a negative sum game. As in "If I can't have it, then neither can you. And I'll also try my best to make it even worse."

  • @SL-sd3sg
    @SL-sd3sg Před 17 dny +42

    Agreed, so many mistakes made and so many Ukrainian lives lost. Disgraceful.

  • @ScythianGryphon
    @ScythianGryphon Před 14 dny +5

    Thanks you Jessica! You are a voice of reason for the Free World and true friend to Ukraine!

  • @luminyam6145
    @luminyam6145 Před 16 dny +6

    She is so right that there has to be disincentivization for aggressors to see that this is not the way forward. Plugging gaps is an old way of thinking.

  • @susanmetcalfe4329
    @susanmetcalfe4329 Před 16 dny +4

    Thank you for inviting Jessica Berlin! We need to AMPLIFY her voice in a viral way. Common sense is far too uncommon with the politicians calling the shots. Please people...heed Jessica's wisdom.

  • @aldovalkovich755
    @aldovalkovich755 Před 16 dny +7

    Formidable host👏

  • @006jjm
    @006jjm Před 16 dny +4

    Thank you Jonathan and Jessica. People like you makes it possible to believe in a future for mankind.

  • @wayofthehike
    @wayofthehike Před 16 dny +7

    Jessica Berlin is the best. Such a good interview.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand Před 16 dny +11

    One of the best conversations so far. Jessica is very impressive.

  • @timmommens901
    @timmommens901 Před 16 dny +6

    Utmost respect for Jessica.
    Intelligent, smart, articulated and clear logic. Good natural vibe.
    Love her talking.👍
    Aside that too me she is a real stunner. 😊

  • @jjj76120
    @jjj76120 Před 17 dny +15

    Great guest, great work! ❤

  • @jamespro95
    @jamespro95 Před 16 dny +5

    Absolutely one of THE best interviews!! Thanks to both of you!

  • @esakoivuniemi
    @esakoivuniemi Před 16 dny +4

    Jessica is absolutely right. Thanks Jonathan and Jessica.

  • @glennpearce7093
    @glennpearce7093 Před 16 dny +4

    Great interview with Jessica she is so right.Thanks Jonathan

  • @guy7gsa
    @guy7gsa Před 16 dny +3

    Always enjoy interviews given by Jessica Berlin.

  • @Korpen_1979
    @Korpen_1979 Před 16 dny +4

    Thank you Jessica and Jonathan! This was a very interesting interview.
    Slava Ukraini! Heroiam slava! Razom, do peremohi!
    Greetings from Sweden

  • @ayoutubechannelhasnoname6018

    "We have weak leaders surrounded by weak advisors!"
    Well said!

  • @GrahamCStrouse
    @GrahamCStrouse Před 16 dny +9

    Part of the problem, and this is not a new problem in the US. It dates back to the Kennedy as I situation, really & it goes back to the way we run the State Department. There are a lot of dedicated career diplomats and foreign policy experts at State. The problem is that the people who call the shots and make most of the decisions are political appointees who rarely last longer than the length of whatever administration is in charge at the moment. Some of them are well-meaning but inexperienced wonks and academics, others are straight-up hacks. Nearly all of them are amateurs, however, and that’s a problem.
    People like Jake Sullivan may mean well, but putting them in charge is like putting a rookie cop in charge of the NYPD.

  • @andreforthegreatergood
    @andreforthegreatergood Před 17 dny +20

    Share this with Western leaders!

    • @JaneSoole
      @JaneSoole Před 16 dny +2

      Yes, do that. She tells the truth. Late, late, late, wobbly, chocolate soldiers...I don't believe that one man could hold up the US edifice.. Sorry, the delay seems extremely contrived.

  • @squireson
    @squireson Před 16 dny +6

    Self deterrence has been pretty upsetting to watch.
    Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

  • @Dougohere1
    @Dougohere1 Před 15 dny +5

    Jessica Berlin makes the problems we face very clearly understood with her well delivered and eloquent arguments about our only choice, complete victory over the brutal invader. The reality and consequences of defeat are also brought home very starkly. Our battle is not just with Russia, it is also with our own businesses whose actions are only concerned with monetary gain. They are blind to the wider picture and must be controlled and forced out of their one sided stupor.

  • @ThomSanders-ow1jb
    @ThomSanders-ow1jb Před 16 dny +4

    I cannot fault anything this woman says. She has a deep and clear understanding of the current situation and the weakness of the Wests leaders. Excellent interview. I only wish there were more people listening to her and, for that matter, the podcasts on Silicon Curtain.

  • @nickisauer9626
    @nickisauer9626 Před 16 dny +5

    Jessica for President 🎉❤

  • @robertmiskey5502
    @robertmiskey5502 Před 16 dny +5

    I agree. We need a defined strategic policy with a defined end result. No more ambiguous statements coming from Western leaders. This is not what is needed for the situation.

  • @ErkkiPalmu
    @ErkkiPalmu Před 16 dny +3

    Kudos to Jessica! One of the most sensible voices on Russias war on Ukraine and on the behaviour of the west in relation to this conflict! 👍

  • @nevco8774
    @nevco8774 Před 16 dny +3

    Jessica is an extremely eloquent speaker. That was a wonderful interview.

  • @angusp5178
    @angusp5178 Před 16 dny +3

    Superb - great guest, highly articulate and morally sound too

  • @rustyheyman214
    @rustyheyman214 Před 16 dny +3

    So glad you had her on the show. Big Jessica Berlin fan.

  • @williamfialkowski8384
    @williamfialkowski8384 Před 16 dny +4

    Jessica is so on target and brilliant in her discussion of the necessity to defeat russsia Thank you for this clip

  • @gogudelagaze1585
    @gogudelagaze1585 Před 16 dny +6

    Excellent discussion, thank you both so much! The last question in particular is something we all need to consider.

  • @johnwilliams2660
    @johnwilliams2660 Před 16 dny +4

    Excellent interview thank you, Jessica and Johnathon.

  • @BurningThirdRome
    @BurningThirdRome Před 16 dny +4

    Greetings from Germany/Gruß aus Deutschland. Slava Ukraine! 🇺🇦🇩🇪

  • @amyhall3617
    @amyhall3617 Před 15 dny +3

    This lady is amazing! So knowledgeable and clear.

  • @shanew.williams
    @shanew.williams Před 16 dny +5

    The young lady expresses a lot of wisdom. Particularly @12:13 . The Ukrainians are exhibiting no less bravery & sacrifice than our own American (and Allied) forces that defeated NAZI's & Japanese forces in WW2. The future is NOW.

  • @DarkestAlice
    @DarkestAlice Před 16 dny +12

    Thank you, Jonathan, for your conversation with Jessica Berlin. Thank you, Jessica Berlin, you are brilliant.
    🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

  • @LiveWellUkraine
    @LiveWellUkraine Před 16 dny +4

    She's has the broadest understanding of this conflict.

  • @thomasjohnson3205
    @thomasjohnson3205 Před 16 dny +8

    An accurate and a no holds barred commentary on the policy of the western leaders. It’s been too little too late to protect a new burgeoning eastern Democracy.

  • @halfalligator6518
    @halfalligator6518 Před 13 dny +1

    What a great job she's doing with her journalism. Thanks for the chat.

  • @andyreznick
    @andyreznick Před 15 dny +2

    Great to see Ms. Berlin here. I always tune in when she's on roundtables on DW. Outstanding expert and professional.
    I was very pleased with her advocation for building on *effective* politics instead of the yelling-and screaming kind.

  • @TMMReznor
    @TMMReznor Před 16 dny +5

    I like this lass, she's hella sharp.

  • @karsten11553
    @karsten11553 Před 16 dny +4

    "It is a good thing for imperial powers to lose wars." Absolutely goddamn right, we have been civilized by our defeats. Sending military aid to allow Ukraine to defend itself might not be helping russia, but it is most certainly helping the russians.

    • @pcopeland15
      @pcopeland15 Před 16 dny +4

      Timothy Snyder says that Germany did not suddenly decide to appreciate peace and prosperity, they were badly beaten in two wars.

  • @bruceferry6229
    @bruceferry6229 Před 17 dny +42

    Agreed! I support Biden but Jake Sullivan needs to go! He’s at the center of this timid policy in the administration.

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  Před 17 dny +14

      👍 yes. My feelings entirely.

    • @bruceferry6229
      @bruceferry6229 Před 17 dny +7

      @@SiliconCurtain Jake and his wife Maggie Goodlander technically reside in my state. She has a similar high level US government background. My US Rep has decided not to run this fall. Maggie Goodlander is exploring running. I said who? Never heard of her and if you google her it would seem she has the same foreign policy stance as her husband. I’m all set , no thanks.

    • @WalterBurton
      @WalterBurton Před 17 dny

      @@SiliconCurtain : Disappointing.

    • @susanmetcalfe4329
      @susanmetcalfe4329 Před 16 dny

      ​@WalterBurton What is disappointing Walter? Put up or shut up.

    • @WalterBurton
      @WalterBurton Před 16 dny

      @@susanmetcalfe4329 :
      You'll pardon me if I paste my response to another comment that hopefully answers your aggressive "request."
      @PeterA650 : You misunderstand. We're not talking about Putin's lawless murderous husk.
      I walk with those who saw the regime for what it was and increasingly lost hope for its reform with every assassination.
      We're talking about Monday-morning quarterbacking NATO strategy, in general, but the WH/NSC, more specifically. And Jake Sullivan, to be even more specific.
      I don't give a rip about JS. No lost love, etc. Replace him. Couldn't care less.
      But do it with cause. Explain how you would handle a nuclear adversary and woefully thin armies and stocks of materiel.
      Explain what strategy you'd implement instead of the escalation management we've seen.
      I get the atavistic desire to make it all make sense. But you can't just shout "MOAR, FASTER!" and wave your hands in the face of reality, as if you're invoking some powerful incantation.
      I mean, you CAN do that. A lot of people are doing that.

  • @johncromwell2529
    @johncromwell2529 Před 17 dny +12

    Thx great work!🙏🇺🇦👏

  • @SamDeBoni
    @SamDeBoni Před 12 dny +1

    Awesome guest. Exceptionally clear message and call to action.

  • @neilclay5835
    @neilclay5835 Před 16 dny +6

    One of the best interviews I've seen on this channel I think. Concise, powerfully argued. Spot on with her assessments. Politicians must start to listen!

  • @m.rogers5846
    @m.rogers5846 Před 12 dny +1

    Terrific guest. No pulling punches for her. Western leaders could learn a lot from her.

  • @albertvanlingen7590
    @albertvanlingen7590 Před 16 dny +3

    Regarding Africa - The reason the west isn't getting anywhere in Africa is because the taking of bribes by officials is completely engrained into African culture. I agree with everything she says in the interview!!!

  • @daladams
    @daladams Před 16 dny +1

    Wow! Fantastic episode as always and such a great and informed guest. Thank you so much for the wonderful coverage of this War.

  • @timmommens901
    @timmommens901 Před 17 dny +10

    Oh.... still listening to Juzzie.
    Yet jessica Berlin can't miss that one.😊
    🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

  • @vitocasaldi6938
    @vitocasaldi6938 Před 16 dny +7

    Very incredible lucid analysis

  • @MarieGobeille
    @MarieGobeille Před 16 dny +2

    ✨Merci!✨
    💙💛

  • @mistermaniac3517
    @mistermaniac3517 Před 16 dny +3

    An amazing guest, I agree.

  • @TheCatwhisper
    @TheCatwhisper Před 16 dny +2

    Eloquently and intelligently explained.......♥

  • @michelleagnew8780
    @michelleagnew8780 Před 16 dny +2

    Excellent video! I’m grateful for the summary and point of view that Jessica Berlin has shared with us today. I’ll be watching more of her videos and I’ll be looking forward to seeing other people interviewed on this channel.

  • @olena-
    @olena- Před 16 dny +4

    Loved the pic of a Ukrainian drone labelled by the nickname "Escalation Manager".

  • @MattyOfPassion
    @MattyOfPassion Před 15 dny

    Jessica Berlin is a joy to listen to. Brilliant, sharp as a knife and empahtetic in her analysis of the threat of autocracy. Love it!

  • @djparn007
    @djparn007 Před 16 dny +4

    Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

  • @matthewboulden7215
    @matthewboulden7215 Před 15 dny

    Amongst one of the most consistent and informative ongoing discussions regarding the war in Ukraine. Part of my weekly consumption, thanks for producing it John

  • @fgarnold
    @fgarnold Před 16 dny +1

    Thank you. This was a fantastically insightful discussion that needs a much wider audience. Will also add, it's enormously frustrating how the vast majority of our democracies' voters can't distinguish between a politician and an actual leader.

  • @enoughisenough2556
    @enoughisenough2556 Před 16 dny +4

    Thank you, very intresting !

  • @grahamrutherford8800
    @grahamrutherford8800 Před 16 dny +2

    Another great interview,. Great insight. Remarkable.

  • @jonathanpersson1205
    @jonathanpersson1205 Před 16 dny +3

    The best thing the west can do is give Ukraine enough to win now, (it is also the cheapest). At the moment we have begun to give them almost enough to win forever. The most expensive outcome will be to allow Russia to defeat Ukraine. It will mean the need for Europe to carry out a massive increase in military spending to contain Russia for the next 40 years and America will have to decide whether it still wants to be the leader of the free world, no other country is likely to stand up for freedom like America has. Most European countries are not as committed to freedom as America is.

  • @dmitryxcom
    @dmitryxcom Před 12 dny +1

    brilliant understanding. May all Americans and westerners in general wake up to that.

  • @Hans_Schumann
    @Hans_Schumann Před 16 dny +1

    Great Channel, great Interview.
    Thanks a lot and kind regards

  • @rbowler88
    @rbowler88 Před 14 dny +2

    Thanks Jonathan. Another very interesting discussion.

  • @timotheusvanesch3959
    @timotheusvanesch3959 Před 16 dny +6

    Intelligence (with a good heart) is so hard to find...

  • @marianne6876
    @marianne6876 Před 16 dny +3

    Ukraine Will Win,
    Slava Ukrayini 🇺🇦🌻🇺🇦

  • @estoy3300
    @estoy3300 Před 16 dny +3

    thx for having Jessica on.
    and now after the aid package is through where is the aid package to say "I'm sorry for the 6 month delay"?

  • @stefanschneider4532
    @stefanschneider4532 Před 16 dny +2

    An expert worth hearing, thank you.

  • @ZillionDollarSadist
    @ZillionDollarSadist Před 15 dny +1

    Thank you for this great episode ❤

  • @Hvitserk67
    @Hvitserk67 Před 16 dny +4

    A great video. African skepticism towards Western influence and politics is of course fully understandable in a historical context. The great irony, however, is that the alternatives are so much worse and utterly tragic for Africans. China puts them in bottomless debt to achieve political goals and the Russians give a damn about everyone but themselves. However, I am unsure whether increased trade with the Africans is realistic. As a rule, this develops more or less by itself if the basis for profit is there and there is political stability at the same time. There are several examples of large Western companies that have had production in Africa, but have withdrawn in favor of Asia. There are also examples of large international funds that have investments in Africa, but keep this at a relatively low level to reduce the risk. Unfortunately for the Africans, the global economy also means that investment follows profit where it is most readily available and fairly protected against unforeseen political and economic events. In this context, it will be a long time before international businesses again dare to invest in Russia.

  • @terryfox9344
    @terryfox9344 Před 15 dny

    Fantastic interview and unbelievably insightful and articulate guest! Wow! Thank you very much.

  • @TooBadToBeAway1
    @TooBadToBeAway1 Před 16 dny

    Wonderful interview and insights. I totally agree with her about the failures of escalation management. With every hesitation to send weapons, particularly long-range missiles and aircraft, with every hesitation to allow Ukraine into Nato, with every statement that 'Putin has already lost' (Blinken), Putin only escalates. He's done this time and time again and has rendered Nato into irrelevance. And that is their game plan; Medvedev has stated this openly. It's beyond to see this pattern play out, again, and again and again. In fact, it's insane. Putin even appears to have bought off the Maga wing, so there is no viable alternative in the US to Biden's appeasement. Where is the Churchill of the Republican Party? Now would be a good time to state your case.

  • @kevingrimbeek2106
    @kevingrimbeek2106 Před 16 dny

    Great Guest! Sometimes education beats experience which can create a delayed response for fear of the known!!!

  • @janpeterbaark7540
    @janpeterbaark7540 Před 13 dny

    I first saw Jessica Berlin for over a year ago in a German television discussion. I was very impressed by her clear logic in the discussions.

  • @pcopeland15
    @pcopeland15 Před 16 dny +5

    Questioning escalation management strategies is essential. There is a missing point in these discussions. Democratically elected politicians cannot get too far ahead of constituents. Roosevelt held back for years on Churchill. The public was not there in sufficient numbers. I could raise other examples. Democratic leadership is a balancing act sometimes.

    • @WalterBurton
      @WalterBurton Před 16 dny

      Hear hear!

    • @pcopeland15
      @pcopeland15 Před 15 dny +1

      What interests me is how the public is "brought along." Social media is very noisy, but I have an overview for native English speakers. I wonder about content in Poland, Germany or Ukraine itself.

    • @WalterBurton
      @WalterBurton Před 15 dny +2

      @@pcopeland15 :
      Yes. Keep the administrators and the generals accountable, etc.
      But the strength to fight comes from the consent of the governed.
      And, hard-talk, we might have to manufacture that consent, a la Edward Bernays, etc.

    • @pcopeland15
      @pcopeland15 Před 15 dny +1

      @@WalterBurton Bernays, yes. I have mixed thoughts about what constitutes propaganda. It's an abstract conversation until varies forms of brutality kick in. Oddly I have been listening to (not reading) Sarah Paine, lately. Brutal, sometimes wrong, but very factual.

    • @pcopeland15
      @pcopeland15 Před 15 dny +1

      @@WalterBurton I also think calm debunking of obvious propaganda brings a sense of clarity, more than any set of assertions. And being aware, as much as possible, of what is not being discussed or mentioned.

  • @vladpootin5973
    @vladpootin5973 Před 14 dny

    Jessica Berlin is such a joy to listen to, I have been following her works for many years, truly an inspiring and intrepid woman, especially with her having (to some extend I believe) German roots, germany certainly could use and would urgently need more people of her quality and stature!

  • @robertgoldbornatyout
    @robertgoldbornatyout Před 15 dny

    What an amazing brave good very wise woman thankyou Jonathan for all your hard very important work.

  • @peterlancucki4928
    @peterlancucki4928 Před 16 dny +1

    Call Jessica talks about earlier, about leaders needing to step up and admit mistakes, remind me of all Australian Prime Minister, giving a speech to the American people. It’s probably one of the best speeches by an Australian p.m. right when the Japanese were smashing through across Asia. Some people would call it the “we are fighting mad” speech, but he sets up in the beginning, exactly what she says. He talks about how western world drop the ball on the rise of the Japanese., without casting a particular blame on anyone, but to highlight that “ thanks are stern things.” Today we need a leader who will step up and say exactly that, facts are stern things

  • @ukwupdates3509
    @ukwupdates3509 Před 16 dny

    Jessica needs to go into Politics if I was German I would campaign for her. 👍

  • @user-bg3jz7fu2r
    @user-bg3jz7fu2r Před 15 dny

    “ a generation of leaders who have bought into the myth of the end of history” You nailed it-thank you!

  • @AnxietyBeaver
    @AnxietyBeaver Před 15 dny +5

    Absolutely brilliant bitter pill. Loud and clear. Thank you and your guest.

  • @fgarnold
    @fgarnold Před 14 dny

    No idea why my original comment was removed, so I'll try again: Thank you. This was a fantastically insightful discussion that needs a much wider audience. Will also add, it's enormously frustrating how the vast majority of our democracies' voters can't distinguish between a politician and an actual leader.